Just got my Xoom from this deal!!!!
1 day shipping delivered before noon as promised. =)
Hope you all get yours soon too!
Also, I forgot to place the order for the free case. What are the odds I can call CS and have it shipped since I purchased during the promo? Anyone else have luck? And what wording did you use if your were successful. Thanks!
And to the guy who posted the thread about this deal - Thanks, you really did help this community flourish. =)
Hitorii said:
Just got my Xoom from this deal!!!!
1 day shipping delivered before noon as promised. =)
Hope you all get yours soon too!
Also, I forgot to place the order for the free case. What are the odds I can call CS and have it shipped since I purchased during the promo? Anyone else have luck? And what wording did you use if your were successful. Thanks!
And to the guy who posted the thread about this deal - Thanks, you really did help this community flourish. =)
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No offense, but you couldn't have posted this in one of the 25% threads such as this? As to your case question, it has been asked in that thread the I just posted. One person was able to, some others were not able to get the case, you can call and try, but you already got an awesome deal.
40 pages + of thread and information is hard to salvage, but appreciate the proper post etiquette.
Just wanted to let everyone know they are shipping and getting received. If mods feel this thread is useless then feel free to delete =)
Thanks for the know about the case. I wasn't going to push it but thought I'd ask.
FedEx or UPS??? I'm still waiting.. 2 Day delivery ordered on the 24th..
Hitorii said:
40 pages + of thread and information is hard to salvage, but appreciate the proper post etiquette.
Just wanted to let everyone know they are shipping and getting received. If mods feel this thread is useless then feel free to delete =)
Thanks for the know about the case. I wasn't going to push it but thought I'd ask.
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They're not hard to salvage. When you post a reply to that thread it bumps it to the top but thanks for playing.
Hitorii said:
Just got my Xoom from this deal!!!!
1 day shipping delivered before noon as promised. =)
Hope you all get yours soon too!
Also, I forgot to place the order for the free case. What are the odds I can call CS and have it shipped since I purchased during the promo? Anyone else have luck? And what wording did you use if your were successful. Thanks!
And to the guy who posted the thread about this deal - Thanks, you really did help this community flourish. =)
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Why don't you use some of the $200 you saved to buy a $30 case? The people who got in on this deal seem so ungrateful.
Jrockttu said:
Why don't you use some of the $200 you saved to buy a $30 case? The people who got in on this deal seem so ungrateful.
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I talked to one yesterday, they'll do it. If they say no ask for a supervisor, but you shouldn't have a problem.
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Forgive my reposting this in general, but my forum noobness wont allow a user with< 10 posts to post on dev pages.
I have seen a range of 250-400 for the Continuum on Ebay. I am willing to donate up to $50 towards a dev phone if I can be assured that the dev will consistantly continue work on this phone. I know it has potential and I myself have started studying Android programming, been messing in SDK and have a running Eclair phone emulator on my PC, but I don't have the history with linux and android to make anything of it yet.
If I get a dev's word that they will keep up on this phone, count me in for 50 bones towards one. (plus further donations if anything usefull comes along afterwords)
Thanks
cheap continuum
I just "converted" to the Continuum after buying it from a mass auction on eBay. $220 with free shipping; phone seems mint. Look up "*MINT* VERIZON SAMSUNG i400."
However it's procured, I'm willing to pitch in a few bucks for it. It's a neat piece of machinery, and with some tinkering it could be awesome. Shame I'm too dumb to be a developer.
Ok everyone, im going to purchase another continuum to send to adrynalyne and perhaps send my otherone to imnuts .... if i do this i hope everyone will pitch into my paypal to help me offset the cost. I just sent the email to the seller and hopefully i will have it tomorrow. I'll email adrynalyne and let him know that im planning on doing this.
Please send me the info in a PM and how much you you would like (up to the $50 I stated earlier) and I will send it along as soon as Adrynalyne confirms he has it. I have already sent a digital thanks, but thank you very much for doing this!
thanks EX , ok i went ahead, im picking up the phone tomorrow at 2pm. i havnt heard back from adrynalyne yet, but i dont want to wait incase they sell the phone.
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thanks EX , ok i went ahead, im picking up the phone tomorrow at 2pm. i havnt heard back from adrynalyne yet, but i dont want to wait incase they sell the phone.
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You might be better off finding him in irc
We talked over email
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We talked over email
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nice...hopefully some of the continuum community that gave up on development will reappear
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nice...hopefully some of the continuum community that gave up on development will reappear
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Who would you be referring to? We had a pretty small community to begin with...
GOT IT!!!!!!!!!
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OK who do we send the money to
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Who would you be referring to? We had a pretty small community to begin with...
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No one specifically but it seemed for awhile there was a good group of people posting/hanging around...that's all ...glad you guys are getting some help
I think the small core are still around.... If I can figure out getting this thing rooted from Ubuntu, I'll jump in as well... Can't get Mono and Super-One-Click to play nice together...
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I think the small core are still around.... If I can figure out getting this thing rooted from Ubuntu, I'll jump in as well... Can't get Mono and Super-One-Click to play nice together...
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I think i can help you with this
PM me so we don't clutter up the boards... unless you just want to post step by step instructions...
Any takers? pm me
ill go 6
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Any takers? pm me
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Just Pm me your gmail, free of charge.
Edit: I seem to have lost my invite button, will edit again when I get it back >.<
I'd like to be invited
same here! i'll like to be invited
If I get an invite I will invite you to something. [email protected]
Ill take an invite and invite others here on xda. Anybody want to hook me up?
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I just got an invitation after asked in Engadget forum.
And that was AFTER I read that Google closed the invite.
Now, for the stupid me, I cannot and I dont know how to invite other people
If I cannot invite FROM my G+, why I got an invitation after I knew Google closed the invitation.
Grrr ... cannot figure this out ...
Invites actually closed? I'd love to check it out if anyone was willing and able. Either way thanks to anyone who was generous enough to give invites out
So guess invites are closed. Again thanks to those who did share, or offer before they went down.
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I just got an invitation after asked in Engadget forum.
And that was AFTER I read that Google closed the invite.
Now, for the stupid me, I cannot and I dont know how to invite other people
If I cannot invite FROM my G+, why I got an invitation after I knew Google closed the invitation.
Grrr ... cannot figure this out ...
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Invites didn't close all at once it seems. Mine closed well before other peoples. I have a feeling they will open up invites again soon, but limit how many people you invite just like gmail was at beta launch(and still is technically).
I don't know where it will be when the invites come back but to invite before there was a button right below the "go mobile" link for the app on the lower right side of the screen.
But don't worry fellow xoomers, when invites open again I will do my best to get as many of us in as I can
It seems i was also late If anyone can still send out invites, i would really appreciate one. Please PM me, i don't want to post my email publicly.
If i get in, i will return some invites to XDA members.
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It seems i was also late If anyone can still send out invites, i would really appreciate one. Please PM me, i don't want to post my email publicly.
If i get in, i will return some invites to XDA members.
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me too if its still available
If you share a post with the persons email they get an invite,.loophole
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If you share a post with the persons email they get an invite,.loophole
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It seems this doesn't work anymore, at least not for me. Someone shared something with me, i didn't get a invite and i can't sign up. I only can see what that someone posted, nothing else.
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If you share a post with the persons email they get an invite,.loophole
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any chance some1 can send me one since I haven't been able to get one yet?
mwdavis31 at gmail. thanks to anyone that can help. $5 offer still stands to anyone that can find a way to get me an invite
OK, it seems this works again, i'm in!
Like i promised... If you need a invite then send me a PM.
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OK, it seems this works again, i'm in!
Like i promised... If you need a invite then send me a PM.
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just noticed you have a xoom and a sensation - lucky bugger - that's what combo I'd like but will remain with my Desire due to low funds for the foreseeable future (probably till end of the year)
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just noticed you have a xoom and a sensation - lucky bugger - that's what combo I'd like but will remain with my Desire due to low funds for the foreseeable future (probably till end of the year)
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Yes, Xoom and Sensation look good together. But i have had my share of problems with the Sensation, before you buy it, check the Sensation forum!
I didn't expect to get so many PM's that fast, i will try to send the invites now. If you can join then don't forget to click Thanks.
Please don't send any more PM's at the moment, i will be away for my PC for a while now.
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Yes, Xoom and Sensation look good together. But i have had my share of problems with the Sensation, before you buy it, check the Sensation forum!
I didn't expect to get so many PM's that fast, i will try to send the invites now. If you can join then don't forget to click Thanks.
Please don't send any more PM's at the moment, i will be away for my PC for a while now.
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Yea I got slammed but its ok.I am hoping everyone else does the same. Really reallly want fb knocked down some
Hello all. I was member dolce davinci until I asked to get my account closed. the reason I wanted it closed was to get away from xda.
My deal with mycomouterisjunk left me with a broken one s. HTC charged me to get blackrain1983s amaze fixed ( thankfully he is covering half the cost ). both deals are solved but I am left with a damage phone and my bank account in overdraft.
And the bummer of all, usps denied my insurance claim on the one s.
My reason of making this thread is to ask for donations. please, what ever you have will be appreciated . the LCD for the one s is $160, I am not asking for the whole thing but any little monies will help.
I still don't have a phone, I am using black rains amaze untill I ship it in a couple days. some members offered to donate phones but since i closed my account that didn't happen.
I know u guys might want proof that I am DOLCEDAVINCI and I will post some later, we still have a power outage in the DMV and I am on a phone.
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Hello all. I was member dolce davinci until I asked to get my account closed. the reason I wanted it closed was to get away from xda.
My deal with mycomouterisjunk left me with a broken one s. HTC charged me to get blackrain1983s amaze fixed ( thankfully he is covering half the cost ). both deals are solved but I am left with a damage phone and my bank account in overdraft.
And the bummer of all, usps denied my insurance claim on the one s.
My reason of making this thread is to ask for donations. please, what ever you have will be appreciated . the LCD for the one s is $160, I am not asking for the whole thing but any little monies will help.
I still don't have a phone, I am using black rains amaze untill I ship it in a couple days. some members offered to donate phones but since i closed my account that didn't happen.
I know u guys might want proof that I am DOLCEDAVINCI and I will post some later, we still have a power outage in the DMV and I am on a phone.
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Wrong section either way bro.
Why did HTC deny your warranty on the Amaze? What did they say was actually wrong with it? Water damage?
Wondering what inspired you to post in this section.
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Wondering what inspired you to post in this section.
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Can't post in FS/FT unless you're a member for a year.
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Can't post in FS/FT unless you're a member for a year.
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I don't think it even lets you see those forums.
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Hello all. I was member dolce davinci until I asked to get my account closed. the reason I wanted it closed was to get away from xda.
My deal with mycomouterisjunk left me with a broken one s. HTC charged me to get blackrain1983s amaze fixed ( thankfully he is covering half the cost ). both deals are solved but I am left with a damage phone and my bank account in overdraft.
And the bummer of all, usps denied my insurance claim on the one s.
My reason of making this thread is to ask for donations. please, what ever you have will be appreciated . the LCD for the one s is $160, I am not asking for the whole thing but any little monies will help.
I still don't have a phone, I am using black rains amaze untill I ship it in a couple days. some members offered to donate phones but since i closed my account that didn't happen.
I know u guys might want proof that I am DOLCEDAVINCI and I will post some later, we still have a power outage in the DMV and I am on a phone.
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Who gives an eff?
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Who gives an eff?
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There's that warm family feeling we're all used too.
dasistsparta said:
Who gives an eff?
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Did I miss an election where you were appointed to be a spokesperson for all forum members?
Well here's how I see it:
You sent the Amaze to the guy and he said it was bricked. HTC did NOT honor the warranty meaning there was something wrong with it like water damage or dropped or something. Then the One S arrives to the other dude with a cracked screen. Both deals looked kinda shady. And it should not cost that much to fix an LCD/Digitizer/screen assembly at a 3rd party store, maybe at HTC it would be that, check around bro. Also, you said blackrain was going half on you with the Amaze right? so you're not out TOO much. I say sell the One S and buy a cheaper device, or trade it for a Sensation or something as-is if you can.
You then ask to have your account disabled because you want to steer clear of XDA, but create a NEW account to ask for donations for deals that looked shady that you're already getting half for on one? That is serious nuts dude.
"I want to stay away from this site, but changed my mind to come ask for donations because of my bad decisions"
That's just unsavory bro.
And yeah I might be coming off as heartless, but I did donate to jcash and I do help out when it seems warranted.
Just my opinion, you can think on it or chew it over or throw it away or whatever.
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Did I miss an election where you were appointed to be a spokesperson for all forum members?
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"Who gives a f***?" can actually mean that the person who said doesn't actually care and not necessarily implying that NO ONE cares, although that implication is also a valid interpretation, so the possibility exists he meant only to communicate (quite emphatically and bluntly might I add) that HE does not actually care and did not mean to infer that no one on the boards actually cares.
I am still battling it out with HTC. I had my card on file from when I wanted to get a replacement battery but that doesn't give them the right to charge me. everything went like it was supposed to be fixed free because they didn't even alert me through email but there is a hold in my account pending removal from HTC USA for 249.99.
after long aruing through email, black rain sent me $140 but out of that I still have to send the amaze to Jordan with express ( or else there will be no tracking ). I am not asking donations for HTC repair cost. I am trying to get to get rid of it . hopefully its an error because when I track my repair status it doesn't show any update.
I posted here because I can't see the market.
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I am still battling it out with HTC. I had my card on file from when I wanted to get a replacement battery but that doesn't give them the right to charge me. everything went like it was supposed to be fixed free because they didn't even alert me through email but there is a hold in my account pending removal from HTC USA for 249.99.
after long aruing through email, black rain sent me $140 but out of that I still have to send the amaze to Jordan with express ( or else there will be no tracking ). I am not asking donations for HTC repair cost. I am trying to get to get rid of it . hopefully its an error because when I track my repair status it doesn't show any update.
I posted here because I can't see the market.
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Just call HTC and ask if you're being charged or not, sounds like you're not even being charged.
With the shipping to Jordan, find out from blackrain if no tracking is ok, or work something out, maybe he'll help for shipping (since he agree to pay half the repair cost that may not even be charged).
It sounds like you can work this all out so you have a phone and everyone is happy without having to solicit donations here, the fact that you don't want to be on XDA but came back just to ask for donations looks bad too.
HTC wouldn't just charge you for ****s and giggles. I remember my sister broke my N1 and was hoping they would just replace it since they already had to replace the screen twice for faulty hardware. Well they decided I would have to pay for it and they sent me multiple emails and even a certified letter until I responded.
For legal reasons, they won't charge you without documentation of you agreeing to the costs and terms. They might put a HOLD, but they won't charge you. I went to a restaurant with my girlfriend once at a hotel I was not staying at and they put a hold for $100 on my account, but only ended up charging me the actual cost (something like $40-something).
You can just go to your bank and tell them you didn't authorize it. They will remove the hold while they investigate.
Problem solved.
Now can a mod please close this pathetic thread.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
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For legal reasons, they won't charge you without documentation of you agreeing to the costs and terms. They might put a HOLD, but they won't charge you. I went to a restaurant with my girlfriend once at a hotel I was not staying at and they put a hold for $100 on my account, but only ended up charging me the actual cost (something like $40-something).
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A lot of bars do this when you start a tab.
This thread does not belong in this section.
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Hey forum newb here!
I was lucky enough to receive an SPH-D700 earlier this year as my first smartphone! :cyclops: Problem is its kinda busted up and the USB pins are broke.
So I'm really bummed I can't upgrade to CyanogenMod. At least not without a lot of trouble (attempting the latest MasterKey hack for example).
I know its a shot in the dark, but I thought I would just put the word out if any of you guys are upgrading and want to pass along your old phone to a wannabe mod'er... I'd really be interested.
I'm willing to pay shipping.
Send me a PM if you're interested!
Thanks!
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Hey forum newb here!
I was lucky enough to receive an SPH-D700 earlier this year as my first smartphone! :cyclops: Problem is its kinda busted up and the USB pins are broke.
So I'm really bummed I can't upgrade to CyanogenMod. At least not without a lot of trouble (attempting the latest MasterKey hack for example).
I know its a shot in the dark, but I thought I would just put the word out if any of you guys are upgrading and want to pass along your old phone to a wannabe mod'er... I'd really be interested.
I'm willing to pay shipping.
Send me a PM if you're interested!
Thanks!
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You can use the Swappa link in the forum header. I'm not sure if the mods will keep this thread intact given the subject matter.
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You can use the Swappa link in the forum header. I'm not sure if the mods will keep this thread intact given the subject matter.
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Oh I didn't realize if this might be off topic.
And just to be clear, I'm not looking to buy a phone right now. I'm just looking for a kind soul.
Doesn't hurt to ask.
But thanks for pointing out the Swappa link. Will consider it in the far future.
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Oh I didn't realize if this might be off topic.
And just to be clear, I'm not looking to buy a phone right now. I'm just looking for a kind soul.
Doesn't hurt to ask.
But thanks for pointing out the Swappa link. Will consider it in the far future.
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It's not that it's off topic, it's just that buying and selling is no longer allowed within the forums of xda. That's why there's the swappa link, so I'd head there first for a phone.
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It's not that it's off topic, it's just that buying and selling is no longer allowed within the forums of xda. That's why there's the swappa link, so I'd head there first for a phone.
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Okay, I was able to file a complaint through a channel that not only has allowed me to order the Nexus 6 I wanted, but also have it sent via free overnight FedEx to be delivered tomorrow... yes, on Saturday.
I was going to post how I did this, but felt it [maybe] unfair to the people who made it happen for me.
So, this leads me to the question: Of all of the people trying to buy this phone, who would truly benefit this community if they were able to get one? Also, who would keep this information confidential and not repost it for the whole community?
Now, I'm not saying this is guaranteed, but from the time I initiated contact, I had a call back within a few short hours, and was able to place an order over the phone.
Are there any developers who have been unable to get it, who would undoubtedly do some serious good by having one?
I hope no one takes this the wrong way. I have zero developing skills, and this is just a tiny way for me to do something for someone deserving since I've benefited so much from this community.
I see what you are trying to do OP.... Might be best to just send a pm next time
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I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.
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I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.
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Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.
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Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.
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Thank you! Ask him if he's willing to wait or if he wants to go this route and I'll PM him. Hell, I've used his kernels more than any other.
@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.
This thread breaks no rules that I am aware of.
If you do not like it, do not read it.
I understand what the OP is getting at.
He has not solicited thanks or donations, if he does then report the thread.
Thread cleaned. Now keep it clean please
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@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.
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I cannot afford to buy a 2nd one for someone, but am willing to share how I got mine. I know franco is direct and upfront with his words. I don't want to offend him by offering him this info. But if anyone who knows him wants to let him know to contact me, I couldn't think of many more deserving than him.
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Please watch your language. If this thread goes pear shaped I will close it. I am watching
I agree with offering the info to Franciscofranco cause he makes a hell of a kernel and keeps it well updated! I'm sure he'd like to get started.
I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.
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I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.
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Please understand what the OP is saying
He does not have a phone to give away
He just knows a way for people to get hold of one quickly, you still have to buy it. He is not selling his own phone.
This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.
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This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.
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Well, you have every right to feel that way, even as wrong as you are. The last thing I need to do is justify anything to you or anyone else. I've got a temper, and it has shown on here, but I'm not game player. Like others have said, if you don't like the post, leave it alone.
Well OP im no Dev but if youre willing to shed some light on just how you managed that you'd be the coolest person on xda.
why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
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Boom! Anyway, check back here Friday evening. Once I see my 64GB MB N6 "en route", as in "having left the care of its sender and in the hands of the carrier", I'll post how I got someone to listen to, respond, and sell me a phone, all within the same day.
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just sayin
How bout sharing it with a fellow WV native?
Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.
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why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
just sayin
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Yes, you're correct. I was overly excited and hadn't had time to think about it. And then.... I thought about it and how awesome this person on a small team was to me, and decided against it.
I have no problem with this thread being closed. It's obvious aside from the few who "got" what I was trying to do and posted suggestions, the rest have just whined or bickered on here.
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Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.
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As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!
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As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!
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Born and raised in WV, moved to Tennessee 2 years ago. Grew up in Ravenswood.