Does anyone know how to turn off the 3G radio without turning off the GPS?
I know the airplane mode trick will turn off 3G but that also turns off GPS, which some Google apps need.
I hope Google gives us dedicated radio toggles in 3.1.
Try unchecking 'Data enabled' in mobile network settings
sangreal06 said:
Try unchecking 'Data enabled' in mobile network settings
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is the correct way to do it.
Airplane mode really should be used when you want ALL of the wireless turned off, including wifi. It's strange that it lets you turn it back on while in airplane mode. I guess it makes sense for those planes that now have wifi.
Bauxite said:
Airplane mode really should be used when you want ALL of the wireless turned off, including wifi. It's strange that it lets you turn it back on while in airplane mode. I guess it makes sense for those planes that now have wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also how i use my phone overseas without having to worry about a big ass bill.
Are you sure GPS is off in Airplane Mode? I run in A-M too when I'm on WiFi, and I've definately seen the "GPS on" indicator come up when doing something that needs my location.
But to be sure, I downloaded "GPS Test" from the market, turned on Airplane Mode after getting it, and GPS test was able to see some 6 satellites (inside- we have some really nice hardware!).
I don't think GPS is off when in A-M.
Bauxite said:
Airplane mode really should be used when you want ALL of the wireless turned off, including wifi. It's strange that it lets you turn it back on while in airplane mode. I guess it makes sense for those planes that now have wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, it actually does kill-switch everything when enabled- which is what it's supposed to do, but it's a good thing that it allows selective re-enabling of BT and WiFi.
Besides, GPS is a reciever (unlike BT/WiFi which also Xmit), but while I'm aware of the heterodyne issue, that leakage is FAR smaller, and the only way to fix that is to turn off the device altogether.
Related
On my old HTC dash I was able to turn off all services independently in a way that i could insure that my phone was off yet I could still use my WiFi. This worked well for vacations so that i did not receive any roaming charges for people who may call my phone while gone. The only thing I think that may work is an app called apndroid? Any other suggestions?
Force EVDO?
dbldown768 said:
On my old HTC dash I was able to turn off all services independently in a way that i could insure that my phone was off yet I could still use my WiFi. This worked well for vacations so that i did not receive any roaming charges for people who may call my phone while gone. The only thing I think that may work is an app called apndroid? Any other suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can have wifi on in airplane mode...in sense there is also a setting to disable the mobile network. it even has a convenient little widget. or in mobile network setting u can set it to home only. out of home network evdo wont work with that. u can also change it to only sync data and background services with wifi. if that helps at all
dbldown768 said:
On my old HTC dash I was able to turn off all services independently in a way that i could insure that my phone was off yet I could still use my WiFi. This worked well for vacations so that i did not receive any roaming charges for people who may call my phone while gone. The only thing I think that may work is an app called apndroid? Any other suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you on Sprint? As I understand it, most of the unlimited data plans have no roaming these days...
When you go to wireless and networks and enable airplane mode, you are still able to turn your wifi on..
Nothing should have to be changed to allow this...
When I turn off Mobile Network, I am still able to place calls... I just lose EvDO.
Because after you turn off mobile network, when you press call, it automatically turns it on for the duration of the call.
Turn airplane mode on, and see if you can hit wifi...
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Because after you turn off mobile network, when you press call, it automatically turns it on for the duration of the call.
Turn airplane mode on, and see if you can hit wifi...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mobile Network != phone radio.
If you turn off Mobile Network, it's turning off data only. The only way to turn off the phone radio without turning on Airplane Mode is to go into *#*#4636#*#* turn it off in Phone Info.
However, wireless should work just fine in Airplane Mode. Just use the Wi-Fi on/off widget from HTC or the Power Control android widget.
While i have an unlimited plan I will be outside the US where there may or may not be sprint coverage. I have turned on airplane mode from both holding down the power as well as from the settings menu. Both options do not allow you to turn on wifi after airplane mode is on. I am still running stock 1.5 sense android. Not sure what others are running.
I recently upgraded to an Epic 4G but I'd still like to use my Hero as a GPS and Wifi capable unit for geocaching and tracking my mountain bike rides. I figure if the cell radio is turned off, then that would just save that much more battery and processing. So how do I turn that off? I just want to be able to use GPS and Wifi only.
by using airplane mode you can turn of radio n data
but not sure whether it will turn off gps so in that case you wont be able to use as a gps device
try and see
agarp said:
by using airplane mode you can turn of radio n data
but not sure whether it will turn off gps so in that case you wont be able to use as a gps device
try and see
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've used that before when I was riding, and still using my tracks, so I know airplane mode will leave GPS on, wasn't sure about wifi though.
If I haven't activated 3G, does that mean the radio is disabled, or could it be still using battery power?
Put it in airplane mode then enable WiFi, then the only radio that's on is your WiFi radio. That's what I do on my deactivated Droid, otherwise its looking for 3g...
Elysian893 said:
Put it in airplane mode then enable WiFi, then the only radio that's on is your WiFi radio. That's what I do on my deactivated Droid, otherwise its looking for 3g...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I forgot all about doing that on my Xoom. I did that just now, since my 3g has not been activated.
Awesome! Thanks for reminding me about that.
Yeah, originally I didn't do anything about it....but then I was thinking that maybe it was using some battery so I enabled airplane mode. Battery has been much better. Hopefully there will be a ROM or some other way to disable it in the code, so that I don't have to leave airplane on.
You can also disable mobile service in the settings. It's preferable since doesn't airplane mode also disable gps?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
If you go into Settings in Wireless and Networks, if Airplane mode is turned off you can choose Mobile Networks and turn off data selected.
That should stop the antenna from activating without using Airplane mode.
Bielinsk said:
If you go into Settings in Wihttp://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=11998019reless and Networks, if Airplane mode is turned off you can choose Mobile Networks and turn off data selected.
That should stop the antenna from activating without using Airplane mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried that originally and the battery monitor still showed the 3G radio being on. Also even doing that it still prompts on every reboot to be activated while in airplane mode it doesn't
Bielinsk said:
If you go into Settings in Wireless and Networks, if Airplane mode is turned off you can choose Mobile Networks and turn off data selected.
That should stop the antenna from activating without using Airplane mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My understanding though is that this will ONLY disable data. It won't disable the physical radio that connects to the cell network. And as long as that radio is enabled (even if data is disabled) it will contribute to the draining of your battery. By putting the device in airplane mode, it will actually disable the RADIO, not just the data coming in through the radio.
I just switched to Airplane mode. Let's see if this will help battery life (not that I had to complain anyway)
funnycreature said:
I just switched to Airplane mode. Let's see if this will help battery life (not that I had to complain anyway)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Originally after about 30 hours I would have around 20% battery left. After enabling airplane mode I have 86% battery left after 1 day and 7 hours. I think it makes a big difference.
So is this right? The only way to disable the radio is to actually enable airplane mode and then turn wifi back on? Will the GPS still work?
I found with mine just on standby I used 17% battery in Cell Standby. I went into Mobile network settings and unchecked Data Enabled and it dropped considerably, down to about 3% (still while I hadn't been using the Xoom).
I'm going to try airplane mode tonight.
Is there any hope to activate 3G? I am living in europe (Denmark) and here is no verzion.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA Premium App
Just got the new nexus 4 and I'm trying to set it up like my galaxy nexus. I have tmobile's $30 / month plan and use sipdroid at home to make wifi calls so as not to go into my 100 minutes.
It seems like auto AP does not work on the nexus 4. In addition, when I manually toggle airplane mode it turns off all radios and I cannt reactivate wifi (even manually in settings). Any fix for this?
abugarcias said:
Just got the new nexus 4 and I'm trying to set it up like my galaxy nexus. I have tmobile's $30 / month plan and use sipdroid at home to make wifi calls so as not to go into my 100 minutes.
It seems like auto AP does not work on the nexus 4. In addition, when I manually toggle airplane mode it turns off all radios and I cannt reactivate wifi (even manually in settings). Any fix for this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do know the point of airplane mode, right? It disables EVERYTHING.
If you want ONLY wifi, disable data in your phone settings. In 2.3.6 (N4 today!) it's wireless and network settings, mobile networks, uncheck "data enabled"
You could also get a toggle app like widgetsoid and disable background data sync, or settings, accounts and sync settings, uncheck background data and auto-sync.
ace7196 said:
You do know the point of airplane mode, right? It disables EVERYTHING.
If you want ONLY wifi, disable data in your phone settings. In 2.3.6 (N4 today!) it's wireless and network settings, mobile networks, uncheck "data enabled"
You could also get a toggle app like widgetsoid and disable background data sync, or settings, accounts and sync settings, uncheck background data and auto-sync.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right but on my galaxy nexus I could enable airplane mode turning off everything, then turn on wifi. All I'm looking to do is disable the cell connection whenever I'm connected to wifi.
This happens on my Nexus 4 as well. I had my Nexus S setup this way as well. I use CSipSimple + PBX account, etc. Anyways, Airplane mode constantly disables WiFi, no matter what. And yes the app AutoAP doesn't work either.
I have found this app, Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool, funny that it was made for Android versions prior to 2.0.
The actual app doesn't seem to work (to enable/disable airplane mode and WiFi), but within the app lies a nifty feature in the Preferences menu under Extras:
Keep Wi-fi On
Wi-fi on Airplane Mode
Check both of those and you should be able to turn Airplane mode on and then keep WiFi on.
Cheers.
I wrote this a while back: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29219003
You can try to see if those apps work.
AutoAir for automatically toggling airplane mode when connected to wifi (doesn't check if there's an actual connection to the Internet though. don't know if your app does)
Plane Mode Tweaker for allowing wifi and bt to be usable in airplane mode. It can also make it so wifi/bt don't get disabled upon entering airplane mode if they were enabled previously.
Y5 for automatically toggling wifi on when in range and off when away. Since it determines location by logging the cell towers you're connected to, the phone should not be in airplane mode initially. Walk around the house and anywhere you have wifi since you may be in range of multiple cell towers. It's best to leave the radio on for a few days so it can learn all the towers. After that, it works very well.
With that battery of apps, everything becomes pretty seamless. I have it set to always use Google Voice. This way, I don't have any additional prompts when using the native dialer, and the other party sees my GV#. When I go home, Y5 turns wifi on, AutoAir sees wifi and enables airplane mode, and Plane Mode Tweaker prevents wifi from being taken down again. The native dialer will automatically trigger Sipdroid, and again the recipient sees my GV#. Leave home and lose wifi and airplane mode is disabled, then wifi gets disabled. Seamless. Only problem is calls won't handoff between sipdroid and cell obviously.
I'm kind of assuming the apps may be calling the same functions/methods/whathaveyou and it may not work either.
Does anyone know the specifics as to how "Smart mode" for Wi-Fi works? by default it's turned on and I remember when I first got my device that Wi-Fi would turn on on its own when I was home. It would also turn on at work and despite turning Wi-Fi off at work it would turn itself on again. Does "Smart mode" require GPS and/or Location reporting to function properly? Are there any alternatives?
from my understanding (which maybe off) the smart mode will remember and recognize any previous wifi's that you have on your list and then when in range it will attempt to turn on wifi and connect to them.. what this leads me to believe is that it will be scanning ALL THE TIME for them in an attempt to turn on and connect, (because I had my location off so I don't think it uses GPS).
I had that "problem" where it would keep turning itself on and I didn't want that or want it killing my battery for a weak wifi connection, so I just turned off the smart mode to "fix" it.
ekz13 said:
from my understanding (which maybe off) the smart mode will remember and recognize any previous wifi's that you have on your list and then when in range it will attempt to turn on wifi and connect to them.. what this leads me to believe is that it will be scanning ALL THE TIME for them in an attempt to turn on and connect, (because I had my location off so I don't think it uses GPS).
I had that "problem" where it would keep turning itself on and I didn't want that or want it killing my battery for a weak wifi connection, so I just turned off the smart mode to "fix" it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so in other words Location reporting is necessary for thisbto work? while I have Smart mode on, I do have Location reporting off and for the most part it hasn't been turning on wi-fi scans anymore. wondering if turning Location reporting off when the screen is off makes Smart mode less effective...
sorry for the delay..
i'm not sure its needed.. I don't have mine turned on, I just had the smart mode on and it would turn the wifi on as I came into range. Which leads me to believe its constantly scanning. I could be wrong but that's the only conclusion I can draw unless I'm missing something.
are you saying that your wifi will not turn on if your location is off?
ekz13 said:
sorry for the delay..
i'm not sure its needed.. I don't have mine turned on, I just had the smart mode on and it would turn the wifi on as I came into range. Which leads me to believe its constantly scanning. I could be wrong but that's the only conclusion I can draw unless I'm missing something.
are you saying that your wifi will not turn on if your location is off?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For the most part I've always had Smart mode on since it was on by default, however it's only recently that I've used Tasker to disable the Location Reporting when the screen is off... it's been a while since my wi-fi has turned on by itself and for the most part it's the only thing I can think of that I changed in relation to locations and wi-fi. I know there was an app on the BlackBerry that would turn on Wi-Fi based on location using cell tower locations and claimed that it didn't use any battery since it wasn't firing up the GPS or constantly scanning for Wi-Fi. This may be how Smart mode works except that it's reliant on Location Reporting. I suppose at this point in time my guess is as good as yours as to what/how Smart mode actually works.