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Bad reception/signal after ROM upgrade? Try Murata Radio ROM!

Here are the files which brought some people's Touch Cruise back to life.
Warning: Don't forget to HardSPL before using these!!!
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This is all the stuff you need:
Murata Radio-ONLY ROM:
http://rapidshare.com/files/141524518/Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar
Custom RUU (by udK) to avoid hardreset after flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376119
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Optional links for reading if you are interested:
Original shipped ROM by Murata Electronics:
Warning: This ROM will change your language to Russian, if you have only reception problems, use Radio-ONLY ROM above!
http://rapidshare.com/files/141527497/RUU_Polaris_HTC_RUS_1.25.411.1_radio_sign_25.65.30.04_1.58.21.23_polaris_murata_Ship.exe

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if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
mavvy4ever said:
Hi guys,
I stumbled across this thread... and it seems that there are already a few people who tried to flash the Russian ROM and after that flushing a WWE ROM without radio and they reported that their Polaris was working again after that...
I am currently a little too anxious to try out myself with my Orbit 2 but I thought it would be an idea to point this possible solution in a separate thread and for those who have tried it, please vote so we have a better overview if this is a fix or not...
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I tried the Radio-only first (after I did the HardSPL flash) but I still get only 2 bars 3G signal strength. Only outdoors it's 4 bars and when walking it's changing between 3 and 4 bars. 2G (GSM) is always at 4 bars inside and outside.
After that I flashed the complete Russian ROM but everything stays the same. Also after hardresetting the device. Even after flashing it again and again :|
Now I think I tried every option which I found on this xda forums several times... maybe any1 has another idea?
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No need for apologies well it gives me a better feeling that my Orbit2 is not really that bad, though I remember I had better reception in original state. Currently I'm trying to figure out why TomTom does not get any satellites. I have updated latest data with QuickGPS and chose Built-In GPS...
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took about half an hour to get the initial first gps fix... but from then on, it gets the first fix within 3-5 seconds... nice

its working again
Hi guys, i flashed the radio "Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar" and since its back to full strength!
i also lost all my data cuz updating the radio also hard resets ur device;-)good luck folks and dont throw ur polaris away!

Works greaaat ! Thank you so much guys!!
Ok here is my story... I bought a Cruise but the first thing I did was to unlock it (without testing it before!). So when I tried it I thought "what this piece of ****... the reception is so bad!!" but thought it was normal so I was already thinking about selling it on eBay Then I found this forum....
I've just flashed it with Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23 and it works like a charm now, so thank you very much!
ps: before finding this post I tried each rom radio I found! thx again!

You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!

superduper said:
if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
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Yeah I extensively tested my Orbit 2 this weekend. I think I have no more problems now with it. So my vote to my own poll is actually wrong now... should be "... my 3G reception is back to normal and at full strength"
Thanks to everyone involved on Xda Dev!

At home with original rom I had 2 bars, after to Raramomo SFR and 1.64.08.21
still 2/1 bars in 3G, I have tested Murata and always 2/1 bars, so I have decided to keep 1.64.02.21 because I known its battery's drain and I known nothing about Murata.
Thanks a lot for you works

Murata radio is a life saver for wm6.1..awesome full 4 bars reception...highly recemmended for anyone have reception problems after updated their radio ..awesome

Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.

Heyyooooo
Thank you VERY VERY VERY MUCH guys
My Polaris was born again

SecureGSM said:
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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So all new radios should be reconstructed from begining with these or similar settings?

harmsuploe said:
You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!
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Great news, but too bad my dealer hadn't heard about it when I picked mine up. Can you please point to where you downloaded that rom and what you used to flash it? I tried the first of the two links above and the RUU is unreadable (??????)...
Thanks.

SecureGSM said:
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
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My question is, why my (I got it early, I guess I have an old model) Polaris came shipped with 1.58.23.21 where the Murata Radio reads version number 1.58.21.23 which is lower and thus I assume older?

SecureGSM said:
Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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I think you are incorrect, I had other radio work on my polaris for little while in 3g before they dont work, I think it is got something to do with mty

Thank you for the great discovery. This Murata thing is working! I wanted to go with this device to the warranty, but i said to give this a shot, because my TC had the same simptoms discribed (only that i tested in GSM, i use 3g only for net).
Where i had signal between 70-80% (2-3 lines) now i have 100% (i use this percentage because i have batterystatus program that tells me in percentage). Where one hour ago my TC didn't discover any signal now it has 70% (2-3 lines).
I tested with dslreports.com/mspeed before and after:
GSM/GPRS: 29kbits before - 40kbits after
3g: 141kbits before - 200kbits after
My device information:
ROM VERSION: 1.25.405.1 WWE
ROM dare: 12/11/07
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23 (it writes the SAME version i had before, no murata no nothing)
Protocol version: 25.65.30.04W
I have to mention one thing: on my box (the box with the htc touch cruise in it), where it has the bar code, it writes Rev. A (from Revision A). I think maybe all devices with revision A will benefit from this radio and other revision not... please specify what it writes on your package.
Thanks again! Now I can say I am sattisfied with my investment (If you look in my posts I baught a s-h htc tytn I with battery drain problems... now is for sale for just 180 Euro in Romania... i can ship it if someone wants it)

thanks you for your help.
I had a bad reception in GSM mode.
I downloaded this rom.
Now in my room my reception is full (after 2-3 lines).
And my touch cruise detect a 3g area (no before this radio rom).
I try in my office this morning (no signal with the original rom).
I'am enjoy and this Rom resolve my problem.

Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.

yrsmart said:
Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.
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did you buy "second-hand" so it might have been already used with a rom and been restored to "original" state before sold to you?
you can overwrite the rom even if it has the same version number.
i have no battery issues with the murata radio only rom.

Problems with Radio Reception

hey,
i've changed my network provider a few days ago. before the change and also now i'm using the Duttys Topaz WM6.5 Leo R0 WWE rom.
since i've changed the provider, i have problems with my radio reception. when i'm inside a building i mostly do not have any radio reception at all.
i've also tried another radio version and at the moment i've installed the original htc rom. still the situation is unimproved.
do you know why?
thanks for ur answers!

If you have changed provider...and your phone is the same, suddenly your network reception falls down.... then it's obvious what is causing the problem I suppose. Your operator doesn't have a proper coverage.

Yup, It's almost certainly your network
You've done all that you can to diagnose the issue you have; Essentially, you've got poor coverage compared to your old provider.
I'd contact them soon (today, if possible) and make them aware of the situation. If you're not happy, you can either spend money on a range extender (you may not be able to install these in your workplace), or change provider back. Call them sooner rather than later, though. They may have a small time period (in the UK called a "Cooling Off" period) before contracts become binding, allowing you to test services and make up your mind before you're tied in to the contract.

Fedex_cain said:
hey,
i've changed my network provider a few days ago. before the change and also now i'm using the Duttys Topaz WM6.5 Leo R0 WWE rom.
since i've changed the provider, i have problems with my radio reception. when i'm inside a building i mostly do not have any radio reception at all.
i've also tried another radio version and at the moment i've installed the original htc rom. still the situation is unimproved.
do you know why?
thanks for ur answers!
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Did you test in the same building with other phones? Unfortunately, it seems that the diamond 2 don't receive in areas with low signal ...

luigug said:
Did you test in the same building with other phones? Unfortunately, it seems that the diamond 2 don't receive in areas with low signal ...
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yes I did. my friends, who have the same provider, have a really high reception whereas I have none. so it can't be the coverage of the provider..
I don't know what to do :/

If it is not due to the hardware, HTC could solve the problem with a forthcoming version of radio or Rom.
I hope that this solution will be implemented with the next official ROM WM 6.5!

Hi
If others have good reception and yours is none with the same providers something is wrong somewhere,the HTC Touch Diamond 2 isn't that bad for reception, I've found quite good in very marginal areas.
You need to check your phone isn't set to just 3G, but Auto. It might be you have no 3G coverage but your phone is set not to switch to 2G which other phones you are comparing against are using.
To check this go to settings and click the Communications option, scroll down to Band and then make sure the settings are Auto and Auto. Has that helped.
Regards
Phil

[Q] Radio

I'm on the 3 network in Australia and I find my reception is quite poor.
I understand 3's network coverage isn't as amazing as Telstra or Optus, but it is meant to be strong around the CBD, which mine isnt. Other friends on the network using non-htc handsets have perfect reception in places I don't. This leads me to believe it might be my radio. Even when roaming reception will drop out occasionally.
I have Radio-3.22.20.17. Are there any other Australian 3 users here? What radio are you using? How is your reception? Would a 6.35 radio be better? I've searched XDA, Google, etc and couldn't find decent radio information for the Magic, only found some for the Hero.
Thanks,

Anyone able to help?

i don't know much about the radio side of things, but is there anything else that could be affecting your reception?
do you have a cover on your phone?
does reception improve if it's removed?
have you contacted 3 to see if there might be a fault with your phone?

I have a cover, but reception isn't affected with it on or off. I've also had the phone checked and its fine.
I want to test a new radio/rom to see if it improves but I don't want to go back to Android 1.5 and there are no 100% working 2.1 roms, so I'll have to wait.

Are there any threads similar to this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563757

Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.

lagu805 said:
Hi there,
I'm from Australia as well. I used to use the new radio to be able to flash the cursorsense rom and it works great. Inside my office, most of the time I didnt get any reception at all but with the new radio, it did.
i switched back to the old radio to use another rom though. (at that time, rom for the new radio is not that much). at the moment, my mobile phone is roaming
you might want to try the new radio (I believe this takes more space than the old radio as my internal space just disappeared). however be careful with that, i think it's the error in flashing of radio n spl that can cause you to brick your phone.
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I ended up trying CursorSense. I hate Sense UI so I removed it, but I didn't notice any signal difference. I also ran Before and After speedtests numerous times and averaged them and the new radio was slower for me

so sorry to hear that...
well, at least i finally found someone from australia using magic and a member of xda as well..

I've not used my Magic on 3, but I can relate to your signal issues on their network. The only contract phone I ever had was with them and I regretted it, call drops and poor signal no matter where I was, I used to work in the stock exchange building, you'd think a phone would have awesome signal there but I'd be stuck on 1-2 bars Sorry to say it, but I think you can blame 3, not your phone.

Improve X1 Reception (without flashing rom)

Hey guys, came across this interesting technique the other day....
Been living in an area with poor 3G so tempted to try this but i still have warranty on my phone so i want to void it incase of the cracks, keyboard problems and other known bugs that plague this phone.
Has anyone tried this? Can you guys give us a brief of the results?
blog.whitesites.
com/How-to-Increase-Reception-on-Sony-Xperia-X1__633958291637656250_blog.
htm
(sorry about the spaces in the URL guys... cannot post url on new threads because of spam reasons)

I've seen the blog...
but i did the regular sony update on my phone yesterday (purchased my xperia x1i in july) and it seems to have improven the signal stregth like i saw outlined somewhere on the internet

hmmm.... i also did a Radio update from 1.14 to 1.16... still no change in reception. Maybe horrible reception area....

etalocohc said:
hmmm.... i also did a Radio update from 1.14 to 1.16... still no change in reception. Maybe horrible reception area....
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probably your reception area. ^^
but higher radio-version doesn't automatically equal better reception. it depends on your provider and your local conditions. for some 1.16 is better, for some 1.14, for some even 1.12 (or is it 1.10?). there's also a hacked 1.17 from *some other htc-device* around. (since it's hacked, the version-number will still show 1.16 after flashing)
you have to try them all out, monitor your reception-quality (cell & gps) as well as the battery-drain it gives you.
using the rilphone according to radio-number is always a good idea, but: 1.16-rilphone breaks messaging and 1.17 doesn't exist for the x1. so you have to use 1.14-rilphone for radios 1.14 and above. (never use radios & rilphones posted in other device-threads!!!)

[Q] Please Please Help me on the bad reception issues

sorry if I'm posting this again
but please I'm about to rip my precious hd2 to pieces because of the reception issues
see it happens like this
I'm standing INSIDE my home
watching the signal
as it goes from full to half to none to service un available
all of this happens while I'm standing watching my phones signal dangles
and I cant make calls longer than one minute and then the call is dropped
that is also while inside my home
when standing outside
the reception is most of the times fine
but the call quality is below average
there is drop outs and weird sounds
I tried different radios (2.10 and 2.12 and 2.15(stock))
I tried different ROMS (windows 6.5 and 7 and android)
I never dropped the phone
maybe the only thing I did was removing the battery from the phone alot because I was trying to flash android when I first got my phone
please Admins and Experts in this great forum
help me cuz I'm about to go crazy
my phone is a T-Mobile HD2 with a yellow reset button
current ROM : Rafdroid HD2
Current Radio : 2.15
Current state : Hunting for network and draining off the battery
thanks in advance

What was it like on original ROM !
you could try a T-Mobile Radio & matching rilphone.dll or flash newest t-mobile ROM complete with radio & test to see if firmware issue or hardware.
Is reception in/near your home known to be a bit weak ?

Aint the rilphone.dll a windows based file? If so how would that have an affect on android? Im also having a signal drop issue
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

Well rilphone.dll is used in conjuction with the radio firmware, when in android it will not use the rilphone.dll so could cause issues for some users pending on network ect ect !
You are using droid ROM with Radio package designed for WM,just my thoughts.

thanks for replying
can you please post the links to a stock t-mobile rom and radio and a compatible rilphone.dll?
but I didn't have the chance to test it under the original win mo
but the reception was fine when I first bought it and I was using a non primary sim card in it
so I didn't really notice
but I travelled to another country
and started using it along with another sim from the same carrier in a nokia phone
the nokia gives full 3G coverage
while the HD2 is hunting for the signal
so any thoughts ??

I thought Android ROMs are known to have issues with 3G !? check thread of your ROM as may have info on this.
Have a look in HD2 wicki if you want stock ROM.
I use my HD2 worldwide, Thailand, Singapore, China, Japan, England, USA on Energy ROM (Dinik version) & radio 2.12.50 & reception works normally with 3G available when using SIM on 3G capable networks.
Android is still a bit buggy for some users & to be honest Android does not seem worth the hassle to me as a good WM6.5.x build set up well is far better.

thanks Mister B for the advice
I flashed the latest version of the stock WinMo on my device and it seems like nothing happened
still the buggy reception issues
seems like the antenna inside the device is not sensitive enough to receive proper signal because when I go to the roof of my house the signal is fine
but when I stay inside signal drops and comes back almost regularly
I just cant belive that this is a hardware problem
because since I got my phone I never dropped it
maybe the only thing I did was removing the battery while the phone was on a lot of times....
??? im so confused ???

I would like to add another thing
when I put my fingers on the bottom right corner of the device ( right behind the on off key ) the reception works flawlessly
and as soon as I remove my fingers it goes back the way it was
so this is a hardware problem right?

What was the ROM number & what radio was included in ROM ?
If you have warranty or insurance you could try getting a replacement.
Looking like it could be antena related !

RUU_Leo_S_HTC_WWE_3.14.405.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship
that's the rom installed for now
and I don't have insurance or warranty
I double checked that with htc care
I'm really really sad about this
..........

when i first got it i think it was working fine and i was flashing a bunch of different roms. then like a switch when i installed one random rom "core cell android nand" it had really bad reception.
it doesn't matter what i cant fix it, install or flash, i have crappy reception. i have put different sim cards where the "original phone had good reception" and still no change. i put my sim card in another phone and it has a good signal. i also tested it in a another hd2 and it 1whorked fine.
cant send it in, i bought it off of somebody.