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[Q] SetCPU for MT4G?

Is it safe to install SetCPU on the MyTouch4G now that we have permaroot? If so, what are the settings we should use with it? Just not sure if the current kernel has been tested with SetCPU or not, and if it works what version of SetCPU... 2.0.3 or 2.0.4?
Thanks.

I am running 2.0 4 with autodetect. Set at 1024mhz performance. No issues and been running 3 days now.
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Mr Bill Florida said:
I am running 2.0 4 with autodetect. Set at 1024mhz performance. No issues and been running 3 days now.
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So you're not overclocking it then, correct? What is your setting for the minimum frequency?

I have it at 245mhz.
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set up a profile under screen off and set max down to 3000 and minimum at 2000...saves me ton of battery power now
also download auto killer memory in market and set to optimum for even better battery life

I thought that over clocking required a custom kernel?
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thelamacmdr said:
I thought that over clocking required a custom kernel?
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You do.
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Were not overclocking... simply managing the CPU more efficiently at its existing speed set
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awdlexusis said:
set up a profile under screen off and set max down to 3000 and minimum at 2000...saves me ton of battery power now
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The closest options for this are the following:
368640 max
245760 min
What did you use for the scaling and priority settings?
EDIT - Added a screenshot to this post. I've tried both 2.0.3 and 2.0.4, and no matter what I set for the minimum setting it stays at 245 (not what I defined). Does it not work then on this stock kernel?

I was going to say the same thing, from what I have seen on my phone setcpu is not doing anything. It won't change any of the clock speeds whether boosting the low end or limiting the high end.
I have tried a few things like setting profiles for less than 75% battery to lower the max clock speed and that doesn't work either. Am I crazy or are others experiencing a placebo effect on profiles lowering clock speed when screen is off?
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slowestcivic said:
I was going to say the same thing, from what I have seen on my phone setcpu is not doing anything. It won't change any of the clock speeds whether boosting the low end or limiting the high end.
I have tried a few things like setting profiles for less than 75% battery to lower the max clock speed and that doesn't work either. Am I crazy or are others experiencing a placebo effect on profiles lowering clock speed when screen is off?
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For HTC phones need to be rooted and also disable perflock. In setcpu: menu->perflock disabler. I set my perflock to disable on boot.

vels13 said:
For HTC phones need to be rooted and also disable perflock. In setcpu: menu->perflock disabler. I set my perflock to disable on boot.
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Hot damn, that fixed it! Now to test it out further to see how well it works here. I'm not looking to overclock, just underclock when I'm not using the phone. Thanks for the tip!

dustrho said:
The closest options for this are the following:
368640 max
245760 min
What did you use for the scaling and priority settings?
EDIT - Added a screenshot to this post. I've tried both 2.0.3 and 2.0.4, and no matter what I set for the minimum setting it stays at 245 (not what I defined). Does it not work then on this stock kernel?
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yes thats the correct setting i didnt know off hand the exact.will stay at minimum untill needed,im on on demand

Best settings for battery life?

Here are my settings and have worked very well. Almost adding 24 hours of battery life.

CBConsultation said:
Here are my settings and have worked very well. Almost adding 24 hours of battery life.
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wow... what kind of use are you putting on it? Also are you having any issues with lag or slow response?

Daguse said:
wow... what kind of use are you putting on it? Also are you having any issues with lag or slow response?
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Just an average power-user. I email and text a lot as I own a consulting business. I am constantly on the go and need my battery to stretch as long as possible.
That is why I kept the stock kernel and didn't over-clock. I simply removed all the bloatware and non-essential apk's that I didn't need and set up a few profiles in SetCPU and now I can get an easy 2 days of power use out of it.
As I still employ the stock kernel and stock ROM I have no lag what-so-ever. Response is perfect IMHO.

CBConsultation said:
Just an average power-user. I email and text a lot as I own a consulting business. I am constantly on the go and need my battery to stretch as long as possible.
That is why I kept the stock kernel and didn't over-clock. I simply removed all the bloatware and non-essential apk's that I didn't need and set up a few profiles in SetCPU and now I can get an easy 2 days of power use out of it.
As I still employ the stock kernel and stock ROM I have no lag what-so-ever. Response is perfect IMHO.
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SO I am new to this... I used your same settings and my bat shows 56%. On the my screen it still shows that its jumping from 1024-245. Am I missing something?
EDIT: N/M I am just dumb and forgot to preflock!
So I set my profile to have
Screen Off Pri 75 Max 3K Min 2K
Bat 75% Pri 50 Max 7K Min 2K
Bat 50% Pri 50 Max 3K Mn 2K
I will let you know how it goes but I am hoping for some good bust in bat life.
Had some issues when waking the phone, so I changed the settings on the screen off to Max 768. Going to test.
I also moved the 50 Bat to 30 and still getting good life out of it.

Well I have been experimenting with some profiles in setcpu and I have noticed a great increase in battery life especially when in standby a lot.

So i have done this according to what works for everyone else. But... my battery still drops from 100 down to 40 in about 5hours and it has been this way since the 2.2.1 smh. I dont kno what to do. I do text alot and get on facebook mobile semi frequently but mainly text and omg the phone gets up to 104 degreez wen using or charging. Any suggestions ? Or anythjng i may be doing wrong
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SetCPU configuration

Hello,
I just installed SetCPU and configured some profiles. I'd like to hear comments about them:
Screen Off 83/83
Charging 667/83
Battery < 15% 83/83
Battery < 30% 222/83
What do you think of setting 83/83? Too low?
How can I overclock?
I'd like to set a profile for temperature controlling, what is considered a high temp?
Thanks!

I would like to know about this as well. How has those settings worked out for you so far?

Using 83/83 was way too slow. When I had screen off and wanted to turn it back on, it would take too long.
I'm currently using these profiles (in order off priority):
Charging 667/83 (ondemand)
Screen off 222/83 (conservative)
Battery <30% 222/83 (conservative)
I haven't figured out how to overclock yet.
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For overclocking we would nees a custom kernel that supports overclocking.
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s3th.g3ck9 said:
For overclocking we would nees a custom kernel that supports overclocking.
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Which I assume we don't?

Not yet. But now that the first view custom roms came up i believe we will find one coder that's building a custom kernel.
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s3th.g3ck9 said:
Not yet. But now that the first view custom roms came up i believe we will find one coder that's building a custom kernel.
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That's exciting! Are the custom roms you refer to the ones from samfirmware?

Nope... I refer to the real custom roms. Aosp, jpb light, jpa hybrid... And currently there seems to be an eclair rom with ext4 fs is in work... Have Look in the development section.
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I also hope to get on whit overclocking. This phone just needs a little more juice.
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iomartin said:
Using 83/83 was way too slow. When I had screen off and wanted to turn it back on, it would take too long.
I'm currently using these profiles (in order off priority):
Charging 667/83 (ondemand)
Screen off 222/83 (conservative)
Battery <30% 222/83 (conservative)
I haven't figured out how to overclock yet.
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Thanks for the info. I'll give this a try.

Charging 667/667 (performance)
Screen off 166/83 (performance)
Temp >37C 166/83 (conservative)
rest of the time i have under-clocked it to 333/166 (conservative)
ondemand scaling is a bit laggy when switch speeds...
current setup gives me bout 45-52 hours of usage time.
this includes around 200 msgs a day(outgoing), a total of about 1 hour wifi on time...and around 30 mins bluetooth on.plus an "always screen on " option while texting...
apps/widgets running
$brightness is minimum....always.can increase using widgets when u wanna read or check sumthin out, then revert back to min.
#battery indicator pro
#sceen filter(to reduce brightness below android's set level, good at nite)
#chompsms
#ultra keyboard
#task killer
#extended control widgets
running all the time...

s3th.g3ck9 said:
Not yet. But now that the first view custom roms came up i believe we will find one coder that's building a custom kernel.
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Yeah, but we need someone who's crazy enough to try to overclock his i5800 without any information on the CPU X)

SetCPU lagged my phone like crazy all the time it was on.
Launcher pro+SetCPU was a damn nightmare, apps took close to 9 secs to load.

zeyk said:
Charging 667/667 (performance)
Screen off 166/83 (performance)
Temp >37C 166/83 (conservative)
rest of the time i have under-clocked it to 333/166 (conservative)
ondemand scaling is a bit laggy when switch speeds...
current setup gives me bout 45-52 hours of usage time.
this includes around 200 msgs a day(outgoing), a total of about 1 hour wifi on time...and around 30 mins bluetooth on.plus an "always screen on " option while texting...
apps/widgets running
$brightness is minimum....always.can increase using widgets when u wanna read or check sumthin out, then revert back to min.
#battery indicator pro
#sceen filter(to reduce brightness below android's set level, good at nite)
#chompsms
#ultra keyboard
#task killer
#extended control widgets
running all the time...
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Do you get lag after turning the screen on?
I used to have anipet Aquarium Live Wallpaper + ADW Launcher EX, and had huge lag when turning the screen on - with 222/83. I stopped using the Live Wallpaper, and it got better, but there's still lag sometimes. I don't know how heavy ADW Launcher EX is, if it is it's fault or not.
Using performance scaling, if I'm not mistaken (the documentation page of setcpu is down) forces the cpu to always run at the max frequency, so it'd be the same as setting the max and min frequency as the same value, right?
I'll give a try at using conservative instead of ondemand and see if I get less lag, though I'd expect exactly the opposite!

What's the point on downclocking the CPU while using the phone ? I mean, 333mhz makes me think i bought a chinese phone (And not a cool one like the ZTE Blade).

Gsam101 said:
What's the point on downclocking the CPU while using the phone ? I mean, 333mhz makes me think i bought a chinese phone (And not a cool one like the ZTE Blade).
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i totally agree, i would love to able to overclock it, not underclock it

i have undeclocked it coz i want a longer "ON" time...i am texting and callin ppl most of the time so battery lasts jus for a day.i don't wanna charge it everyday.plus using at 333 isnt so bad..i don't play games(much)...and even when i do(angry birds,paper toss) it works fine...u will get used to it....and whats the point in overclocking this phone? with a crappy resolution no HD game will run on it.
the only thing that sucks at low speeds is the gallery.however this can be "solved" by using the Quickpic app.it's better organized and hella fast.but it lacks the fancy looks...
@iomartin..there is no delay or lag and i have disabled the lock screen also.i use go launcher btw.

zeyk said:
i have undeclocked it coz i want a longer "ON" time...i am texting and callin ppl most of the time so battery lasts jus for a day.i don't wanna charge it everyday.plus using at 333 isnt so bad..i don't play games(much)...and even when i do(angry birds,paper toss) it works fine...u will get used to it....and whats the point in overclocking this phone? with a crappy resolution no HD game will run on it.
the only thing that sucks at low speeds is the gallery.however this can be "solved" by using the Quickpic app.it's better organized and hella fast.but it lacks the fancy looks...
@iomartin..there is no delay or lag and i have disabled the lock screen also.i use go launcher btw.
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i dont have to use it for anything specific, i just want to OC it

stubborn_d0nkey said:
i totally agree, i would love to able to overclock it, not underclock it
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A bit useless.. But there is a way to clock it at 523mhz if we read the CPU's specifications... That could be cool..

zeyk said:
Charging 667/667 (performance)
Screen off 166/83 (performance)
Temp >37C 166/83 (conservative)
rest of the time i have under-clocked it to 333/166 (conservative)
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Wow thanks for this. I used these settings except for the last one (underclocking when the cellphone is being used)
Last time I recharged was 63 hours ago, and battery indicator still shows 50% left! I have:
- Watched an episode of Kenny vs Spenny (640x480)
- Played ~1h of games
- Surfing + downloading ~30min on Wi-Fi
- Installed ~ 10 apps
- Texted about 50 messages
- Made about a total of 10 minutes of calls
- Sent songs through bluetooth for.. ~10 minutes
- Listened to music for about ~30 mins
Still 50% left? Amazing. Of course this can (or is) a problem with the crappy indicator and it can quickly decrease to ~15 in a heartbeat, but it still is pretty amazing.
Phone says it has been on for 73 hours, I wonder if that's the actual time I recharged it for the last time, or if It's the last time it was charged?
Once again thanks for those profiles. First time I used the app I reckon setting the same but I used OnDemand scaling (What's the difference between these btw?) and It lagged like hell when I turned the screen on again. None of that happens now, the phone works the same way as if it had normal clock speeds.
Oh and I don't use 3G and I've got APNDroid blocking all internet connections. I wonder if that does anything to the battery life?
EDIT: Now I used some bluetooth for 15 mins and made few calls and it got bumped down to 15% and told me to recharge. Guess It'd still work for about 6 hours on stand-by but still the battery life for me was ~67hrs, whilst being ~48 before.

[Q] Battery

So I have my phone running Ice Glacier 1.1.6 everything is fine but like I see a significant drop in battery from not much use. and it says display is taking most of the battery power. I have auto brightness on and not many widgets.. Any ideas ??

Do as I did change your blacklight settings and don't use auto bright. Then disable some service using 3rd party apps and trust me there is alot of them that you will never use or need so get rid of them from even starting and if it even restarts have it shutdown. I am also using IGv1.1.6 as I flashed it last night and normally comparing it with IGv1.1.5 its better. Also scale your mCPU with SetCPU and when idle underclock it normally its 800mhz on avg load. Don't waste your battery trying to OC it lol just so you can brag about benchmark. Do this 3 you will see improvement, most folks always talk about uptime but we talk about awake time as thats what really matters.

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Do as I did change your blacklight settings and don't use auto bright. Then disable some service using 3rd party apps and trust me there is alot of them that you will never use or need so get rid of them from even starting and if it even restarts have it shutdown. I am also using IGv1.1.6 as I flashed it last night and normally comparing it with IGv1.1.5 its better. Also scale your mCPU with SetCPU and when idle underclock it normally its 800mhz on avg load. Don't waste your battery trying to OC it lol just so you can brag about benchmark. Do this 3 you will see improvement, most folks always talk about uptime but we talk about awake time as thats what really matters.
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i dont understand the SetCPU stuff =/

^^^^BUMPP^^^^^

Set cpu is a program you can download that allows you to change the speed your cpu runs at. U can even make profiles so say when ur battery reaches a certain level it will under clock the cpu to run at a lower level to increase your battery life. It also allows you to overclock your phone to run faster but at a significant loss to your battery life.
Hope that helps.
Oh set cpu isn't free now but there are others on the market that do the same thing that are.
Kevin
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I have set CPU but I don't understand how to operate it

What most ppl do is set a profile to run at the minimum speed when the phone is turned off to increase batt life..also, use a reasonable on demand setting for all other usage..no need to do crazy overclocking if you dont need the power
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Overclocking

Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..

SAPPH1RE said:
Excessive overclocking really did damage your hardware, depends on the quality.. Overclocking from 1.0ghz to 1.5ghz really give a performance boost, in benchmarking.. In real life, only noticeable in process hungry apps, such as 3d games.. Gimmick? Well, if its a gimmick, it won't give any sudden resets or lock ups.. The processor have a safety switch if the temperature increase because of oc'ing.. If it's to hardcore, for example, 1.0Ghz to 1.8Ghz or even 2.0Ghz, for sure you processor will overheat and lock ups.
Well, mine running at 1.5Ghz, no lock ups or whatever..
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My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.

ttav said:
My phone is running quite happily on 1.84Ghz.No lock ups or overheating.
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Good for you though.. Mine can only be stable at 1.7Ghz.. At 1.8Ghz, only about couple of mins gaming, and then hang till forever..

niks_5in said:
Can over clocking the phone can burn or cause damage to the hardware except excess battery usage and does overclock an 1ghz processor to 1.5 will really give a boost or its just a gimmick
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You will barely notice the difference in most circumstances. Even if your phone runs fine at 1.5 or 1.8 ghz it will probably reduce the life of the chip over a prolonged period.
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I think it will give minor boost at the cost of burning your hardware
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it will help in cpu intensive tasks, that which require lots of calculations, math stuff, 3d drawing done via cpu, faster cpu, better...
in other tasks, don't even bother, there are lots of other things far slower then cpu.
downside, heating, battery drain, increased rate of damage..!

Im using SetCPU for saving battery life. Set the cpu for 384 while screen is off. Noticed quite a difference.

OP, your asking if a overclocked cpu will give a better performance or if it's a gimmick? Really??
Of course it will give you better performance, that goes without saying but the question is, are you willing to sacrifice battery life? The chip will most probably last for years and years if overclocked but 1 thing that kills chips is heat and volts.
I only overclock when I need to and when I'm done I go back to how it was, usually.

My phone is fast enough at 1GHz, dont need overclocking, all games and apps goes fine fine

Most OC kernals are also undervolted anyway so I wouldn't worry about it

to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...

thiagodark said:
to be honest, i use mine with "underclocked" at 800mhz, trying to get at least a half-hour of battery life... i don't see the point in overclock a 1ghz processor, imo, even with a speed gain, the bad side effects easily override the good ones...
i truly believe that overclock my old milestone was the main cause of the problem that happens after...
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I'd look at other reasons for your battery life, if it's really that bad.
I'm running at just a touch above 1GHz with no side affects what so ever and get 24+hrs with heavy use, 30+hrs with moderate use and 40+hrs with light use, and that's never turning wifi / 3G off unless I'm in bed when I switch to 2G.
At 1GHz the OCUV kernal I have installed uses less voltage than stock kernal at stock speeds so in theory it's actually safer.

It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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thiagodark said:
It's not that bad, but it's not so great as yours too. I got about 16hrs with 'hard' use, what is enought most time, but sometimes i get in home with the blinking orange led. Quite annoying...
I try my best to improve the battery life, but i was becoming a battery freak, or something like that, always checking currentwidget...
I get 3 or 4ma at stand by, what is considered normal, i guess... and always use full brightness, hate to use anything bellow...
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Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.

going up to 1.8GHz still running stable, thats crazy man!

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Full brightness is your problem. I bet it uses like 70% of the current while you use your phone.
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Yep, you are correct, it's using about 75% of the battery...
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Any performance boost on 1.8 ghz
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Annoying issue with core scaling...

I know many will probably just ignore this bug, but I can't because just knowing it's there is pestering. Anyway the GPU is not functioning properly ever since 4.2.2 . Its frequency isn't dynamic.
I would like if some volunteers with faux clock or another GPU reading app could confirm if they have the same issue on 4.2.2 .
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Default governor for GPU is ondemand, it's behaving properly.

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Default governor for GPU is ondemand, it's behaving properly.
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On demand doesn't entail a static frequency. Previously it would drop to 128 or 200 but now it sticks to 400... That is definitely not normal behavior for this governor. I only had faux clock open and I doubt that app would be GPU intensive.
And this is a problem for me because the the back is noticeably warmer than before despite me having a max of 1ghz and eco mode.
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Ah ok sorry, thought you meant it wasn't scaling through the frequencies on light loads.
Dunno may be it's using some kind of low power state instead, I'm using faux stock enhanced kernel and mine is cool at the back with just normal use, also getting great battery life.
Mine only gets hot with heavy gaming or by just browsing with 3g on.

meangreenie said:
Ah ok sorry, thought you meant it wasn't scaling through the frequencies on light loads.
Dunno may be it's using some kind of low power state instead, I'm using faux stock enhanced kernel and mine is cool at the back with just normal use, also getting great battery life.
Mine only gets hot with heavy gaming or by just browsing with 3g on.
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My issue is that it sticks to 400 which is high state. The only time it changes is when I set it to 487, it'll switch between 487-->400 constantly. Something is triggering a load but these tests are on fresh installs. It's generating heat which isn't good for batteries, especially non removable.
All these issues with my nexus are seriously making me reconsider my purchase -_-
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