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So ive had an ext partition on my sd card since the mytouch first came out, i never ever use more than 20 apps at any given time so my question is, do i really need it?
You need a EXt partition if you plan on installing 100+ apps that are atleast 1MB each.
so there is nothing in the rom that depends on the ext partition besides ap2sd?
adelco93 said:
so there is nothing in the rom that depends on the ext partition besides ap2sd?
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Depends on the rom. Some Hero roms use the ext because they put certain folders on the sd, like /system and parts of /data I believe. I have tried to run Hero roms without the ext and they will not boot up if you don't have the ext. I have tried it in Qtek's 1.8, Eugene's Espresso, and a couple others. I believe Sensehero does not use the ext, so you can get away without having one on that one.
All donut roms do not require the ext. I think some Eclair roms use ext.
Just gotta look through the specific thread of the rom and see what it calls for.
alright, i guess i'll be leaving my ext intact. Thanks you ace & tazz
adelco93 said:
alright, i guess i'll be leaving my ext intact. Thanks you ace & tazz
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i wouldn't suggest it unless your rom calls for it as i think tazz said... its going to kill your sd and if its not needed, i highly recommend you get rid of it. its a waste of space, ends up killing that part of your sdcard, and again a waste of space.
ok well im on my hero revolution, so thats cupcake which means i dont need ext?
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i wouldn't suggest it unless your rom calls for it as i think tazz said... its going to kill your sd and if its not needed, i highly recommend you get rid of it. its a waste of space, ends up killing that part of your sdcard, and again a waste of space.
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and does it kill the sd card simply because of app2sd? if so cant i just keep the ext but disable ap2sd in my user conf? that way i can keep my sd without having to keep repartitioning my 8gb sd card every time i flash a rom that calls for it
bump, please someone answer?
well depends on the rom. if you disable the ext all together, it won't run because some of them have the /system stuff on it. If it's just apps2sd like JAC's new eclair, you can disable it with a simple edit to the user conf. and just keep it partitioned.
Anything whether it's ext or linux swap will shorten the life of your sd card because it's constantly reading and writing to the phone with those things. It's not like it'll be a drastic noticeable difference, unless you just got a bad card and it craps out on you. Most SD cards come with great warranties (my transcend 16gb class 6 comes with a lifetime warranty) nowadays so it really doesn't matter, just always remember to make back ups and keep them on your pc.
Thank You very much
Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
geekyhawkes said:
Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
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Same problem with me I only have 35 mb free internal memory ,own using cotulla nand desire Rom
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try the desire hd version, it has a bit more space ..
the owner of a hd2 (us) with 1024mb have no problems with that ..
Hi
Did you try titanium backup to move apps from nand to SD, it should be better to give it a try...
Using nexushd2 I have 216 MB free space.
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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TMOUS HD2 Rocks
I just get free space only 99 mb on my hd2, i want to know why each device don't be got free space as same as ones.
My hd2 runs in Colluta's desire nand rom.
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This is not a problem with you guys, it's just with the 512 limit of our devices.
Be patient and someone /Cotulla/ will fix it so that we can install to SD card.
BTW
I just downloaded move2sd and it works just fine. Now my apps go to the sd and i've moved all possible apps to sd.
I am left with 82 mb which should be enough for txt and logs...
Im glad im not by myself with this. I guess the solution will come when the devs get chance to get ext4 up and running on our sd cards as data.img, that way the problem goes away. apps2sd/titanium etc are all fine, but if you have a lot of apps then you will always be in the situation i am of bouncing off the warning of low space.
The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
Google Earth and Flash Player are killing me.
They still hold much space after moving to sd.
Looking forward to app2ext.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
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Sorry man, not tring to be ignorant, I do love my TMo HD2. Ido agree with you on the ext3. I have my N1 w/a2sd and its awesome, no need to worry about space.I had about 95+ apps at one time and still had 150mb free of internal. Im guessing once we get a recovery img. we can then get the ext3 and a2sd working as it should. I have clockworks recovery on my N1 and works awsome. You can Backup any part of your rom even your ext3. Also Amon_RA's recovery is good too cause it has PSfreedom implemented, for those looking at PSFreedom Modds
So I tried using WP7 On hd2.
But I didn't like it as much as Android. So I reverted back to android. But guess what I only have 200mb on SD Card instead of 16gb. (I should have expected this I suppose)
Can anyone tell me how to restore my SD Card to 16gb? I am sure there are others who are curious as well.
Thanks
Try formatting the card, windows, winmo or android, try em, it might work.
Get an adapter, shove it in a camera and format it
cos wp7 creates an unknown format partition. use a partitioning program, see if you can delete the partitions (there will be two, one 200meg fat and one unknown format) then reset a new FAT32 partition for the full size.
Be careful in disk management, delete from the wrong disk and its hello to up-all-night-reinstalling-your-PC, hehe.
I've used geparted live cd...worked fine. You have to delete partition and re- format as any filesystem you want.
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Why's that? Because you didnt even bother to read the read me files like a tard??
Use some common sense ffs, Read info before doing anything like this.
It CLEARY states that WP7 creates partitions on your card and anybody with half a brain would know to re-format card after using a different OS especially one that creates partitions.
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While I agree that the OP is at fault for clearly not reading anything and just flashing (I read instructions and used a different SD card when I tried WP7 - it was VERY clear!!!), I don't see why you feel the need to be so offensive to him. That's just plain out of order man. Stop just dissing people. If you don't have anything constructive to say then just don't say anything.
This is a friendly forum. Be friendly.
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Why's that? Because you didnt even bother to read the read me files like a tard??
Use some common sense ffs, Read info before doing anything like this.
It CLEARY states that WP7 creates partitions on your card and anybody with half a brain would know to re-format card after using a different OS especially one that creates partitions.
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Feel better about yourself after that?
Yup, I should have read about this before flashing but I had fun for a while and went back to Duttys Rom. However, I have 14gb of files and music on the card and a 200mb fat partition. Is there any way of at least retrieving the pictures and music before I reformat? Windows can only see the 200mb. Disk management shows the two partitions but won't let me delete the 200mb partition. Any suggestions?
I hope this guy doesn't treat his kids like that...."hey retard, go clean your room! It's the only way you'll learn"
The internet gives some people license to be morons unfortunately.
To the OP, I hope you get that fixed. If you find a way to fix it let us know which way worked for you in case we have to do the same thing to. I have a few SD cards but I don't want any of them to be rendered useless.
try using minitools partition wizard (home edition). delete both partitions so that each partition is displayed as a whole unpartitioned space and create a PRIMARY partition using fat32. your data was deleted when windows phone 7 was setting up for the first time. luckily i used another card but good luck
if you go bk to android leave a bit of space after when doing the primary fat32 and create a ext2 partition. its in the file system tab in the create partition bit
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Yup, I should have read about this before flashing but I had fun for a while and went back to Duttys Rom. However, I have 14gb of files and music on the card and a 200mb fat partition. Is there any way of at least retrieving the pictures and music before I reformat? Windows can only see the 200mb. Disk management shows the two partitions but won't let me delete the 200mb partition. Any suggestions?
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how about using usb storage in wp7 to transfer the files?
SH4YD33 said:
how about using usb storage in wp7 to transfer the files?
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it wipes the card n formats it when win phone 7 first boots up.
Thanks everyone for their input. I managed to restore my SD Card. I am a happy android user. From my experience, I think android is far more stable than WP7. Android offers more versatility and customization. Again thanks.
Theres a fix for that just search
I couldn't find a way of saving the data so I lost it. Popping it in a camera formatted it perfectly. Won't be running wp7 again. Looks nice but too much hassle to get calendars etc.
To format the sd... put in the camera (mine for example is a nikon) and format it..
For me works well.
But I have another problem: in WP7 I have only some MB free.. so.. I can put in music if I have that little space?
My sd is 8GB...
dissa said:
To format the sd... put in the camera (mine for example is a nikon) and format it..
For me works well.
But I have another problem: in WP7 I have only some MB free.. so.. I can put in music if I have that little space?
My sd is 8GB...
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Well so far I haven't been able to figure out the usb data storage method for wp7 if one even exists... so the only way you can put music and photos and other files onto wp7 is through zune.. if you try usb mass storage in magldr you will only see 200mb but through zune you can transfer files to your 8gb sd card capacity.
zup2sky said:
So I tried using WP7 On hd2.
But I didn't like it as much as Android. So I reverted back to android. But guess what I only have 200mb on SD Card instead of 16gb. (I should have expected this I suppose)
Can anyone tell me how to restore my SD Card to 16gb? I am sure there are others who are curious as well.
Thanks
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to restore back yours 16 Gb, you must reformat your SD with SDformater Windows application.
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Well so far I haven't been able to figure out the usb data storage method for wp7 if one even exists... so the only way you can put music and photos and other files onto wp7 is through zune.. if you try usb mass storage in magldr you will only see 200mb but through zune you can transfer files to your 8gb sd card capacity.
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That is the problem. When I try to transfer just only a song Zune tells me that there is no enough space for the tranfer.
dissa said:
That is the problem. When I try to transfer just only a song Zune tells me that there is no enough space for the tranfer.
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I had the same problem...
What you need to do is:
In Zune, go to 'Settings'. Then click on 'Phone'. Next, click on 'Reserved Space'.
Make the reserved space about 10%. This should give you about 6.5 Gb on an 8 Gig SD card. It also gives WP7 a bit of 'extra memory' to work with.
For a first release, this is an awesome piece of work. A few things don't work, but on the whole I'm impressed. I'm going to test it for a month to see how it performs.
The main functions work - Phone, text, e-mail, music, video. And nearly all of it is automatically set up. Correctly too.
Worked for me. Plenty of room for syncing via Zune.
Enjoy.......
Well its my own fault but I thought maybe I can save some others the heartbreak of a damaged sdcard. We all know that wp7 reformats the sdcard when installing the first time. Also if you switch sdcards while phone is off or anything and then boot into wp7 you will fry your card.
I flashed wp7 just to see what it was all about blah blah. Decided it was time to return to android. Blah blah i stuck my android sdcard with all my backups, pics, work stuff back into the phone and rebooted to flash android back through nand . Somehow i let it boot back to wp7 instead of nand and it killed my card. Lesson learned. Keep your sdcard 10ft. away from Wp7 at all times. Don't switch out your wp7 sdcard till you are actually back in android just to be safe. Oh and backup your sdcard!!!!!!!!
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Though the information is greatly appreciated, why did you post this here? This is a test forum created to see how the site would react to adding sub-forums when the new forum layout project is started on Saturday.
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Mark.
If for any reason your sd card becomes corrupt just use this program: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool.shtml
lol, hard lesson but it was obviously worth it as you wont be stupid enough to do something like that again, especially when it clearly states in read-me that card is partitioned etc.
Thank you for this post, I was not aware that something like this can happen, and now I'll take precautions so it wont happen to me.
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lol, hard lesson but it was obviously worth it as you wont be stupid enough to do something like that again, especially when it clearly states in read-me that card is partitioned etc.
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Did you actually read the second paragraph????? Yes I read the read-me. That's how I knew to use a spare sdcard. Plus the read me states that the card will be reformatted upon first boot and if removed the phone will lose all userdata. Had nothing to do with stupidity. Has to do with a pregnant wife needing my attention and me letting go of the power button to soon. Stuff happens.
Now to be more helpful than negative......unlike the athiest with his stellar "I don't believe in God, but I sure think I am a God of android" bad attitude.
The sdcard wasn't reformatted. It was showing as being damaged. I was able to find a simple, free data recovery program that was able to recover most of the card.
I see this may happen often because after using wp7 you may be in a haste to flash back to android (wp7 is just sad IMO). Just wait till you are booted into android just to be safe. Also while fixing my mess up yesterday I stumbled on another problem.
Recently read a post about partitioning the sdcard for optimum use when ram builds came out. System -ext. for data and another for cache. I picked up this sdcard off the desk after finding my main card had been damaged. Then did a task 29, flashed magdlr, and Mdj's gingerbread. Inserted the sdcard and did first boot. To my surprise I had all of my apps pre loaded and I hadn't logged into Google yet so I knew it wasn't Google data backup that loaded my apps. So I went into root explorer and saw the ext. and then realized which sdcard I had slid in. There for a second I thought "WOW me and mdj have the exact same apps". Blah blah reformatted card and reflashed gingerbread. Done.
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Thank you....srry for the mix up.
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Mark.
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Myself, and a few others, have manged to reformat the SD card in a single button press by puttinf it into a digital camera and using the format option. It shows the card as 200mb but after the lighting quick format reads the correct size...voila.
Thanks...good to know. I will try it today. It took 8 hrs. for that application to fix my sdcard so that the computer could read it. Though my phone still wont read it. Out of 3700 pics I recovered 98% of them, all of my work files and android apps. Got real lucky. Took another hour after that for the computer to copy them to another 16gb card. Made for a long night. Now when I get home I can reformat the bad card and use as backup.
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I´ve repaired a lot Sd cards, usb-sticks.... making a low-level format with this tool:
http://hddguru.com/software/2006.04.12-HDD-Low-Level-Format-Tool/
The only care you have to have is not to format your hd
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I´ve repaired a lot Sd cards, usb-sticks.... making a low-level format with this tool:
http://hddguru.com/software/2006.04.12-HDD-Low-Level-Format-Tool/
The only care you have to have is not to format your hd
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Do you have any suggestions for a good data recovery application. The one I used was free and easy to use but cost me about 4 he's of sleep. I know a lot of ppl experience sdcard corruption frequently maybe we can get it into a sticky that ppl will find before they reformat. I did not know till last night that it was possible to recover drives this way. I almost erased all of my families Christmas pics. PREGNANT wives don't like that kind of news. OF COURSE THE BEST WAY IS TO BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP
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Where is the wp7 Rom
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Its on the table by the remote control!!!
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Where is the wp7 Rom
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okay, i've tried using minitools partition to try and delete the 200mb partition and then recreate the entire 16gb that is my microsd as well as sdformatter with full (erase as well as overwrite) with size adjustment on but the problem is that i can only see one partition, the 200mb partition, i can't even see the the second partition or whatever that wp7 created. I even tried doing the low-level-format but it's still stuck at 200mb!
anyone have any other solutions?
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figured it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10719128&postcount=6
vinbomb said:
okay, i've tried using minitools partition to try and delete the 200mb partition and then recreate the entire 16gb that is my microsd as well as sdformatter with full (erase as well as overwrite) with size adjustment on but the problem is that i can only see one partition, the 200mb partition, i can't even see the the second partition or whatever that wp7 created. I even tried doing the low-level-format but it's still stuck at 200mb!
anyone have any other solutions?
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Just download and install SD Formatter 3 on your pc, run the program and in the options change FORMAT SIZE ADJUSTMENT to ON and leave it at QUICK FORMAT. Dont worry that it only shows the 200MB partition it will reformat your card and bring back its full size. It worked everytime for me.
Mark.
i tried that through android usb storage mode but it would keep on going back to 200mb. the only way that using sdformatter proved to be successful was to connect the microsd through magldr and not through android
thanks for the tip though!
google samsung sd formatter. Format as FAT32 with overwrite enabled. It fixed my bad card when i returned to android
By the way, you have to mount the card via MAGLDR as it wont mount in android (it is detected in windows this way)
vinbomb said:
i tried that through android usb storage mode but it would keep on going back to 200mb. the only way that using sdformatter proved to be successful was to connect the microsd through magldr and not through android
thanks for the tip though!
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have you bought the sd card from ebay? it might be fake. It happened to me too, bought a 32gb microsd, for about 20 euro, knew it was fake, but i just tried my luck. When the package arrived it got myself some brand new earrings, probably worth 2 bucks.
help me
My phone getting slower when i install the applications. the phone memory always decreased when I install every new apps eventhough I install it in my ext memory. What should I do? Can you help me?
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What ROM are you using? And, do u use Apps2SD?
define memory
are you talking about storage memory , or ram?
reduction in storage shouldn't impact on performance, that is unless space is very tight and Android is constantly clearing caches.
What types of apps are you installing?
widgets and and service apps like news/weather, gmail , facebook , twitter etc etc will consume memory while they sync data. If you have several such apps the relatively constant syncing would impinge on overall performance.
if you do have many service apps first try increasing the time between syncs in its settings if you are still suffering then consider un-installing some of them.
re-reading your post I'm going to assume you are installing apps to external sdcard , and not an sd-ext partition.
this will still reduce the internal storage as only the apk is stored on the external sdcard the dex files ( aka dalvik-cache ) are installed on the internal storage.
but it is still unlikely a direct relationship between free space on internal and performance.
the apps on sdcard are stored in encrypted containers this might be causing the overhead, but in all honesty I have never actual used the external sdcard for apps so I can't say what the overhead is or even if it enough to be relevant, but many swear apps to sd-ext is better than sdcard so there may well be something in that theory..
I agree with Effdee. But more info would be beneficial for assistance. As previously asked, what ROM are you using? Is your SD partitioned? So on & so forth....
I don't know if this information will help or not
Mod version: CyanogenMod-6.10-DS
Kernel version : 2.6.35.9-cyanogenmod
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Apr 20 2009,15:30:43
I alredy partitioning my sd card when I root it
How to install app2sd-ext?
Sorry if my english bad
I really appreciate all of you for helping me
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How many apps did you installed? And how much internal storage you have left?
Also, how did you partitioned your SD Card? (IE: Cache, EXT, and FAT32)
Also, go to Setting > Applications > Manage Applications
Look at the the SD card tap to see how many apps the you downloaded are in that area. If none of them is there, that means that you install them in the internal storage. You can move some of them to SD card depending on the apps by going to the Downloaded tap and open each one up and click in "Move to SD Card".
You might think about updating to ezterry's new radio/spl for 14 extra MB of ram. That could help quite a bit. Also play around with CC settings maybe?
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You might think about updating to ezterry's new radio/spl for 14 extra MB of ram. That could help quite a bit.
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agreed, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
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Also play around with CC settings maybe?
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Make sure it is off, I tried cm7 and it was on by default, it seemed faster for a short time then became very slow
this idea of putting swap on a compressed ramdisk is crazy, and it just doesn't work
I'm very surprised it wasn't dropped a long time ago
as for a2sdext
the easiest is to use ra recovery ( partition sdcard )
and then a script like firerat aio ( the a2sd option )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679572
even easier is
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9731-magpie-2010-12-18-hotfix-002/
because it will automatically install the correct kernel ( if you do or don't install ezterry's 2708 radio/spl ) and has ui for a2sdext
Most difficult bit is partitioning the sdcard,
Effdee said:
Make sure it is off, I tried cm7 and it was on by default, it seemed faster for a short time then became very slow
this idea of putting swap on a compressed ramdisk is crazy, and it just doesn't work
I'm very surprised it wasn't dropped a long time ago
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well, ... I do not agree fully. In certain situations, especially when there are many services running in background, it can help, *but* swappiness is to be set very low. So only almost unused parts od the memory are swapped out to compcache and can remain there ...
Also see shadowch31 for a CC script and see if that helps. Stops,cleans and restarts CC I believe. Just throwing out ideas. Every phone works different. Just play
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well, ... I do not agree fully. In certain situations, especially when there are many services running in background, it can help, *but* swappiness is to be set very low. So only almost unused parts od the memory are swapped out to compcache and can remain there ...
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what is the point of using physical memory to store unusable pages of memory to only use cpu grunt to get it back into memory
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what is the point of using physical memory to store unusable pages of memory to only use cpu grunt to get it back into memory
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As far as I know, single pages of a process will be swapped out, not the complete processes. So if a process has for example a lot of static data, which is not used during processing an activity, so this part can be swapped out to compcache. This will be compressed, so the phone has more memory available to start / hold in memory another process ... Especially when fast switching between processes is needed (launching sms-app when receiving a sms?) this *can* be an advantage.
Without compcache this process probably is to be re-launched, which most likely takes more time than switching tasks in memory.
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As far as I know, single pages of a process will be swapped out, not the complete processes. So if a process has for example a lot of static data, which is not used during processing an activity, so this part can be swapped out to compcache. This will be compressed, so the phone has more memory available to start / hold in memory another process ... Especially when fast switching between processes is needed (launching sms-app when receiving a sms?) this *can* be an advantage.
Without compcache this process probably is to be re-launched, which most likely takes more time than switching tasks in memory.
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swap is not very smart about what pages are swapped
end of the day swap was a fudge for linux's poor memory management
and as I said
with the cyanogen rom cc was on, I turned it off and things were much better
you can try and convince me otherwise, but seeing as I have already compared cc on and cc off and find cc off to be much better I doubt you will change my mind
BeenAndroidized said:
How many apps did you installed? And how much internal storage you have left?
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i installed 27 apps and i only have 15.14MB left
BeenAndroidized said:
Also, how did you partitioned your SD Card? (IE: Cache, EXT, and FAT32)
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i don't know what method i use for partitioning my SD Card, but i do it using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727688
BeenAndroidized said:
Also, go to Setting > Applications > Manage Applications
Look at the the SD card tap to see how many apps the you downloaded are in that area. If none of them is there, that means that you install them in the internal storage. You can move some of them to SD card depending on the apps by going to the Downloaded tap and open each one up and click in "Move to SD Card".
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i already do that too. but it dosn't make sense, my SD Card keep decreased when i installed new app
Effdee said:
agreed, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
Make sure it is off, I tried cm7 and it was on by default, it seemed faster for a short time then became very slow
this idea of putting swap on a compressed ramdisk is crazy, and it just doesn't work
I'm very surprised it wasn't dropped a long time ago
as for a2sdext
the easiest is to use ra recovery ( partition sdcard )
and then a script like firerat aio ( the a2sd option )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679572
even easier is
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9731-magpie-2010-12-18-hotfix-002/
because it will automatically install the correct kernel ( if you do or don't install ezterry's 2708 radio/spl ) and has ui for a2sdext
Most difficult bit is partitioning the sdcard,
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so do i have to reinstall my ROM or i just have to install only a2sdext?
i'm sorry if i ask too much. I'm just a newbie and sorry if my english bad
dhyqa said:
so do i have to reinstall my ROM or i just have to install only a2sdext?
i'm sorry if i ask too much. I'm just a newbie and sorry if my english bad
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once you have partitioned your sdcard, after backing up because you will loose everything on sdcard
then run the firerat script
no need to reinstall rom
unless you want the ui for moving apps, this is easier then using the shell script in Firerat
Effdee said:
once you have partitioned your sdcard, after backing up because you will loose everything on sdcard
then run the firerat script
no need to reinstall rom
unless you want the ui for moving apps, this is easier then using the shell script in Firerat
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hhmm.so i have to partitioning my SD Card again right?
to run the firerat script i have to go to fast boot?
dhyqa said:
hhmm.so i have to partitioning my SD Card again right?
to run the firerat script i have to go to fast boot?
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yes afraid you need to repartition sdcard for sdext
many ways to do it but the easiest is with ra recovery
like I said you need to backup stuff on your sdcard first
and you run the firerat script in the rom using terminal
okay
i think to reinstall the new Rom that you gave me is the easier one method than the other one that you've explained to me. and i already try it and it work very well
thanks for everyone who help me find the solution
dhyqa said:
okay
i think to reinstall the new Rom that you gave me is the easier one method than the other one that you've explained to me. and i already try it and it work very well
thanks for everyone who help me find the solution
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it would be very interesting to know if you get better performance with the same apps that were on sdcard now on the sd-ext.
I've not got round to doing my own tests on that yet
Effdee said:
it would be very interesting to know if you get better performance with the same apps that were on sdcard now on the sd-ext.
I've not got round to doing my own tests on that yet
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yes. Now I don't have to waiting to long again to open or to close the app. Because now I have a spacious memory. And I think maybe I'll try to use the radio that you tell me to increase the memory
But not every app can be placed in sd-ext like adobe reader and aldiko book, it still decreased the internal memory
But I think it's better than before
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