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My phone getting slower when i install the applications. the phone memory always decreased when I install every new apps eventhough I install it in my ext memory. What should I do? Can you help me?
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What ROM are you using? And, do u use Apps2SD?
define memory
are you talking about storage memory , or ram?
reduction in storage shouldn't impact on performance, that is unless space is very tight and Android is constantly clearing caches.
What types of apps are you installing?
widgets and and service apps like news/weather, gmail , facebook , twitter etc etc will consume memory while they sync data. If you have several such apps the relatively constant syncing would impinge on overall performance.
if you do have many service apps first try increasing the time between syncs in its settings if you are still suffering then consider un-installing some of them.
re-reading your post I'm going to assume you are installing apps to external sdcard , and not an sd-ext partition.
this will still reduce the internal storage as only the apk is stored on the external sdcard the dex files ( aka dalvik-cache ) are installed on the internal storage.
but it is still unlikely a direct relationship between free space on internal and performance.
the apps on sdcard are stored in encrypted containers this might be causing the overhead, but in all honesty I have never actual used the external sdcard for apps so I can't say what the overhead is or even if it enough to be relevant, but many swear apps to sd-ext is better than sdcard so there may well be something in that theory..
I agree with Effdee. But more info would be beneficial for assistance. As previously asked, what ROM are you using? Is your SD partitioned? So on & so forth....
I don't know if this information will help or not
Mod version: CyanogenMod-6.10-DS
Kernel version : 2.6.35.9-cyanogenmod
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA10000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Apr 20 2009,15:30:43
I alredy partitioning my sd card when I root it
How to install app2sd-ext?
Sorry if my english bad
I really appreciate all of you for helping me
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How many apps did you installed? And how much internal storage you have left?
Also, how did you partitioned your SD Card? (IE: Cache, EXT, and FAT32)
Also, go to Setting > Applications > Manage Applications
Look at the the SD card tap to see how many apps the you downloaded are in that area. If none of them is there, that means that you install them in the internal storage. You can move some of them to SD card depending on the apps by going to the Downloaded tap and open each one up and click in "Move to SD Card".
You might think about updating to ezterry's new radio/spl for 14 extra MB of ram. That could help quite a bit. Also play around with CC settings maybe?
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johnson8cyl said:
You might think about updating to ezterry's new radio/spl for 14 extra MB of ram. That could help quite a bit.
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agreed, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
johnson8cyl said:
Also play around with CC settings maybe?
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Make sure it is off, I tried cm7 and it was on by default, it seemed faster for a short time then became very slow
this idea of putting swap on a compressed ramdisk is crazy, and it just doesn't work
I'm very surprised it wasn't dropped a long time ago
as for a2sdext
the easiest is to use ra recovery ( partition sdcard )
and then a script like firerat aio ( the a2sd option )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679572
even easier is
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9731-magpie-2010-12-18-hotfix-002/
because it will automatically install the correct kernel ( if you do or don't install ezterry's 2708 radio/spl ) and has ui for a2sdext
Most difficult bit is partitioning the sdcard,
Effdee said:
Make sure it is off, I tried cm7 and it was on by default, it seemed faster for a short time then became very slow
this idea of putting swap on a compressed ramdisk is crazy, and it just doesn't work
I'm very surprised it wasn't dropped a long time ago
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well, ... I do not agree fully. In certain situations, especially when there are many services running in background, it can help, *but* swappiness is to be set very low. So only almost unused parts od the memory are swapped out to compcache and can remain there ...
Also see shadowch31 for a CC script and see if that helps. Stops,cleans and restarts CC I believe. Just throwing out ideas. Every phone works different. Just play
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AndDiSa said:
well, ... I do not agree fully. In certain situations, especially when there are many services running in background, it can help, *but* swappiness is to be set very low. So only almost unused parts od the memory are swapped out to compcache and can remain there ...
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what is the point of using physical memory to store unusable pages of memory to only use cpu grunt to get it back into memory
Effdee said:
what is the point of using physical memory to store unusable pages of memory to only use cpu grunt to get it back into memory
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As far as I know, single pages of a process will be swapped out, not the complete processes. So if a process has for example a lot of static data, which is not used during processing an activity, so this part can be swapped out to compcache. This will be compressed, so the phone has more memory available to start / hold in memory another process ... Especially when fast switching between processes is needed (launching sms-app when receiving a sms?) this *can* be an advantage.
Without compcache this process probably is to be re-launched, which most likely takes more time than switching tasks in memory.
AndDiSa said:
As far as I know, single pages of a process will be swapped out, not the complete processes. So if a process has for example a lot of static data, which is not used during processing an activity, so this part can be swapped out to compcache. This will be compressed, so the phone has more memory available to start / hold in memory another process ... Especially when fast switching between processes is needed (launching sms-app when receiving a sms?) this *can* be an advantage.
Without compcache this process probably is to be re-launched, which most likely takes more time than switching tasks in memory.
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swap is not very smart about what pages are swapped
end of the day swap was a fudge for linux's poor memory management
and as I said
with the cyanogen rom cc was on, I turned it off and things were much better
you can try and convince me otherwise, but seeing as I have already compared cc on and cc off and find cc off to be much better I doubt you will change my mind
BeenAndroidized said:
How many apps did you installed? And how much internal storage you have left?
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i installed 27 apps and i only have 15.14MB left
BeenAndroidized said:
Also, how did you partitioned your SD Card? (IE: Cache, EXT, and FAT32)
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i don't know what method i use for partitioning my SD Card, but i do it using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727688
BeenAndroidized said:
Also, go to Setting > Applications > Manage Applications
Look at the the SD card tap to see how many apps the you downloaded are in that area. If none of them is there, that means that you install them in the internal storage. You can move some of them to SD card depending on the apps by going to the Downloaded tap and open each one up and click in "Move to SD Card".
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i already do that too. but it dosn't make sense, my SD Card keep decreased when i installed new app
Effdee said:
agreed, instructions here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139
Make sure it is off, I tried cm7 and it was on by default, it seemed faster for a short time then became very slow
this idea of putting swap on a compressed ramdisk is crazy, and it just doesn't work
I'm very surprised it wasn't dropped a long time ago
as for a2sdext
the easiest is to use ra recovery ( partition sdcard )
and then a script like firerat aio ( the a2sd option )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679572
even easier is
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9731-magpie-2010-12-18-hotfix-002/
because it will automatically install the correct kernel ( if you do or don't install ezterry's 2708 radio/spl ) and has ui for a2sdext
Most difficult bit is partitioning the sdcard,
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so do i have to reinstall my ROM or i just have to install only a2sdext?
i'm sorry if i ask too much. I'm just a newbie and sorry if my english bad
dhyqa said:
so do i have to reinstall my ROM or i just have to install only a2sdext?
i'm sorry if i ask too much. I'm just a newbie and sorry if my english bad
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once you have partitioned your sdcard, after backing up because you will loose everything on sdcard
then run the firerat script
no need to reinstall rom
unless you want the ui for moving apps, this is easier then using the shell script in Firerat
Effdee said:
once you have partitioned your sdcard, after backing up because you will loose everything on sdcard
then run the firerat script
no need to reinstall rom
unless you want the ui for moving apps, this is easier then using the shell script in Firerat
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hhmm.so i have to partitioning my SD Card again right?
to run the firerat script i have to go to fast boot?
dhyqa said:
hhmm.so i have to partitioning my SD Card again right?
to run the firerat script i have to go to fast boot?
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yes afraid you need to repartition sdcard for sdext
many ways to do it but the easiest is with ra recovery
like I said you need to backup stuff on your sdcard first
and you run the firerat script in the rom using terminal
okay
i think to reinstall the new Rom that you gave me is the easier one method than the other one that you've explained to me. and i already try it and it work very well
thanks for everyone who help me find the solution
dhyqa said:
okay
i think to reinstall the new Rom that you gave me is the easier one method than the other one that you've explained to me. and i already try it and it work very well
thanks for everyone who help me find the solution
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it would be very interesting to know if you get better performance with the same apps that were on sdcard now on the sd-ext.
I've not got round to doing my own tests on that yet
Effdee said:
it would be very interesting to know if you get better performance with the same apps that were on sdcard now on the sd-ext.
I've not got round to doing my own tests on that yet
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yes. Now I don't have to waiting to long again to open or to close the app. Because now I have a spacious memory. And I think maybe I'll try to use the radio that you tell me to increase the memory
But not every app can be placed in sd-ext like adobe reader and aldiko book, it still decreased the internal memory
But I think it's better than before
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sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !
you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.
your movie should appear in the Gallery
twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...
Ok so.. I finally after months flashed my second rom
HAd some trouble, I have to admit..
DC~~
I had trouble and I did some wiping and messing with my SD chip and that was the only way I could functionally get a flash..
I just spent a day and a half setting my phone up to my liking and its become apparent apps2sd isn't working and my SD card only has one 1.5 partition out of 2 gb.
Sorry if there are posts with directions of how to work from this point to keep everything while enabling apps2sd and transfering
I dont know where to start searching.
Thanks guys.
"The noob"
get a app called dconfig, it has an option to move your apps so they're on the card.
other than that im not sure what youre asking.
it might be simpler just to flash your phone, format your card and start from scratch.
Cloned2 said:
Ok so.. I finally after months flashed my second rom
HAd some trouble, I have to admit..
DC~~
I had trouble and I did some wiping and messing with my SD chip and that was the only way I could functionally get a flash..
I just spent a day and a half setting my phone up to my liking and its become apparent apps2sd isn't working and my SD card only has one 1.5 partition out of 2 gb.
Sorry if there are posts with directions of how to work from this point to keep everything while enabling apps2sd and transfering
I dont know where to start searching.
Thanks guys.
"The noob"
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do some searching on here, goggle & ppcgeeks for how to root, flash a recovery image, partition your sd card and flash a rom. just make sure the guide you are using and the rom you use is for a cdma based hero.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90380 heres good guide to get you started.
I'm rooted I might just need to flash the Rom with the SD card.formatted correctly... I'm going to try to re find where the apps are stored and save them... id love to just be able to correct my SD config and set up apps2sd and move em over so I can keep my home screen set up as well as the info supplied in my apps and todo lists..
Thanks for the info ... on the road right now (passenger.seat )
Maybe I'm not a newb, I'm just stupid... I rooted using ubuntu karmic and I had apps2sd working before I moved to damage control
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hmm.. Damage control rom comes with Dconfig and it has apps2sd enabled and move apps to sd checked.
Ok heres the thing..
I had a Modaco rom before and with apps2sd enabled and the SD formatted properly.
Plugging my phone into a computer would open up 2 drives... One 1 designated to be 1.5 gb and another .5 gb
How ever now I only see one.. the 1.5 gb
My memory is running low as if everything i've installed is in the phone.
searching through the phone i can't seem to find where these apps are being saved...
Are they on the elusive .5 gb partition I can't seem to see??
i think not... I just rebooted and my available space is 63.74mb
It's all becoming a no brainer that i should reflash the rom with the correct specifications to the SD chip...
But what I want to know, is there a way around this. ( I don't see any options, but I'd love to reformat my SD correctly and get apps2sd working on my own, moving all my apps over there while keeping any stored data intact...) <--- is this possible??
[maybe i should learn how to communicate clearly LOL]
For the moment, Ill back up my SD contents and hunt down how to partition correctly.. then I'll see if I can't find the folders where it is storing downloaded apps... then I'll disable then enable the apps2sd setting in dconfig and download an app... if all goes well i'll start pushing my apps over and do the whol "fix apk uid" in the recovery menu...
Hell maybe ill even decide to get a newer recovery besides 1.2.3 while im at it hahah.. any suggestions would be appreciated
# cd /data/app
# pwd
/system/sd/app
# cd /data/app-private
# pwd
/system/sd/app-private
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So... Why is my memory so low???
I'm about to take my SD chip out and see if I cannot access the contents of these folders without it in...
MY APPS2SD IS WORKING AND HAS BEEN WORKING
Sorry guys... somethings just up[or rather DOWN] with my memory and my SD card reads differently...
Cloned2 said:
Being a newb SUCKS!
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There's only one way to stop being a n00b: Learn.
You're doing fine. My suggestion is to not take it all on at once. Focus on one problem, fix it, learn from it and move on to the next one. You'll be a pro in no time.
I would guess that you need to repartition the SD card when moving from one ROM to the next, but I've never really played with apps2sd. See? You know more about it than I do!
download app: quick systems info
to see if your a2sd is working and how much is being used.
use the dconfig to make sure you have dalvik cached moved to sd... reboot the phone.
i am guessing at this....
you say you had a2sd working before with Madaco and could see 2 drives... that sounds wrong to me. if a2sd was working, then you should not see the 2nd drive. you are only able to see the main larger drive and that is it.. the others are used by android and not available to us.
now that you can not see the 2nd drive. sounds like a2sd is working. the app i suggested should confirm for you.
I did get everything working and my memory remains the same when I install applications.... perhaps I could see the second drive because I'm running Linux and/or the way I formatted the sd or the extension...
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I think what you are describing is your SD-EXT partition (the a2sd partition you made). If you have a 2GB card and partitioned your card to be .5GB EXT, then it will appear your SD is 1.5GB. You get what I'm saying?
I used to be able to see 2 partitions as well. I think it was only with 1.5 ROMs.
If you want to mount both partitions then all you need to do is reboot into recovery and select the USB mount. Then both partitions will show up.
But you really don't need to mess with that second partition. Go to the market and download Titanium Backup. That will backup all your apps and settings. Restoring is a little annoying to do since you have to click for every app but if you buy the donate version then you don't have to do that.
centran said:
I used to be able to see 2 partitions as well. I think it was only with 1.5 ROMs.
If you want to mount both partitions then all you need to do is reboot into recovery and select the USB mount. Then both partitions will show up.
But you really don't need to mess with that second partition. Go to the market and download Titanium Backup. That will backup all your apps and settings. Restoring is a little annoying to do since you have to click for every app but if you buy the donate version then you don't have to do that.
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I perfer Backup For Root Users... does the same thing but is free and is one-click one-shot deal.
As the title suggests on my N1 i keep running out of memory space. I use APP2SD but not all of the apps can get transfered. So what can i do to fix this problem? Some apps like Shazam i need,K-9,handcent, Flextp, but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.Any advice?
Install Titanium Backup.
Use to to either uninstall the apps you dont want (including ones built into ROM if youre rooted) AND/OR us it to force apps to the SD card.
KidTech said:
but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.
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Since they're in /system/app, you cannot delete them without rooting. And even if you can delete them, it won't help you to solve your problem. If you want many application without having space problem, you need to root, install custom rom, use Apps2SD(it will install applications to SD card Ext partition) or Data2Ext.
I'm in the same boat as well. I am consistently hovering around 21-22 mb free. With all the recent updates, it eats up all my memory.
Freaking flash is still 12 mb, google maps is 9.7 mb, music 7.7 etc. Half the google apps I don't even use such as books 4.3 mb and goggles 3.8 mb.
I have to uninstall a few programs every once in a while so I can update another...uggh I guess Google didn't see this coming when they made the n1!
I'm with you. It's annoying as crap.
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Try to see if you can find move2SD Enabler (not sure if it's on the market). It forces your apps to be able to move to SD card. It requires you to be rooted so I'm not sure if that's up your alley or not
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
RogerPodacter said:
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
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Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
If you are rooted... and if you have a decent SD Card (I just use the one that came with mine). I would suggest putting something on it that supports Darktremor. I swear by it for sure... after setting up an sd-ext... installing Darktremor and then running cachesd... I have tons of programs on my phone and I constantly put more on and have not had any issues since. Before, I would run out of memory even with dta2sd. I started removing stuff I didn't use often then decided to finally try out cache2sd and... now... no more problems. It seems like it might be a bit slower on the startup than before (though I never tested to see if it actually is or by how much) but after that it seems to run smooth as silk for me with tons of room to spare. My sd-ext is only 512 MB but you can modify it as you like with the proper partitioning utilities.
Though... this suggestion comes with the advice that you might want to know a bit about what it is I am suggesting before you actually do it. Read into it before you try anything.
Others have lightly touched on it, but most of the google apps are installed directly to the /system partition which is separate from where your downloaded apps are installed. Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
There are also additional options like apps2sdext, but they get a little more advanced as it requires partitioning the sdcard.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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honestly i am lazy, so the only thing i did was use the stock cyanogen allow any app move to sd setting. and it really made a difference. i guess if i wanted to install games that are 200 mb then this wouldnt help. but this method gave like 110mb free so i was happy enough with that.
i never researched the cache2sd or darktremor's method.
also in the past i did use root explorer to move some things from system/ to data/ etc to maximize as much as possible.
There is actually a method that can force enable "Move to SD" button for all apps. Check this link for more info
http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/160560-force-apps-install-sd-without-root.html
However, please be reminded that this implementation is actually based on the Google's app2sd.
So if you move apps with Widgets to SD, they will fail to launch the next time you reboot your phone
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bassmadrigal said:
Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
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Finally! This works, thanks for the tip. It was soooo obvious, but I had never used Ti for this. Tap&hold and choose "Integrate update into ROM".
I just did that to Facebook, Twitter and Google Maps & got over 25 megs new space immediately.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
And this thread is absolutely pointless. This was discussed like 100000 times. There's ONE real solution - and it's A2SD, Apps2EXT, Data2EXT, and another zillion of names for the same thing - rooting, repartitioning SD card, and moving the apps and Dalvik-cache to the EXT partition. All the other solutions are temporary, and while giving some more air to breathe, don't really solve anything for anyone that downloads enough apps.
FAQ, question 9.
Jack, I'm looking into tweaking my partition table to make use of the/cache that hardly gets used in CM.
Do you know much about it?
My biggest problem is getting solid information on the N1 partitions, since I've stumbled across conflicting info...
Any help/guidance would be appreciated!
I guess the most guidance is in the Unrevoked site, the guys who achieved S-OFF on Desire. They have a bootloader that can change the partition sizes, and there's a post on Desire forum with the explanations of booting kernel while switching the partition sizes by passing boot parameters to the kernel.
The problem with Nexus is that unlike Desire, the bootloader will still see the original partitions. So if you change the recovery and the kernel to run with different values, overriding default partitioning (which you can do - it's explained for Desire, I remember reading a thread with explanations there), the bootloader won't play the game. Boot and Recovery will have to remain in place, otherwise the phone won't boot. And if anything goes wrong and the recovery won't boot one day - you'll need to repartition the ROM from the bootloader again and install stock to get going. Lots of work.
What you can do, and what might be better/easier to do, is just to link part of your ROM there - install system apps to /cache, for example, or such. Just remember not to wipe it then
Thanks for the heads up, Jack!
Still got a lot of reading to do on this one...
I have around 168 apps and with 'round 32mbs available ...FYI I am using CyanogenMod
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I have over 200 apps with 42+ mb free... I still wanna play with my partitions... xD
Jack_R1 said:
Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
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I did use dalvik 2sd for a while, I believe I'm using a 16gb kingston class2. While the phone was still certainly usable, there was a noticeable decrease in performance.
I've had my Evo 4G for almost a year now and I really havent felt the need to upgrade the ROM on it, which is surprising for me since I usually put a custom OS on my phones the day I buy them (coming from a windows mobile background) .
The only issue I have that I would like to rectify is app space. I keep getting the low disk space warning and telling me to remove apps.
I was wondering, if I root the device is there a way to push apps that do not have "move to SD" enabled over to the SD anyway? Facebook and Twitter for instance would be much better off on the SD since they build up huge data caches and need to be cleared all the time when on the phones memory.
Or, is there a way to re-size the phones memory allocations without doing a full re-flash if it's rooted?
Any thoughts/opinions are appreciated. Thanks!
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
pandamaja said:
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
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I tried that app a while ago and it really wasn't that big of a help. Certain apps (like Facebook and twitter) still could not be moved.
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If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
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Thanks! I will take a look at that. It may be just what I need.
If you root you can partition your sd card and use dta2sd and it will move all your apps to the extsd even ones with widgets it works great .
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Rooting your phone with a ROM that's at least 2.2 will allow for app2sd use, however, you do not have to ROOT to use app2sd. If you do not wish to ROOT your phone, You need to run at least stock version 2.2 to be able to use app2sd.
I had a HERO that ran 2.1 and app2sd did not work, then I got my EVO with 2.2 and app2sd worked fine. Neither the HERO or EVO were rooted at the time.
Also remember that some apps must stay resident to work and can not be moved to your sd. Many of the app2sd apps will show you what can and can't be moved.
Good Luck.....
Well if you’re here you’ve probably gone and bought the ZTE Blade or one of its variants (Orange San Francisco, Dell XCD35 or the Idea Blade). You’ve probably been using it for a while now and I’m pretty sure you’ve come to that annoying moment when you download an awesome new app and get that pesky notification saying “Not enough memory”. Here’s a way to fix that problem albeit temporarily for rooted and non-rooted users alike
# Non Rooted Users:
First off, if you’re Android version says 2.1, it means you’ve got a Gen1 device. It’d be best top update it to a Gen2 device yourself using a TPT, or ask your manufacturer to do it for you. Now assuming you have a Gen2 device, i.e. your Android version says 2.2, this is how you go about getting space to install more apps.
-Once you install an app, open the settings menu
-Go to the “Applications” menu and select the “Downloaded” tab
-Select any application
-Keep in mind that this works only for applications that have been granted movability by their developer
-Android 2.2 onwards has an inbuilt option that allows users to move part of the app to the SD card. You should see an option saying “Move to SD Card”. If you do not see it, or it is grayed out, that means the developer has restricted the option. This is common for some apps like widgets
-Repeat for any number of apps you want.
Note : This provides only a little breathing space and allows you to squeeze in a few more apps. The root methods are far more effective. There's also an app called APP2SD to help with this on Google Play
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# Rooted Users
The following methods are only for rooted users. To check if your phone is rooted, download the Root Checker app from Google Play. Rooted users have two methods of increasing storage space: Apps2SD+ and A2SD.
Apps2SD+ is similar to the inbuilt option that comes with Android 2.2. However, this enables rooted users to move more of the app to the SD card and also move ANY application to the SD card irrespective of the developer’s restrictions. There are two things that must be kept in mind while using this method. One, widgets do not work if moved to the SD card, so refrain from doing that. Two, the SD card is read after booting, so moving too many apps to the SD card (75+) will cause the phone to hang a lot at boot and reboot several times. This is done using an app. I recommend "DroidSail SuperApps2SD''
A2SD is the process of partitioning the SD card and using it as phone storage. This is by far the best method to increase storage space as a 1GB partition allows you to install 500+ apps, the ease of use and performance aside. This is available for most ROMs if they support an sd-ext script. Partitioning the SD card can be done using Minitool Partition Wizard or by ClockworkMod Recovery. The recommended partition size is 1GB as this is more than enough. The swap should be kept at 0MB or if you use the phone for gaming, at 32MB. Once the memory card is partitioned, the apps along with all their data can be moved to this partition. This can be done by two ways. DarkTremor A2SD scripts for most ROMs, or S2E for CyanogenMod. This is very easy to use and having done it myself, I have 450 apps and the phone’s performance isn’t the slightest bit affected.
Partitioned and still no space? See this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933144
Good Luck installing those 500 apps and showing off with them
Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!
matt4321 said:
Awesome post mate! This'll definitely help some users with space issues.
+1 from me!
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Awesome tutorial!
+1.
Already knew this but good for other who don't know! :laugh:
DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!
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DarkTremor A2SD? I have DarkTremor A2SD and a 1GB partition and I can't have more than 30/35 apps. Internal Memory is full!
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Have u run the script?
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Have u run the script?
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Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.
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Script? humm, i only installed the app and pressed the button to move the files to the sd card.
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No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first
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No. You need to flash the dta2sd script first
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The script doesn't work on my phone :X
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The script doesn't work on my phone :X
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Why not? Which rom?
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Why not? Which rom?
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Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....
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Swedish Snow, when i try to open the A2SD GUI it gives me an error "A2SD script does not run properly"....
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Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon
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Because you haven't flashed the dta2sd script. Wait. I'll link to it soon
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I installed via Clockwork recovery and I created the sd partition, maybe my partition is ext2 :x I don't know how to change to ext3!
"sdmove " and "sd watch" app this automatically detect the app which can move to sd
GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......
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GUYS THIS IF FOR Non Rooted Users DOWNLOAD "SDMOVE " AND "SD WATCH" APP THIS AUTOMATICALLY DETECT THE APP WHICH CAN MOVE TO SD AND NOTIFY ON UR SCREEN WHILE INSTALLING A NEW APP........NO NEED TO FIND WHICH APP CAN MOVE OR NOT.......
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Apps2SD by Sam Lu does the exact same thing
Also, I would appreciate it if you stopped posting as if your life is in danger with the bold red font
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I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?
vittal said:
I'm using ColdFusionX ROM on my blade, which method do you recommend me to use?
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Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD
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Apps2SD+
if you don't mind partitioning your SD, go for A2SD
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Or link2sd which works pretty well.
hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?
insurgente said:
hi there. hoping someone may still read this.
Any options for resolving low storage space issues on a Blade V without rooting?
I've moved literally app possible to the SD card (which isn't many).... Are photos not stored on the SD card by default? I've had to start uninstalling updates for system apps that I don't use
with "low storage" my Gmail doesn't sync...which obviously is f*cking annoying
I've had andoids before and rooted them, installed custom ROMs. Just I'd avoid it with this one due to my fear of screwing it up. Is rooting my only realistic option?
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Rooting and then using the solutions in the op seems to be the only plausible option.
However, you can try a cache cleaning app. Should give you 10-15MB depending on how many apps have cached data
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good app..