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Does your screen wobble when the keyboard is out?

I'm that my screen seems loose when my keyboard is out. I'm wondering if this is just how sliders are, since this is the first slider phone i've owned. I've had the phone for 2 days. If its a manufacturing defect, I want to get it exchanged.
I went to the sprint store to check the display models, none of them had any screen wobble. But the store manager's phone did have a screen that wobbled when slid out, so he refused to exchange mine. He claims that my keyboard has been used more than the store demo models. I think thats a load of bs...
Is it normal for the screen to wobble when the keyboard is out? I'm talking about an audible rattle when i tilt my phone toward me about 1 inch...

Yes, mine does that too.

no rattle here

Yeah. Mine has that features too but I would assume this is just something having to do with the application of the slider, but I don't think it is worth worrying about. But of course I am no expert...
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I don't understand wobble. Side to side? Or against the spring?
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a454nova said:
I don't understand wobble. Side to side? Or against the spring?
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If you're holding your phone like you would use it normally. And then tilt the screen toward you about 1 inch. My screen will move and make a noise. If i tilt it back, it moves back and makes a noise. =/

Yes, mine has developed a wobble as well. When holding the keyboard and moving the phone up and down vertically, I can feel the screen wobbles.
Also, when keyboard is closed, various parts of the touchscreen feels loose. Especially noticeable in landscape - i.e. when playing angry birds. when I tap on screen, the screen has depresses / has some play.
I don't think my phone had the wobble on day 1, so this is something that developed. Since it's only been 3 days, I'll be looking into getting it replaced.

Its the nature of the beast. It will also loosen up through time too. Don't want to worry about that? Get a candybar or pda style phone with no moving parts.

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Its the nature of the beast. It will also loosen up through time too. Don't want to worry about that? Get a candybar or pda style phone with no moving parts.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself.

No problems here my slider is rock solid which is awesome considering im coming from a palm pre with super oreo.

Mostly i'm just concerned that if the slider has loosened soo much in 2 days of very light use, how will it last 2 years?
Has anyone ever had a case of a slider phone breaking in half? lol
or becoming so loose that its unusable?

icantdrawanime said:
Mostly i'm just concerned that if the slider has loosened soo much in 2 days of very light use, how will it last 2 years?
Has anyone ever had a case of a slider phone breaking in half? lol
or becoming so loose that its unusable?
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This is my fourth slider phone. They always loosen up a bit, but the device will be fine. If you really, REALLY can't live with it, bring it in for a new one every once in a while... that's what insurance is for. Or take it apart and tighten it up yourself. I did that with my Mogul and it wasn't too hard.
P.S. The poll is flawed. The answer is either yes or no.

icantdrawanime said:
Has anyone ever had a case of a slider phone breaking in half? lol
or becoming so loose that its unusable?
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The worst case I've heard of or seen personally was with the Pre. Mine had a slight wiggle that I could live with, but I heard of some twisting so far that the screen was at a 90 degree angle to the keypad. If you google "Palm Pre Oreo" you'll see some examples. Here's one I found in a quick search.
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My Epic has a slight wobble that I was worried about (especially after coming from the Pre)...but if that many other people are experiencing the same thing I'm going to assume that it's normal.

A case helps in my opinion to keep the sliding mechanism in place. Mine doesn't wobble as much as a nude epic.
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bigray327 said:
If you really, REALLY can't live with it, bring it in for a new one every once in a while... that's what insurance is for. Or take it apart and tighten it up yourself. I did that with my Mogul and it wasn't too hard.
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Bring it in, DON'T take it apart yourself. From what the tech bulletins have mentioned, a special jig is required to put the phone back together. Let the Sprint techs handle it and let them take the risk.

me and my wife both got epics the same day, hers wobbles and mine doesn't and believe me it wobbled from day one, she don't even use the keyboard, I just noticed it when I slid it out to help set her phone up for her, I figured maybe mine doesn't do it because I hae a case but mine was rock solid and I've used the keyboard a lot more than her. I think maybe hers gets returned within the 30 days.

Wobbly screens are not normal. Lol Mine is rock solid. But hey, maybe mine is abnormal?

Wow I just tested my wobble vs my girlfriends epic and hers is rock solid. I'm getting an exchange.
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My Epic is rock solid. Doesn't budge unless I actually force it with my hand.. and even then it doesn't "make a noise."

Went to a sprint store today to return a case, and checked out the epics they had on display. Mine has a very slight amount of wiggle, and showed it to tech there. The tech and i went over the 4 they had on display, all of them had a little bit of wiggle, with one not having much at all. He said all sliders will have a little bit, but if it turns into a lot you have a year to exchange, since the phone has a 1 year warranty. If they get a lot of complaints, they turn it into samsung as a "known issue" but than its up to samsung to issue a fix or say that its normal. This is coming from a tech at Sprint Premiere repair center.
But honestly, almost every slider phone or device ive had, has a little bit of wiggle when its open. I just bought a Tivo Slide remote control, and when you open that it wiggles in the exact same way the epic does. It has the same spring loaded action to it as well. My droids (i had 3 of them) all had it too.
I just think its the nature of the sliders. Obviously if its abnormally loose you should exchange, but if it just wiggles a little bit, chances are exchanging it will be diffucult depending on the tech you talk to, and also, the new phone isnt guaranteed to wiggle any less.
Just my .2 cents i suppose

Case or no case?

What do you all prefer?
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The silicone skins stretch out over time, are hard to get out of your pocket, but keep the phone from sliding around on slick surfaces like a car's dash.
The "flexible" (soft/hard silicone) case that VZW makes is what I have used. Feels nice, like the black/red look.
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Right now I haven't had a case on it, due to needing to pull the battery (for various ROM flashing), and it doesn't fit with the case in my dock at work. Taking the VZW case off can be a pain to do if it's done a lot, so right now I'm case-less.

otterbox commuter case

Black silicone case from vw. Keeps safe from drops, evens out back so cam lens is protected and keeps screen protected when laying face down.

No case. I kept trying to get use to it and couldn't. I've given up and just resolve to being extremely careful.

I used to use a hard clear case, but then a month ago I took it off and haven't looked back xD Haha, the most common question I get about my phone is: "Didn't you used to have a case?"
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gmichaelow said:
I used to use a hard clear case, but then a month ago I took it off and haven't looked back xD Haha, the most common question I get about my phone is: "Didn't you used to have a case?"
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I got that too when mine came off...I didn't know people paid that much attention, but since my phone is always out, maybe it wasn't that hard after all?

Nekid.....

I love my speck case.
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Seidio Rugged... You would be crazy to do my job without a case.
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I use the hard clear case from VZW, but I think it looks/feels so much better without the case... But I wanna protect it lol.
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Blah12543 said:
I use the hard clear case from VZW, but I think it looks/feels so much better without the case... But I wanna protect it lol.
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I have 2 of those cases, red n black, they work great. I use my cases for work as I'm outside all the time...i take it off almost immediately after work though
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I have the silicon vzw case but always seem to be taking it out of the case when I'm stationary (sitting down). I just love the feel of it without the case but it PAYS TO KEEP IT ON. I've dropped it a few times, with the case on (thank jeebus), and it just bounces around with little to no case damage. One time it actually bounced back up about two feet and I caught it so I'm inbetween I guess
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No case for me..naked 100% of the time!
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I use an Otterbox Defender case when out and about. We get naked when home though.

Only screen protector sold by vz.. i luvit

patsfan1130 said:
No case for me..naked 100% of the time!
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Same here, I had an Invisible Shield, but it got all dented/gashed up thanks to my keys. (Yes I keep my Dinc with my keys ) And I had a hard case from day one but it doesn't stay on anymore because of how many times I had to take it off.
I also got a new 64GB iPod touch for christmas and got a cheap case that partially blocked the audio jack, so I never used the case. Without a screen protector, the glass holds up pretty well. As for the chrome back, well, thats a different story

I have an otterbox defender, seidio innocase active, sedio innocase surface and one of the snap on cases from VZW... but they sit nicely in my desk. I drop the phone all the time and don't have a single scratch on the screen, a few small nicks on the outside. It is too sexy to keep in a case.

I actually just took the case off my phone today and it's soo much smaller and the vibration feels odd.. I prefer the case over no case its just nicer feel for me.
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I got to have a case for my phone. To think of all the times its saved my Dinc.
I drop it getting out the car a bunch. I got the hard silicone case from Verizon.

Anyone else still have their launch day evo?

Title says it all. I still have mine, and haven't run into any issues or defects with it. It seems like most folks have had to get theirs replaced at some point. Did I just get lucky?
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Nah, I've got my original one too. I'm a grown adult and take care of my things.
I would say a lot of people do too. People won't complain when things are going well, ya know? How often do you see a thread titled "Everything is great, no problems here"

Same here. No probs except for power button crack that u can barely notice
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I still have my launch day Evo as well but I am having issues with my power button. Might need to go into Sprint and see if they can repair.

Im on number 3...

I still have mine launch day Phone with MIUI rom, phone looks great and feels great.

clamknuckle said:
Nah, I've got my original one too. I'm a grown adult and take care of my things.
I would say a lot of people do too. People won't complain when things are going well, ya know? How often do you see a thread titled "Everything is great, no problems here"
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excellent point - didn't think of it that way.

something Happened to my launch day Evo...idk what, can't remember that is, I've had it replaced...then I broke 2 Evo screens....so I think I'm on #4....but this is the first phone (besides the touch pro) that I've had replaced so much, I usually keep my phones in perfect condition...but the Evo just kept fallin out my hands....

Still got mine, no problems. 'Cept the lack of 4G makes me sad.

rockstatus90 said:
something Happened to my launch day Evo...idk what, can't remember that is, I've had it replaced...then I broke 2 Evo screens....so I think I'm on #4....but this is the first phone (besides the touch pro) that I've had replaced so much, I usually keep my phones in perfect condition...but the Evo just kept fallin out my hands....
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friends dont let friends drive evos drunk

Dan330 said:
friends dont let friends drive evos drunk
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lol nice.
Second evo here... first one stopped sending text messages.. :O (unrooted... )

Launch day here too.
Running Miui and it feels new!

I still got mine from 1 week after launch day. It has power button and volume button cracks, and it has been dropped several times by myself and my 2 y/o. One time it fell, it was inside the leather case I carry it in but both upper corners remain exposed in my case. Of course, it landed right on one of the two exposed corners (on a cement floor), and broke one of the clips that hold the phone together. So now, my Evo looks like this:
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I put a quarter in there so you can see how much of a gap there is, but I did pry it open a bit for a more dramatic effect. lol Until it stops working perfectly, I'm riding with this phone until it's dead or I get something better.

I had to get my original Evo replaced after around two months.
There was a small horizontal area on the screen that would not produce any touch actions, so it made it difficult to do some activities (there was an important button within the SMS app I used and upon tapping on the button, there would be no executed action). Dragging down the notification bar simply skipped over the dead spot. Dotty also proved the same results.
This was my first problem ever with a phone and I don't see it as being user error. However, my replacement has been great (knock on wood).

still have mine !

My screen started lifting about a month after I had it, so it had to be replaced. I've had the replacement ever since though.

I still have my Launch day EVO. Zero problems. Just a few light marks on the edges because of a stupid cheap protective case.

2nd evo here, got my I/o evo in may few months later no more keys now on 004 hardware

On my 2nd..My screen started lifting about a month after I had it, so it had to be replaced.

Rock Solid Since Lauch Day
Bought mine at 9am launch day. Still perfect. Crack on powerbutton. Screen protector immediately and seidio innocase 360 with holster from day 1. Best Phone I ever owned. Can't wait to see what my next upgrade will do.

Here comes the famous drop test for sgs3

not looking good, order your cases asap
edit: keep your beast safe...

Ohhh she's adorable..
Wait.. I was sposed to be watching the phones?
Moral here is "Don't drop your $700 phones from chest height into rough concrete kids"

Maybe the wind was too much when the S3 was dropped
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Hey guys, I found Casper the ghost!
I mean....the S2 is still the strongest phone out there when it comes to dropping. We need a S2 vs S3 drop test. We already know that iPhone 4S will get ****ed up every time
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yea, will have to get good case + screen guard.

I guess this will be the first time when I'll buy a case for my phone. S2 was invincible.

She wasn't very accurate with her dropping.
But anyone who uses a phone w/out a case is a fool (IMO).
Just a $300+ accident waiting to happen.
And cases are available sooo slim nowadays.

.. and seriously, you need to be 7ft tall or even taller for the phone to be dropped that high.. LOL
unless you're on a horse or umm levitating.. LOL.. what are the odds? hmm?

CZ Eddie said:
She wasn't very accurate with her dropping.
But anyone who uses a phone w/out a case is a fool (IMO).
Just a $300+ accident waiting to happen.
And cases are available sooo slim nowadays.
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I'm a fool and risky as hell. I hate cases, I like to see the natural beauty of my phone. I honestly forgot how nice my wife's Moto Atrix looks without the case cause she has this horrid(in my opinion) Speck case on it. To each their own though.

Here is one more
Might as well add it to OP
They wasted like 3 + 3 devices!
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im glad i have a case and insurance for my S3

That gorila Glass 2 might still be as hard but it looks like it isn't as though, that combined with a thinner bazel and you end up with a cracked phone. Luckely i already have a case, now i just need the phone,...
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Most people buying S3 already have a case and other accessories except the phone
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My girl dropped her phone from the second floor, she was wearing her robe and it had slipped out, then it fell over the railing upstairs straight to the hardwood on the first floor and slid several feet.
Turned out the phone had no scratches and just scratched the case, Good thing she had a case cause her palm pre would of got murdered!
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chuunarusamurai said:
My girl dropped her phone from the second floor, she was wearing her robe and it had slipped out, then it fell over the railing upstairs straight to the hardwood on the first floor and slid several feet.
Turned out the phone had no scratches and just scratched the case, Good thing she had a case cause her palm pre would of got murdered!
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galaxy s 3 thread man
yeah sometimes a phone can fall from 30cm and get smashed, other times not a single scratch :X

Someone should make a video of 'real life events'. You know...having the phone on lap then getting out of the car, etc. Because, in those instances, the phone isn't falling straight down. It's got some angle and slide to it.
(I took my Nexus One and threw it face down onto tiles about 3 feet in front of me...and nothing but the lcd underneath broke.)

SiNJiN76 said:
Someone should make a video of 'real life events'. You know...having the phone on lap then getting out of the car, etc. Because, in those instances, the phone isn't falling straight down. It's got some angle and slide to it.
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Im gonna get a zorb ball so i can protect my smartphone
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Hahahaha. Make sure you make a video!

hawkeye2188 said:
I'm a fool and risky as hell. I hate cases, I like to see the natural beauty of my phone. I honestly forgot how nice my wife's Moto Atrix looks without the case cause she has this horrid(in my opinion) Speck case on it. To each their own though.
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I am with you. I have never had a case, but do have a screen guard. Never had a problem yet.
It makes me laugh how the iphone crowd go on about how great looking their phone is and how the glass back looks great. Or when they go on about how the S2, looks like cheap plastic. Yet they cover their phone with a £1.99 cover from ebay, so they never see or feel the phone. And the gel, rubber cover from ebay is cheaper and tackier than the S2 phone.

this is the biggest downside of the phone... i don't care for the minor issues that i read about this phone except for this.. what was samsung thinking? didn't they test a few phones before putting it into production? didn't they test how tough gorilla glass 2 or lack there of before using it on their flagship phone?
fail!
i'm still upgrading to it though.. LOL

Razr M Durability: Drop test, Water Test, Battery

I want to purchase the Razr M but I can't find any information on it as far as durability goes. I don't want a phone I need to baby or put a huge outer-box on. I currently have a Droid X and I've dropped it hundreds of times, even in a toilet. It's had countless drinks spilled on it, underground sprinklers spray at it, and it's resided in water soaked pants and it still works. I have had to replace the digitizer twice and the LCD needs replacing but the phone is still going 3 years strong. Is the Droid Razr M durable and if I do manage to crack the screen, is it easily replaceable?
I've been eligible for a phone upgrade for a little over a year now but what has held me off is all new phones battery life and non swapable batteries. I feel absolutely helpless with a dead phone and I always carry a spare battery in my wallet. With the Razr M I won't be able to do that, so I need a godly battery. On a Friday I unplug my phone at 7AM and I need a phone that is going to still have a charge when I wake up Saturday morning in an obscure location. The Droid X does this fine with the 3700mAh battery I bought off eBay.

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I don't know if the battery will be enough for you (it's a big battery, but still very small compared to a 3700mAh battery), but the phone does have Gorilla Glass on the screen, an aluminum frame (or at least the front side, anyway), and a Kevlar back, so it's probably pretty durable. I've dropped my Droid Pro a few times, and the screen is still in near perfect condition, so the Gorilla Glass definitely helps. They say it's splash resistant, too, though I have no idea what that actually means.
It looks pretty easy to take apart, though. Some website posted a tear down video, and it's really simple if you follow that. The only thing that sucks is that the entire front is fused together as one piece, so if you were to crack the frame or the glass over the screen (not likely to do either, but still), you have no option to replace just those parts. You have to replace the frame, the glass, and the screen.

Sounds to me like you should buy the Maxx or Maxx HD. Not many phones (if any) besides those will get you to Saturday morning with much usage, especially on LTE.

Honestly the Razr M is suuper durable, so much that putting a case on it would almost be pointless. i have had mine for almost a month and its been dropped out of my lap onto the ground multiple times and it still looks brand new like out of the box. As far as battery goes it defiantly doesn't have 3700 in it but what it does have can defiantly get you thru the day easy with a little help from the smart actions that it comes stock with. i highly reccomend this phone to anyone and i sold my S3 once i got the Razr M Hopefully this helps a little bit

Just upgraded to jellybean last night and still running off the same charge seems battery that was already good gets a little better was at 100% before the update and was off the charger the whole update.
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Just upgraded to jellybean last night and still running off the same charge seems battery that was already good gets a little better was at 100% before the update and was off the charger the whole update.
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+1 on the statement about not needing a case. It adds bulk which isn't needed. I've yet to see a scratch on mine. I do however have a screen protector on it because I put it in my pocket and don't want keys to get the best of it. The protector has a number of scratches on it. Don't know if the Gorilla Glass will get scratched but why tempt fate.
As for battery, I'm still running ICS and getting 1-2 days easily on a charge. I may also decide to get an HD MAXX but primarily for HDMI out, larger internal storage, and the larger, hi-res screen, not for the battery life.
I would wager that even the RAZR HD would get great battery life, but the larger screen will be a big factor.

mk1151 said:
+1 on the statement about not needing a case. It adds bulk which isn't needed. I've yet to see a scratch on mine. I do however have a screen protector on it because I put it in my pocket and don't want keys to get the best of it. The protector has a number of scratches on it. Don't know if the Gorilla Glass will get scratched but why tempt fate.
As for battery, I'm still running ICS and getting 1-2 days easily on a charge. I may also decide to get an HD MAXX but primarily for HDMI out, larger internal storage, and the larger, hi-res screen, not for the battery life.
I would wager that even the RAZR HD would get great battery life, but the larger screen will be a big factor.
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Did it take a week or so to build up to that battery life? For me its getting better everyday definitely, but still not making it through the full day. I do use it somewhat heavily but nothing insane like hours of screen on time.