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Questions about Froyo...

So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!

You don't have to do anything. It will come out as an OTA, Cyanogen will get his hands on it immediately if not a few days before the release and it will be incorporated into his ROM. You will likely have an updated version from him based on Froyo including all his extra goodies before the stock OTA is even 100% rolled out [they usually do it over a couple days].

spectrum21 said:
So I have rooted my N1 and have cyanogen, when froyo comes out and I decide i want to try it out, do i have to upload the original rom and then upgrade? or what is the best way to do it? so i can go back to cyanogen if i decide i like it better? trying to keep it as simple as possible...Thanks!!!
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FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.

ChillRays said:
Where do you get June from? I'm just curious because I clicked the link and I didn't see it.
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From Adobe. Check this out:
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2010/04/moving_forward.html
We look forward to delivering Flash Player 10.1 for Android smartphones as a public preview at Google I/O in May, and then a general release in June. From that point on, an ever increasing number and variety of powerful, Flash-enabled devices will be arriving which we hope will provide a great landscape of choice.
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Flash requires 2.2, so a "general release" in June would mean that 2.2 would arrive sometime before then or concurrently.
Either way, we (rooters) will get both much, much earlier.

Thanks paul. I hope theres a ton of youtube videos that come from that convention.
I hope froyo has this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae01yz5z99E
Also if you get bored, watch that video over again with closed captoning, very funny =)

I doubt google is bundling Flash with the AOSP code. That would mean adobe is making flash open source(not happening) or google is locking up android(not happening). With all the talk about decoupling the android OS, the chances of something like a video player being bundled to the main OS update happening are very very very minute.

Flash will be a separate .apk, but the OS will need the frameworks to support it.

Paul22000 said:
FroYo will be released in June.
Google I/O is next Wednesday.
http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/
2.2 will be leaked next Wednesday.
We will get it.
And laugh at people who haven't rooted.
P.S. Is it just me or does this question come up a lot? And probably will increase over the next few days/weeks...
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Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?

paulk_ said:
Just wondering why you say that 2.2 will be leaked during the I/O?
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It irritates me because he states it as a blatant fact, where it should be said as something less direct. It is a possibility.. but it isn't exactly set in stone to happen - especially with how Google has been so closed about this release.
Froyo being leaked would be a god send, but I won't be holding my breath, simply to be suffocated at the end.

Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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p-slim said:
Why do you guys think flash requires 2.2? It comes incorporated into 2.2 but if you have 2.1 you will be able to install the apk and be good. Adobe said flash is coming to android 2.0 and above.
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It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.

so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mduber said:
so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?

ChillRays said:
Lord, how many people are going to ask this question?
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Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.

Read mang read... this thread only has 2pages
mduber said:
so will my rooted nexus still get the 2.2 froyo when it comes out? or do I have to relock it.
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mortzz said:
It requires 2.2. For a laugh I tried the flashplayer apk on my stock 2.1 installation and the package failed.
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so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.

p-slim said:
so you have the froyo leak and the flash apk, and you are confirming that flash will not work on 2.1? if this is the case the people in the ppcgeek forum waiting for the evo and the incredible forum are going to be highly upset until their phone is rooted.
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Yep, at least not in its current state.
(That's what they get for buying SenseUI!)

its going to suck having to load everything back on to my phone, since this isn't a cyanogen update we will have to wipe everything. then its going to suck when cyanogen comes out with his rom a week or 2 later then we will have to wipe everything again to load cyanogen rom

mortzz said:
Oh you have no idea. When 2.2 launches there is going to be a LANDSLIDE of "OMG why dont i haev over the air update!?!?!" threads.
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I credit this to the lack of good stickies in this forum. Ok maybe I should change the word "good" to "useful" stickies. But there really should be a good Q&A sticky to answer everybody's question so that they don't ask it again in a new thread. For example: how many posts have you seen recently that ask "how do I root my phone?".. not many (unless its people panicing because they think they've bricked their phone) and thats because of that sticky at the top. I'm sure Paul will put together a guide (someday) and it will be at the top in no time.
Mod edit: I will pass your suggestion to the responsible forum mods.

2.2 news and speculations

Good evening!
now, as we all have 2.1 it's a good time to start thinking of possible 2.2 upgrade. Has anyone heard anything? are there any rumors anywhere? Please post anything you can find!
Good Luck to us all and fingers crossed we will get 2.2 before 3.0 comes out!

panjote said:
Good evening!
now, as we all have 2.1 it's a good time to start thinking of possible 2.2 upgrade. Has anyone heard anything? are there any rumors anywhere? Please post anything you can find!
Good Luck to us all and fingers crossed we will get 2.2 before 3.0 comes out!
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ya rumour is we wont get this, but may receive next update.

robbyf66 said:
ya rumour is we wont get this, but may receive next update.
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Lol
/topic

dont be so greedy which u just got your 2.1 update for a day!

panjote said:
now, as we all have 2.1
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Oh yeah..?

check your set and you will see it is mentioned 2.1 update 1 , i think they are more to work on the 2.1 before thinking in 2.2

2.3 not 3.0
Its 2.3 not 3.0 numbnuts!

Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!

Why start people whining about the next evolution lol, na 2.2 is an easy update from 2.1 so will 2.3 i feel though that new we have the 2 base 2.2 might come faster, 2.3 is a definate no though as the handset dont have enough ram.

solo13 said:
check your set and you will see it is mentioned 2.1 update 1 , i think they are more to work on the 2.1 before thinking in 2.2
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Yes, as normal for S/E, they have to make 352 "updates" to 2.1 before they move on to the next version OS...
- just wait and see...

My_Immortal said:
Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!
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Rn't you satisfied with the results?

as walt mosspuppet would say;
"shut up"
if your thinking who the hell is walt mosspuppet click here
but srsly,
if (sony have learnt there lesson)
{
console.WriteLine ("upgrade to android 2.3 and release slightly later than most other android devices")
}
else
{
console.WriteLine ("upgrade to android 2.2 when people are getting android 3.0")
}

For speculation: SE said that they will support their product for 2 years after it launch, so therefore 2.2 should be in the works. If for any reason that they wont update to 2.2, it's because of hardware limitation (probably excuse that SE makes)

kill3rmus said:
For speculation: SE said that they will support their product for 2 years after it launch, so therefore 2.2 should be in the works. If for any reason that they wont update to 2.2, it's because of hardware limitation (probably excuse that SE makes)
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LOL!
Wouldn't be the first time now, would it?!
We all remember the story of MT and hardware not capable of it...

The x10 is fully capable of running 2.2, but my guess is they will skip over it and go to 2.3 sometime in the spring.

Bialynia said:
The x10 is fully capable of running 2.2, but my guess is they will skip over it and go to 2.3 sometime in the spring.
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that will have to wait until they are done with all 2.1x update...then they will start talking about future OS update

njfpolyr6 said:
that will have to wait until they are done with all 2.1x update...then they will start talking about future OS update
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Rikard clearly said on the blog that 2.1x upgrade may also include an OS upgrade, that decision had simply not been made yet.

I'd be happy with FLASH web bowsing.
Just that.

My_Immortal said:
Seeing the 2.1 update, the idea of Froyo from the SE dev team, gives me the creeps...
lol!
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Walk lightly. Say anything that could be perceived as even slightly negative and pilote will lock the thread down quicker than you can say Jimmy crack corn!
You have to say things like: The X10 is the greatest out dated device ever made. And, how glad you are that SE stripped away all the great features of Android. They were just getting in the way of SE's perfect UI. And, than how glad you are that boot loader has been lock down so that no one is able to change a thing.
And there would have to be things like, who really wants 2.2 anyway? Heck, you can get that with any other phone on the market. Plus getting flash 10.1 would just make you waste too much time on the phone streaming videos. And, that would just kill the battery faster giving you less time to spend with your baby.
Plus there would be all those apps that you can't get with 2.1, and they would just burn up all your free memory.
The X10 is perfect and SE know exactly how to take care of her customers . Now who in their right minds would want to change from all of this? I only wish I could have paid more for mine!

whatever they do they just better not release a X10 HD model with 2.2 on there with multi-touch.
if they do, i'm never using a SE product ever again.

[ICS 4.0.3] Rollout restarted for Nexus S

Getting now ICS 4.0.3, very very slow download.

What??? Same version? Good to know they tried so hard to fix the bugs...
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I take it you're referring to the stock ROM? I wonder if the rollout has restarted or if you're just in a test region. Shame it's still 4.0.3 though, I would have thought they would have incremented the build if they have incorporated all the fixes required...

Ics 4.0.3 MR1

MR1 is the build that was originally pushed out and then paused...have Google fixed anything at all?
This is a pretty poor way to treat Nexus owners, by definition we're all either devs or early adopters yet they still fail to keep us up to date or even issue a statement about what the problem is for weeks.

The update server was turned back on yesterday for both the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S. So far nothing new has rolled out. The same versions that were on the server before they shut it down are what is being rolled out.

Same version or not, hopefully the 9020a's and 4g's of the world get something this time.

Do you have still "battery drain"
My idea is that they have pushed the OTA just because the OTA server is just one for both the nexus.....the different phone will recive they're own firmware as well.

wolf230 said:
My idea is that they have pushed the OTA just because the OTA server is just one for both the nexus.....the different phone will recive they're own firmware as well.
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Well, this would be a nice joke
Let know for battery drain, 73% of download

I wonder...
TheManicGibbon said:
MR1 is the build that was originally pushed out and then paused...have Google fixed anything at all?
This is a pretty poor way to treat Nexus owners, by definition we're all either devs or early adopters yet they still fail to keep us up to date or even issue a statement about what the problem is for weeks.
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Is it possible that the update version is still the same. Kinda like what happened when they release GB 2.3.6?

PhoenixIce22 said:
Is it possible that the update version is still the same. Kinda like what happened when they release GB 2.3.6?
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It's still build IML74K so it is the exact same release.

Yeah if it was different in any way, it would have a different build number. The update that is rolling out OTA is EXACTLY the same as the one before it was paused.

Wouldn't it be nice if Google would bother to make a statement regarding weather they found a problem with 4.0.3 or not. Instead of just turning the servers back on and making everyone guess. It's not like they need a press conference, they could have just posted something/anything on G+ or Twitter.
Why choose to leave your customers in the dark constantly, especially as the main owners of the Nexus S are dev's for Google's Android community.
Sometimes you have to wonder what the **** Google is thinking.

bozzykid said:
It's still build IML74K so it is the exact same release.
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yes, IMLK74
KERNEL 3.0.8 gb55e9ac [email protected]#1

petrochemicals said:
Why choose to leave your customers in the dark constantly, especially as the main owners of the Nexus S are dev's for Google's Android community.
Sometimes you have to wonder what the **** Google is thinking.
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Complitely right

petrochemicals said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Google would bother to make a statement regarding weather they found a problem with 4.0.3 or not. Instead of just turning the servers back on and making everyone guess. It's not like they need a press conference, they could have just posted something/anything on G+ or Twitter.
Why choose to leave your customers in the dark constantly, especially as the main owners of the Nexus S are dev's for Google's Android community.
Sometimes you have to wonder what the **** Google is thinking.
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I completely agree....I think if enough people ask them about it on G+ and twitter we may get an answer

So what was the point about pausing the OTA if it's the same build again?

AskingBen said:
So what was the point about pausing the OTA if it's the same build again?
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good question!

I believe Google said that they paused the OTA to monitor feedback NOT to fix bugs, so how are they leaving us in the dark??

SupaDupaFly24 said:
I believe Google said that they paused the OTA to monitor feedback NOT to fix bugs, so how are they leaving us in the dark??
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So far I know, Google said nothing. No official statements. Only thing was one post in helpdesk forums, when they said the OTAs can be on hold for specific region. No official cause was stated why or if it is on hold. That was a crowd created story.
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[Q] Question on ICS upgrade

Does the ICS upgrade wipe all installed programs, pictures, videos etc. off your tablet or are they still there once the upgrade is done?
thanks

spud357c said:
Does the ICS upgrade wipe all installed programs, pictures, videos etc. off your tablet or are they still there once the upgrade is done?
thanks
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Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes. It will even cook your Bacon and eggs Probably access your bank accounts as well (not that there's anything in it mind you).
Seriously, considering NOBODY has an official ICS Update via OTA, there is no possible way to tell you exactly what will happen.
I would say, 65% of all OTA Update users will have no issues, and not lose any data.
The other 35% will bork their tabs for whatever reason, and eventually lose all data, because...... they don't do backups.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315683&page=19

Moscow Desire said:
Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes. It will even cook your Bacon and eggs Probably access your bank accounts as well (not that there's anything in it mind you).
Seriously, considering NOBODY has an official ICS Update via OTA, there is no possible way to tell you exactly what will happen.
I would say, 65% of all OTA Update users will have no issues, and not lose any data.
The other 35% will bork their tabs for whatever reason, and eventually lose all data, because...... they don't do backups.
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Update didn't cook me any damn breakfast :-(
However it went smooth up gives you all of acres new Widgets but no Acer lock nor Acer ring bastards..
I needed to go to stock cuz I'm sending unit in for repair so just downloaded vaches 3.1 no ota update.zip unrooted and updated all the way to ics I was surprised it was released earlier than 27th normally it would have been delayed lol not early. Anyways its definitely a nice update for all you stock users.
PS I have not a clue how people use this stock SOOO BORING!
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dincdoes.me said:
Update didn't cook me any damn breakfast :-(
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Dude, sorry! I specifically told them 3, sunny side up. 1 side of bacon, grits, and sourdough rolls!
Oooops... that was my order, you got the Alpo. Sorry dinc.
Suppose we will be reading all the update posts now for the next 10 weeks.......

terrormattie said:
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oooops.... facepalm... spoke too soon.

Lol no thanks for the dog food ill make my own damn food and yes we will here about it till jellybeans.
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spud357c said:
Does the ICS upgrade wipe all installed programs, pictures, videos etc. off your tablet or are they still there once the upgrade is done?
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Im not sure if it was supose to but my upgrade did NOT wipe any thing. Just added a few apps.

Im so over ICS. . I WANT JELLY BEAN . And i want it now..
my question about this coming update. Will it be Jelly bean or will that come in the weeks to come. My a 500 would look awesome with Jelly Bean and might come in handy if i need a snack.
For breakfast i want Sausage eggs and Toast no rolls... Lets get to it im hungry.

erica_renee said:
Im so over ICS. . I WANT JELLY BEAN . And i want it now..
my question about this coming update. Will it be Jelly bean or will that come in the weeks to come. My a 500 would look awesome with Jelly Bean and might come in handy if i need a snack.
For breakfast i want Sausage eggs and Toast no rolls... Lets get to it im hungry.
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Erica u better not have just started a new ****storm !
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Official ICS update came yesterday , It keeps everything including your wallpapers and homescreen layout....

Any news on the official ICS update?

They said it was to be released in Q3 of this year and we're already in Q4. Are they skipping ICS and updating us to JB?

:facepalm: what calendar are you looking at...q3 is still 2 weeks from ending, also why open a new thread when you could have just posted in one of the others...
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Tuesday
and if you go to wal-mart right around midnight you might catch the girl putting it on the new release racks

KulDrive said:
They said it was to be released in Q3 of this year and we're already in Q4. Are they skipping ICS and updating us to JB?
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It's delayed and will be released in Q5.

quetzalcoatl2435 said:
It's delayed and will be released in Q5.
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Finally, a voice of reason.

Actually it's already out, but it only came in cookies and cream and I'm going to hold out for neopolitan.

againareku said:
Actually it's already out, but it only came in cookies and cream and I'm going to hold out for neopolitan.
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I think I'll hold out for strawberry cheesecake.

pre4speed said:
I think I'll hold out for strawberry cheesecake.
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http://www.turkeyhill.com/products/ice-cream-sandwiches-flavors.aspx?pID=271
it's out, hurry before they pull the plug on the OTA update

againareku said:
http://www.turkeyhill.com/products/ice-cream-sandwiches-flavors.aspx?pID=271
it's out, hurry before they pull the plug on the OTA update
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I got it!

Nope. I think Motorola is skipping ICS and JB. They are waiting to update our Atrix to Key Lime Pie. Please be patient. :highfive:

A source close to Moto informed me a WP7 firmware is about to roll out. Stay tuned.

I'm pretty sure that the Motorola Service Centre guy I talked to promised a Q4 release of BlackBerry 10 for the Atrix...
He said that the Blur version for that update would be 4.5.199 and that the update would bring LTE to our Atrixes The update is so magical, that guy said that our capacitive buttons will dissapear and the gesture pad along with the BlackBerry branding will take its place!
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!

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I'm pretty sure that the Motorola Service Centre guy I talked to promised a Q4 release of BlackBerry 10 for the Atrix...
He said that the Blur version for that update would be 4.5.199 and that the update would bring LTE to our Atrixes The update is so magical, that guy said that our capacitive buttons will dissapear and the gesture pad along with the BlackBerry branding will take its place!
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!
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Wow I like that idea! Hey I heard that they are gonna give us ios 5 with the buttons also disappearing and one button with thumb scanner will control everything. Not sure about that one tho, might be moto pulling our leg.

The lines on Motocheck said it will be tomorrow for the leak
1. butters.nightly.0.0.400
2. simpsons went down yesterday and up now
3. Tuesday
4. Bionic got new leak
5. They need time(10-14 days) for atrix soak
6. Birthday of Mark Shuttleworth (we must get Ubuntu for Android in new leak)

Vazay said:
The lines on Motocheck said it will be tomorrow for the leak
1. butters.nightly.0.0.400
2. simpsons went down yesterday and up now
3. Tuesday
4. Bionic got new leak
5. They need time(10-14 days) for atrix soak
6. Birthday of Mark Shuttleworth (we must get Ubuntu for Android in new leak)
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Keep searching, people!
Sent from that Atrix... Motorola, where's my ICS?!

I read that Moto will now use WebOS instead of Android
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In before thread close.

Nope, you are all wrong Motorola will give us Windows Mobile 98. And their slogan is: "The world's most powerful phone is now world's first phone with WM98"

Annnnnnnnnnnd, this is why you use the search button everyone.

The OP didn't even have to use the search button. There are at least 2 ICS threads on the first page alone... But, hey, why not create more and fill the first page of the General section all about ICS.
At least, that's what I get from seeing another new member with mad necromancy skills bringing ancient ICS threads back from the dead.