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vodafone Nederlands, 3G connection problem

I'm looking for some advice concerning 3G connection from vodafone in The Nederlands. Right after putting new simcard into my HD I started getting this annoying:
"dialled...
cannot connect for an unknown reason..."
error every time some application tried to get a 3G connection. So decided to put some new cooked ROM based on 6.5. My old one was almost 1 year old and based on 6.1.
So picked up the new Laurentius en voila, it fixed the problem.
Played around a bit with this new rom and decided to check out the XannyTech Grid 1.2.5. Played around with it for one day. Had to soft reset a couple of times cause of HTC messaging that was freezing everytime it tried to read all the txt messages that I restored plus I played around with different tweaks from Advanced Confing etc.
Anyway after all that I soft-reseted for the last time, started up an Opera and bam... connection error again. Exactly as the one before. Did a hard reset, nothing. Same problem all the time.
Anybody experienced something similar ? What do you think it could be ? Should I upgrade my radio ? My current one is 1.13. I was thinking about upgrading to 1.17 but it's very much dependent on a service provider and place so I'm wondering if there's anybody from Nederlands who could give me advice on that, maybe there's some specific version that is the best for Voda ?
thanks for support

Running vodafone in NL here and have to say im having no problems.
Been running on the 1.14 since it was available and just last week switched to the 1.17 and thats running a bit better than the 1.14.
Also i've been running a lot of roms from this place and never experienced the issue you describe.
Suppose it might be the mix of 1.13 and the rillphone dll's found in the varying roms you tried. Since the radio and rillphone dll need to be compatible and support each others functions this might cause your issues.
So concluding my guess would be to try the 1.17 radio.

Yes, as explained in the Android Thread, Voda NL has trouble with their 3G Network or Internet Connection. http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63198/vodafone-kampt-opnieuw-met-landelijke-storing-datanetwerk.html

What the HELL has this to do with Blackstone ROM development!? Come on.
Please mods, close this.

ok, looks like I should check the voda website next time. I'll upgrade the radio anyway since lots of people say that it works good for them. Thanks for help

motoko said:
ok, looks like I should check the voda website next time.
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No kidding?
Next topic is about your monthly costs are to high @ Voda?

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Moved to general discussion forum as not related to rom development

@FallenSpartan
Thank you, I was too fast with my choice of discussion place, will pay more attention next time
@SeniorMembers
Looks like you should get some green tea or a massage, I heard that it helps with stress... but come to think about it I'm not very surprised by your reactions since you're probably dutch...

Dear TS,
Just look at any random dutch techsite or just contact Vodafone...
For example see:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63198/vo...et-landelijke-storing-datanetwerk-update.html

Signal is AWFULL! (When Handled)

I've copied this from the Vodafone (UK) forum - but I don't seem to be the only one with a proble... Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I've had my HD2 for just a few days now and I can honestly say that unless something is sorted soon I won't be using it much longer! I have exactly the same problem in both DT1 and BH20 post codes. Singal is good and strong when the device is left on a desk/table etc... I can have FULL signal but lift the device up and it drops to 3, 2, 1 and then no signal...
I can make perfect phone calls using hands free, but can't even send or recieve a text if I pick the phone up. We're talking less than 24" of movement here so it has to be device related!
Comparing this to the HTC Diamond. The Diamond although showing slightly less signal (2-3bars) is much more stable and non-reactive to being handled.
I'm using the very latest updates with HSDPA/HSUPA disabled.
It would seem that HTC has dropped the ball here.
(HSPL - ROM 1.66)
Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0

I replied to your post in the Vodafone forum assuming you were still on the stock 1.43 ROM, but if you are on 1.66 then I am not sure what to suggest as you mentioned that it happens in multiple areas which seem to be a fair way apart and therefore would be on different transmitters (unless you are unfortunate enough to be in several areas all suffering from faulty cell-towers).
I know mine drops a bar when I pick it up but not 2 to 3 and then to no signal...
Maybe you should contact HTC about a replacement? Dont bother with Vodafone as they'll offer you a Blackberry 9700 if they cant fix it...

SOunds faulty to me. There is sometimes a small drop in signal for me when the phoe is cupped in my hand, but not more than 1 bar, usually none.
I'd get on to your provider for a warranty replacement.

Nothing such here. And I'm in a low reception place here, seems it even does better than my previous Kaiser.

Seems that Vodafone is a bit of a crappy network in terms of its compatibility with phones! If it's not text messages staying in the outbox it's data disconnecting/not working and no picture messaging NOW rubbish signal....jeez. I've been on T-Mobile with the HD2 since it arrived in november and haven't had one single problem with texts, data, signal....anything. I've had two different handsets in that time too since I sold the first upgrade.
In all seriousness though I do also have a prototype pro.three (pre-release HD2) and that suffers from low signal/signal dropout so in this instance it seems that you have a faulty unit.
I do hear a lot of moaning Voda users on these forums though which makes me quite likely to steer clear when I get my upgrade in a few weeks.

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Vodafone thread - http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=48152&st=0
It doesn't look like its JUST my phone here...
Outside this problem is not half as bad.

Lots of people across the world are having problems with the SMS thing.
Its also not limited to the HD2 handset as I had it on Kaiser when I updated that handset to WM6.5

Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...

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Is the 2.07 radio much better? I'm currently using 2.06 at the moment...
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signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.

ardsar said:
signal reception seems better (vodafone) however a few including me have an isue of static noise when someone speaks. I have this on 2.07 and 2.08 radios - not sure if its network related. I'm using a custom rom, and have no choise but to use 2.07 or higher, unless i revert back to a previous rom.
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I've tried the 2.07 radio and its not noticably better
I've now made my own thread over at Vodafone... it'll be interesting to see what they have to say about it!
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=52093

If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.

pa49 said:
If you can flash ROMs try Leo Lite V2.2 WWE with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio.
I'm in a very patchy area and behind solar glass and the above setup gives me signal strength and stability better than any other ROM/radio combo or phone I have ever had. This includes many other HTC and Nokia phones.
I never seem to miss a call now and the SMS problemis gone although I believe that is partly to do with the cooked ROM setup.
Also I can pull in H and 3G signals that I could not before.
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Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM

have you checked that the battery cover is on correctly? there are to prongs on the inside of it that make it part of the arial

dan_t said:
Does the ROM actually play any part in this though or is it just the RADIO upgrade? I've just gone over to 2.08 but using the stock HTC 1.66 ROM
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The Rom affects the sms issue (I believe) and my current LeoLite ROM (now 2.3) shows no sms problem and sits well with the radio I mentioned as it unlocks the extra memory.
Addendum
There is a link with ROM and radio through the rilphone.dll that is cooked in to the ROMs.
e.g. The correct rilphone for T-mobileUK will assist in accessing the T-mobile network with the correct protocols required for the services on that network. And same would go for all other operators (who may or may not have their own rilphone file configured to their requirements). I am unaware of any signature that would differentiate between the files, however, it's safe to assume that a rilphone.dll extracted from a stock T-mobileUK ROM would be the appropriate one for their network access.
I haven't seen a lot of experimentation on this although I have tried out various files on the ROMs I have flashed without any real conclusion emerging.
The combination that I mention is just a solid setup that works well for me on my operators network in my location.

Question for HD2 roms

Hello,
A couple of questions I wouldn't mind u guys answering please..
I have updated the SPLon the HD2 I am on T-mobile UK network without issue.
Q2 Now with the amount of roms available which ones are compatible with t-mobile i.e normal operation? Reading through some threads it appears that T-mobile have restricted some functionality on the HD2.
So I am looking for a compatible rom, that unlocks the features and of course ensure phone stability.
my rom is 1.43.110.2(70315) WWE
radio version 2.04.50.22_2
Thanks in advance
Dave

there are no roms that are not compatible with any network.
the issues are generally that the data connection doesn't get set up correctly, but it's a breeze to set them up manually.

Ok thanks I will give it a go, any recommended version comes to mind?
thanks

personally, Duttys HG ROMs are sweet, the latest is linked on my signature

roms are a very personal thing. the one in my sig is my fave just like eddyos prefers dutty.
try them, see which you like and use it.

Great stuff,
I appreciate both of your inputs!!!
I am on a learning curve with all this, I have just had to reset my SPL back to default this afternoon which freaked me out as I have a screen problem with a LCD leak, and learned that HTC dont like customisations which will invalidate the gaurantee; but the SPL reload worked ok, and a perfectly described process on youtube thanks to this site and contributers.
I have only had this phone for two weeks. However, I am confident now with upgrading when I get my phone back.
Regards
Dave

ahh unlucky. still, at least you had a practice run eh? better luck next time!

[Q] .50 Radios on stock 1.66?

Right since this place has gone android crazy over the last few months, I thought I'd give it a go. Went through all the instructions, updated hspl to 2.08 updated radio to greater than 2.08. Ran android, boot screen shows all the boot up text then melts away into two lines, then....nothing (left it half hour just black screen and green flashing led). Anyway, reading though the 19900 posts on android I stumbled upon a post saying that to run android you need to flash a .50 radio not .51 What I want to know is as I am using the wwe stock 1.66 can I flash a .50 radio with no ill effects or will I have to flash a new rom as well?
If it means flashing a new rom then I'll just stick with WM as I've got my phone running nicely and haven't needed to mess about with it at all (to get it working!) for months

You can flash the Radio ROM only. As you are not using a TMOUS HD2 then there is no problem with bricking your phone.
I am currently using the 1.66WWE ROM and 2.10.50.08_2 Radio ROM.
I don't know how well this works with Android, as I like WinMo.

fred_up said:
You can flash the Radio ROM only. As you are not using a TMOUS HD2 then there is no problem with bricking your phone.
I am currently using the 1.66WWE ROM and 2.10.50.08_2 Radio ROM.
I don't know how well this works with Android, as I like WinMo.
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Ok cheers for that, will give it a go. Won't be using android as a day to day option, just want to try it out see what all the fuss is about.

Be careful: I tried THAT already (updating my radio on my 1.66-ROM Radio 2.06.51.07) to run Android but found out that all upper radios 2.08 and higher) from the radio-thread do partially not work on my HD2 (some of the basic functions Phone/WiFi/Wireless Router/HSPA etc. didn´t work anymore after upgrading).
So after flashing new radio CHECK EVERY function of radio if it´s working as before.
I had to go back to 2.06.51 to get my smooth running of my HD2 again with all Radio features working flawless.

troed said:
Be careful: I tried THAT already (updating my radio on my 1.66-ROM Radio 2.06.51.07) to run Android but found out that all upper radios 2.08 and higher) from the radio-thread do partially not work on my HD2 (some of the basic functions Phone/WiFi/Wireless Router/HSPA etc. didn´t work anymore after upgrading).
So after flashing new radio CHECK EVERY function of radio if it´s working as before.
I had to go back to 2.06.51 to get my smooth running of my HD2 again with all Radio features working flawless.
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Got to admit after flashing 2.09.51 yesterday it actually improved things, got hsdpa at home (4 bars as well) never had anything other than gprs as I live in an old quarry, lowest it has dropped to is 2bars of 3g so as far as dial up connectivity is am better off. Not had other issues with wifi, phone or messaging either, not tried bluetooth or wifi router yet but would assume that they are fine also. Obviously if things do start going ary I'll flash the original back
BTW android now boots and runs like lightining!

So I give it a last chance. Didn´t try 2.09.51 (goofed the line and thought it´s for TMOUS). Tx for the tip
Did You change rilphone.dll and if yes to which version ?

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Got to admit after flashing 2.09.51 yesterday it actually improved things, got hsdpa at home (4 bars as well) never had anything other than gprs as I live in an old quarry, lowest it has dropped to is 2bars of 3g so as far as dial up connectivity is am better off. Not had other issues with wifi, phone or messaging either, not tried bluetooth or wifi router yet but would assume that they are fine also. Obviously if things do start going ary I'll flash the original back
BTW android now boots and runs like lightining!
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Hi djingonthenet,
Can you confirm you have flashed the radio to 2.09.51 and not 2.09.50? Any issue observed so far?
I have the same configuration as your HD2 and would like to try the Andriod but worry that the radio may cause unknow issue to my HD2, eg phone,3g, or wifi, etc.

[Q] Do I have to restore to WM 6.5?

I had a nand build of android installed on my HD2, but through various circumstances that phone cracked in half. So, I bought another HD2 this time used and when I popped my SIM card in I noticed it didn't have very good service.
Nonetheless, I was excited to have a working phone again, so I rushed and installed android on it. Now I can hardly get service much less internet, and I've messed around with a bunch of radios and none have helped so I assume it's a problem with the rilphone.dll. Do I have to reset to WM 6.5 to change the rilphone.dll or is it possible on android?

rilphone.dll is a windows file, nothing to do with android, so yes, you would need to be running winmo, however all reports say you cant change it manually (well you can but it wont work) it needs to be cooked in using a kitchen.
In the 20 months ive been browsing the hd2 section, ive never seen any posts saying rilphone made any difference to reception problems.

In that case, any idea why two phones running identical software would get wildly different service?

could be damaged / faulty / dismounted aerial inside, , ever taken any hard knocks?

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In that case, any idea why two phones running identical software would get wildly different service?
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Maybe they got different radio roms?
sp pls check your radio version.
Settings->About Phone: Baseband-Version:
Generally version 2.15.50.14 works best for most of the users.

j4n87 said:
Maybe they got different radio roms?
sp pls check your radio version.
Settings->About Phone: Baseband-Version:
Generally version 2.15.50.14 works best for most of the users.
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i second that, when i was on winmo and changed over to android my signal wasnt at its best untill i flashed new version of radio....
check this site RADIO (CLICK HERE)