Please Help!!! Note 3 Pre order via ebay scam!!! - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I pre ordered a note 3 from america via ebay but I changed my mind a few hours after I paid. I asked the seller for a refund and he said that there is a restocking fee of 20% so he'll only refund me $600 of $750. I found this appalling because the item has NOT been dispatched and it is a pre-order therefore it is impossible for him to charge $150 restocking fee!!!! I chatted to an ebay live agent and they agreed with me. I opened a dispute via paypal but it is saying I need to wait until 29th September to escalate to a claim. Also, it is my birthday tommorow so this has made me a bit sad
Should I just call paypal on monday and ask them to escalate it to a claim? Also, do you think I will get my money back?
Thank You.

anyone?????

A few hours ago you were looking at buying one from clove, now it seems you'd already ordered one from eBay. Stop wasting our time with your BS.
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pnnorth said:
A few hours ago you were looking at buying one from clove, now it seems you'd already ordered one from eBay. Stop wasting our time with your BS.
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One was for me and one is for my mum.

Even if you get the phone from eBay it may be a knockoff - highly probable. Fight to get all your money back and go through official channels to get the real deal dude
- R. Kruse Ludington
Current owner of: Verizon 32GB Samsung Galaxy S III (SCH-1535). Previous owner/hacker of: O2 XDA, O2 XDA II, Cingular HTC 8525, AT&T HTC Tilt, T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile HTC HD2, Verizon Motorola Droid X, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus

U want buyers remorse pity? U know what u were getting into when u buy on ebay.
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Never buy things like high end electronics on Ebay. Just things like cutting boards, etc.
- R. Kruse Ludington
Current owner of: Verizon 32GB Samsung Galaxy S III (SCH-1535). Previous owner/hacker of: O2 XDA, O2 XDA II, Cingular HTC 8525, AT&T HTC Tilt, T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile HTC HD2, Verizon Motorola Droid X, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus

I have purchased a few PDAs (years ago) & smartphones off of eBay, try not unless it's a good deal. Whenever buying expensive toys ANYWHERE, common sense and asking questions is a must. Do ask about refunds, shipping, condition of item, refurbished or new, warranty if any, seller's reputation...then rely on common sense...if something is real cheap-dirt cheap- shipped from another country... I have only got burned once from ebay from buying over 198 items to date...then again PayPal reimbursed my loss...every penny.
Good luck.
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hayat55 said:
Hi, I pre ordered a note 3 from america via ebay but I changed my mind a few hours after I paid. I asked the seller for a refund and he said that there is a restocking fee of 20% so he'll only refund me $600 of $750. I found this appalling because the item has NOT been dispatched and it is a pre-order therefore it is impossible for him to charge $150 restocking fee!!!! I chatted to an ebay live agent and they agreed with me. I opened a dispute via paypal but it is saying I need to wait until 29th September to escalate to a claim. Also, it is my birthday tommorow so this has made me a bit sad
Should I just call paypal on monday and ask them to escalate it to a claim? Also, do you think I will get my money back?
Thank You.
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Just contact PayPal and contact your bank and stop all charges. Cancel your debit card and order a new one. Its really that simple, don't get played.
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Well, first of all, for it to be a "re-stocking fee" there has to be an actual item to RE-STOCK! Second, ebay sellers are not allowed to charge you a restocking fee, some do it, but it easy to get it back, just threaten him with a claim. A true restocking fee is, as an example, when you bring back an item bought from, lets say, best buy. You opened the box, bestbuy cannot sell the item full price and you got your money back - restocking fee to compensate for their lost money. Third, just open a paypal claim and you'll get your money back

Thanks to everyone for the help ive opened a paypal dispute but need to wait 7 days to open claim. I will call paypal tomorrow.

hayat55 said:
Thanks to everyone for the help ive opened a paypal dispute but need to wait 7 days to open claim. I will call paypal tomorrow.
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you dont have to wait, just go in dispute details and hit "escalate to claim"

Nothing I hate worse then people buying on eBay and then don't want it.
Don't bid or buy it if you don't want it.
The seller then has to repost it and fight off the charges for everything. It's a huge pain.

did you use your credit card to pay via paypal? or debit/bank account? - if cc was used, just dispute it with credit card company, simple and effective.

you went about this all wrong.. Now you have to go through this whole process. For future reference, your order of action should have been:
1) Apologize profusely for screwing up the seller's day.
2) Ask very nicely for a refund
3) if he gives you some bull**** line like restocking fees on an item that he couldn't have possibly shipped or isn't even in his possession yet, then you should politely tell him why you shouldn't be charged. Mention that there is no restocking fee on ebay and the above stuff about how restocking fees work.
4) wait at least 24-48 hours for a response
5) 95% of the time they will then issue a complete refund. For the other 5% of the time, it is now time to escalate with paypal and ebay and call your bank and etc.
If you follow these steps you will get your money back MUCH faster. If you just go effing rambo on claims you'll be locked into dispute for a drawn out period of time and neither party is really happy in the end. Kinda a lose-lose scenario whereas by doing the above in the correct order will most of the time end up in win win situation.
If he refunds give him a stale review mentioning his shoddy business practice of charging restocking fees on prerelease goods. (reviews are everything on ebay)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! You grow some, you learn some. CHEERS!

Refund your money through paypal.

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Anyone Returned EVO 4G to Radio Shack...

and closed the contract?
I bought EVO 4g from RS on a launch day. I have been playing with this phone/ Android for some time now.
For whatever reasons I have decided to return it.
My question is, does RS charge restocking fee? Somewhere on this forum I read that one guy paid $35 restocking fee. I thought there is absolutely no charge to try this phone on Sprint.
So, has anyone returned it to RS after purchasing it from it?
I know many ppl like their EVOs and I too think its a very good phone but just wanted to check before I go to RS today.
Nobody paid a $35 restocking fee at a Radioshack. You can return it within 30 days without a hassle.
Thanks. I definitely saw someone mentioned about $35 fee but I could not find that thread. Anyways, thanks for your reply.
All I hear are owls. {hooo hooo!}
I am in a particularly good position to answer this. i work there. yes you can.
A BUNCH OF HTC EVO ARE DYING OUT OF THE BOX IN RADIOSHACK STORES I GOT 2, ONE BRICKED AND THEY ARE TELLING ME ITS GOING TO TAKE 3 WEEKS AT LEAST TO GET A NEW ONE. THERE IS A BAD BATCH OF HTC EVO.
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I am in a particularly good position to answer this. i work there. yes you can.
A BUNCH OF HTC EVO ARE DYING OUT OF THE BOX IN RADIOSHACK STORES I GOT 2, ONE BRICKED AND THEY ARE TELLING ME ITS GOING TO TAKE 3 WEEKS AT LEAST TO GET A NEW ONE. THERE IS A BAD BATCH OF HTC EVO.
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what if i dropped it and there's a dent on the corner?
babelfish42 said:
I am in a particularly good position to answer this. i work there. yes you can.
A BUNCH OF HTC EVO ARE DYING OUT OF THE BOX IN RADIOSHACK STORES I GOT 2, ONE BRICKED AND THEY ARE TELLING ME ITS GOING TO TAKE 3 WEEKS AT LEAST TO GET A NEW ONE. THERE IS A BAD BATCH OF HTC EVO.
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Thanks for the response. I am just coming back from RS. I returned my EVO and canceled my contract with sprint.
One thing to note for anyone who bought from RS. They DO NOT refund you the gift card money. They just give you another gift card for $50. I never never shop at RS or Best Buy for that matter. I did not like this policy. Anyway it could be my mistake that I did not see that rule when I reserved EVO. Finally, I reserved iPhone 4 with that gift card. I won't waste my money on their overpriced accessories. Anyway, I am going to buy iPhone 4.
Lesson learned here. IF you really want to try out worry free any Phone from Sprint/ATT etc. DO NOT buy from these resellers. Buy directly from Sprint/ATT etc. Then you don't have to worry about these gift cards that force you to purchase something from those places (RS/BestBuy). Electronics items are cheaper online if you are not in a hurry.

Insurance for your Galaxy Tab + discount code

Im not sure about other carriers but T-Mobile or better put Asurion does not insure the Galaxy Tab. I found Square trade offers insurance.
https:// squaretrade. com/pages/
Extended warranty of 3 years plus Accidental damage is $ 150 total.
I also found a discount code "TURKEY" for a 30%. its not covered for lost or stolen but atleast damage! you have up to 90 days after purchase to place the order (dont know when the discount cod expires though).
Anyone have any experience with Square Trade?
Tmobile does have insurance for $6
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Good post!
I'd offer SquareTrade for my Galaxy Tab as well.
I'm very familiar w/ SquareTrade...
So you know the basics of the SquareTrade Care Plan, it will basically cover you up to the coverage limit listed at the time of the quote; this is usually covered up to the actual retail price of your device.
The coverage limit is the retail price which should be considered as the no-commitment price for your Galaxy Tab.
The coverage should include 3yrs w/ ADH; protects against damages in the full 3yrs, up to the coverage limit. The first year should still be covered under Samsung for regular warranty issues while year 2 and 3 will be protected by SquareTrade.
The cost to cover it may be less than the total cost to pay insurance for 2-3yrs. There are "NO" deductibles for this warranty on the Galaxy Tab so you should also consider that there will be a out of pocket expense, later, with your insurance.
Lastly, SquareTrade claims a 5 Day guarantee which means that if items that arrived for repair are not completed by 5 working days then you'll get your warranty purchase price refunded while you still keep the coverage. - Sounds good right?
For repairs or mail in items, SquareTrade also offers prepaid shipping so you do not have to pay for a label to get it there.
You have 90 days to purchase the plan and that's 90 days from the date of the purchase on your receipt. -- You can add your receipt to the online management page once you login to your account.
Hope this helps and be sure to use the coupons on eligible days since those 30% coupons don't last forever!
*I've covered my HTC EVO with the SquareTrade plan and my GF's Samsung Captivate... soon to be covered is my Galaxy Tab too!
** About experience, you should check it out on Nextag or Epinions for reviews.
SquareTrade has a majority of 4-5 star ratings by consumers.
The general rule to a easy warranty claim is the read the contract and understand that a warranty just can not cover obscene instances that are just not covered by the warranty, or issues that begin before the "advertised" term starts.
It's not common that people have a poor experience as our people on the phone's are pretty forward thinking and are friendly.
My store said no and so did customer service when I called yesterday and asked
jay_jay_n said:
Tmobile does have insurance for $6
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That's wired I called customer service before an they said I could, an when I went to the store they said I could a well I just forgot since I was in a hurry I'm gonna go back later today ill post up my results
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Please let me know. I bought two of these on contract!! One would think they would at least offer insurance for someone on contract? But they straight up told me no, and then gave me the number to Samsung to call with that question.
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That's wired I called customer service before an they said I could, an when I went to the store they said I could a well I just forgot since I was in a hurry I'm gonna go back later today ill post up my results
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I purchased mine through Best Buy and got their one year accidental damage insurance for it for $109 (it was $139 for two years, but I never have a device for that long).
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Verizon lets you put asurion insurance for $9.99 WPP or TEC for $10.99
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@shawnathan9 thanks for the input, I havent rally heard of anyone that has used SquareTrade. I will get it as soon as my Tab arrives.
btw: I work for TMO and know for a fact no insurance on Tab
I just got a quote from safeware. $45 for a year. Covers theft and accidental damage.
I just bought my tab from Tmobile and was able to have the insurance cover placed on it.
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I just bought my tab from Tmobile and was able to have the insurance cover placed on it.
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I can guarantee you that asurion will not honor that if the time comes that something happens to the tab. Call their number and confirm with them if you want, but every single internal document that I see about this says that the insurance will not work with both the tab and dell mini. Reps are either greedy with commission or too stupid and apply it anyway.
First of all: Thanks |OP| for bringing the subject.
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I just got a quote from safeware. $45 for a year. Covers theft and accidental damage.
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This made me research a bit -thanks to your post-. Got the following quotes:
Code:
Covering: Tablet
Total Coverage Amount: $600.00
Coverage Area: Domestic
Policy Term: 2 Years
Deductible: $0.00
2 Year Premium: $89.00
Policy Fees: $8.90
Total Policy Cost: $97.90
And SquareTrade's:
Code:
Item: cell phone
Coverage Limit: $600.00
2 year product Care Plan $62.00
Estimated Tax: $0.00
Total $62.00
Then I proceeded to check BBB for both (edited by me for compactness):
Safeware Insurance Agency Inc. has been a BBB Accredited business since October 1988. Based on BBB files, Safeware Insurance Agency Inc. has a BBB Rating of A+ on a scale from A+ to F.
Factors that raised this business' rating include:
Length of time business has been operating.
Complaint volume filed with BBB for business of this size.
Response to 7 complaint(s) filed against business.
Resolution of complaint(s) filed against business.
BBB has sufficient background information on this business. BBB processed a total of 7 complaints about Safeware Insurance Agency Inc. in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period.
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Square Trade, Inc. has been a BBB Accredited business since February 2007.
Based on BBB files, Square Trade, Inc. has a BBB Rating of A+ on a scale from A+ to F.
Factors that raised this business' rating include:
Length of time business has been operating.
Complaint volume filed with BBB for business of this size.
Response to 78 complaint(s) filed against business.
Resolution of complaint(s) filed against business.
BBB has sufficient background information on this business. BBB processed a total of 78 complaints about Square Trade, Inc. in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period [ed's/me note: includes Billing or Collection Issues issues...ew!].
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Based on that, I think I'll get Safeware. Non-scientific yet good for me.
Note 1: I have not heard of anyone complaining about SquareTrade, this is just the result of my research.
Note 2: I have not read either's contract terms, so I might as well be comparing pears to apples.
Note 3: This is the first time I ever actually use BBB for making purchasing decisions...
Source:
http://www.bbb.org/centralohio/business-reviews/insurance-services/safeware-insurance-agency-in-columbus-oh-8492
http://www.bbb.org/greater-san-francisco/business-reviews/extended-warranty-contract-service-companies/square-trade-in-san-francisco-ca-35878
This is not a consumer's or opinions site. I'm not looking to contradict anyone; simply thought I'd share anyway.
EDIT: Safeware's policy doesn't cover "Mysterious disappearance"...lol. Just evident -visible signs of- theft.

Hey I made a bet about possible bestbuy etf's, help me win

A friend of mine and myself got into a bit of a disagreement last night over bestbuy etfs. Long story short he got a phone from bb cancelled the service and kept the phone. Will bb come after him with a etf?
I know sprint didn't charge him a etf but will bb come after him for a etf! I made a $75 bet with him that bb would come after him with a seperate etf. But he showed me his receipt/contract paperwork and other than the info about sprint etf, there's NOTHING that states anything about bb etfs. And he paid with cash so its not like bb can just charge his credit card. I searched google and everything and really didnt find any info on this. I know companies like wirefly, letstalk etc charge their own etf if you cancel service and don't return the device. Which they even indicate when you go through their application process and is also indicated in their paperwork.
So my question is, am I out of $75? Did I just lose this bet against this fool...lol? If someone have any insight into this, it'll help me out a lot. I'd love to show him some post that bb is going to come after him. So let me know what you all think.
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plmiller0905 said:
A friend of mine and myself got into a bit of a disagreement last night over bestbuy etfs. Long story short he got a phone from bb cancelled the service and kept the phone. Will bb come after him with a etf?
I know sprint didn't charge him a etf but will bb come after him for a etf! I made a $75 bet with him that bb would come after him with a seperate etf. But he showed me his receipt/contract paperwork and other than the info about sprint etf, there's NOTHING that states anything about bb etfs. And he paid with cash so its not like bb can just charge his credit card. I searched google and everything and really didnt find any info on this. I know companies like wirefly, letstalk etc charge their own etf if you cancel service and don't return the device. Which they even indicate when you go through their application process and is also indicated in their paperwork.
So my question is, am I out of $75? Did I just lose this bet against this fool...lol? If someone have any insight into this, it'll help me out a lot. I'd love to show him some post that bb is going to come after him. So let me know what you all think.
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I believe you lost yourself 75 bucks .... as far as I can remember when you purchase an item from a store that authorized to sale the item you are only under contract with the item provider.
Bestbuy typically give you instant rebates at the register because they send their rebates directly to the manufacturers and not the provider. Hence it is no lost to them only the provider who takes the hit
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I believe you lost yourself 75 bucks .... as far as I can remember when you purchase an item from a store that authorized to sale the item you are only under contract with the item provider.
Bestbuy typically give you instant rebates at the register because they send their rebates directly to the manufacturers and not the provider. Hence it is no lost to them only the provider who takes the hit
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Wow..are you serious. I kinda thought that I may lose the bet because there was nothing mentioned in the paperwork about a bb etf and if it was I didn't find it. I thought bb was just like wirefly and letstalk.com when it comes to cancelling service. But like I said sprint cancelled the service with no questions asked. Oh well...if I lose, I'll pay up...lol.
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Wow..are you serious. I kinda thought that I may lose the bet because there was nothing mentioned in the paperwork about a bb etf and if it was I didn't find it. I thought bb was just like wirefly and letstalk.com when it comes to cancelling service. But like I said sprint cancelled the service with no questions asked. Oh well...if I lose, I'll pay up...lol.
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from my knowledge you don't sign a contract with BB, just sprint
Are you your friend's personal accountant or money manager? I mean even if he gets an ETF all he has to do is say he didn't and collect your money lol
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Are you your friend's personal accountant or money manager? I mean even if he gets an ETF all he has to do is say he didn't and collect your money lol
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No I'm not...and he better not play me like that...lol. We made bets before in the past and he paid up....
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Sorry dude but as an employee of bb mobile I can tell you that you just lost $75. An etf is strictly through the carrier. After the contract is signed we have no part in it.
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Sorry dude but as an employee of bb mobile I can tell you that you just lost $75. An etf is strictly through the carrier. After the contract is signed we have no part in it.
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Ok..then...look like I'll be paying up.
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ETF
If anything he will get a Sprint etf. It wont show up for a month or 2 as was the case when I switched From At&t. Best buy is in the cell phone business, not the carrier business which subsidizes the cost of the phone so they cannot charge an etf
Clarify the bet with him because I'm sure Sprint didn't give him a hassle about canceling but he will get a separate bill from Sprint for the remainder of his contract. Around $200 for early cancellation.
You said he paid cash. did he pay the whole amount or contract price, and did he cancel in the first 30 days? Not sure if BB does does the same but the store I got mine from told me if I canceled without returning the phone they would charge me an additional $250 for it.
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Not sure how Best Buy works, but I know that where I work, if you sign a contract and cancel, and DON'T bring the phone back to us, we charge a portion of the total cost.. I can't remember the amount, but that's how we do it..
Well what he did was call sprint and cancelled the service. Sprint didn't hassle him because he's well within his 30 days so they cancelled it with no questions asked. They said that he wouldn't be charge any SPRINT etf. However, he will have to pay for what he used prior to cancelling the service.
I am over his house watching the football game right now and had a chance to look at the paperwork again. And I just don't see anything that indicates a bb etf. Everything I see is in regards to sprint etf, that's it. I just thought that bb is like wirefly and letstalk. That is you have to return the device within a certain time frame if you cancel service or you'll be charged their etf. But I'm starting to think that's not the case.
Plus when I bought the Nexus S and tried to cancel my service with T-mobile, I tried to cancel my service like 3 days after I got the phone and I had to go to bb so that they can give tmobile some code that informs them that I returned the device. Sprint doesn't have a system like that. Which I know because I bought an Epic from Radioshack like 2 months ago and I returned it like 2 weeks later. However, before I took it back to radioshack, I called sprint to cancel the line that the Epic was on and they cancelled it with no questions asked again. Radioshack gave me my money back and I went to Sprint and bought me a brand new Evo for full price, I believe $500.
Oh well, I'll be paying $75 this Friday. thanks everyone for all your responses.
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You said he paid cash. did he pay the whole amount or contract price, and did he cancel in the first 30 days? Not sure if BB does does the same but the store I got mine from told me if I canceled without returning the phone they would charge me an additional $250 for it.
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He paid contract price. But even if they told him about a possible bb etf if he were to cancel service and not return the device, its not indicated anywhere in the paperwork. They gave him copies of everything he signed and and not one indicates a bb etf.
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This is an interesting scenario, especially if the device was paid for by cash.
Although the receipt has his sprint info, I don't think BB can go after sprint to collect anything, as they are an authorized third party seller in this case.
Now, there is this clause on the receipt under SERVICE AND SERVICE OPTIONS
....Thank you for purchasing your sprint phone and service at Best Buy. If you wish to change or cancel your Service please return with your phone to a best buy store.
As stated previously, BB is not in the carrier business, they are merely a third party reseller of sprint products. Also, nowhere on the receipt is anything else stipulated regarding cancellation of service and potential fees that may be charged [by best buy].
So, this may very well fall through the cracks.
Btw, some other resellers such as amazon and wirefly do have clauses that say if you cancel service within 180 days, you will be charged additional etf's outside of what the carrier may charge you.
ymmv.
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I believe Sprint will send a bill, and if he does not pay they will lock the ESN.
I can't speak for Best Buy since I've never worked there but I know Radioshack (and CompUSA before they went out of business) charge their own etfs if the service was cancelled within 90 days without the device being returned. At CompUSA you would get a separate paper contract about this additional etf. At Radioshack you get an electronic contract that shows up on the Verifone credit card device that requires the customer to read and sign that mentions this separate etf. I'm not sure if this is also mentioned on the receipt or not, I've never actually read it.
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This is something Sprint has recently changed. Anytime a new account (within 30 days) is going to cancelled, the phone must be returned to the original point of purchase, meaning if he purchased it at BB, Sprint will not cancel the service, Best Buy has to contact NSS and have them process the 30-day cancellation. In your particular instance, if someone at Sprint cancelled them, he got lucky. In normal instances, your friend would not be allowed to cancel over the phone, meaning if he kept the phone past 30 days he'd be under contract with Sprint and then your friend would be charged $200 ETF if he chose to cancel or keep receiving Sprint bills until his account was disconnected and sent to collections.
Your friend, was really lucky to have spoken with a new hire that mistakingly cancelled the account (or line).

[Q] Website to sell my nexus one

ive seen a website where i can sell and buy android phones from other power android users but i cant remember what the website was. im looking to sell my n1. any ideas what the website is? thank you
http://www.swappa.com
thank you so much
Yeah I get kind of a bad vibe about Swappa. It's very US-centric (which is OK I guess if you live there), and many of their phone specs are incorrect.
Swappa sucks. The target audience is not big enough and the site is not well known... for now anyways, maybe not for the next 5 years.... I listed my Desired HD for 2 weeks with no hits, even paid the extra $10 to be a "featured" listing yada yada.. after 2 weeks with no success, i listed the item on Ebay with buy it now price and was sold in less than 12 hours.
I listed my G1 for sale on swappa. It sold within a couple of days. Unfortunately the guy that bought it could not give me a confirmed mailing address. I tried for days to get him and the guy who runs swappa to understand that I would not ship to an unconfirmed address since the transaction would no longer be covered under paypal seller protection. I have been ripped off in the past where someone paid with a stolen credit card and I was dumb enough to ship to an unconfirmed address. Then the credit card company took the money back from me and I was out 700 bucks and my item. The guy gave me 3 or 4 different addresses over the course of maybe 3 days. It seemed too shady to me so I refunded his money and kept the phone.
For anyone using swappa as a means to sell their old items, beware of this practice. Only ship to an address that is confirmed THROUGH paypal. Otherwise you are running the risk of being ripped off. Both the buyer and the guy at swappa assured me this was his real address. How the website host knows this for sure was beyond me. Whatever, I'm no fool.
Ebay is a much better route for selling!
Craigslist isn't all that bad either for local sales, depending on where you live.
I agree. craigslist and ebay are better. However using swappa seemed like a better target audience to me. Basically the people there know the phone has most likely been rooted. I dunno.
I figure, if you're going to sell to a non hacker, just flash back to total stock using PASSIMG.ZIP and you're good. If your warranty has already expired, the bootloader is of no concern.
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Swappa sucks. The target audience is not big enough and the site is not well known... for now anyways, maybe not for the next 5 years.... I listed my Desired HD for 2 weeks with no hits, even paid the extra $10 to be a "featured" listing yada yada.. after 2 weeks with no success, i listed the item on Ebay with buy it now price and was sold in less than 12 hours.
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lol
I want my $10 feature listing money back from the failed suggestion.
The site said I had 76 views last time I checked, but not one bite. I guess ebay would be the best place.

Ebay scammers: watch out

It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.
Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
PayPal Credit
Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
Not covered
Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.
M9guy said:
Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
PayPal Credit
Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
Not covered
Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.
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That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:
aholeinthewor1d said:
That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:
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Many accept credit cards but I would not unless they have high positive feedback as a seller and not just positive as a buyer and I would never give them CC info over the phone or email only through secure ebay checkout. People can still file a chargeback with their credit card company but getting the money back can take months.
My thinking is many deals can be legit I know by personal experience, but yes fraudulent sellers can be weeded out if you investigate before hitting confirm bid or buy it now.
High positive fb isnt always a sure thing; this particular scam targets older acts WITH high positive fb. The thing is you have to make sure that what the seller is selling makes sense. If you see a 1oz gold bar for 300$ (going rate is about 1200) and the seller has 3600 sales @ 100% fb but all hes ever sold was buttons for 1$ run away, run away fast. And thats exactly what this slimeball does, he hacks high sales 100% fb acts and posts the pixel xl for a killer price, chesper even than the Google store.
freakboy13 said:
It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.
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I actually messaged that guy at [email protected] and agreed to a deal for two pixel xl 128gb for JUST $1200
He then proceeds in sending me an invoice which I have to pay via bank transfer. Everything looks like it's perfectly covered by Ebay and is sent by Ebay ([email protected], looks pretty fake to me, but don't know, attached a screenshot)
I then asked him why they don't accept paypal, so I'm covered.
"For the moment we can't accept payment trough PayPal. The payment must be made through Bank Transfer. eBay will be third party in this transaction and will guarantee for both of us. The money will be secured by eBay until you will receive the package. 14 days of inspection - the inspection period starts once you have the items in your hands. This means you have 14 days to decide whether I get the money or not. In case the items are not as I described them, the transaction is canceled and eBay will refund full amount. If the items are as described, the transaction is completed and I will receive the money from eBay. Let me know if I should keep this items reserved for you."
I really don't know if all lies or not, but I obviously canceled the deal.
Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.
Mike02z said:
Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.
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Yep. It looks pretty legit, though, if you don't have much experience and are hyped for the device. So I believe they really do have success sometimes.
Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.
jjayzx said:
Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.
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Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.
Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.
Mike02z said:
Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.
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They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
chazall1 said:
Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.
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But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..
D4rkSoRRoW said:
They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..
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And neither does eBay it appears.
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As long as you always pay with Paypal on ebay you will alway get your money back as with paypal new sellers will get their money held by paypal until the buyer leaves positive feedback or confirms to paypal that they received the item and its as described but you still have a 30 day money back guarantee with ebay.
daryllh said:
And neither does eBay it appears.
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Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there
D4rkSoRRoW said:
Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there
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Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.
M9guy said:
Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.
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Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new
D4rkSoRRoW said:
Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new
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Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.
M9guy said:
Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.
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Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.
D4rkSoRRoW said:
Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.
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Yes but they have been on back order keeping prices very high. The black 128gb pixel xl's were selling on ebay for over $1000.00

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