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Fixed some instability on my HD2

Just thought I would share my experiences to see if it benefitted others.
I have a Vodafone UK HD2 which came with 1.43ROM.
I used HSPL1 and extracted the NBH from the official WWE 1.66ROM and applied that to my handset and I've tried a couple of radio's and am now on 2.09.51
With the above setup I was getting quite a bit of instability still where I would sometimes have to reset the phone a couple of times a day. Calls would sometimes crash the phone, etc it just seemed buggy and instable but just about useable.
Then I saw HSPL2 and didnt think much of it until the other day when I started to look at it and noticed you could pick different HSPL's and spotted 1.66 in the list. Brain says to me you've got 1.66ROM and 1.42SPL. Back on the Kaiser the wrong SPL with a ROM could make it unstable... I wonder...
So I proceeded to install HSPL2 and selected 1.66HSPL option. Since then (2 1/2 days) my phone has been stable, quick and has not needed a reboot except for once with the data dropout issue (which I reckon is Windows/SenseUI App related).
Also battery life seems to have been extended as well.
Its like a completely different handset to me as I was started to get frustrated with it before this but now I am happy again.
Any comments are welcome.

Hi,
It's Darrin from the VF forum, interested to try the 1.66 HSPL, can you plop it ontop of the the existing one, or do you have to re-install everything from scratch?
Any chance you can point me in the right direction?
Cheers
Darrrin

sounds interesting thanks for the post starfury
makes sense aswell
at the end of the day youve always been booting a phone with a 1.66 system with a bootloader made for a different system.
i would try this right now but im using my warranty rights for an exchange atm but will try soon =]
thanks!

pastypacker said:
Hi,
It's Darrin from the VF forum, interested to try the 1.66 HSPL, can you plop it ontop of the the existing one, or do you have to re-install everything from scratch?
Any chance you can point me in the right direction?
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yes you can change spl and it won't affect your rom. download hspl 2 from rom development section, run it as administrator and choose which spl to instal.(choose one with hspl not 0000 of course)

I've been running without HSDPA for a little bit and recently switched it back on and the device locked up twice in a matter of hours. Switched it off again and its fine again.
I cant imagine that Vodafone UK havent implemented HSDPA properly so maybe there is an issue with the HSDPA protocol in the firmware?

the 2.051.08_3 radio will not work on the telestra hd2, using it on USA AT&T 3.5G, will it?

poulosjr said:
the 2.051.08_3 radio will not work on the telestra hd2, using it on USA AT&T 3.5G, will it?
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How is that even relevant to the thread?

[Q] .50 Radios on stock 1.66?

Right since this place has gone android crazy over the last few months, I thought I'd give it a go. Went through all the instructions, updated hspl to 2.08 updated radio to greater than 2.08. Ran android, boot screen shows all the boot up text then melts away into two lines, then....nothing (left it half hour just black screen and green flashing led). Anyway, reading though the 19900 posts on android I stumbled upon a post saying that to run android you need to flash a .50 radio not .51 What I want to know is as I am using the wwe stock 1.66 can I flash a .50 radio with no ill effects or will I have to flash a new rom as well?
If it means flashing a new rom then I'll just stick with WM as I've got my phone running nicely and haven't needed to mess about with it at all (to get it working!) for months

You can flash the Radio ROM only. As you are not using a TMOUS HD2 then there is no problem with bricking your phone.
I am currently using the 1.66WWE ROM and 2.10.50.08_2 Radio ROM.
I don't know how well this works with Android, as I like WinMo.

fred_up said:
You can flash the Radio ROM only. As you are not using a TMOUS HD2 then there is no problem with bricking your phone.
I am currently using the 1.66WWE ROM and 2.10.50.08_2 Radio ROM.
I don't know how well this works with Android, as I like WinMo.
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Ok cheers for that, will give it a go. Won't be using android as a day to day option, just want to try it out see what all the fuss is about.

Be careful: I tried THAT already (updating my radio on my 1.66-ROM Radio 2.06.51.07) to run Android but found out that all upper radios 2.08 and higher) from the radio-thread do partially not work on my HD2 (some of the basic functions Phone/WiFi/Wireless Router/HSPA etc. didn´t work anymore after upgrading).
So after flashing new radio CHECK EVERY function of radio if it´s working as before.
I had to go back to 2.06.51 to get my smooth running of my HD2 again with all Radio features working flawless.

troed said:
Be careful: I tried THAT already (updating my radio on my 1.66-ROM Radio 2.06.51.07) to run Android but found out that all upper radios 2.08 and higher) from the radio-thread do partially not work on my HD2 (some of the basic functions Phone/WiFi/Wireless Router/HSPA etc. didn´t work anymore after upgrading).
So after flashing new radio CHECK EVERY function of radio if it´s working as before.
I had to go back to 2.06.51 to get my smooth running of my HD2 again with all Radio features working flawless.
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Got to admit after flashing 2.09.51 yesterday it actually improved things, got hsdpa at home (4 bars as well) never had anything other than gprs as I live in an old quarry, lowest it has dropped to is 2bars of 3g so as far as dial up connectivity is am better off. Not had other issues with wifi, phone or messaging either, not tried bluetooth or wifi router yet but would assume that they are fine also. Obviously if things do start going ary I'll flash the original back
BTW android now boots and runs like lightining!

So I give it a last chance. Didn´t try 2.09.51 (goofed the line and thought it´s for TMOUS). Tx for the tip
Did You change rilphone.dll and if yes to which version ?

djingonthenet said:
Got to admit after flashing 2.09.51 yesterday it actually improved things, got hsdpa at home (4 bars as well) never had anything other than gprs as I live in an old quarry, lowest it has dropped to is 2bars of 3g so as far as dial up connectivity is am better off. Not had other issues with wifi, phone or messaging either, not tried bluetooth or wifi router yet but would assume that they are fine also. Obviously if things do start going ary I'll flash the original back
BTW android now boots and runs like lightining!
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Hi djingonthenet,
Can you confirm you have flashed the radio to 2.09.51 and not 2.09.50? Any issue observed so far?
I have the same configuration as your HD2 and would like to try the Andriod but worry that the radio may cause unknow issue to my HD2, eg phone,3g, or wifi, etc.

PPP, RMNET and RADIO

I just wanted to let you guys know that if you have a lot of crashes and/or problems with PPP data, you might try to change your Radio to one of the latest versions.
I'm curently using the energyrom(posted on this forum) and I always used the 2.07.50
Radio rom. With this Radio, I had a lot of problems with the Mattc build and the froyostone build concerning PPP data. I sometimes didn't saw the arrows, the phone froze,bad reception etc...etc...
After playing with the latest Radio, all my problems are gone. The 3G/HSDPA works as it should be. So for the folks who are still using RMNET like I used too, it might be worth changing your Radio to see if it fixes anything.

Hopefully it works for some people, but it doesn't for me.
I've always used 2.12 radio but PPP just does not work at all.
I'm still trying to work out exactly what prevents some people from using PPP.

I also had to use APN backup to configure my APN settings properly. Before that, it would'nt work for me either.

Try 2.10.50_26. Ppp works for me
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im using whats in my sig and PPP works for me.

2.10 here too.
PPP works fine.
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How far r we with the new build 1.2 can u give us in time waited all day today its 1am in UK now
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yeah changing the radio fixed alot of my bigs

+1 for radio 2.10. I tried 2.12 and got freezes with PPP. Going to the radio below and PPP acts just like RMNet. I get the occasional 10-15 second freeze when recovering in WiFi, but I never get that in 3G/H mode.

PPP never work for me, tried all available radios for TMOUS, I don't get service at all.

+1 for 2.10.50.26 never had a problem with PPP, and I've used them all.

I use my ROMs clubbed with 2.10.50.26 as Radio and mattc/shub/hyper all work great PPP/RMNET/Wifi/Bluetooth
I guess it depends on what core files are being used on WM side...i use 2.14 base which came with the same radio as mentioned above and has best compatibility with the core files.
Yesterday, I got 1% hr standby with Push On and Bluetooth headset connected and few SMS....thats very much comparable to WM itself...however, sometimes it suddenly drains and I suspect some bg prog for that ...

Just adding a different approach to the story... Could the carrier have something to do with this??

I don't think the Radio version has anything to do with the hard freezes.. As I've tried every radio version and winmo compatible roms for android builds and still, I would get a hard freeze each and everytime.. It would work for a period of time, but once it disconnects and try to reconnect, it freezes.. Sometimes it would just freeze as soon as you boot Android.. And that only happens when I input the right APN settings for my internet plan.. Or when it starts accepting data's.. So I think it's got something to do with the Carrier, APN and Proxy settings.. Either you have to have the right internet settings for the Android phones/plan, or it would freeze your phone.. Anyway, that's just what I think.. RMNET on the other hand is rock solid! It doesn't matter whether you put a Proxy or not, it would connect just fine without freezing.. Just my observation..

For me only rmnet work, ppp never worked. I am in Switzerland by Sunrise. Is there someone being by Sunrise Switzerland and having ppp working?
I am running hd2 mattc 1.6b.

for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.

noellenchris said:
for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.
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Thank you for the info. I was getting crazy.. I had the Matt 1.7 ppp working for 2 days no problem at all. But after 2 days I'm having intermittent hard freeze when I start the apn. ..
I was going to try with a 2.10. Radio.. but after your post I will kelp 2.12 radio and move to rmnet
Thanks for sharing

I'm on 3 in Australia
In my case both PPP and RMNET are working for normal Internet, but I cannot access Plane 3 on PPP, but I can access with RMNET. Anyone has the same issue on 3 in other countries? or perhaps any solution on how to enable Planet 3 on PPP?

[Q] Is there a Task 29 for Radio- Solved

Hi guys
After the upgrade to recently released TMOUS 3.14.531.1 MR. I seem to be having weaker wifi signal.
So, I returned to custom ROM and tried different radios including stock radios. After performing task 29, checked with different ROM (custom and stock) and following radios:
2.10.50.26
2.12.50.02
2.14.50.04
2.15.50.14
still find that wifi strength is way low then it used to be. No problem with the wifi router as my three different laptops can pick up the signal from anywhere in the house.
Also, I used to see my neighbor's wifi access point in the phone wifi setting but I don't see it now, so it is definately a phone issue.
I think it is not a hardware problem, as I can access wifi in a close range. The strength weakens at a great reate with distance.
My android port also has a weak wifi signal and performs as in the winmo settings so it does not look like winmo rom issue.
My theory is that the radio file and setting are messed up and are affecting the performance. Task 29 only cleans up the ROM area and I haven't seen anything in the forum which can clear up the radio software section of the HD2 so that a fresh radio install can be done.
Can some one provide a clue on what should be done?
Thanks.

Have you tried to flash back the stock rom with SD card and start all over again? It may help.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Did you try the Wi-Fi advanced menu in WM and switch it to best performance?

The exact same thing happened to me, too. I am trying to avoid a master reset if at all possible. Is there someting in the registry that can be changed or possibly reloading a driver?

BBsix said:
Have you tried to flash back the stock rom with SD card and start all over again? It may help.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Yes, tried sd install too. Converted my HSPL2.8 to SPL2.10000 in the process. Also, reverted to the stock radios. Still wifi is weak.

BBsix said:
Have you tried to flash back the stock rom with SD card and start all over again? It may help.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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1) I am pretty sure the radio rom has nothing to do with wifi, radio rom is likely the firmware for the cellular radio/modem only
2) I agree with the above about the SD card flash, This will overwrite everything. if you are still having issues after an SD card flash then its probably a hardware issue, interference, or the APs for some reason aren't outputting as strong of a signal

d0ug said:
1) I am pretty sure the radio rom has nothing to do with wifi, radio rom is likely the firmware for the cellular radio/modem only
2) I agree with the above about the SD card flash, This will overwrite everything. if you are still having issues after an SD card flash then its probably a hardware issue, interference, or the APs for some reason aren't outputting as strong of a signal
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Ok, I have found that inserting SD card is causing issue in my unit. Without a SD card wifi signal strength is fine. I have detailed the issue in the following thread in the General Section since it seems that a lot of people are having wifi signal strength probelm and that section looks more appropriate for this discussion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828036

tm515 said:
Hi guys
After the upgrade to recently released TMOUS 3.14.531.1 MR. I seem to be having weaker wifi signal.
So, I returned to custom ROM and tried different radios including stock radios. After performing task 29, checked with different ROM (custom and stock) and following radios:
2.10.50.26
2.12.50.02
2.14.50.04
2.15.50.14
still find that wifi strength is way low then it used to be. No problem with the wifi router as my three different laptops can pick up the signal from anywhere in the house.
Also, I used to see my neighbor's wifi access point in the phone wifi setting but I don't see it now, so it is definately a phone issue.
I think it is not a hardware problem, as I can access wifi in a close range. The strength weakens at a great reate with distance.
My android port also has a weak wifi signal and performs as in the winmo settings so it does not look like winmo rom issue.
My theory is that the radio file and setting are messed up and are affecting the performance. Task 29 only cleans up the ROM area and I haven't seen anything in the forum which can clear up the radio software section of the HD2 so that a fresh radio install can be done.
Can some one provide a clue on what should be done?
Thanks.
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Finally, solved the wifi problem. Looks like connector coming loose.
This is how the problem was solved.
Opened up the unit and seated all the cables properly. Also raised the copper spring connectors a bit so that when the phone back is snapped in place, the antenna and motherboard are properly connected.
HTC HD2 diassembly/assembly video is available at the following site:
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
but be warned, your warranty will be void if you open your phone!
Also, a SD install of of ship ROM overwrite both radio and rom so that is a task 29 for radio.

Signal issues on HD2

Hi,
Im having problems with my HD2 signal. The problem is that it searches for my provider on startup for about 2 minutes and gets max 1 to 2 bars only on the second floor of my house, although when it has a connection it has 3G. Its mostly at no connection.
I have a second HD2 aswell and that is running okey even in the basement.
No warranty, so no point of suggesting that.
Ive flashed many differents roms and radios, didnt help.
Any suggestions I should try?
Where is the internal antenna located of this phone?
Thanks in advance!

try swopping sims to see ifs its the sim, assuming they are both on the same network
If not swop out the sim with one thats compatable

Naah, its not the problem of the sim, because one of the hd2 works perfect with my sim and the other doesnt with the same sim. So if the second one doesnt have a grudge against my sim then it should not be a problem of the Sim. Thanks for the advice although!
The question im quite interested at is where is the internal antenna of the HD2, I would like to check the connections.

It's a know problem with many HD2's i think some sort of bug in android. Switch to 2G network only in the settings and ull have full reception all the time.

Try to remove the battery over night, and then reflash with Radio-ROM and OS-ROM of your choice.
worked for me, no signal issues since I did this.

Soz, wrong theard :/

rgr81 said:
Try to remove the battery over night, and then reflash with Radio-ROM and OS-ROM of your choice.
worked for me, no signal issues since I did this.
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+1 Definitely check the radio you are using.
Do you know what radio?

im having this same issue. it just happened yesterday. its not the sim card i know that for a fact. im running android on it nand. what is radios??

hi im jesus said:
im having this same issue. it just happened yesterday. its not the sim card i know that for a fact. im running android on it nand. what is radios??
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You can flash a different radio version just like you flash other stuff. Be careful and read the directions though because you can brick the device doing a radio flash.
Go to your phone settings and "about phone" and you should find your radio version. Most of us use 2.15.50.14.
Click here for the HTC HD2 Master Radio Thread
Read and find out what might be best to use for your carrier and or location. I used 2.15.50.14 because it was recommended by TMOUS users which I am. Some people test different radios and see which seems to work best for them.
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The radio controls stuff like your carrier signal, bluetooth, wifi, etc.

thanks i updated to 2.15.50.14 but im still having this problem . idk what else to try

Having some trouble with that also. So, the steps are:
Reflash Radio, than android and see if it works?
If it doesn't, anybody knows the best Radio for brazilian carriers? (Mine is Oi Santa Catarina)
Thanx.