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I am going to London for a few days and want to buy XDA II. I have spoken with a shop in London and they said that they have it in stock and start selling on 1 November. I need a piece of advice from those who live in UK. I was told that the phone will be sold with a contract only.
1. In order to buy a contracted phone, do I need only ID and credit card or I need a permanent address in the UK as well?
2. What is O2 policy on early contract termination? I could not find anything on their site.
3. If I pay cash and leave the country does it mean that I am not paying early contract termination fee since they do not have my credit card number and I am not the UK resident?
4. Any ideas how to buy XDA II in the UK at minimum price in my situation?
Many thanks.
I bought the XDA online.... (original)
When I went to register it with O2 they checked through the deal I did with the link....
If I had not confirmed the registration when I purchased the device I would have been billed the full amount after a certain time.
If you buy a phone they will run a credit check including where you worked last....
If you terminate early I know many people that have been billed the full price.
sorry but it appears you have no option here. catch 22 situation...
hope that helps.
Ian.
Sorry my English is not that good. What 22 situation means?
What if I ask a friend of mine who lives in UK to register on his name, can I pay with my own credit card or it must be his credit card? In this way I would pay the charges for early contract termination from my card. Depends how much it is à course. Anybody knows how much O2 charges for early contract termination?
catch 22 - from the film by the same name... I think
basically you do it one way... you get screwed, you do it the other... you get screwed.
If you get your friend to register it you might be able to get the registration transferred over but your friend would be putting a hell of a lot of faith in you.
The cost for early contract termination is the cost of the phone without contract plus any extra charges O2 wish to lay on you. The XDAII is what £700 without contract? (speculative price)
either way, I wouldnt like to be you or your friend when you terminate the contract early.
sorry,
Ian.
I've got an idea. I ask my friend to put XDA on his card and purchase the insurance for the phone as well, while I pay cash back to him. Then I leave the UK and he reports XDA stolen or lost and gets a brand new XDA for himself for free.
Is it very illegal in UK to do in this way?
I would prefer a more legal way to get around.
errr it would be very illegal...
like insurance fraud illegal...
if it wasn't everyone would be doing it...
please dont suggest that here again... :shock:
I had a feeling that it's illegal
But is there a legal way??? I would appreciate if somebody will give an idea how to do it legally. Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.
lol how could it not be illegal i mean they have to give him 2 phones at the price of one
if it were not who would stop people from doing the same thing with cars
and figtherplanes for that matter
Nestinar said:
Somehow a lot of phones are getting out of the coutries of origin, get unlocked and sold. So there should be a way I believe.
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Yeah thats because the supplier can source the items from other dealers (like when buying MS software)
but that usually doesnt happen until the item in question has been out for a few months... with the XDAII being so new their will likely be limited availibility... so I'd imagine getting one with a contract below the RRP O2 is selling it for will be hard enough never mind buying once cheap without a contract.
the phone when released is subsidised by the operator in the hopes they can make up development costs with the contract. They may begin to release phones to other parties after this time but they wont so close after the release date.
Ian.
P.S hence why that XDAII on ebay is so dodgy... where the hell did he get it from? (if he actually has it in the first place)
http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3270&highlight=ebay
There are phones available really soon after the initial release in the country of origin and sold usually in small shops (not chain mobile shops). That means that somehow the phones are purchased somewhere at low cost with a contract (operator's logo on the phone) and then shipped outside the country, get unlocked and sold. Which is probably not 100% legal scheme but if they can do in bulk means that there is more or less legal way to do it.
O2 are like pitbulls when the go after their money. I dont think they will allow early termination, so add up 13 months at the chosen tariff, put that in an account then each month it will be drawn at the monthly tariff by O2, when 12 months expire give 1 month notice and thats it. If it still seems cheap this way then good luck. Regarding the insurance claim, the phone companies now demand a written statement from the police and the owner, they have got very upset at all the claims and investigate each claim. I dont think a phone, no matter how desirable is worth a criminal record.
What is the situation with existing O2 customers? How much existing customers pay for a new XDA II?
Let's say my friend is an existing O2 customer and he buys XDA II. Can he sell it then to me and use the old handset instead?
I need some help
Cor I wonder about some of the Posts I read here.
Can anyone help me out with the Keys and combination for the Store room at O2 head quaters.
All plans and electrical documentation along with type of cctv and alarm systems would also be helpful..
If you work there then perhaps you could leave all of the stock on the Road outside the rear door. Please post a note here to let me know this information
I assume that it would not be so bad if I just rob them directly rather than do it behind their back.
Is that Legal.?. after all I am not making some bad insurance claim.
.... Well I am laughing....
I was going to sell a brand new Evo on eBay but would rather help the development and community first. If no one replies or contacts me I will then put it up on eBay.
*Brand new in box
*Bad ESN (Can not be used on Sprint's Network)
**Can be used with MetroPCS or for development purposes
Asking for $300 or best offer, PM me if interested.
Have a great Holidays guys and keep supporting Android and the community.
Translation: "This phone was stolen" or "I committed insurance fraud."
Fifty bucks and you would have a deal but $300 for a phone that can't be used as a phone is kind of ridiculous
Bell Canada and Virgin Mobile Canada will be releasing the Samsung Galaxy S2 4G (the 4G is Bell's naming, its still 21Mbps) July 14th. Many retailer already received the unit, but they will go on sale only on the 14.
This thread is to collect information, tips, and rooting/unlocks tips.
Similar thread over howardforum: http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...will-sell-it-unlocked?p=14466326#post14466326
Price is gonna be 599.95$ without a contract an around 150$ with a 3yr contract.
Sadly, it seem for reason I don't undersand that retailer, will not let the phone go out of the store un-activated (need a new contract or an existing customer transfering phone). The minimum "contract" seem to be a 30day 50$ plan from virgin, bell offer a similar but add initial fees, which virgin don't.
If anyone find a way around this, or store willing to sell without activating the phone, post it over here.....
So far Futureshop, Bestbuy and some the source all told me the same... But feel free to give it a try.
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x-cimo said:
Price is gonna be 599.95$ without a contract an around 150$ with a 3yr contract.
Sadly, it seem for reason I don't undersand that retailer, will not let the phone go out of the store un-activated (need a new contract or an existing customer transfering phone). The minimum "contract" seem to be a 30day 50$ plan from virgin, bell offer a similar but add initial fees, which virgin don't.
If anyone find a way around this, or store willing to sell without activating the phone, post it over here.....
So far Futureshop, Bestbuy and some the source all told me the same... But feel free to give it a try.
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From polling a few retailers (The Source, Future Shop, Bell Mobility Stores, Wireless Wave, etc.) I found it's pretty much hit and miss. Usually 1 store is willing to sell it to you off contract for every 4 asked, but, then that could change if they fly off the shelves.
Most of the store I found had either them on order (avg 6 units), or in stock (avg 3 units)... So be there early.
Was there any Bell store willing to sell off contract? (I haven't tried thoses.) Assuming they would be less flexible.
x-cimo said:
Most of the store I found had either them on order (avg 6 units), or in stock (avg 3 units)... So be there early.
Was there any Bell store willing to sell off contract? (I haven't tried thoses.) Assuming they would be less flexible.
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I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.
They can say whatever they want but any phone sold by Bell will have to be honored by their warranty program. You can talk to Bell corporate about this and they'll confirm it. They'll also tell you that if you want to buy the phone off-contract they can't refuse you. Store owners are just being dicks because they get no commission with no plan activation. Had the same sort of issues when the Nexus S was released in Canada and people wanted to buy off-contract since they were unlocked (despite Rogers/Telus/Bell claiming they were locked).
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I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.
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knowthenazz said:
I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.
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I dont think that would be legal... How would they enforce this..
Sell a 599$ phone, but say, no warranty for you.
Really, I am looking at a the source flyer, and it say 599$ with no contract. There is no place where it say you need a minimum 30 days plan required.
Other than: to get the reduce price with a X year contract you need a minimum 50$ plan.
I just don't know how to force them to sell me the phone, even if I think they are lying about the 30 day
I'm definitely going to look in to getting one off-contract, as I'm currently with Rogers...
Anyone know of any issues so far that would prevent the phone from working properly on Rogers?
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I found one Bell store willing to do it, but, there was a condition that it would be a final sale.
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I got the impression that he was referring to not being able to return the phone within the 14 day return period. I don't think he was talking about the warranty.
Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks!
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I'm definitely going to look in to getting one off-contract, as I'm currently with Rogers...
Anyone know of any issues so far that would prevent the phone from working properly on Rogers?
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+1
but I just ordered it from Handtec. It's kinda sad that Rogers has let us down yet again.
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I'm definitely going to look in to getting one off-contract, as I'm currently with Rogers...
Anyone know of any issues so far that would prevent the phone from working properly on Rogers?
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My understanding is all that you'd have to do is root and unlock the phone, and it should work fine on the Rogers network.
News that the release date could be July 21st:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/07/12/b...p+(mobilesyrup.com)&utm_content=Google+Reader
When Bell announced they’ll be one of the carriers who will release the Samsung Galaxy S II 4G they never confirmed a launch date, only that it will be available “in the coming weeks”. Carriers usually state this just in case there are shipping issues or problems meeting software tests. Rumours surfaced over the past few weeks of a July 14th release, but we are now hearing the launch date is officially set for Thursday, July 21st.
Apparently us Canadians will be getting the latest software and Bell wants to ensure that enough supply is available. The internal doc we received says that Bell is “anticipating very strong demand for the device” and waiting for “adequate supply to arrive”. Samsung recently announced that worldwide sales of this Android has already topped 3 million in just 55 days. This will be available for $599.95 on a no-contract and it’s expected the 3-year price will be $169.95.
Every store I been to told me july 14. I don`t think they will push it to 21.
My Bell rep forbade my Best Buy from selling it before the 21st and I got confirmation of this via an internal memo. We have it, but can't sell it.
BS.... We will see..
Whether we want to believe it or not, it's the truth... I'm as frustrated about it as you are, as I sold my Nexus last week to pay off my Telus cancellation fees, and now I'm going to be phone-less another week and a half...
go to wireless wave or phone booth. they let you purchase the phone out right. the warranty is void if you unlock the phone no matter where you purchase the phone.
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Yea. that was my plan, walk around im sure somebody will sell it..
Just got back from Future Shop. Their live display model is out, and I managed to play with it a bit.
They confirmed as well that July 14 is the release date.
I got a question for you guys: Why don't you just buy one from a UK site instead of waiting for Bell/Virgin's release?
Warranty will be void anyways if you buy from Bell or Virgin without contract. You have to pay $599 + activation + possible minimum plan + tax + cancellation fee(?).
If you order from Clove or Handtec, you can get a UK warranty (meaning to ship back if anything unfortunate happen to the phone...better than no warranty!). It'll only cost less than $640 including shipping.
Anyone frankly explain it to me?
Where can i buy one off contract? The tmo store will not sell it as of yet.
A few options:
- Non T-Mobile phone stores (In Houston, I tend to look for cell phone stores in Chinatown)
- Craigslist (Always ask for seller's ID due to the blocked IMEI scam on the rise)
- E-bay
- Market place on here (I think I've seen a few)
- Did you try calling T-Mobile directly? Also, just FYI, my friend bought her 16GB White T999 from a T-Mobile store here in Houston TX for full price (payment plan) about two weeks ago. So I'm not sure why (I'm assuming) you were told that T-Mobile store will not sell it yet or why the store wouldn't sell it to you.
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A few options:
- Non T-Mobile phone stores (In Houston, I tend to look for cell phone stores in Chinatown)
- Craigslist (Always ask for seller's ID due to the blocked IMEI scam on the rise)
- E-bay
- Market place on here (I think I've seen a few)
- Did you try calling T-Mobile directly? Also, just FYI, my friend bought her 16GB White T999 from a T-Mobile store here in Houston TX for full price (payment plan) about two weeks ago. So I'm not sure why (I'm assuming) you were told that T-Mobile store will not sell it yet or why the store wouldn't sell it to you.
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please elaborate on the ID, you mean ask them for the IMEI?
I want to buy it off craigslist but it's obvious people stole bulks of these phones off somewhere.
I called the TMo stores directly, not the company. They all told me they have a memo from Tmo not to sell off contract s3's until further notice.
They are available for their value plans but you will be making payments on $599 plus tax.
.. via SGH-T999 by TT2
On craigslist make sure they give you the receipt is one way to go. Or have them meet you at a T-Mobile store (preferred) when you do the exchange. Kinda like buying a used car and meeting at the dmv to change title.
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EpicSurge said:
please elaborate on the ID, you mean ask them for the IMEI?
I want to buy it off craigslist but it's obvious people stole bulks of these phones off somewhere.
I called the TMo stores directly, not the company. They all told me they have a memo from Tmo not to sell off contract s3's until further notice.
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No. Not asking for the IMEI number because the IMEI will be on the phone and on the box.
What I mean was this: A lot of people buy their phones on Craigslist and the phone will be working for a few weeks or a month before it will eventually stop working. When you call it in, you will be told that the phone was reported stolen and as such, the IMEI was blocked, rendering the phone to be useless on T-Mobile's network. What had happened was, the person selling the phone on CL would have claimed the phone to be stolen and received a replacement phone through insurance. This way, he would have your money and still own a galaxy S3.
For example of what I think is an example of such scam, click me
So, when you do a transaction on CL, take a screen shot of the CL ad, do the transaction at a T-Mobile store. Always ask for a receipt or any kind of proof of purchase, and ask for their personal ID so you can track them down in case the phone was reported stolen so you can have support for when you go to the Police (if you choose to go to the police).
belly1026 said:
No. Not asking for the IMEI number because the IMEI will be on the phone and on the box.
What I mean was this: A lot of people buy their phones on Craigslist and the phone will be working for a few weeks or a month before it will eventually stop working. When you call it in, you will be told that the phone was reported stolen and as such, the IMEI was blocked, rendering the phone to be useless on T-Mobile's network. What had happened was, the person selling the phone on CL would have claimed the phone to be stolen and received a replacement phone through insurance. This way, he would have your money and still own a galaxy S3.
For example of what I think is an example of such scam, click me
So, when you do a transaction on CL, take a screen shot of the CL ad, do the transaction at a T-Mobile store. Always ask for a receipt or any kind of proof of purchase, and ask for their personal ID so you can track them down in case the phone was reported stolen so you can have support for when you go to the Police (if you choose to go to the police).
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Thanks for the info. First time with tmo and was going to return my Costco s3 and try to get one on CL so Im not stuck on a contract. Now that I know this ill be more weary with phones off contract. Quick question. Besides getting their ID info which could be difficult to do, could you technically let T-Mobile know that you just bought it off craigslist and have the seller give his info to them which the seller would most likely do rather than give you his ID. Assuming ofcourse that he is also with using tmo service so his account can be noted.
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belly1026 said:
No. Not asking for the IMEI number because the IMEI will be on the phone and on the box.
What I mean was this: A lot of people buy their phones on Craigslist and the phone will be working for a few weeks or a month before it will eventually stop working. When you call it in, you will be told that the phone was reported stolen and as such, the IMEI was blocked, rendering the phone to be useless on T-Mobile's network. What had happened was, the person selling the phone on CL would have claimed the phone to be stolen and received a replacement phone through insurance. This way, he would have your money and still own a galaxy S3.
For example of what I think is an example of such scam, click me
So, when you do a transaction on CL, take a screen shot of the CL ad, do the transaction at a T-Mobile store. Always ask for a receipt or any kind of proof of purchase, and ask for their personal ID so you can track them down in case the phone was reported stolen so you can have support for when you go to the Police (if you choose to go to the police).
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Wow thats crazy.
Here's my short story.
The family decided to start a new 2 year contract and everyone got Galaxy S2's. This was like in April. Sold the S2 because I wanted the S3.
Started looking on Ebay, then Craigs. I checked on Craigs one day and found a pretty good deal for a sealed blue 16gb (though I had to give up the micro sim in the deal). Jumped on it that same day and met locally. I get to the spot and it turned out the seller is the older brother of this dude I knew in middle school/high school (they were both there at the spot). In my head I was like oh nice, this should be easy.
Opened it up on the spot, paid the guy, and left.
I feel pretty lucky for that to happen. I mean, of all chances I was able to meet up with someone on Craigs that I know.
But hearing these stories of people scamming people through IMEI is crazy.
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Where can i buy one off contract? The tmo store will not sell it as of yet.
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I bought mine from through mytmobile it gave me no problems buying it at full retail... I am on a grandfathered even more + plan though, not sure if that changes anything though
T-Mobile stores won't sell them off contract? I bought mine full retail at a factory T-Mobile store almost 2 weeks ago. No issues what-so-ever.
Radioshack and calling T-Mobile (You have to be a client)
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I bought mine off contract at T-Mobile store the first day it came out. I have the prepaid 30 bucks plan with the 100 min and 5 gigs of internet at 4g
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wailord said:
Newegg has the 16gb unlocked for $600 right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875176348
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That's the international version. You won't get 4g on T-Mobile with that phone
Hi, I pre ordered a note 3 from america via ebay but I changed my mind a few hours after I paid. I asked the seller for a refund and he said that there is a restocking fee of 20% so he'll only refund me $600 of $750. I found this appalling because the item has NOT been dispatched and it is a pre-order therefore it is impossible for him to charge $150 restocking fee!!!! I chatted to an ebay live agent and they agreed with me. I opened a dispute via paypal but it is saying I need to wait until 29th September to escalate to a claim. Also, it is my birthday tommorow so this has made me a bit sad
Should I just call paypal on monday and ask them to escalate it to a claim? Also, do you think I will get my money back?
Thank You.
anyone?????
A few hours ago you were looking at buying one from clove, now it seems you'd already ordered one from eBay. Stop wasting our time with your BS.
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A few hours ago you were looking at buying one from clove, now it seems you'd already ordered one from eBay. Stop wasting our time with your BS.
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One was for me and one is for my mum.
Even if you get the phone from eBay it may be a knockoff - highly probable. Fight to get all your money back and go through official channels to get the real deal dude
- R. Kruse Ludington
Current owner of: Verizon 32GB Samsung Galaxy S III (SCH-1535). Previous owner/hacker of: O2 XDA, O2 XDA II, Cingular HTC 8525, AT&T HTC Tilt, T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile HTC HD2, Verizon Motorola Droid X, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus
U want buyers remorse pity? U know what u were getting into when u buy on ebay.
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Never buy things like high end electronics on Ebay. Just things like cutting boards, etc.
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Current owner of: Verizon 32GB Samsung Galaxy S III (SCH-1535). Previous owner/hacker of: O2 XDA, O2 XDA II, Cingular HTC 8525, AT&T HTC Tilt, T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile HTC HD2, Verizon Motorola Droid X, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus
I have purchased a few PDAs (years ago) & smartphones off of eBay, try not unless it's a good deal. Whenever buying expensive toys ANYWHERE, common sense and asking questions is a must. Do ask about refunds, shipping, condition of item, refurbished or new, warranty if any, seller's reputation...then rely on common sense...if something is real cheap-dirt cheap- shipped from another country... I have only got burned once from ebay from buying over 198 items to date...then again PayPal reimbursed my loss...every penny.
Good luck.
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hayat55 said:
Hi, I pre ordered a note 3 from america via ebay but I changed my mind a few hours after I paid. I asked the seller for a refund and he said that there is a restocking fee of 20% so he'll only refund me $600 of $750. I found this appalling because the item has NOT been dispatched and it is a pre-order therefore it is impossible for him to charge $150 restocking fee!!!! I chatted to an ebay live agent and they agreed with me. I opened a dispute via paypal but it is saying I need to wait until 29th September to escalate to a claim. Also, it is my birthday tommorow so this has made me a bit sad
Should I just call paypal on monday and ask them to escalate it to a claim? Also, do you think I will get my money back?
Thank You.
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Just contact PayPal and contact your bank and stop all charges. Cancel your debit card and order a new one. Its really that simple, don't get played.
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Well, first of all, for it to be a "re-stocking fee" there has to be an actual item to RE-STOCK! Second, ebay sellers are not allowed to charge you a restocking fee, some do it, but it easy to get it back, just threaten him with a claim. A true restocking fee is, as an example, when you bring back an item bought from, lets say, best buy. You opened the box, bestbuy cannot sell the item full price and you got your money back - restocking fee to compensate for their lost money. Third, just open a paypal claim and you'll get your money back
Thanks to everyone for the help ive opened a paypal dispute but need to wait 7 days to open claim. I will call paypal tomorrow.
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Thanks to everyone for the help ive opened a paypal dispute but need to wait 7 days to open claim. I will call paypal tomorrow.
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you dont have to wait, just go in dispute details and hit "escalate to claim"
Nothing I hate worse then people buying on eBay and then don't want it.
Don't bid or buy it if you don't want it.
The seller then has to repost it and fight off the charges for everything. It's a huge pain.
did you use your credit card to pay via paypal? or debit/bank account? - if cc was used, just dispute it with credit card company, simple and effective.
you went about this all wrong.. Now you have to go through this whole process. For future reference, your order of action should have been:
1) Apologize profusely for screwing up the seller's day.
2) Ask very nicely for a refund
3) if he gives you some bull**** line like restocking fees on an item that he couldn't have possibly shipped or isn't even in his possession yet, then you should politely tell him why you shouldn't be charged. Mention that there is no restocking fee on ebay and the above stuff about how restocking fees work.
4) wait at least 24-48 hours for a response
5) 95% of the time they will then issue a complete refund. For the other 5% of the time, it is now time to escalate with paypal and ebay and call your bank and etc.
If you follow these steps you will get your money back MUCH faster. If you just go effing rambo on claims you'll be locked into dispute for a drawn out period of time and neither party is really happy in the end. Kinda a lose-lose scenario whereas by doing the above in the correct order will most of the time end up in win win situation.
If he refunds give him a stale review mentioning his shoddy business practice of charging restocking fees on prerelease goods. (reviews are everything on ebay)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! You grow some, you learn some. CHEERS!
Refund your money through paypal.