So I've been reading through lots of posts on the forum and over at Howard Forums about whether you can get the TyTN to use the UMTS network on Cingular.
Some people have said that your IMEI number has to be registered in your data account with Cingular otherwise you don't actually jump on their UMTS network (even though you see the "U" on your display).
Some people have said that you only need a 3G SIM card (which I have) and the same GPRS settings and that you will then be able to use UMTS.
I called Cingular Data Support yesterday and asked these questions, and whether you need to have the UMTS_AUTO_ATTACH_FEATURE item on your account to enable UMTS and he told me:
1. Your phone IMEI does in fact need to be in your data account setup, otherwise your phone doesn't actually use (or won't register to) the UMTS network.
2. If it isn't, you are just using the GSM network, even though your phone might be showing the "U".
He tried entering my IMEI number into my data account, but he said it comes up as "UNKNOWN." Normally he said that when you enter a valid IMEI number (from the 3G phone models they sell), it automatically adds several features to your data account that enable UMTS, such as the UMTS_AUTO_ATTACH_FEATURE item.
So.... that said, I'm still not 100% sure that I agree/belive this. The reason being is that when I'm downtown (I live in Seattle), or really most places in the city, I have the U indicator, and additionally my phone shows I'm on the "UMTS Cingular" network--I also have the same roaming indicator problem that people have discussed on other threads.
Also, when I run the speed test at dslreport.com, I get average speeds between 822 - 976Kbs on the speed test.
When I am at home, my phone switches to the "G" symbol and the network name changes back to "Cingular"--I live in a bit of a signal shadow. When I run the speed test, I only get speeds around 235 - 322Kbs.
So it would seem to me that when my phone shows the "U" symbol that I'm actually on UMTS due to the data speeds I'm getting, vs. the data speeds I'm getting while on the "G" symbol (GPRS).
Any ideas or thoughts?
Not true.
I have a TyTN on Cingular and most definitely am on the UMTS network.
I get HSDPA speeds when it shows "U" and EDGE speeds when it shows "G".
Cingular data support are feeding you a line. All you need is a 3G SIM.
You got bad information. If you have the "U," you're on the UMTS network. Simple as that!
I was on UMTS today. I have a 3g SIM card, but I have just a GSM phone, SE Z520, registered with Cingular.
EDGE isn't capable of speeds in excess of 400kb/sec. Your testing proves that you were running on the UMTS network. For final proof, try this:
Start a large data transfer rate test while on the UMTS network. Now, while the test is running, try calling your phone. Hopefully, you'll be able to see it ringing while the data transfer is still going.
Also see the big U on the old AT&T network.
they told me the same thing, i went to atlanta last weekend and was on UMTS with my TyTN, and got speeds over 500kbit (i do have a 3g sim, they dont have my IMEI on record), so they were most definately wrong. Slingbox is great on 3g btw, hopefully they will turn up Miami soon
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Also see the big U on the old AT&T network.
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Do you have 3G SIM card with ATT&T? How did you get it?
If you have a U it means you are on UMTS. Get the fieldtest utility from the wiki and use it
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I have a TyTN on Cingular and most definitely am on the UMTS network.
I get HSDPA speeds when it shows "U" and EDGE speeds when it shows "G".
Cingular data support are feeding you a line. All you need is a 3G SIM.
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Same here in michigan. just popped in my 3G sim and everything is fast.
So I just registered for the T-Mobile UK/Orange network sharing, and I'm all registered
I've enabled data roaming, however under "Network Operators" I have an option for "T-Mobile" and one for "T-Mobile Orange"
Which one should I choose?
Got a feeling i posted in the wrong section but anyway yeah, whats everyone else on TMo doing?
Just leaving it on automatically detect?
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Leave it on auto.
It'll default to T-Mobile and only use T-Mobile/Orange when you have no signal on T-Mobile itself.
When roaming onto T-Mobile/Orange, you'll only get Edge speeds maximum as opposed to the speeds you can get on T-Mobile's 3G network.
Some time later this year, they're supposed to be merging the 3G networks together as well but until then, it's 2/2.5G only.
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Keep it on auto.
good info, cheers
At first I thought this would be useful, but I find its more annoying than anything. Mine hogs orange, which is pain. Everytime I load up the internet its connected to orange, I do a network scan t-mobile appears and I have a full HSPDA signal and yet it favours oranges Edge or G with unuseable data speeds. every friggin time!!!!!!!
It should only switch to the T-Mobile/Orange network when you don't have coverage on T-Mobile's own network.
It might be an issue with how your handset is set up that it's defaulting to T-Mobile/Orange.
If need be, you can actually opt out of the signal share by texting STOP to 2121.
o right, ok thanks I may consider doing that then as there isnt many places I dip out of signal for long on t-mobile anyway. Having to constantly go through settings to change it back to t-mobile is very annoying.
So I called AT&T this morning to see how my data was provisioned after getting the new SIM for my Nexus 4. I was getting spotty coverage before my re-provision in Tallahassee, FL (a city that is supposed to have HSPA+) and was only seeing HSPA:10 in my phone status screen. I also downloaded the phone info app and ran a ping test...not even a single flash of HSDPA or HSPAP.
Anyway, I called and got my data re-provisioned to an iPhone 5 LTE plan since I bought an iPhone 5 with my last upgrade to unlock and sell overseas. I gave them the IMEI and they successfully moved me to an iPohne 5 LTE plan. Now I knew this wouldn't fixed my problem so I dug through the first 12 pages of this thread. Everything else was garbage anyway lol. I came across this link and added all 5 APNs to my APN list and deleted the one that was there. I did a few speed tests while on the 2nd APN (AT&T HSPA+) and got a maximum of 5.5kbps up and 1.5kbps down. I also re-ran the ping test in the phone info app and saw flashes of HSDPA and HSPAP.
Now on to my question: in my phone status screen I'm only seeing flashes of HSPA+:15 but mostly holding at HSPA:10 and although I'm seeing faster speeds, I'm sure I can see better. Is this normal? Also, I can't connect to any kind of data when I select the 3rd APN, the AT&T LTE one. Is this also normal since I'm not in an LTE market? In my phone info app I have my radio set to WCDMA preferred right now but tried changing it to LTE/CDMA/GSM to see if anything would change on APN 3 but nothing happened.
tl;dr - Are there any APNs I could try or settings I could change to cause more HSPA+:15 data access?
Thanks will be given to any and all helpful responses!
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So I called AT&T this morning to see how my data was provisioned after getting the new SIM for my Nexus 4. I was getting spotty coverage before my re-provision in Tallahassee, FL (a city that is supposed to have HSPA+) and was only seeing HSPA:10 in my phone status screen. I also downloaded the phone info app and ran a ping test...not even a single flash of HSDPA or HSPAP.
Anyway, I called and got my data re-provisioned to an iPhone 5 LTE plan since I bought an iPhone 5 with my last upgrade to unlock and sell overseas. I gave them the IMEI and they successfully moved me to an iPohne 5 LTE plan. Now I knew this wouldn't fixed my problem so I dug through the first 12 pages of this thread. Everything else was garbage anyway lol. I came across this link and added all 5 APNs to my APN list and deleted the one that was there. I did a few speed tests while on the 2nd APN (AT&T HSPA+) and got a maximum of 5.5kbps up and 1.5kbps down. I also re-ran the ping test in the phone info app and saw flashes of HSDPA and HSPAP.
Now on to my question: in my phone status screen I'm only seeing flashes of HSPA+:15 but mostly holding at HSPA:10 and although I'm seeing faster speeds, I'm sure I can see better. Is this normal? Also, I can't connect to any kind of data when I select the 3rd APN, the AT&T LTE one. Is this also normal since I'm not in an LTE market? In my phone info app I have my radio set to WCDMA preferred right now but tried changing it to LTE/CDMA/GSM to see if anything would change on APN 3 but nothing happened.
tl;dr - Are there any APNs I could try or settings I could change to cause more HSPA+:15 data access?
Thanks will be given to any and all helpful responses!
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Have a look at the page before the reply you posted on the question thread. It goes through and explains the different codes stand for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34952203&postcount=681
HSPA:15 is the fastest they have right now and it basically means HSPA+. HSPA:10 is standard HSPA and is used when there is no data being transfered to save on battery (which is why your icon switches between 3G and H).
As to why your speeds are slow, I'd be more likely to blame AT&T than the phone/software. They aren't exactly known for providing a lot of real-life bandwidth to their customers.
Thank you very much for your reply. That makes much more sense! I don't know why I didn't consider data band switching to save battery...cause it pops over to HSPA+ whenever I do the ping test (under load).
As long as I know that I've done everything in my power to get the fastest available speeds, I'm happy. Thanks again!!
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spitefulcheerio said:
Thank you very much for your reply. That makes much more sense! I don't know why I didn't consider data band switching to save battery...cause it pops over to HSPA+ whenever I do the ping test (under load).
As long as I know that I've done everything in my power to get the fastest available speeds, I'm happy. Thanks again!!
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I changed my settings when I got my Nexus 4
I named it ATT US HSDPA
APN Phone
Proxy Not set
Port Not set
Username Not set
Password Not set
MMSC Not set
MMS Port Not set
MCC 310
Auth Type Not set
APN default, supl, agps, mms, fota, dun
Everything else stays the same.
My speeds increased to a consistent 7-8 and sometimes as high as 10.0
Verizon is at it again. When using a T-Mobile SIM in my XT1060 with 4.4.2, I'm stuck on EDGE where I'd previously get HSPA+. The APN setup has been fixed, so it no longer disappears, but it doesn't really matter if you're stuck on 2G.
4.2.2
Worked perfectly with HSPA+ and LTE
4.4
Broke APN setup
Gimped HSPA+ speeds
4.4.2
Fixed APN setup
EDGE only data
EDIT: EDGE is forced in Global mode; select LTE/GSM/UMTS and UMTS only to restore HSPA+; wait for the modem to cycle and allow the SIM to register on the network
I still have issues with HSPA+ speeds on my phone. It could be a localized issue, but I'll have to do further testing.
So, it's officially useless.
All have voice/SMS, though some had issues with voice on T-Mo's LTE.
You are the second person to report this. Could you try a factory wipe or something? I have no idea why it would be EDGE only.
I am curious what would have changed. I did compare the built in APN list between 4.4 and 4.4.2 and noticed the built in APN for T-Mobile US changed from fast.t-mobile.com on 4.4 to epc.t-mobile.com in 4.4.2 which is an older APN. Have you tried manually adding back the fast.t-mobile.com APN?
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I am curious what would have changed. I did compare the built in APN list between 4.4 and 4.4.2 and noticed the built in APN for T-Mobile US changed from fast.t-mobile.com on 4.4 to epc.t-mobile.com in 4.4.2 which is an older APN. Have you tried manually adding back the fast.t-mobile.com APN?
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Only the unlocked phones automatically add APNs. With the Verizon XT1060, I have to manually enter the APNs, and I only use fast.t-mobile.com.
On top of the EDGE only limitation, it occasionally times out completely, so that there's no throughput up or down through the modem. It seems Verizon has completely gimped data on other carriers. I disabled the Verizon APN and APN Permissions apps, but there's something deeper that's causing this. It could be in the kernel, which wouldn't be a good thing at all.
The kicker though is (excerpt from FCC's C Block Rules):
(e) Handset locking prohibited. No licensee may disable features on handsets it provides to customers, to the extent such features are compliant with the licensee's standards pursuant to paragraph (b)of this section, nor configure handsets it provides to prohibit use of such handsets on other providers' networks.
The key words are disable features and prohibit. Technically, they aren't prohibiting access of the handset on T-Mobile's network, but they are limiting it in a way.
I got H+ with 4.4.2 on my VZW Dev X. I had to edit the APN Type setting to be default,mms,supl. The rest of the settings matched my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 LTE's APN settings. Under mobile network settings, I also have selected LTE/GSM/UMTS.
I am at the office where it is serviced by an internal antenna system, so I don't have T-Mobile LTE, and I don't think its setup for 1900Mhz UMTS, but there is a refarmed T-Mobile antenna and LTE outside.
Ok, now it switched to just bars. And back to Edge. Not sure if this is due to the internal antenna system or the update.
Voice calls (in/out) work, SMS send/receive works, MMS send/receive works, web browser works, Hangouts works.
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I got H+ with 4.4.2 on my VZW Dev X. I had to edit the APN Type setting to be default,mms,supl. The rest of the settings matched my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 LTE's APN settings. Under mobile network settings, I also have selected LTE/GSM/UMTS.
I am at the office where it is serviced by an internal antenna system, so I don't have T-Mobile LTE, and I don't think its setup for 1900Mhz UMTS, but there is a refarmed T-Mobile antenna and LTE outside.
Ok, now it switched to just bars. And back to Edge. Not sure if this is due to the internal antenna system or the update.
Voice calls (in/out) work, SMS send/receive works, MMS send/receive works, web browser works, Hangouts works.
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Keep us posted on how it progresses throughout the day.
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Keep us posted on how it progresses throughout the day.
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I wont be able to do anything until at least tonight when I get home.
KidJoe said:
I got H+ with 4.4.2 on my VZW Dev X. I had to edit the APN Type setting to be default,mms,supl. The rest of the settings matched my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 LTE's APN settings. Under mobile network settings, I also have selected LTE/GSM/UMTS.
I am at the office where it is serviced by an internal antenna system, so I don't have T-Mobile LTE, and I don't think its setup for 1900Mhz UMTS, but there is a refarmed T-Mobile antenna and LTE outside.
Ok, now it switched to just bars. And back to Edge. Not sure if this is due to the internal antenna system or the update.
Voice calls (in/out) work, SMS send/receive works, MMS send/receive works, web browser works, Hangouts works.
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This makes sense as the change in the default APN was the only obvious change I saw between 4.4 and 4.4.2. It's at least encouraging that you got HSPA+ to work by changing the APN. Have the others with problems tried changing or adding a new APN to match the one from the previous build? For reference here is the old and new APN information copied directly from the APN list on the Verizon Moto X.
XT1060 with 4.4 built in T-Mobile APN:
<apn auth="NONE" mmsc="http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc" password="none" server="*" user="none" apn="fast.t-mobile.com" mnc="260" mcc="310" carrier="T-Mobile US" protocol="IPV4V6" mtusize="1440"/>
XT1060 with 4.4.2 built in T-Mobile APN:
<apn auth="NONE" mmsc="http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc" password="none" server="*" user="none" apn="epc.tmobile.com" mnc="260" mcc="310" carrier="T-Mobile US" preloaded="true" type="default,mms,supl,hipri,fota" protocol="IP" mtusize="1440"/>
Mine is still on EDGE, and doesn't even bother going to HSPA+ even though it's in the area. Even without the APN setup, it would automatically connect to HSPA+. The speeds just wouldn't be right until you put in the APN settings.
Speedtest reported 0.01Mbps down and 0.02Mbps up, so it's definitely 2G and not a reporting bug.
Jason.DROID said:
Mine is still on EDGE, and doesn't even bother going to HSPA+ even though it's in the area. Even without the APN setup, it would automatically connect to HSPA+. The speeds just wouldn't be right until you put in the APN settings.
Speedtest reported 0.01Mbps down and 0.02Mbps up, so it's definitely 2G and not a reporting bug.
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What do you mean without the APN setup? Just confused as to whether you are describing before on 4.4 and now on 4.4.2. I think everyone is in agreement that the APN settings for T-Mobile on 4.4.2 are wrong which is definitely part if not all of the problem since it's the most obvious change from 4.4. Have you tried adding a new APN using the settings used in the 4.4 build and selecting that as the APN to use?
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What do you mean without the APN setup? Just confused as to whether you are describing before on 4.4 and now on 4.4.2. I think everyone is in agreement that the APN settings for T-Mobile on 4.4.2 are wrong which is definitely part if not all of the problem since it's the most obvious change from 4.4. Have you tried adding a new APN using the settings used in the 4.4 build and selecting that as the APN to use?
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As I told you before, the Verizon Moto X DOES NOT automatically add APNs. It never did on 4.2.2, 4.4, or 4.4.2. Only VZWINTERNET is ever automatically added.
I also said that I'm using fast.t-mobile.com.
It's not the APN setup. HSPA+ is disabled.
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As I told you before, the Verizon Moto X DOES NOT automatically add APNs. It never did on 4.2.2, 4.4, or 4.4.2. Only VZWINTERNET is ever automatically added.
I also said that I'm using fast.t-mobile.com.
It's not the APN setup. HSPA+ is disabled.
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I know what you said but you are referring to what shows on the APN list in Mobile Settings. Just because an APN doesn't show in that list doesn't mean it isn't preloaded into the phone but set to not be viewable. There is a huge list of APN's preloaded onto the Moto X for just about every major GSM carrier in the world and these are used when a SIM used when on that carrier (file pulled directly from my Moto X is attached in the zip file to this post). If the APN preloaded is wrong it will cause problems with data working. My question on you using the APN from 4.4 wasn't just the APN address of fast.t-mobile.com but also the remaining settings which matter as well such as protocol and type. I am just trying to help from my experience dealing with these sorts of issues and the fact that another user got HSPA+ to work earlier today is what made me think there might be more to it.
Anyway I should have access to a friends AT&T Nano SIM in the next day or two and since it uses the same band of HSPA+ as T-Mobile does on the Moto X I can check on that too.
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I know what you said but you are referring to what shows on the APN list in Mobile Settings. Just because an APN doesn't show in that list doesn't mean it isn't preloaded into the phone but set to not be viewable. There is a huge list of APN's preloaded onto the Moto X for just about every major GSM carrier in the world and these are used when a SIM used when on that carrier (file pulled directly from my Moto X is attached in the zip file to this post). If the APN preloaded is wrong it will cause problems with data working. My question on you using the APN from 4.4 wasn't just the APN address of fast.t-mobile.com but also the remaining settings which matter as well such as protocol and type. I am just trying to help from my experience dealing with these sorts of issues and the fact that another user got HSPA+ to work earlier today is what made me think there might be more to it.
Anyway I should have access to a friends AT&T Nano SIM in the next day or two and since it uses the same band of HSPA+ as T-Mobile does on the Moto X I can check on that too.
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I know they're included in the build, but I've ALWAYS had to manually add the APN to get things working properly; the included APNs are usually for carrier unlocked retail phones like the XT1053. In 4.4, manually added APNs would usually disappear, but I found a workaround to make it stay. Still, HSPA+ was artificially limited (0.05-0.20Mbps down, 1.0Mbps up) just like when the APN isn't setup. Now on 4.4.2, it will only connect to EDGE, regardless.
Looking further, even when using fast.t-mobile.com, the phone forces epc.tmobile.com and EDGE only. I'm not rooted, so there's nothing I can do about it.
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I know they're included in the build, but I've ALWAYS had to manually add the APN to get things working properly; the included APNs are usually for carrier unlocked retail phones like the XT1053. In 4.4, manually added APNs would usually disappear, but I found a workaround to make it stay. Still, HSPA+ was artificially limited (0.05-0.20Mbps down, 1.0Mbps up) just like when the APN isn't setup. Now on 4.4.2, it will only connect to EDGE, regardless.
Looking further, even when using fast.t-mobile.com, the phone forces epc.tmobile.com and EDGE only. I'm not rooted, so there's nothing I can do about it.
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Okay that is bizarre. I just remembered one of my coworkers had a iphone 5s on t-mobile and just borrowed her SIM. I am also on a stock, non-rooted Verizon Moto X running 4.4.2 and it connected to HSPA+ immediately. I didn't even change the APN at all. I even ran a speed test and got 4.33MB down and 1.84MB up. Here is a screen shot of the status attached. Not sure why it worked for me and not for you.
Could be time for an FDR, but before that, I'm gonna try a different area of service.
I have another T-Mobile SIM that I can register as well if all else fails.
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Could be time for an FDR, but before that, I'm gonna try a different area of service.
I have another T-Mobile SIM that I can register as well if all else fails.
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Yeah I wish I could tell you that I did something special to get HSPA+ to work, I literally did nothing other then take out my Verizon one and put in the T-Mobile one, didn't even do a restart or change it off of Global (although I did shortly after switch it to LTE/GSM/UMTS to test that as well). The weird thing is it didn't connect to LTE at all when I know on 4.4 I could get it to connect it just wouldn't let you make calls. To be fair I didn't try much to try and get LTE to work aside from adding a new APN with the so called corrected T-Mobile LTE APN settings as my coworker wanted her SIM back. Maybe others can play around with that more.
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Yeah I wish I could tell you that I did something special to get HSPA+ to work, I literally did nothing other then take out my Verizon one and put in the T-Mobile one, didn't even do a restart or change it off of Global (although I did shortly after switch it to LTE/GSM/UMTS to test that as well). The weird thing is it didn't connect to LTE at all when I know on 4.4 I could get it to connect it just wouldn't let you make calls. To be fair I didn't try much to try and get LTE to work aside from adding a new APN with the so called corrected T-Mobile LTE APN settings as my coworker wanted her SIM back. Maybe others can play around with that more.
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I even went into fastboot and erased the modemst1 and modemst2 again to have it reregister everything. Still nothing. Unless T-Mobile removed HSPA+ from the area around my home recently, I'd say it's the phone.
I'll keep playing with it. I'd really like the 4.4.2 flash files though just to be sure something didn't happen in the OTA update.
Jason.DROID said:
I even went into fastboot and erased the modemst1 and modemst2 again to have it reregister everything. Still nothing. Unless T-Mobile removed HSPA+ from the area around my home recently, I'd say it's the phone.
I'll keep playing with it. I'd really like the 4.4.2 flash files though just to be sure something didn't happen in the OTA update.
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In Mobile Network settings what do you have selected under Select Network (the last option)? Do you have it on Automatic or UMTS only? Also try downloading this application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher
Then once you have it try setting the preferred network to WCDMA only or GSM Auto and see if that helps as well.
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In Mobile Network settings what do you have selected under Select Network (the last option)? Do you have it on Automatic or UMTS only? Also try downloading this application https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher
Then once you have it try setting the preferred network to WCDMA only or GSM Auto and see if that helps as well.
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Already tried all of that. It only connects to EDGE. I used the hidden phone settings menu to access the more advanced settings, and still no dice.
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I got H+ with 4.4.2 on my VZW Dev X. I had to edit the APN Type setting to be default,mms,supl. The rest of the settings matched my T-Mobile Galaxy S4 LTE's APN settings. Under mobile network settings, I also have selected LTE/GSM/UMTS.
I am at the office where it is serviced by an internal antenna system, so I don't have T-Mobile LTE, and I don't think its setup for 1900Mhz UMTS, but there is a refarmed T-Mobile antenna and LTE outside.
Ok, now it switched to just bars. And back to Edge. Not sure if this is due to the internal antenna system or the update.
Voice calls (in/out) work, SMS send/receive works, MMS send/receive works, web browser works, Hangouts works.
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Just as a follow up.. At home, in an area where T-Mobile has HSPA on 1900mhz, I do get H+ and even LTE (band 4) (LTE speed test screen shot -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/X-STUFF/2014-02-27 01.47.07.png ).
When On LTE, the "bug" of making a call drops signal/service still happens.
When I keep it on UMTS and have an H+ connection, it works fine. And the connection is stable at home.
I'm attaching some shots.
And I should mention, the SIM I'm using is a T-Mobile Nano SIM that I use with an adapter in my T-Mobile Galaxy S3. I had it switched to Nano so I could also put it in my iPhone if/when needed (its a work thing).
So, as some of you know, if you use the XT1060 with T-Mobile and connect to LTE, you'll have one of two issues: 1) it connects to LTE, but you can no longer call out (or receive calls) as the phone falls back to CDMA even when locked out in the network settings, or 2) it doesn't connect to LTE because it locks the T-Mobile 3G APN in even when a manual entry T-Mobile LTE APN is selected (my issue). My X absolutely REFUSED to move to fast.t-mobile.com and failed to connect to LTE and had absolutely no signal whatsoever (no HSPA or GSM even when on LTE/GSM/UMTS). The reason from the tower: APNfailed. Tried a million times to change the APN in the LTE area to no avail.
I've found it will only change to fast.t-mobile.com (manually entered) in a non-LTE area. Well that's a great inconvenience. I had to disable LTE completely and restart the phone to get it back on HSPA+ (or wait 5-10 minutes).
Anyway, the Verizon rep called me to "troubleshoot" my issues when connecting to T-Mobile LTE. I refused to go through the typical troubleshooting steps because none of it worked when I tried, so it's not magically going to change. I found that interesting (that they'd call me) even though I've had no direct contact with Verizon. Anyway, nothing was really resolved.
Both of these issues are violations of the C-block agreement. Also, if you select Global mode, it'll default to EDGE even though HSPA is available. It'll go to HSPA after selecting LTE/GSM/UMTS, UMTS only, then move back to Global. Interesting how they make you go through these hoops, eh?
Jason.DROID said:
So, as some of you know, if you use the XT1060 with T-Mobile and connect to LTE, you'll have one of two issues: 1) it connects to LTE, but you can no longer call out (or receive calls) as the phone falls back to CDMA even when locked out in the network settings, or 2) it doesn't connect to LTE because it locks the T-Mobile 3G APN in even when a manual entry T-Mobile LTE APN is selected (my issue). My X absolutely REFUSED to move to fast.t-mobile.com and failed to connect to LTE and had absolutely no signal whatsoever (no HSPA or GSM even when on LTE/GSM/UMTS). The reason from the tower: APNfailed. Tried a million times to change the APN in the LTE area to no avail.
I've found it will only change to fast.t-mobile.com (manually entered) in a non-LTE area. Well that's a great inconvenience. I had to disable LTE completely and restart the phone to get it back on HSPA+ (or wait 5-10 minutes).
Anyway, the Verizon rep called me to "troubleshoot" my issues when connecting to T-Mobile LTE. I refused to go through the typical troubleshooting steps because none of it worked when I tried, so it's not magically going to change. I found that interesting (that they'd call me) even though I've had no direct contact with Verizon. Anyway, nothing was really resolved.
Both of these issues are violations of the C-block agreement. Also, if you select Global mode, it'll default to EDGE even though HSPA is available. It'll go to HSPA after selecting LTE/GSM/UMTS, UMTS only, then move back to Global. Interesting how they make you go through these hoops, eh?
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Wow. Hopefully something changes with Verizon and letting people use LTE on other carriers. I know almost all Verizon phones don't get LTE on any carrier other than Verizon even if the LTE bands are supported. Verizon is full of crap.