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Good day to all!
First of all let me introduce myself. I'm David and I'm an executive in a transcription company in the Philippines. I recently bought a Dopod 838 Pro to aid me in organizing myself and to keep my productivity up. So far, it's doing a marvelous job! Totally worth the investment, I might add.
Now on to my issues (don't we all have them? ). I'm very keen on keeping myself updated with the latest software especially when it comes to bug fixes and patches. I've read through almost half the Hermes threads on the boards and I have several questions that the threads have not answered.
1. I'm very curious regarding WM6, my Dopod has WM5 on it and I'm wondering if its worth upgrading to 6. Would you experienced users recommend me upgrading?
2. I also heavily use my Dopod as a media center, I access the internet through wifi, hsdpa, edge and even 3g. I even play movies on it while I'm out of town on business using TCPMP. Oh, lets not forget MP3s. I also can't go through the day without using Word, Excel and Powerpoint. Will upgrading my phone's ROM and consequently its OS cause problems in this regard?
3. If you do recommend me updating my ROM, Which ROM would you choose for me knowing how I use my Dopod.
4. I've read through the warnings regarding flashing ROMs. I've flashed a few hardware before, DVD-writers, PC BIOS and even modems and routers, they were all successful. Now, since it represents a significant amount of cash, and I dont want to "brick" my Dopod, is the risk of changing ROMS worth it?
5. I am a control freak (if you did not already notice reading this exceptionally long intro to a thread), I want to be able to control all if not most of the aspects of my Dopod. Again, which ROM/program would you recommend.
That's just about it. I would really appreciate your answers guys. Thank you in advance and allow me to say that your work on this thread is highly appreciated! Blessings to all!

If you depend on your PDA for work then I'd recommend to play it safe and wait with the upgrade to WM6 until HTC/Dopod releases the official version.
I use my PDA at least fifty percent for work. I tried WM6 but had a few issues, the most serious one with Bluetooth and loosing connection to my headset and then the phone refusing to reconnect unless I soft reset it! (Not very nice when this happens in the middle of a phone call with a customer.)

1. yes
2.no
3.check the latest LVSW, or one of it's derivatives, like elf, sleuth or V3pg
4.as long as you follow MrVanx's guide you'll be fine.
5.Sleuth's LVSW derivative, but that's just my opninion. Any of the above ROMs would work

davidlleno said:
Good day to all!
1. I'm very curious regarding WM6, my Dopod has WM5 on it and I'm wondering if its worth upgrading to 6. Would you experienced users recommend me upgrading?
I have seen this question posted 2-3 times in the last couple weeks. You might wanna try saerching through the threads for more opinions.
2. I also heavily use my Dopod as a media center, I access the internet through wifi, hsdpa, edge and even 3g. I even play movies on it while I'm out of town on business using TCPMP. Oh, lets not forget MP3s. I also can't go through the day without using Word, Excel and Powerpoint. Will upgrading my phone's ROM and consequently its OS cause problems in this regard?
Media issues are generally uncommon in "these" (custom) ROM upgrades. Its usually communication bugs that you have to deal with.
3. If you do recommend me updating my ROM, Which ROM would you choose for me knowing how I use my Dopod.
Black2.5 is stable, so is Sleuths Derivative. If you new to flashing choose a rom that has already been around and has had the bugs worked out.
4. I've read through the warnings regarding flashing ROMs. I've flashed a few hardware before, DVD-writers, PC BIOS and even modems and routers, they were all successful. Now, since it represents a significant amount of cash, and I dont want to "brick" my Dopod, is the risk of changing ROMS worth it?
5 months ago, yes. Now, not as much. Make SURE you read up on HardSPL before you flash, and use the mrvanxguide
5. I am a control freak (if you did not already notice reading this exceptionally long intro to a thread), I want to be able to control all if not most of the aspects of my Dopod. Again, which ROM/program would you recommend.
Same as before. Theres lots of little cool customizations that you can do, but a ROM upgrade is not going to be more customizable than WM5.
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Hope that helps. Good Luck!

Great replies guys. Thanks.
I've already flashed my device with the ELF WM6 LVSW derivative. Works great. just has a few refresh problems. Today screen does not apply changes I've made without restarting the device, also contacts on the sim card remain visible even after checking the "show contacts only".

Some issues with Jasjam

All help is well come.
I brought a Jasjam and there are some issues that I need to solve.
- Screen goes white sometimes, but I figured to turn it off and turn back on and it fixes it. Is there a better way of doing it? Upgrading?
- I run windows 7 and it says that driver failed when connecting Jasjam to windows 7 to sync, unless i connect and restart the phone, then it works.
- I wanna upgrade to WM6, but all the articles I read has too much info, which is just not user friendly. What are the best roms out there, or you think is the good?
Cheers

XdesdX,
Microsoft does have an official Windows 7 RC Support Forum located here http://tinyurl.com/9fhdl5 . It is supported by product specialists as well as engineers and support teams. You may want to check the threads available there for additional assitance and feedback.
Jessica
Microsoft Windows Client Team

xdesdx said:
All help is well come.
I brought a Jasjam and there are some issues that I need to solve.
- Screen goes white sometimes, but I figured to turn it off and turn back on and it fixes it. Is there a better way of doing it? Upgrading?
- I run windows 7 and it says that driver failed when connecting Jasjam to windows 7 to sync, unless i connect and restart the phone, then it works.
- I wanna upgrade to WM6, but all the articles I read has too much info, which is just not user friendly. What are the best roms out there, or you think is the good?
Cheers
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I run Windows 7 as well and my Jasjam synced just fine. It was on WM5, and it worked fine even after upgrading to WM6.1. I think you should try hard-resetting the device and/or upgrading to a newer ROM and see if that fixes it (and your other problems)
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I haven't had too much experience with the Jasjam as well, but as far as I can see, the CRCinAU ROMs are one of the best in terms of speed and stability. There are also other good ROMs out there, like DarkVision's and Schap's, and some older ones like Pays, but I prefer CRC's as it simply is the fastest there is (If someone can prove me wrong, please be my guest!)
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To start off with, first look in the wiki. Now in the Wiki, the first thing you should read is "Hermes for beginners". Keep the Hermes Wikitionary open incase you come across an unknown term.
Next step is to upgrade the SPL on your device to Hard-SPL. Go through all the steps, and if it fails, recheck if you'd done everything right, and if its still failing, you might need to CID Unlock it. (Once again, let me remind you of the Wikitionary page that you've kept open in the background which you can use to refer when you come across unknown terms!)
I highly recommend upgrading the Radio as well, especially if you want to use 3G. Radio updates affect battery life, call quality and network connectivity in general. I personally had good experiences with 1.47.30.10 but some prefer 1.54.30.10. Check the stickies in the Hermes forums to help you decide which radio might suit you, and try out which one works the best for you. Newer isn't necessarily better, it also depends on your network provider so use a version that works best for *you*.
Finally, check the Hermes Upgrade Guide for details on how to upgrade the ROM. (There are also guides for the Radio and SPL)
Whenever you flash a new ROM don't forget to hard-reset afterwards. If you're upgrading from a cooked ROM to a different one, flash the OEM ROM first (links usually present in the thread of the cooked ROM) before you flash the new cooked ROM.
Also, for any type of flashing (OS/RADIO/SPL etc) I highly recommend the SD Card method as chances of failure are lesser.
Good luck!

cheers guys, im going to use some of the things that you have mentioned, and I will let you know of the outcome.

hii there..i am recently running 6.1 pn9b1 rom on my imate jasjam.i want to know if any 6.5 version is available for imate jasjam??

Yes, just look in the Hermes forums under "Hermes Mobile 6". Infact, nearly all the ROMs in the first page you see will be for WM6.5.
Personally though I'm going to stick to WM6.1 as its performance is much better on the Hermes.

vodafone Nederlands, 3G connection problem

I'm looking for some advice concerning 3G connection from vodafone in The Nederlands. Right after putting new simcard into my HD I started getting this annoying:
"dialled...
cannot connect for an unknown reason..."
error every time some application tried to get a 3G connection. So decided to put some new cooked ROM based on 6.5. My old one was almost 1 year old and based on 6.1.
So picked up the new Laurentius en voila, it fixed the problem.
Played around a bit with this new rom and decided to check out the XannyTech Grid 1.2.5. Played around with it for one day. Had to soft reset a couple of times cause of HTC messaging that was freezing everytime it tried to read all the txt messages that I restored plus I played around with different tweaks from Advanced Confing etc.
Anyway after all that I soft-reseted for the last time, started up an Opera and bam... connection error again. Exactly as the one before. Did a hard reset, nothing. Same problem all the time.
Anybody experienced something similar ? What do you think it could be ? Should I upgrade my radio ? My current one is 1.13. I was thinking about upgrading to 1.17 but it's very much dependent on a service provider and place so I'm wondering if there's anybody from Nederlands who could give me advice on that, maybe there's some specific version that is the best for Voda ?
thanks for support

Running vodafone in NL here and have to say im having no problems.
Been running on the 1.14 since it was available and just last week switched to the 1.17 and thats running a bit better than the 1.14.
Also i've been running a lot of roms from this place and never experienced the issue you describe.
Suppose it might be the mix of 1.13 and the rillphone dll's found in the varying roms you tried. Since the radio and rillphone dll need to be compatible and support each others functions this might cause your issues.
So concluding my guess would be to try the 1.17 radio.

Yes, as explained in the Android Thread, Voda NL has trouble with their 3G Network or Internet Connection. http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63198/vodafone-kampt-opnieuw-met-landelijke-storing-datanetwerk.html

What the HELL has this to do with Blackstone ROM development!? Come on.
Please mods, close this.

ok, looks like I should check the voda website next time. I'll upgrade the radio anyway since lots of people say that it works good for them. Thanks for help

motoko said:
ok, looks like I should check the voda website next time.
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No kidding?
Next topic is about your monthly costs are to high @ Voda?

MOD EDIT
Moved to general discussion forum as not related to rom development

@FallenSpartan
Thank you, I was too fast with my choice of discussion place, will pay more attention next time
@SeniorMembers
Looks like you should get some green tea or a massage, I heard that it helps with stress... but come to think about it I'm not very surprised by your reactions since you're probably dutch...

Dear TS,
Just look at any random dutch techsite or just contact Vodafone...
For example see:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63198/vo...et-landelijke-storing-datanetwerk-update.html

Fixed some instability on my HD2

Just thought I would share my experiences to see if it benefitted others.
I have a Vodafone UK HD2 which came with 1.43ROM.
I used HSPL1 and extracted the NBH from the official WWE 1.66ROM and applied that to my handset and I've tried a couple of radio's and am now on 2.09.51
With the above setup I was getting quite a bit of instability still where I would sometimes have to reset the phone a couple of times a day. Calls would sometimes crash the phone, etc it just seemed buggy and instable but just about useable.
Then I saw HSPL2 and didnt think much of it until the other day when I started to look at it and noticed you could pick different HSPL's and spotted 1.66 in the list. Brain says to me you've got 1.66ROM and 1.42SPL. Back on the Kaiser the wrong SPL with a ROM could make it unstable... I wonder...
So I proceeded to install HSPL2 and selected 1.66HSPL option. Since then (2 1/2 days) my phone has been stable, quick and has not needed a reboot except for once with the data dropout issue (which I reckon is Windows/SenseUI App related).
Also battery life seems to have been extended as well.
Its like a completely different handset to me as I was started to get frustrated with it before this but now I am happy again.
Any comments are welcome.

Hi,
It's Darrin from the VF forum, interested to try the 1.66 HSPL, can you plop it ontop of the the existing one, or do you have to re-install everything from scratch?
Any chance you can point me in the right direction?
Cheers
Darrrin

sounds interesting thanks for the post starfury
makes sense aswell
at the end of the day youve always been booting a phone with a 1.66 system with a bootloader made for a different system.
i would try this right now but im using my warranty rights for an exchange atm but will try soon =]
thanks!

pastypacker said:
Hi,
It's Darrin from the VF forum, interested to try the 1.66 HSPL, can you plop it ontop of the the existing one, or do you have to re-install everything from scratch?
Any chance you can point me in the right direction?
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yes you can change spl and it won't affect your rom. download hspl 2 from rom development section, run it as administrator and choose which spl to instal.(choose one with hspl not 0000 of course)

I've been running without HSDPA for a little bit and recently switched it back on and the device locked up twice in a matter of hours. Switched it off again and its fine again.
I cant imagine that Vodafone UK havent implemented HSDPA properly so maybe there is an issue with the HSDPA protocol in the firmware?

the 2.051.08_3 radio will not work on the telestra hd2, using it on USA AT&T 3.5G, will it?

poulosjr said:
the 2.051.08_3 radio will not work on the telestra hd2, using it on USA AT&T 3.5G, will it?
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How is that even relevant to the thread?

[Q] Non-n00b assistance required for running Android on the HD2

Hello all,
I have an O2 UK HD2 and I am trying to port across to Android. I already own a Dell Streak running 2.1 and i'd like 2.2 on my HD2.
I've read through a lot of post and believe I know enough to do this - but I am having recurring issues which I cannot seem to get around.
Before I got serious with this, I simply flashed a high version number radio and jumped right into the first android build I could download. The issues were the robotic voice and I cannot get an internet connection (although I have the 'H' icon continuously).
I read up, did some research and followed lots of instructions.
So far i've downloaded several 'android friendly' WinMo ROMS:
Energy.Leo.29005.Sense2.5.Dec.13
Energy.Leo.28244.Sense2.5.MaxSense.Nov.16
Miri_Steve0007_Elegancia_V1.0_CHT2_FINAL
Miri_Steve0007_EleganciaMaxSense_V5.0_FINAL
I have the following radios:
2.10.50.19_2
2_10_50_26
2_11_50_26
2_12_50_02_2
2_15_50_14
And the following android's:
FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2
SuperRAM_Froyo_v1
I've not got the time to swap and change radio/rom/android build 25 times just to find a working version - but needless to say the amount of swapping i've done so far is providing no change to my issues above.
I want my internet to work and I want no robot voice.
Does anyone know, from the list above, what selection of the 3 items do I need to get this to work once and for all?
Also, i'd prefer to be using the semi-recent stock ROM for O2 HD2 as I don't like custom ROMs, has anyone got android working on the stock O2 ROM?
Thanks in advance
Dan

i always ran mdeejay builds and never had the robotic voice, i also had a stock rom and 2.15 radio. i hope that helps.

caseyman4285 said:
i always ran mdeejay builds and never had the robotic voice, i also had a stock rom and 2.15 radio. i hope that helps.
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same here.
Just a suggestion, try this mix (works for me giving 3-6mA standby):
Dutty v11 (Christmas ROM)
2.12.50.xx
mdeejay revolution 1.7
everything works.

Thank-you both.
I've just started a download of the 3.14 stock ROM build, as i've got a network .cab that should install my O2 network settings for me.
The lack of internet connectivity means the phone is useless in android mode, so i'm going to give it one last try once i've upgraded my stock ROM and see if I can't get it working. I doubt I will though, but at least i'll have the most up to date WM ROM going.
I assume your net connections simply 'worked'?

I don't think you need a stock Tom, but you definitely need different builds.
The froyostone 3.2 is a discontinued build and likely doesn't have the latest kernels, wrappers, patches etc that have greatly improved many peoples android experience.
on the other hand, superram is highly beta, and is in the process of being revised and improved by darkstone.
Basically you hit both ends of the spectrum in terms of maturity. Try a couple of other builds and see what happens. I recommend going with a build that uses hastarin 8.5+ as the kernel, buy only because for some reason mdjs kernels have never worked for me. Other people say very good things about it though.
One thing you should pay special attention to is the changelog. Usually this will indicate how far along (and how often) the build is being updated.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I know the stock ROM isn't a requirement, in fact i'm pretty sure it's almost detrimental - but i've spent 3 days faffing around with this and i'm literally having to go back to WinMo with nothing to show for my troubles.
Basically i'm upgrading to 3.14 now and trying android one last time, knowing full well it's probably not going to work but still, can't help trying can it. If it fails, at least i'm on the newest WinMo build, and i've still got my Dell Streak with a pending 2.2 upgrade at some point this week.

dkl_uk said:
Hello all,
I have an O2 UK HD2 and I am trying to port across to Android. I already own a Dell Streak running 2.1 and i'd like 2.2 on my HD2.
I've read through a lot of post and believe I know enough to do this - but I am having recurring issues which I cannot seem to get around.
Before I got serious with this, I simply flashed a high version number radio and jumped right into the first android build I could download. The issues were the robotic voice and I cannot get an internet connection (although I have the 'H' icon continuously).
I read up, did some research and followed lots of instructions.
So far i've downloaded several 'android friendly' WinMo ROMS:
Energy.Leo.29005.Sense2.5.Dec.13
Energy.Leo.28244.Sense2.5.MaxSense.Nov.16
Miri_Steve0007_Elegancia_V1.0_CHT2_FINAL
Miri_Steve0007_EleganciaMaxSense_V5.0_FINAL
I have the following radios:
2.10.50.19_2
2_10_50_26
2_11_50_26
2_12_50_02_2
2_15_50_14
And the following android's:
FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2
SuperRAM_Froyo_v1
I've not got the time to swap and change radio/rom/android build 25 times just to find a working version - but needless to say the amount of swapping i've done so far is providing no change to my issues above.
I want my internet to work and I want no robot voice.
Does anyone know, from the list above, what selection of the 3 items do I need to get this to work once and for all?
Also, i'd prefer to be using the semi-recent stock ROM for O2 HD2 as I don't like custom ROMs, has anyone got android working on the stock O2 ROM?
Thanks in advance
Dan
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As far as stock, check out my set up. As far as wifi; it may be your APN and DNS settings, in any build when you change builds it changes settings.

deadmansink said:
As far as stock, check out my set up. As far as wifi; it may be your APN and DNS settings, in any build when you change builds it changes settings.
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Hi, the internet issues are with the network not a WiFi router. The internet simply refuses to work, even though I have the 'H' icon.

dkl_uk said:
Hi, the internet issues are with the network not a WiFi router. The internet simply refuses to work, even though I have the 'H' icon.
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That's why I mentioned the APN settings

I wouldn't be at all surprised if you went into your APN settings and found GiffGaff selected.

johncmolyneux said:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you went into your APN settings and found GiffGaff selected.
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Agreed with that, I've had a couple of builds that gave me no data, it was the provider settings that it selected in the first setup sequence. you can manually change them (the o2 webpage should have them, or try some of the o2 one from here: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist) and you should be golden.

Try creating new APNs, deleting old ones
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Agreed with that, I've had a couple of builds that gave me no data, it was the provider settings that it selected in the first setup sequence. you can manually change them (the o2 webpage should have them, or try some of the o2 one from here: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist) and you should be golden.
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I can second that. I've had problems with numerous builds and APN settings. I personally found (after a lot of frustration) that double checking the the settings was not enough, rather I needed to add completely new APNs using the info from my provider. Apparently some of the settings were different when the APNs were added manually than the default ones (MCC, MNC?), which were not specified by the provider and I therefore could not check if correct with the original APNs, if you know what I mean. As for builds, I personally recommend JDMS or HD2ONE for a good combination of speed, reliability and functionality; I personally like some of the CyanogenMod features like the power bar in the status bar, menu button to unlock, etc. Good luck!

I'm currently trying out Ginger HD2 (Gingerbread themed build, but still 2.2). That was set to GiffGaff at first, but there were a couple of O2 ones in there and the first choice worked for me. I've had this in a couple of other builds too. I guess some builds come with plenty of APNs, and some come with none.
Definitely start there though.

sounds familure.im using energy Leo rom and a 2.15.50 radio and an mdj desire hd build,that work fine now,just make sure you disable htc sence in the winmo before you boot android,see if that works

Hi guys
Thanks for the replies above.
It would appear the Android builds I was using weren't giving me this 'APN' setup option, ironically I only just installed a build now that gives me the popup once it's read my SIM card to select a network - so now I know what you mean by APN, I think.
Anyway, i'm glad to report that I have stock 3.14WWE and an Android build w/sense working perfectly (I can't remember the name but it's none of the builds I listed in the OP), albeit if left overnight, has become a little laggy, but I don't care as a quick reboot sorted it this morning.
Thankyou all for your responses.