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HTC HD2 720p Video Recording

Hey people, i was wondering since HTC are going to update the HTC Desire with 720p recording in the future via an update. HTC HD2 has the same camera why cant we have an update????
and by the way dont start using because windows mobile 6.5 doesnt allow it blah blah blah......
ps just recieved an update read below....
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its hard the hardware its capable of doing it software might not be. Windows Mobile its old and a bit dusty. Im pretty sure theirs a way but HTC dont care the HD2 its like the last strong windows Mobile device standing. HTC are putting their effort to android and windows 7.

josemedina1983 said:
its hard the hardware its capable of doing it software might not be. Windows Mobile its old and a bit dusty. Im pretty sure theirs a way but HTC dont care the HD2 its like the last strong windows Mobile device standing. HTC are putting their effort to android and windows 7.
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It might be plausible to enable the HD recording in the future, but I know WinMo is incapable of supporting HD recording. You'll never know, maybe something miraculous will happen and this might work!
However, at least it's nice to get pics at higher resolutions than 5mp. There's a tweak here, if you didn't know.

its not hardware problem... but the winmo 6.5 dont support hd recording...
show me one win mo 6.5 device with HD recording...
its support only android or difrend os...
so maybe in the final android port can hd2record high definition...
but maybe not

ilijan said:
its not hardware problem... but the winmo 6.5 dont support hd recording...
show me one win mo 6.5 device with HD recording...
its support only android or difrend os...
so maybe in the final android port can hd2record high definition...
but maybe not
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Yeah, and I'm thinking Microsoft might work on fixing that in WP7 and completely ignore WM6.5.x.
Hopefully the devs get that to work. The TP2's Android port still doesn't have camera support and the port's been around since December.

Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?

guys if wm6.5 dont support 720p rec
ok how about 720x480 or WVGA like samsung omnia ii ?
something better than nothing

Euroman28 said:
Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?
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look at the nexus one

scrizz said:
look at the nexus one
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Can you confirm to use that the camera in the Nexus One and HD2 are identical?

im pretty sure its 720p recording will be possible in thw android port, but because WM6.5 is well old and sucky (or ancient if you dont like to call it sucky)... it wont be possible in it, but hopefully it will be possible in WP7... and i belive android devs said it will be possible in android but thats when its fully ported of course...

Euroman28 said:
Lets ask another question has anybody here been able to prove that our beloved HD2 supports 720p recording hardware-wise? And if yes its just a software/driver issue thats keeping us from recording at 720p?
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well, ive tried lol but not successful, camera shuts down everytime i try it, but i can record on WVGA(800x480) plus a bit smoother frame rate than normal HD2

See i'm kinda holding back from buying one of those mini HD camcorders because im certain someone can create a break through with the HD2's camera. saves me taking two devices everywhere just for the camera, when the HD2's camera seems more than capable.
I've not been on the forum long so can someone explain the process that could make this work? Im aware of the WM 6.5 limitations, has anybody got a solid port to android or WM7 yet...?

Dani01c said:
well, ive tried lol but not successful, camera shuts down everytime i try it, but i can record on WVGA(800x480) plus a bit smoother frame rate than normal HD2
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How are you recording in WVGA? I know the Android Camcorder app does but I have never heard of the WinMo recorder going beyond VGA

I don't see how the OS has anything to do with the resolution that the camera can capture at. The limitation is probably in the firmware (in the camera module), camera module driver, or the camera software. Could also be a hardware issue with whatever bus interface is between the camera module and the HD2, it could be a standard USB bus which would have the bandwidth for HD video, or it could be something proprietary with a low bitrate that wouldn't handle the bandwidth of a 720p/24/30 real time video stream. The bus could be a real issue, notice how some of the 1st camera phones that could do 720p were 720p/24. 720p/24 is a lower bitrate than the 720p/30 more common now
I do know that I have gotten my HD2 to capture WVGA video in one of the android builds. I never took the time to evaluate if it was capturing a true pixel per pixel WVGA image, or if it was really capturing a VGA image and then either zooming or stretching it to WVGA in software

chrisrj28 said:
How are you recording in WVGA? I know the Android Camcorder app does but I have never heard of the WinMo recorder going beyond VGA
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I'd like to know as well. I'm more interested in doing widescreen video recording natively. When I run android it does it. How can we do this on the WinMo side? It's not HD just widescreen...

juiceppc said:
I'd like to know as well. I'm more interested in doing widescreen video recording natively. When I run android it does it. How can we do this on the WinMo side? It's not HD just widescreen...
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Its quite possible that android is still recording VGA mode and then just cropping off the top and bottom, basically leaving you with 640x360 effective pixels.
We need someone that knows the android cam software that can tell us exactly what its doing, or someone to do a resolution test recording a pattern to measure the recorded resolution

well... actually You are wrong. some android builds ARE capable of recording 800 x 480 videos. what more, those are being recorded flawlessly, no frame drops or stuttering.
I believe that I have recorded those with mattc rom.

bronx said:
well... actually You are wrong. some android builds ARE capable of recording 800 x 480 videos. what more, those are being recorded flawlessly, no frame drops or stuttering.
I believe that I have recorded those with mattc rom.
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but is it really true 800x480 pixels or the 640x360 upscaled to fill out 800x480? only true way to test is to use a resolution pattern
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/How-We-Test-Camcorders-36180.htm
I am pretty sure that the HD2 has a 4:3 not a 16:9 sensor for the camera. this would explain why we loose resolution when the still camera is put into wide mode. it takes the 4:3 5mpixel image and chops the top and bottom off to make it "widescreen"

drownage said:
im pretty sure its 720p recording will be possible in thw android port, but because WM6.5 is well old and sucky (or ancient if you dont like to call it sucky)... it wont be possible in it, but hopefully it will be possible in WP7... and i belive android devs said it will be possible in android but thats when its fully ported of course...
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hey guys so after looking into this a little bit more i have found a few odd solutions but a resurfacing of one of the hd2's faults. i have been able to play high res .mp4 movies in the htc video player no problem. it was designed to fit the series of images best to the screen it is given(just to point out the obvious). now due to the fixed screen res on the device, the MOST your going to get out of any video that you watch is 480x800. the program is just running a data summary per pixel when dealing with a pixle count higher than 480. its the same (or similar) process as to when you you choose full screen or wide screen on the device to play movies. you are not getting true pixel to pixel data play back (unless you record with the phone camera at 480p or convert a movie to EXACTLY 480x whatever. which btw does not matter.) with that being said, the htc video play supports a vast amount of resolutions including 720p .mp4. (you guys have made a mountain out of an ant hill) yes i do understand different res vids also have various bit rate and playback qualities, but the best thing to do for that is download chainfires 3d drivers and manually clock your processor to 998Mhz. rendering becomes seamless at that point. so to end one vicious cycle, yes, you can play 720p videos on your hd2 just make sure its the propper file type. now back to the other issue... 720p RECORDING. absolutely the phone can handle it! its a matter of opening an additional camera function to the htc camera. easier said than done. the general idea is changing a value within either the firmware or through the registry for you input image pixle count. for ex:
blah 12031029 blah 2398x1098
blah 239840923
blah blah blah 90238942
bada bing pixel count per image 480x640 <= we need a way to edit this.
or in a reg directory
blah1/YOUR MOM/HTC CAMERA/CAMCORDER/INPUT VALUE/-_-X-_-
SO basically the sooner we can figure a way to change these values (i know its SUPER SIMPLIFIED) the closer we are to getting 720p recording on the hd2...... so yea ..... WHOS WITH ME!?! and if you have any ideas on how to please add to the brainstorming!

mmendez92 said:
hey guys so after looking into this a little bit more i have found a few odd solutions but a resurfacing of one of the hd2's faults. i have been able to play high res .mp4 movies in the htc video player no problem. it was designed to fit the series of images best to the screen it is given(just to point out the obvious). now due to the fixed screen res on the device, the MOST your going to get out of any video that you watch is 480x800. the program is just running a data summary per pixel when dealing with a pixle count higher than 480. its the same (or similar) process as to when you you choose full screen or wide screen on the device to play movies. you are not getting true pixel to pixel data play back (unless you record with the phone camera at 480p or convert a movie to EXACTLY 480x whatever. which btw does not matter.) with that being said, the htc video play supports a vast amount of resolutions including 720p .mp4. (you guys have made a mountain out of an ant hill) yes i do understand different res vids also have various bit rate and playback qualities, but the best thing to do for that is download chainfires 3d drivers and manually clock your processor to 998Mhz. rendering becomes seamless at that point. so to end one vicious cycle, yes, you can play 720p videos on your hd2 just make sure its the propper file type. now back to the other issue... 720p RECORDING. absolutely the phone can handle it! its a matter of opening an additional camera function to the htc camera. easier said than done. the general idea is changing a value within either the firmware or through the registry for you input image pixle count. for ex:
blah 12031029 blah 2398x1098
blah 239840923
blah blah blah 90238942
bada bing pixel count per image 480x640 <= we need a way to edit this.
or in a reg directory
blah1/YOUR MOM/HTC CAMERA/CAMCORDER/INPUT VALUE/-_-X-_-
SO basically the sooner we can figure a way to change these values (i know its SUPER SIMPLIFIED) the closer we are to getting 720p recording on the hd2...... so yea ..... WHOS WITH ME!?! and if you have any ideas on how to please add to the brainstorming!
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[Q] 720p recording

It's been a while since this has been brought up, but I was wondering if there has been any current development regarding 720p recording within Android.
It was announced a few months ago that it was possible but never implemented into any builds.
I would take the buggiest build if the only working feature on it was 720p recording.
So has 720p recording been set on the back-burner until more important features are stabilized?

id think so, and also hardware limitations is a big factor as well... can the Leo's camera even capable of recording 720p video?

Yes it is. And if I'm not wrong informed I think the devs are working on it. But at the moment it is secondary. They first want to finish NAND. I guess it will be implemented then.

Droid-X as a webcam

i know there are all kinds of apps that do this but can someone tell me one where i can get audio and video and it be in sync and not super delayed?
i would like the highest res video i can get with still getting 30fps
i can use usb cord to my pc that dont bother me.
i will use whatever method that needs to be done.
everything i tried so far = fail
im running latest nightly CM7
my home wifi router dont do wireless-n (only b/g)
anyhow i would really love to use the droid-x as a real webcam with video and AUDIO that is in sync and somewhere close to 30fps and not a 5 second delay
thanks

I looked for something maybe 6 months ago to make the DX a decent webcam, but I gave up. I found that the apps with audio support lagged too much, while the apps that played back smoothly had no audio support. Best bet, buy a better webcam for you computer.
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we know the DX can record at 30fps at 720P in good lighting.
wonder why we cant get a good stream at 480P with audio in sync?
someone probably just hasnt figured out how to do it yet.

Camera Features - ICS, JB vs GB

Hello everybody, I was thinking about our HD2's camera module, and I realized that we don't have the same features yet from ICS to JB as in GB.
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Pictures:
Well about pictures I think we can do almost they same things on all Android versions, a little exception for Barcode scanners that works at 99.9% and not fully working, but it is negligible
Videos:
Now we can consider two ways...
GB Videos
ICS and JB Videos
- GB Videos:
Ok, GB videos are the perfection, because we can record up to 720p @ 30FPS (maybe more but I never tried)
- ICS and JB Videos:
Well that's the real point of this topic, because I'm really bored to think that if I need to record something special, probly it could be a crappy video file.
Why that? Because on ICS and JB (never tried JB but I know that we have almost the same lib) the recording is up to 800x480 @15FPS
The resolution is not a real problem, because is enought bigger to watch a great video, but about the FPS??
I don't want to sound like a fanatic who just want to know that have the best in his own hands but he don't see any differences between two things....
But when I watch a video recorded @15FPS I see a stuttered video and it's really annoying, because on GB it was fantastic and the camera module works best it can do.
So my question is:
Can we hope in a better camera in the future?
I'm not saying better than GB but just as good...
HD2 is the King and I think that this can be possible sooner or later :fingers-crossed:

Did you manage to record 720p @ 30 fps on an HD2 in Android? What ROM did you use?

I think it was typhoon 7.2cm but maybe with other is possible too
And just once I recorded at 1080p lol but never happened anymore.
I use LGcamera to record because it allows to set different parameters

Thanks for the tip. I can't test right now because I switched to JB this morning, I would waste the rest of the day i I were to switch back to GB and back.
Lgcamera is great on JB though; the stock app can only shoot video at ~4 fps at the moment.

atakama said:
Thanks for the tip. I can't test right now because I switched to JB this morning, I would waste the rest of the day i I were to switch back to GB and back.
Lgcamera is great on JB though; the stock app can only shoot video at ~4 fps at the moment.
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Really the stock camera on JB is just 4FPS?

atakama said:
Did you manage to record 720p @ 30 fps on an HD2 in Android? What ROM did you use?
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You can't, that's BS. No ROMs properly support more than 480p @ 30FPS.
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zenida said:
I think it was typhoon 7.2cm but maybe with other is possible too
And just once I recorded at 1080p lol but never happened anymore.
I use LGcamera to record because it allows to set different parameters
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in which ROM did you just do such a thing like that...? :-?
or even 720p recording...? which rom...?

Trust me you can with cm 7.2 typhoon if I remember correctly... I recorded at 720p @30fps with LGcamera pro
Is a big step anyway to get 30fps even if 800*480

so there are roms that can record at 720p?

zenida said:
Trust me you can with cm 7.2 typhoon if I remember correctly... I recorded at 720p @30fps with LGcamera pro
Is a big step anyway to get 30fps even if 800*480
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I agree with this guy......I just tried typhoon rom and it actually worked...720p @ 30fps video shooting....lgcamera pro....

Videos, video recording, and Jelly Bean

As usual, the 'final frontier' of getting the latest and greatest Android flavor fully functional on our 'old' phones is videos and video recording. That it works at all is amazing, and is thanks to the equally amazing devs who continue to support the OG Droid incredible. Now, I'm not a dev and don't pretend to be, I just like to experiment. The purpose of this thread is to document the current state of things, and to share what works and what doesn't work. I'm using Pons CM10, but Pons AOKP, Albinoman AOSP, and Evervolv should all provide a similar experience as far as video stuff is concerned.
First, the state of 'stock':
- Video recording does actually work. The camera preview is wonky, but it does record real video footage. This ain't no 720p though, frame rate is maybe 6 fps - that's pretty jerky if you ask me. Audio is steady.
- Video playback is very bad. While the stock video player seems to handle audio OK, the video stutters badly, sometimes pausing on one frame for several seconds.
- YouTube playback is smooth and seamless if the phone is in landscape mode, the video is full screen, and you don't touch it. Anything that causes the screen to display anything other than the video being played will cause it to flicker and sometimes pause.
- Netflix does not work at all.
Next, the state of 'free' apps from the market:
- Videocam Illusions can record smoother video than the stock camcorder, but only because it allows you to lower the quality and uses its own software encoding. At the resolution of the stock camcorder (640x480), the frame rate is similar. Audio quality can be increased with little or no impact on video quality.
- MX Player, by default, plays slow and stuttering video just like the stock player. With hardware decoding enabled, video files play quite nicely (provided they were recorded on something other than a dinc running JB!). Audio sometimes goes silent for a second or two.
- Camera ICS allows increasing the video bitrate (and has less problems with wonky preview) but records videos just like the stock camcorder.
- lgCamera and DoubleShot allow much more control over video recording quality. However, the only settings that work are H.264 encoding, 15fps, 640x480. Which, of course, yields similar results to the stock camcorder - about 6 fps at best. Audio quality on these apps can be tweaked nicely.
My questions for those who know about such things:
Would it be possible to get the stock video player to use hardware accelleration?
Would it be possible to enable other video encoders in the ROM, at least for experimental purposes?

Sorry to break it to you man but the dInc is a bit behind the times. From what I understand the lack of updated hardware drivers from the manufacture is what's limiting it to be further more compatible with the latest AOSP. The glory days of the dInc were CM7, past that it went down hill IMO.

m52 power! said:
Sorry to break it to you man but the dInc is a bit behind the times. From what I understand the lack of updated hardware drivers from the manufacture is what's limiting it to be further more compatible with the latest AOSP. The glory days of the dInc were CM7, past that it went down hill IMO.
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I'm fully aware that the Dinc is ancient by cell phone standards - that's why I have one. The way I see it, I could:
1. Pay $500 for the latest and greatest phone.
2. Get back on a Verizon contract and pay $1200/year for the latest and greatest phone.
3. Buy a used Dinc for $80 and deal with a few issues like this
Which choice is the right one for me is obvious, though it's definitely not the right choice for everyone.
FWIW, video recording via the stock camcorder has been broken since about 10-29 (two days after I posted the OP). There have been rumors of a possible fix in the works from Evervolv, but I think they're mostly focused on the increasingly difficult task of bringing the latest version of Android to what used to be top-of-the-line phones.

I dont know.. Although video recording doesnt work, CM10 is absolutely amazing and stable on Dinc(at least pon's roms are).

123421342 said:
I dont know.. Although video recording doesnt work, CM10 is absolutely amazing and stable on Dinc(at least pon's roms are).
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I'll second that. The camera situation is getting better slowly, as bugs are being ironed out upstream and the devs try out various fixes. For me, the benefits of jb outweigh the downsides, though I definitely did appreciate the consistency of cm7.2. Perhaps you should stick with that for now?

I've had to switch back to cm7.2 recently. Flickering YouTube really started to get to me. Really miss the UI, though. Anyone find a fix or at least a way to alleviate the flickering?
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flicker isn't that bad on my phone using tiny's cm10

zenihilist said:
I've had to switch back to cm7.2 recently. Flickering YouTube really started to get to me. Really miss the UI, though. Anyone find a fix or at least a way to alleviate the flickering?
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While it doesn't have the cm customization I posted an evervolv android 4.2 build and people said it doesn't have YouTube flickering. Its a really early build so it has issues so don't flash unless you want to help report bugs.
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tiny4579 said:
While it doesn't have the cm customization I posted an evervolv android 4.2 build and people said it doesn't have YouTube flickering. Its a really early build so it has issues so don't flash unless you want to help report bugs.
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Indeed the flickering in YouTube seems to be gone in your 4.2 build - that's a pleasant surprise! Video stuff in other places is pretty much unchanged; MX Player plays videos smoothly if hardware decoding is enabled, the stock video player stutters badly, trying to record videos FC's the camera, and VideoCam Illusions can still record medium-low quality videos.

The 4.2 ROM is awesome, Tiny. Thanks so much! I don't see the flicker anywhere anymore (currents, chrome, etc). Aside from the odd fc that I'm unable to reproduce, this may be more smooth than 4.1, cm10. Also, videos recorded in in gingerbread ROMs play fine for me on the stock player.
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