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Updated to 2.2, how do you know if you're still rooted ??

Guys,
Thanks for the help in fixing my camera issues !!
My next question is, am I still rooted once I updated to 2.2 ?? The Market doesnt seem as extensive as it was when I was rooted on 2.1
I am pretty new at all this stuff, how can you tell if your rooted on 2.2, and if I'm not, how can I properly root it again ??

Vinman18 said:
My next question is, am I still rooted once I updated to 2.2 ?? The Market doesnt seem as extensive as it was when I was rooted on 2.1
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root and Market are not related. You need to change your phone fingerprint to the Nexus 1 to show all the protected applications again as Google does not recognize the DK28 fingerprint.
However, you need to be rooted to edit the file. See the following thread for the fingerprint. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848778
I am pretty new at all this stuff, how can you tell if your rooted on 2.2, and if I'm not, how can I properly root it again ??
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One way to check is to open up a terminal and type "su"
To get root back, use the one click installer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388

Or flash a Tom to get all the apps. If you want to find out if your rooted just download titanium from the market. As soon as you open it it will say asking for root rights.
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ok, here comes the idiot question of the night....
is there any way to root my phone, without having to use a computer to download any files ??
When my friend originally rooted my phone when I was on 2.1, he didnt have to use a computer, he was able to do it right on the phone itself (not sure what he did, tbh)

Vinman18 said:
ok, here comes the idiot question of the night....
is there any way to root my phone, without having to use a computer to download any files ??
When my friend originally rooted my phone when I was on 2.1, he didnt have to use a computer, he was able to do it right on the phone itself (not sure what he did, tbh)
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Z4root
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mysteryemotionz said:
Z4root
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thanks for the info, thats what I had on the phone before (I remember the app)
unfortunately, I cant find it in my market

Yes, z4root is no longer on the market, but you can download the APK here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953

Vinman18 said:
My next question is, am I still rooted once I updated to 2.2 ?? The Market doesnt seem as extensive as it was when I was rooted on 2.1
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To tell if you're rooted - install an app like Titanium Backup, which needs root to function properly. If you're not rooted, there won't be access to the market.
For root if you've lost it, your best option may be to install a custom ROM, which are usually pre-rooted. Besides, most custom ROMS are better than what comes stock. Which custom ROM will depend on your needs.

[Q] can't use custom roms

I've just installed elelinux, everything looked good, but when i restarted my phone i got this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZzZaYc97E
From then i can't use my phone, i have to go back to 2.1 with flash tool to start over.
Before i had the same problem with miniCM and with floyo. Why is that happening? Someone help me PLS.

Hmm interesting.
First, try factory reset in xrecovery.
And if u cant access recovery try push twice power off button, when se logo appears
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What did you do before this happened? You installed something?

have you updated your busybox?

HaN6787 said:
have you updated your busybox?
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yeah. why?

Because that causes your problems.
Never update Busybox!!!
If you update it, you will brick your phone

szaberto said:
yeah. why?
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aha. another victim of busybox update. don't update busybox, because xRecovery only works with previous busybox.
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allright it's good to know thank you for your help

New to android. Considering rooting

Hello people,
I'm relatively new to the Android wold (1 month) and I bought an Arc from my Carrier.
I'm kinda satisfied but I really dislike the way some applications can't be removed (I count something like 20 applications between the carrier and Sony Ericsson partners).
So, I'm considering rooting the phone, but there is a lot of informations I shall process before doing it and I am a little bit unsure about some facts, so I hope you would help me. Here's my questions:
Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
Thanks by anticipation for your answers.
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New and simple way to root Arc / Arc S with locked bootloaders:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1320350
Yes, you'll still be able to update via SEUS as long as your bootloader remains locked. But you'll lose root once you update.

Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
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If the crapware is using up space you need, then that's a pretty good reason to get rid IMO. If SE had left us with a bit more free space it might not be such an issue. Also, root lets you do lots of cool things with your phone that you cant do otherwise.
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
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If you have 2.3.4 then the best bet seems to be the zergRush method detailed here. Havent tried it yet myself, but planning to soon.
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
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Dont think of rooting as giving *you* superuser access, think of it more as allowing you to choose which *apps* have superuser access. Apps with superuser access can do things normal apps cant. Think of the apps as the users of the system - you're just interacting with normal or privileged apps.
When you root, a superuser access app gets installed. Then whenever a non-system app requests su permissions, the superuser app will ask you whether to allow or deny those permissions (you can allow the app permanently or have it ask every time).
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
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Yup you will still be able update via OTA or via SEUS. Updating via SEUS will remove root, but so far OTA updates have maintained root (no guarantee this will continue in the future though).

don't delete just freeze
i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it

Thank you Daveybaby, and thanks Hush066 too.
Now, I'm a bit more aware of what's the rooting process and I shall say you both fired quickly an answer to each topic. I think I'll try the rooting, after the weekend.
Thanks you again.
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HSNalfar3 said:
i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it
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What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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XperienceD said:
All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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I'm sorry, it's true I've posted a bit fast. Yet, I didn't found the sticky talking about freezing apps, but I found out I have to root the phone, even if I only wish to freeze the apps.
Now I know I'll have to root the device (the bloatwares are starting to annoy me a great deal) should I uninstall or freeze the carrier apps.
Thanks again for every answers.

Excelsior82 said:
What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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Apps such as Titanium Backup allows you to either uninstall or freeze a system app. Freezing the app just disables it while uninstalling will completely remove it from the phone.

should i root my GS2?

Hi, i am just wondering if i should flash my stock kernel and use root. I like to be able to play games including the tegra ones however If i do use root and use chainfire 3d will all the curent market apps i have still be available? last time i went to fix market settings and i lost some of them and had 2 manually download them off the internet.
Also, what are the cons of rooting?
I am worried about losing my carrier specific firmware..what does that actually do?

There aren't that many good reasons to root.
I only rooted mine to do the free sim unlock (also from chainfire). 6 months in and I'm still on the rooted stock rom and stock kernel.
On old android phones I had always rooted to use apps2sd, but that isn't an issue with the SGS2.
Perhaps the best reason to root is to get Android 4.0 before the OTA release. Looks like we should have a reasonable ICS ROM with most things working by Christmas. The OTA may be a few months away.

IMO a device should come pre-rooted or at least mentioned in the phone box that it should be rooted
Seriously.

Simple if you have to ask then the answer is NO.
You root when you need root .
It does nothing to the phone bar allow a deeper user level access .
When you require this level of access or you want to run an app that requires root then root .
Likewise if you want to install a custom rom via CWM you require root .
Root voids warranty and raises the custom rom counter so its your choice .
jje

JJEgan said:
Simple if you have to ask then the answer is NO.
You root when you need root .
It does nothing to the phone bar allow a deeper user level access .
When you require this level of access or you want to run an app that requires root then root .
Likewise if you want to install a custom rom via CWM you require root .
Root voids warranty and raises the custom rom counter so its your choice .
jje
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+1 on that.. Its all up to you...
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I was in the same boat, I couldn't decide whether to root our not.
I recommend doing your research, think allot if you actually need rooted apps. Then decide on a method of rooting.
Zergrush is the best method if you just want root access. Its the method I used, plus you can easily flash a new kernel using an app like Mobile Odin.
If you feel you don't NEED root don't do it. Messing on with a phone will void the warranty and possibly irreparably damage it.
Good luck
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I believe forum's are a great place for asking questions, but an even better place for researching all you need to know. So is Google.
****, when I first started off with the S1 I had no idea about android. But through reading alone I learnt how to obtain download mode (mine didn't have it), spoof product code in kies, flash all sorts through Odin and cwm, as well as root and more.
I didn't care about root until I downloaded titanium backup which requires it. I therefore wanted root access.
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what ever you do as soon as you root back up the /efs folder (immediately first thing you should do after rooting no matter what!)

i only rooted my phone because i wanted to use setCPU to save battery.

Since you would like to play Tegra games and the only way in S2 is root and use chainfire 3D. Just root it off and enjoy it

With superoneclick you have the option to unroot. Would Samsung know that it's been rooted and still void warranty?

MagicMan3 said:
With superoneclick you have the option to unroot. Would Samsung know that it's been rooted and still void warranty?
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Unrooting will unroot the device.. It can be done in every other methods also.. But your custom binary counter will increase.. Simply, yes it is possible to find that the device is rooted even after unrooting, unless you reset your binary counter..
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Titanium Backup=reason to root
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Also , Sixaxis Controller app is so sweet if you own a PS3. You seem like the gaming type so you could get a PSX emulator, download your favorite ROMs and whack it off with your PS3 dualshock. Imagine playing Metal Gear Solid on your SGS2 ( looks better then on a real PSone actually
altough configuring the app is a pain in the a$$
PS. the amount of customization you can do when you root is immense!

Athavan said:
Unrooting will unroot the device.. It can be done in every other methods also.. But your custom binary counter will increase.. Simply, yes it is possible to find that the device is rooted even after unrooting, unless you reset your binary counter..
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Use [ROOT] SG2 Easy Rooting Toolkit from zergRUSH - This doesn't increase the custom counter... Very easy to do, unroot is simple also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321538

The simple answer (my favourite type) is don't root.
If you require to run an app that requires root or you want to replace a system app or you just want to tweak the system, then you need to root.
Rooting is simple enough and so is it for getting it back to warranty condition.

Athavan said:
Unrooting will unroot the device.. It can be done in every other methods also.. But your custom binary counter will increase.. Simply, yes it is possible to find that the device is rooted even after unrooting, unless you reset your binary counter..
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Is there a way to reset your binary counter?

Dmonty said:
Use [ROOT] SG2 Easy Rooting Toolkit from zergRUSH - This doesn't increase the custom counter... Very easy to do, unroot is simple also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321538
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Do this before changing roms etc.... It isn't a full on root with changing kernal and roms etc.. BUT you can use titanium and cachemate etc... I only rooted to restore backup from previous android devices
I don't think it voids warranty
Then if you want to change your rom etc you can do it later and change your kernal etc
Tbh though, i agree with an earlier comment, if you need to ask why, you probs dont need to root

MagicMan3 said:
Is there a way to reset your binary counter?
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Yes there are multiple ways and a ship load of threads on how to reset it.
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MagicMan3 said:
Is there a way to reset your binary counter?
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Surely you can...
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Lost Root after New ROM install

Ok, so... I'm not new to rooting, but i AM new to rooting a nexus 7.
I had it all rooted and installed Baked's new ROM, and it gave me superuser permission when I booted into the OS the first time.. but then I restarted the nexus and bam. root was gone, superuser no longer worked... had to reload my backup of my original rom, root is back again.
I'm running CWM touch as recovery (latest update) had OTA voodoo rootkeeper (which won't help though because its a fresh install right?)
Can anyone tell me what is going on? I'm a bit lost... usually when you root. You are rooted. period. This is a new game to me.

Use this program to root it again mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
On the top left corner, it lets you choose your model and ROM.
Just choose custom ROM for any non official ROM's.

Jon565G said:
Use this program to root it again mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
On the top left corner, it lets you choose your model and ROM.
Just choose custom ROM for any non official ROM's.
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thanks! just downloaded it ... any suggestions on a great ROM? i've tried a few, but there are so many. lol!

update youre superuser or supersu app. i suggest you get the supersu app from the market since superuser is a bit buggy on jelly bean. open the supersu app, itll ask to update the binaries, do it. no need wasting your time "rerooting".

No worries, glad I could help Unfortunately, I've not ventured into the different ROM's yet. Should really....... So I can't recommend any. Sorry Though I do like the look of the ones that have the real tablet UI, might try one of them in a few days.....
Though you know what your doing, if you do need any help, you know where I am
If you could press the thanks button mate, I would really appreciate it Cheers

simms22 said:
update youre superuser or supersu app. i suggest you get the supersu app from the market since superuser is a bit buggy on jelly bean. open the supersu app, itll ask to update the binaries, do it. no need wasting your time "rerooting".
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Sweet! I'll try this!!!

BossJ said:
Sweet! I'll try this!!!
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after you do it(supersu), with a root file explorer like root explorer go to /system/app/ and delete the superuser.apk and reboot.

simms22 said:
after you do it(supersu), with a root file explorer like root explorer go to /system/app/ and delete the superuser.apk and reboot.
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Ahh, thank you! Was wondering if there was another step! Done and done! Wooooo!!!

BossJ said:
Ahh, thank you! Was wondering if there was another step! Done and done! Wooooo!!!
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if you ever read that you have to reroot, think twice about it. rerooting is what people that dont know better say. as in this case, it was only a bad app.

simms22 said:
if you ever read that you have to reroot, think twice about it. rerooting is what people that dont know better say. as in this case, it was only a bad app.
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that's what i was thinking.. I've rooted so many times before and once you're rooted. you're rooted unless an ota takes the root away, but... i was just installing roms... so weird... superuser just doesn't work well with Jelly?

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if you ever read that you have to reroot, think twice about it. rerooting is what people that dont know better say. as in this case, it was only a bad app.
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I apologise if I was making it more difficult than it needed to be I've only used Xperia Arc before, it needs to be rooted again after every firmware change. Thanks for posting this too, now I know in the future
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I thought I'd lost root, but after installing busy box and updating super user, it was fine
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BossJ said:
that's what i was thinking.. I've rooted so many times before and once you're rooted. you're rooted unless an ota takes the root away, but... i was just installing roms... so weird... superuser just doesn't work well with Jelly?
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yup. it works, but with minor issues. supersu is working flawlessly. another thing to do is update your busybox, stericsons busybox updater in the play market works well, and is free.
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Jon565G said:
I apologise if I was making it more difficult than it needed to be I've only used Xperia Arc before, it needs to be rooted again after every firmware change. Thanks for posting this too, now I know in the future
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with any nexus device, there really isnt a "rooting". from scratch all you need to do is fastboot oem unlock(bootloader), fastboot flash a custom recovery, and either flash the su binaries or a custom rom in your recovery. no root toolkits needed. thats whats awesome about any nexus.

with any nexus device, there really isnt a "rooting". from scratch all you need to do is fastboot oem unlock(bootloader), fastboot flash a custom recovery, and either flash the su binaries or a custom rom in your recovery. no root toolkits needed. thats whats awesome about any nexus.
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Looks like I'll be considering a nexus for my next phone. Sony make everything more difficult than it should be......

Jon565G said:
Looks like I'll be considering a nexus for my next phone. Sony make everything more difficult than it should be......
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unfortunately not only sony