When are we going to get a legit update for android? - EVO 4G General

So I know that gingerbread is around the corner and it's supposed to have some tweaks to the OS, etc etc, but when will we see an update which fully optimizes android to be as efficient as it't capable of.
I made a thread a while back dealing with how fast android is moving hardware wise, with the dual cores coming out and all but from my perspective increasing the CPU power of our phones by adding more processors is a complete gimmick, at least for now. I want to see android polished like ios, enough with the glitter and gleam.
P.S I'm not mentioning Honey Comb here because that's optimized for tablets, so most cell phones won't end up seeing it I believe. I want to know what comes after gingerbread and/if it will be a legit upgrade to android, not just a few minor tweaks here and there.
For what it's worth, i'v heard very good things about Honey Comb being utilized on tablets and how polished and smooth it is. I'd like to see that on future android phones.

Gingerbread is not around the corner... its here CM7

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Gingerbread is not around the corner... its here CM7
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Nuf sed!
Also wtf is "polished like ios". Yech! Sounds like you should install MIUI it is "like ios" but you can also install ADW EX and use the iphone launcher. Yech! Sorry...ios praise sets me off.

androidcues said:
Nuf sed!
Also wtf is "polished like ios". Yech! Sounds like you should install MIUI it is "like ios" but you can also install ADW EX and use the iphone launcher. Yech! Sorry...ios praise sets me off.
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I think he is saying that ios looks good, and he is not wrong. I think android is superior in every other facet however, and yes we can imitate ios as shown by miui.
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The update you are looking for is ice cream sandwich. It will combine gingerbread with honeycomb. It will finally bring hardware acceleration and an updated ui.
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Nuf sed!
Also wtf is "polished like ios". Yech! Sounds like you should install MIUI it is "like ios" but you can also install ADW EX and use the iphone launcher. Yech! Sorry...ios praise sets me off.
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Whats a Yech...lol

DarkManX4lf said:
Whats a Yech...lol
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Its the sound you make when you throw up in your mouth.
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Its the sound you make when you throw up in your mouth.
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Hmmm, sounds tasty like a smorgasbord filled with frozen yogurt, crunchy honeycomb, and slow melting ice cream.
I'm a sick twisted freak and I know it lol

I want a polished sense rom updated to 2.3. How sick would that be. No bugs, no 4g bugs, great wifi drivers and the OS smooth as butter.
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androidcues said:
Nuf sed!
Also wtf is "polished like ios". Yech! Sounds like you should install MIUI it is "like ios" but you can also install ADW EX and use the iphone launcher. Yech! Sorry...ios praise sets me off.
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I am using Miui and I love it. I also us go launcher and launcher pro, both of which are phenomenal.
I would choose android any day over anything apple, that's a given for me. However, even the biggest android fans have to admit that our OS is not nearly as polished as ios or even WP7. I'm not talking about the looks of the OS or even the "smoothness". I'm talking about optimizing the system so that it utilizes it's processor(s) and GPU to their full extent, rather than just upping the amp and hoping that fixes everything...
I think Froyo was a big step up for us, we just need more. Hopefully as android matures, future updates will optimize android further.

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Samsung Flavor

Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!
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Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!
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Hang tight. Good things are right around the corner.
Use launcher pro for the time being.
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The "theme" is as light as it could be for a complete overhaul. You need to look elsewhere for the reasons why your phone is choppy, it's certainly not TW overall (maybe the widgets, some of them are extremely laggy).
Do the lag fix. World of difference
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Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi
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From Eugene_373:
Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi
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+1.
@ OP: Eugene's ROM is probably the fastest and most stable out right now. Besides, why wouldn't you have just downloaded ADW by now? Isn't that the stock Launcher on all CM ROMS now-a-days??? I would suggest following some devs on twitter too, you'll see that things are coming around nicely.
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Yea, I couldn't stand it either. Way too colorful for my tastes.
Just remove all the widgets from your home screens. Instant fix. At least it was for me.
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http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
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Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...
androidmonkey said:
Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...
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Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued
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Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued
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Yea, I dont get the hate....
The only thing that is really overly slow, is the cold boot-up process (media scanning, especially). Other than that, I find TouchWiz to be my favorite of all Android skins. There is a noticeable lag when launching an app for the first time (two seconds or so), but I'm willing to deal with that, even if there is room for improvement.
Not having some of the TouchWiz customizations is what keeps me from jumping to another Android phone. I couldn't live without these iPhone-like Calendar and Clock apps.
But you think TouchWiz is bad? Christ, go try scrolling around the home screens of the Droid X or the EVO. Those phones feel so antiquated, to me. Though, I'd like to see if 2.2 makes them usable...
In other news: GPS and Compass are still completely broken, with no word from Samsung.
not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.
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not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.
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Really? I thought that had more to do with the I/O performance. Stock Android is going to be snappier for sure but there is no reason why the Vibrant can't handle TouchWiz, which a good portion of is just different colors. My eyes are bleeding after looking at stock Android on the Vibrant. I know some prefer it but I can't tell you how many people think TW is just the "iPhone launcher"
simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...
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simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...
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That's not what I was saying at all, and I won't. Simply put.
I'm sure most people wouldn't mind it if it wasn't so damn colorful and a blatant copy of iOS. Besides the vibrant already looks very similar to an iPhone no need in making it look like you are using a knockoff.
To be fair TW has some very nice additions but at a price of ugly.
Wow, I thought having a verity would be nice... If you up tight, please don't use anything I post.. There is no point in being high and mighty...
Some don't like tw, some do... Some like plain jane.. I like both so I don't care, but have source we can work from? Well, we'll never have tw source so be grateful anyone is working on stuff from source.

thoughts/excitment about ICS?

Just wondering what you fellow G2/DZ owners think about the upcoming android release "Ice cream sandwich". what features or changes are you excited about? do you reckon cyanogen team will migrate to it for our devices? and can our devices even effeciently run it?
i for one am always excited about any improvements to android, seeing it come so far has been incredible and i hope it continues to expand and prosper while still maintaining the performance and complexity weve come to adore as modders/hax0rs.
please share
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I'm assuming you've seen the engadget video of the leaked software? I know it's just a visual eyecandy thing but I'm actually looking forward to the screen rotation animations, for one. The lockscreen looks like it is similar to a MIUI circle lockscreen where you can unlock to different app shortcuts. Just looking forward to something new in general I guess, heh. If it was running on a Nexus S, I'm 100% it will work just fine for us, too.
i think that engadget video cant be faker, cmon a lucky guy from ebay?? hahaha yeah right reminds me of the iphone prototypes found in a bar a while ago
i think its just a very nice cooked ROM, also compare it to the leaked pictures and it doesnt look the same
about ICS taken from cyanogen i think it is gonna be ported by the team as theyve been doing with every previous version of android, so expect CM8! also i think were not gonna have any problems running it on our G2s since AOSP are not that heavy and i think ICS is not gonna be that heavy either, at least not like a sense ROM
As stated above. I'm mainly looking forward to rotation animation and speed increases.
As far as I'm concerned each new stock version has had a similar speed to the previous modded version. So I'm not expecting much in the way of speed..... yet.
Here's hoping there's plenty new toys.
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Visual improvements are welcome, but I'm looking forward to the under the hood improvements. And hopefully being able to run honeycomb apps.
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Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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Will it be released ota for desire z devices.
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Doubt it. On my 5th android handset from 3 manufacturers and resigned to the fact that I need custom roms to get the latest/fastest software.
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Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.
I'm not exactly blown out of the water by it. It looks like they took some of the Honeycomb design language and ported it over as a skin ontop of Gingerbread. I really hope that its more than that, but we'll have to see. 2.2 to 2.3 was a lot of polish and cleaning up with some new UI elements, so I hope 4.0 is a big leap.
I hope that we see performance gains, new features, and more stability/usability. I liked what they did in Honeycomb from a UI and smoothness PoV, but I'm not sure how that will translate to the smaller screen. The big test will be how it performs and looks on the next Nexus device, as that is the benchmark or platform example of what they want it to look like. I don't think the vision of ICS is complete when its running on a Nexus S.
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Frankly, it looks horrendous - especially from a user experience point of view. As a longtime fan of Android, it boggles my mind that the software is so half-baked.
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I disagree, but I don't think anybody can judge until we officially see them demonstrate it.
If that leak was real, it's basically some honeycomb elements and a bluish neon theme. Not really a huge stretch from what we have currently. And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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And face it, Android still isn't as user friendly as it could be. ICS needs to be huge if they want to stay ahead of WP7 and compete with iOS.
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I agree with that. They really need to knock it out of the park. Not necessarily with features (they already have a ton of features) but with user experience and consistency/reliability. iOS and WP7 knock it out of the park on user experience whether you care to admit it or not. If Android can smooth out a lot of the rough edges and issues I'm sure it'll give a huge boost to sales.
The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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The problem is that high end Androids still lag. Now I'm willing to place a lot of blame on oems, but Android is still too power and resource hungry. That NEEDS to be addressed here.
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Funny...my g2 lasts twice as long on battery as my lender iphone 4, though I'm all for power and battery improvements who knows what android can achieve.
As for top end androids lagging, I'm assuming your referring to stock devices. In which bloatware can be blamed for 99% of that lag. For a one year old device my g2 blows every one of my friends devices out of the water, especially when everyone is out somewhere and we need to 'google' something, my wp7 friends never find the right info, and the iphone guys/gurls usually never get to the search fast enough lol. THIS is what I believe sets us apart, the speed in which I can fire a google search, check google maps, etc leaves all my non google friends gawking at how easy my droid is.
I'm hoping for a little bit of user experience improvement, but mostly if they can squeeze out even more performance and power saving, it'll truly set us apart from the competition.
Edit: IMO
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Iphone5 comes out
G-Infinity is a quadcore with qwerty and invisibility cloaking option, (just in case) also has a mini lightsaber incase you know, ..
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To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.
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To be honest, I don't like the way Android development is going. I mean, phones keep getting more and more powerful, we have dual-core CPUs and lots of RAM, but the OS doesn't really feel faster and the user experience is more or less the same.
What I'd like to see in ICS is a smoother feeling, especially faster launching apps and making better use of the hardware (the second one is difficult with all the diferent phones out there).
Also, some more UI customization would be welcome. For example, changing the battery icon (or the whole status bar icon set) without root or cooking a custom rom, or making my own tabs in the app drawer.
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I also agree, the way I see it the more powerful they get the more battery hungry they will be, though I could be wrong. Cm7 runs pretty damn smooth at 800mhz stock speed so I mean it is possible to optimize the os for a single core. But I mean looking back from donut to ginger, the os does feel not only bigger but also runs smoother in my opinion. But again it could be because the hardware has improved so much as well.
Given the fact the iphone 4s specs were just announced, and don't really wow anyone, I'm hoping oct 11th and ICS blow everything out of the water. Google is most definetly capable of showing some innovation, so my fingers are crossed that ICS is everything we want! Would also prove perfect timing to make even more gain in the mobile os department. They also need to keep up the sick advertising on tv, lord knows the commercials make my iphail pals jealous!
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i'm with the people saying that they hope ICS brings with it better performance and nicer User Experience. rooting really barely helps. don't get me wrong its fun having all these choices and flashing roms and whatnot. but none of them really make the phone work like it should. i still have lag. i still have crashes. full wipes do nothing. yea it runs AMAZING for a day. maybe a week on a really good rom. and then things start lagging. it's getting harder and harder to defend. "no you don't get it, with android you get choice and iphone sucks" ... as my friend's iphone works perfectly pretty much 100% of the time. blah. come on ICS. wow me. please!

What are you looking forward to?

Ok I saw ics like most and im somewhat excited by the possibility of this update on the sgs2.
Now rather than focussing on ports, dev issues, etc. How about we talk about what were looking forward to the most?
Personally I've always found the ui of android lacking compared to its piers like iOS and WP7. My personal interest is in the new look, im running the excellent theme by vertimus and its made using the phone more enjoyable (odd I know) I think options like folders on the homescreens, and even the handling of the running apps makes the ui seem far more user friendly.
my second point I like is the facial unlock, i've never liked unlocking phone via codes or patterns, one people can learn them, and second there labourius
So i'll ask once DO NOT START RANTING ABOUT THE PORT, DEMANDING, ETC. JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.
moderators if you think this is a bad post feel free to shut it down, and ill hold tongue re ics til a later time, id also suggest if some derails this topic u ban them, as a warning..
So what you looking forward to?
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i demand to have a beta build to play with and i want it NOW haha i wanted to be a troll oh yeah by the way when is the release going to be
Just messing...anyways what i am looking forward to the most from ICS. well firstly the ultra smooth fujutweaks that make it extra crisp and smooth when scrolling through the homescreens. also the new layout and animations. to be honest mate although GB is good im just looking forward to the whole OS and i am wondering what the devs of gaming applications and other apps can do with the new beast once it comes out
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i demand to have a beta build to play with and i want it NOW haha i wanted to be a troll oh yeah by the way when is the release going to be
Just messing...anyways what i am looking forward to the most from ICS. well firstly the ultra smooth fujutweaks that make it extra crisp and smooth when scrolling through the homescreens. also the new layout and animations. to be honest mate although GB is good im just looking forward to the whole OS and i am wondering what the devs of gaming applications and other apps can do with the new beast once it comes out
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+1
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And as a side note.. Its a shame all the keyboard heroes couldn't shut their mouths n there by ruining your thread
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Ban the Matriak31, BAN HIM!!!
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Yeah I think ICS will bring Android up to the same bar as it's piers, i'm also interested to see if the camera will be instantanious as the Nexus, this will be very useful to myself.
Also you guys have any views on the colour swap google have introduced, i mean green for how long now? and were switching to a colour which i'd call cyan... cyanogen?
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Ban the Matriak31, BAN HIM!!!
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Yeah I think ICS will bring Android up to the same bar as it's piers, i'm also interested to see if the camera will be instantanious as the Nexus, this will be very useful to myself.
Also you guys have any views on the colour swap google have introduced, i mean green for how long now? and were switching to a colour which i'd call cyan... cyanogen?
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i wouldn't mind the colour change to be honest..Reminds me of Tron
I'm looking forward to the new awesome smoothness its reported to have . Hopefully force closes and lag will be a thing of the past come ics. and do u think Samsung will launch a new version of tw for the update? Or just release ics and add in the new features wit tw4 :L
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I think iOS has a good interface for a toy with that app drawer and nothing more where you don't even have widgets and you have to go to settings to enable or disable wifi, etc.
Now its about android or wp7 and yes... a real improvement for the intarface is wellcome.
To be honest, I am more than satisfied with my sgs 2 right now. However I will say I do look forward to hardware acceleration. I might not see the difference, but its still appreciated. Also maybe some system improvements would be nice so android would be more efficient at handling resources.
Quite a lot actually...
The camera interface and multitude of extra features that ICS has on offer.
Not much of TW. I mean TW has got better, but is still not in Sense's league (which actualy is pretty big resource hog, the reason why htc phones have never had good battery life). I wouldn't extra software tweaks and additional apps (bloatware..), but keep it non obtrusive.
Keep it as close to stock in terms of visual overlay. Stock ICS does look amazing.
Better battery management, no android os bug.
Better audio quality in video recording.
Better optimised browser and tabbed browsing. All of us do use third party browsers but an excellent stock browser wont hurt. Not everyone is a nerd and we do expect some things to be good , out of the box.
Steer clear of trying to copy ios.. (Sammy you know what I am talking about).
Loads of expectations but well that is just me.
I'm excited about the new multitasking, launcher, and redesigned UI and Widgets.
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I'm excited about the new multitasking, launcher, and redesigned UI and Widgets.
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Basically we were left out when honeycomb came out. They got the deal and we didn't so this is the update that brings us in the same league.
I am looking forward to Linux kernel 3. Efficiency Improvements. Better games with joystick support. Word like spell check throughout UI. Even smoother graphics. Kick ass mobile platform besting multi tasking. Data usage control like a BOSS.
Am waiting to see what Samsung does to ICS. I feel with touchwiz 4 they did an awesome job.
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Honestly, this phone is close to perfect, as was my Android-running HD2 before it, but anything that improves battery life is particularly appreciated on the sgs2... I know its the old conundrum of battery tech not improving at a time of touchscreen frenzy, but a phone is a phone - something you occasionally need to depend on - and 24 hours does not cut it.
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It should be as battery resourceful as an iphone. xD
I'm looking forward to what the manufacturers are going to do...
What is HTC going to do with sense, what about Touchwiz, Motoblur etc etc?
The ICS UI/launcher looks great and my question is: Does it it need further modification by those companies?
I'm looking forward to rubbing my iphone using friends noses in the dirt!
Nah, just the smoothness and overall optimized speed and look of the ui. Not too big a fan of touchwiz ui though! We'll see.....
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I'm looking forward to what the manufacturers are going to do...
What is HTC going to do with sense, what about Touchwiz, Motoblur etc etc?
The ICS UI/launcher looks great and my question is: Does it it need further modification by those companies?
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It's not about looking great, it's about being different. We ain't no ios or wp7.
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It seems a lot of users are unaware that touchwiz is hardware accelerated, including the stock browser. I underclock my sgs2 to 500mhz and its just as smooth and slick as default 1200mhz, no difference what so ever. If you use other launchers, you will notice the difference big time. Only really need the extra power for graphically demanding games like Shadowgun and Blood and Glory, and Flash player.
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It seems a lot of users are unaware that touchwiz is hardware accelerated, including the stock browser. I underclock my sgs2 to 500mhz and its just as smooth and slick as default 1200mhz, no difference what so ever. If you use other launchers, you will notice the difference big time. Only really need the extra power for graphically demanding games like Shadowgun and Blood and Glory, and Flash player.
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The extra power for graphically demanding games isn't coming in the form of ICS. For that we need an improved GPU which unfortunately won't be until the sgs3 is released. That being said, try Siyah kernel, you can overclock the GPU and have no graphical issues.
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I'm hoping ICS reduces OS fragmentation. Sadly though, I fear it will only lead to more of it.
Improved battery management. Really, I don't ask for much.

MIUI 4: Would you use it?

The MIUI patchrom was updated today to support the MIUI 4 (ICS) base. According to the README in the MiCode repo it looks like we meet the prerequisites to use the patchrom. I've used MIUI on my handset before so I wouldn't deny it on my tablet to say the least. The features are great and there is no end to customization of the ROM. The launcher isn't optimized for tablets but I guess Trebuchet or the stock ICS launcher is still usable. Hopefully a dev will hook us up (or if it doesn't require building the whole OS maybe even I can do it).
So I guess the question is: Would you use MIUI on your Iconia?
Hells yes
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as long as a tablet launcher works, i would try it. i didn't spend all this money on a tablet for it to be a gigantic phone.
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
FloatingFatMan said:
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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My thoughts exactly. If I wanted an iPad, I would buy an iPad.
nifterific said:
as long as a tablet launcher works, i would try it. i didn't spend all this money on a tablet for it to be a gigantic phone.
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LMAO, indeed.
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In a heartbeat.. bring it on pls.
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No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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I couldn't disagree more. Miui is one of the most customizable roms available, ios is built to allow almost no customization.
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Yea I agree it may share "some ios similarities" but all in all it is a very customizable android Rom I've used miui on my inc and inspire plus my old nook but took it off my nook after 24 hrs of use because sizing was terrible and it was a huge phone. But if a dev manages to create a miui masterpiece as well as the devs over at miuiandroid/miui.us bring it on!
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No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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My thoughts exactly. If I wanted an iPad, I would buy an iPad.
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If you think the UI is all that is different (or at the very least, all that MIUI has to offer), you've probably never used MIUI. Or at least not long enough to discover what it has to offer.
Let's not forget it's still Android at heart. And as far as Android goes, the level of customization is far beyond any other offering. You can turn off whatever you don't like theme-wise and use whatever launcher you're currently enjoying. If you're going to judge it on UI alone, then you're missing out on a whole lot.
EDIT: Of course, I have no idea how well it even works on tablets. I don't know if the MIUI team really considered the tablet aspects of ICS when making version 4. But like I said, any suitable tablet launcher should still work perfectly fine.
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I couldn't disagree more. Miui is one of the most customizable roms available, ios is built to allow almost no customization.
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While MIUI does allow for you to tweak the way icons and the lockscreen look, the base functionality and user experience are heavily influenced by iOS. A fresh install of MIUI looks strikingly like an iOS device, with the addition of a clock widget.
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Let's not forget it's still Android at heart. And as far as Android goes, the level of customization is far beyond any other offering. You can turn off whatever you don't like theme-wise and use whatever launcher you're currently enjoying. If you're going to judge it on UI alone, then you're missing out on a whole lot.
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But if I was to turn off all of the MIUI UI options and use a different launcher, why would I want to use MIUI at all? Why not use a stripped down version of a stock rom?
Personally, I didn't see the appeal of MIUI. Sure I could download a ton of themes but they never were well designed. I wind up making my own themes anyway, so I would rather have a ROM that was as lean as possible and theme it as I need. If you like MIUI, juice by you.. but I've tried it and it wasn't for me.
Psichi said:
If you like MIUI, juice by you.. but I've tried it and it wasn't for me.
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My favorite thing about android, if you don't like it you can change it, it has something for everyone.
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i would give it a go, i might look like IOS until you start applying themes.
MiUI = iOS wanabee ????
I think some people does not use or never use MiUI....
but anyway...
MiUI on tablet I am not sure that will be that good... Since they are more PHONE DEVICE oriented...
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Acer Liquid Metal running 2.3.9 MiUI perfectly, nothing iOS like on it...
FloatingFatMan said:
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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bfranklin1986 said:
I couldn't disagree more. Miui is one of the most customizable roms available, ios is built to allow almost no customization.
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I think what FloatingFatMan meant was that MIUI feels like it is trying to mimic iOS. I would have to agree with FloatingFatMan on this point...it feels too much like an iPhone interface.
tkirton said:
I think what FloatingFatMan meant was that MIUI feels like it is trying to mimic iOS. I would have to agree with FloatingFatMan on this point...it feels too much like an iPhone interface.
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Please could you show me how it's iPhone interface like ?
because I don't see the iPhone feeling on my MiUI.....
-> and by the way iPhone copied the Samsung interface as well....
if it's just about square icons on a grid and a ribbon on the lower part A lot of phone interface so are iPhone(samsung) like...
Just to be clear I am not an iPhone hater, I just bored about people who think iPhone (Apple) is a revolution and are the one create all.... nope... they just improve, or copy and got a strong marketing behind that's it.
So if I take my MiUI interface I got
- Widget (iPhone does not have that)
- A neat slide swipe animation between each screen (with effect or not)
- A way to can change really everything inside (wallpaper, starting animation, lockscreen, etc...)
- A music player directly accessible from the lockscreen (double tap on the time)
- no slide to unlock from left to right (but can be installed via a theme named iPhone...)
- etc..
well I got more than expected on my stuttering Liquid Metal... miUI give it a new life, and memory freedom.
so let me know how it's same I will be pleased to see.
sanaell said:
Please could you show me how it's iPhone interface like ?
because I don't see the iPhone feeling on my MiUI.....
-> and by the way iPhone copied the Samsung interface as well....
if it's just about square icons on a grid and a ribbon on the lower part A lot of phone interface so are iPhone(samsung) like...
Just to be clear I am not an iPhone hater, I just bored about people who think iPhone (Apple) is a revolution and are the one create all.... nope... they just improve, or copy and got a strong marketing behind that's it.
So if I take my MiUI interface I got
- Widget (iPhone does not have that)
- A neat slide swipe animation between each screen (with effect or not)
- A way to can change really everything inside (wallpaper, starting animation, lockscreen, etc...)
- A music player directly accessible from the lockscreen (double tap on the time)
- no slide to unlock from left to right (but can be installed via a theme named iPhone...)
- etc..
well I got more than expected on my stuttering Liquid Metal... miUI give it a new life, and memory freedom.
so let me know how it's same I will be pleased to see.
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To me, the overall layout just reminds me of iOS, and I'm simply not a fan of that style. I'm not saying it is bad, just not my cup of tea. I understand it is still Android underneath it (AOSP) and it is customizable, but I guess the way the launcher is laid out just has the feel of iOS, at least to me.
But everyone has their preferences.
FloatingFatMan said:
No. I want to use Android, not an iOS wannabe.
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How is miui an ios wannabe? You realize you can change the theme to whatever you want, right?
I use miui on my phone and I love it. I'd really like to see miui on the A500.
Edit: didn't read the posts above me, I agree
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iOS and MIUI are not same.
maybe a very old version of miui theme was with the same background (wow that makes all the feeling... iBackground?)
Similarities or Same ?
Similarities... Oh my god yes there is ... but since Apple didn't created the "User Interface" of phones neither "Icons" we cannot compare MiUI with iOS... they got idea from something else before as well.
stop comparing all against iOS or iPhone... that will be better.
1) it's not iOSlike
2) it's android
3) we can change everything we want in Miui... and make it looks like iPhone if we want just by applying a theme... but the default theme is not iPhone like at all.. really not at all..
Please people, use the things before making statement...

pure ICS on galaxy s3?

mod edit: i don't like the touch wiz UI
Lol at least give it a chance before making such a claim. Use it when it comes out then we can say if it is shyte... There are other launchers like apex and etc..
ok good point, i like the concepts though like if you are messaging then put to your ear and it calls, but im talking about the pure visual aspect of it, the icons look like they come from a 2001 nokia colour phone
Icons are always customisable though with root access. I always wonder why people complain about a UI or skin when it can always be changed or removed.
Ive never used any of the previous versions of touchwiz for more than a few minutes at a time on friends' phones but have always preferred it over the other mfr UIs ive tried. Its actually one of the things im looking forward to with this.
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pure aosp will take atleast a month or 2, team hacksung have not yet received enough donations for getting the mobile yet.
and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.
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and guys the term "touchwiz" not only mentions the launcher but mentions the whole load of softwares customized by samsung like, fm radio, music player,camera app etc etc.
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Indeed.
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Wow wait.. so you've already used the new Touch Wiz? You must have to make a claim like that..
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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos
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why would I use it? its all over the web the videos
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Not the entire UI.. little clips here and there but the fact is NONE of us have it and NONE of us have actually used the new Touchwiz UI. Its not just an icon pack
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i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.
I always use Go Launcher but will run with TW on the S3 to see how I like
What's wrong with TouchWiz, I would rank it second after TimeScape of Sony (dont like HTC Sense)
And I would give TouchWiz 4.0 the crown
vanilla rocks!
i got a warning for swearing, sorry for swearing
Pure ICS is definitely coming to the S3. Some developers have already said it.
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i don't want AOSP on it. It's damn boring. NO more vanilla for me. And the Nexus program is an epic fail, NOT the first to get updates.
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Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.
Look aosp is cool, but i am that type of human that i will hardly live with only one type of ui for more than two months, first there are themes and than its big jump (like tw->cm9 or cm9->MIUI....)....so i expect i will try to stick with stock as long as possible and than go out and try some modifications
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Im going to change just one thing , I square icons at the bottom to stock ics, and that's it. Love the drop down toggles. And some of the touchwize apps I'll just not use.
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Uh, yes, the Nexus lines ARE the first to get updates... Well, the GSM variants anyway. Don't whine about having a Nexus and not getting updates fast when you're on a stupid CDMA network with their closed source radio driver crap.
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I couldn't agree more to this!!!
No more carrier delays for me... and I really look forward to PURE AOSP! The closest I ever got to that was with CM 7 resp. CM 9 on my S2 and Nook tablets... and I liked it a lot!
Certainly better than st*pid HTC Sense..!
Can't wait for next week to arrive!!!!!!
why would you use a feature`less software like stock ics? i had galaxy nexus and it was boring ... tw may have bloat but it has nice features ... if you want stock buy google phone if you want sense buy htc ... simple...
plus if you look in the app drawer is ics stock like
It's a matter of preference. look at the stock ICS E-mail, Contacts and messaging apps. a combination of a Beautiful, modern design with the maximum possible functionality. It just looks, feels and works so well, exactly how a modern UI should. Google really hit the ball out of the park with holo.
Now look at the TW ones - they're basically the same FroYo ones used in the previous galaxies - they don't have that stremlined, modern look of stock ICS. They look dated and ancient and do not feel like ICS at all. The messaging app especially. Black background with grey borders and ugly buttons - and yellow and cyan chat bubbles.. seriously samsung?
having said that, TW does have a very, very good launcher - very smooth and very flexible - i have no issues with that. The TW UX launcher is even better in that regard. it's the core apps that piss me off because they look ugly and dated.

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