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Quadrant doesn't run

Anyone else being unable to run Quadrant? I run Quadrant and it gets to the first graphics and after that the benchmark just cancels itself.
Yes, yes I know "benchmarks are useless". I still would like to be able to run it, though, and see what my $500+ phone can get

DarkAgent said:
Anyone else being unable to run Quadrant? I run Quadrant and it gets to the first graphics and after that the benchmark just cancels itself.
Yes, yes I know "benchmarks are useless". I still would like to be able to run it, though, and see what my $500+ phone can get
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Quadrant Standard will not run on mine either.

Ran fine for me.

I ran it again; this time it got past the first graphics. However, it didn't finish; it canceled itself after the world.
Similarly, the graphics on the test were weird, such as the world was all gray instead of what it should be.

i got quadrant advance to run once after install but after that wouldn't work

I am using Quadrant Standard, just ran it a second time and it made it through again. I did notice that on some of the graphics tests the details are missing. For example, the planets are just grey orbs. Anyway, scored 1800 that time around.

same here
I did a restart once and was able to get through the full benchmark once, but the graphics were missing all details.
Otherwise, it usually stalls at database writing, then quits during the graphics section.

As the apps author notes in the description box of his app, the Nexus S is not yet supported as he needs to update his app to work better with Gingerbread.
Also answered this was answered in the stickied FAQ.
unremarked said:
Q: Linpack/Quadrant Scores?
Linpack doesn't play very nicely with the Galaxy S lineup generating very low numbers in comparison to HTC devices. This is because the processors that are powering these devices operate in different ways. Does this mean the Nexus S processors are slower? Not really, just different. As for Quadrant, it doesn't currently work very well with Gingerbread and needs to be updated. The scores folks have been seeing though put it in the 1600 range without a modified kernel.
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Quadrant scores

Ok so ive rooted this toy, flashed the 1.2ghz kernal and ran quadrant on it. I hit anywhere from 1080 to 1180. Have setcpu on demand at 800 min and 1200 max so why on earth is my rooted nook color running android 2.1 and a flashed 1100mhz kernal hitting wayyyy higher scores? (Around 1280) doesnt seem logical at all. Specially cause this is an actual tablet and thats just a rooted e reader. Did I do something wrong?
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Quadrant is a bad benchmark. It weights i/o far too heavily.
The Tabs RFS filesystems bring its Quadrant score way below where it should be, though in actual use it's very fast.
If you move to EXT4, your Quadrant scores will shoot up by around 80%.
Regards,
Dave

O sweet love of mary. 80% you say. Ok ive seen some posts redarding this ext4 thingymabob. Ill check it out. So if im understanding you correctly by changing to this my tab will perform even better than it does now? Or ill just see a genaric increase on this quadrant test that really means nothing? Sorry im noobish lol
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Well, my tab is currently on ext4 and my quadrant scores completely destroys my rfs score taken earlier.
However, that said, i don't really feel any performance improvements except the satisfaction knowing that my toy is now on an open and faster file system as opposed to a propriatory and slower one ;-)
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Ok so ive looked at some threads containing info but I see no post telling me how to do this magic. Could one of you nice, young, kindhearted souls link me to where I need to go to put this thing on my verizon cdma galaxy tab? Please and thank you sirs?
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Quadrant scores aren't as accurate as people think you know...
Sent from zombie infested Gingerbread.

There's an app called OCLF that will transparently add an EXT4 area on the RFS filesystem without needing to convert the whole thing to EXT4, giving you EXT4 IO performance in an easily installable and reversible way. Probably your best choice for trying it out. Otherwise, for the complete conversion, you could try this Modaco ROM/Kernel, which includes a complete conversion to EXT4.
As far as performance differences go, it makes a huge (10x) difference to the Quadrant IO score (measured before and after figures), but no measurable difference to actual performance (measured real-world usage figures). Some people claim to notice a subjective difference, but I never did.

Im using the modaco rom and kernel with ext4.
And it does make a huge difference. I get around 1800 in quadrant now.

conan1600 said:
Ok so ive looked at some threads containing info but I see no post telling me how to do this magic. Could one of you nice, young, kindhearted souls link me to where I need to go to put this thing on my verizon cdma galaxy tab? Please and thank you sirs?
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hi,
please be aware that the modaco kernel (rfs/ext4) will not work on CDMA Tabs.
from modaco kernel thread
This kernel is ONLY tested on a UK Galaxy Tab. It MAY work on other GSM Tabs, it almost certainly WON'T work on a CDMA Tab. If you have a non UK Tab and want to test (and know how to flash back to a regular version), then go ahead and report your results. At your own risk.
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regards,
mike

robertsydbrink said:
Im using the modaco rom and kernel with ext4.
And it does make a huge difference. I get around 1800 in quadrant now.
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That's the point!
It makes a huge difference in Quadrant, which is a synthetic benchmark, but far, far less difference in real world usage - hence it is a crap benchmark!
Pre-EXT4 my Tab would pull around 1000 in Quadrant, whereas my Desire HD would pull around 1800. However in real usage, they seem to perform pretty much the same which is not too surprising as they are similarly specified. On EXT4, my Tab pulls around 1800 now, but still performs much like my DHD.
I so wish people would stop bandying about Quadrant scores because they are meaningless.
Regards,
Dave

If you look at the scores in quadrant , they are split by colour so you can see how good the graphics capabilities are for example and compare to other phones. The colour codes are at the bottom of quadrant by the way

Linpack is a better benchmark. Not perfect, but better

Not really - Linpack only tests floating point performance.
Regards,
Dave

Wow, I started a heated discussion lol. Well ive downloaded the one click lag fix but have not applied the ext2 tools as yet. Want to do more reading about it first. Obviously I want my yab to be the best it can be but I surely dont want to make it genericly better at the expence of my video grafix as one user said he suffered in that thread.
More reserch required
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Taking Quadrant scores aside, when I made the switch from CF-Root to the Ext4 MCK, I really did notice a huge improvement in real world usage. I'm not sure if it is really because of the change in file system, but nevertheless thats the only big thing present in that kernel aside from CWM.

Everything said make sense and seems to be valid but let me share my experience.
I have Samsung Galaxy Vibrant and T-mobile Tab. Now both are using EXT4 file system and have fully functional recovery allowing for flashing straight from the phone.
Both now have Quanrant score around 1700-1800 and run very smothly.
Is I/O speed important? I think it is very important because task switching requires reading of huge chuncks of memory. Until read operation completed the user is essencially suspended. Multitasking is the major distinction of Android and lags associated with the tasks switching might be the most noticeable issue since its used so much. Converting of the RFS file system to EXT4 practically reduced lags to unnoticeable level. I don't need any better.
Another critical area for I/O is playing video and especially capturing HD video. The latter works only if I set internal storage and shut down all tasks.
This is work in progress but it seems it reached level of usability when most critical bugs eliminated.
It should be noted that the Tab is flashed with Rotohammer KM2 v1 ROM and Paul Obrien's kernel on a top. The kernel contains scripts converting the file system and flashing recovery. This combination works well, no issues so far.

Well I decided to give it a try and after install my quadrant is 2556 and linpack is 16.865 mflops at 1200mhz. Good scores but just numbers. I do however believe im seeing a bit of snap that I didnt have before when accessing my library. Still really unsure if this is a good thing as im not sure if I can use apps to sd anymore so I may uninstall at some point in the future but thanks to all you who helped the old man out. Atm im quite happy
Now lets get ta craka lackin on a 1.5 ghz update for our tabs
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Of course you can use a2sd. Froyo does it by default
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I think you are pushing!
Overclocking will raise processor/RAM heat dissipation and thus might lead to a catastrophic failure. It would be great to have temperature sensor on the board or at least measure current consumption from the battery but it is not easy.

Of course im a pushin lol. Only way to achieve is to try. Course ive read about the tab proccessor being able to handle 1.4 stable and can handle 1.6... Not that id know about these things first hand. Just taking the words of better men.
Just an old man with a little time to kill and a dream to be able to play facebook cityville on my tab haha. Well that and I have always enjoyed souping up my toys lmao.
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Linpack v1.2.7

Linpack v1.2.7 was released and I found a 4MFLOP increase without changing anything on my phone. Anyone else see a difference in their score? The update stats it only added multi-threading support but I believe something else changed.

Same for me as well. Must have changed the testing method. Went from 14ish with AAi3 to 17.5ish

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Same for me as well. Must have changed the testing method. Went from 14ish with AAi3 to 17.5ish
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I'm getting 17.5 on Bonsai 5 also now. Here is a note from the Market description of the update-
"Note: Your MFLOPS rating will increase in this version due to updated libraries and methods. Shows Android is improving! Newly added the ability to fully test multi-core processors with the use of multi-threading. Compare speeds from a single and multi-thread runs. See how well your multi-core device works under android."
So not only does it state multi-core support, but also new libraries that increase the scores on all devices. Kind of confusing for a benchmark app to do this as it makes all the old scores obsolete.

Thank you very much for explaining why the scores increased. I should of read it all before upgrading.
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I got a 23 that's the highest I've gotten
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[REF] All ICS ROMs Benchmarked

Results in Google Docs Spreadsheet
All ICS ROMs Benchmarked
Any regular visitors to this thread can't have failed to notice the big changes in the spreadsheet. In particular I've been studying the effect of the kernel the ROM developer includes. If you look at column H, you will see whether I recommend flashing another kernel to improve performance at stock speeds.
REMEMBER: Performance is not everything! Many custom kernels provide extra features!
If you do decide to switch kernels, and only desire stock speeds and a reduced feature set, I recommend two kernels in this post.
If you are new to this stuff read this.
SUMMARY OF RESULTS
#1st place: Pixel ROM 1.72
#2nd place: CyberGR-MOD|NS.NGN ICS v10 HYBRID
#3rd place: MIUI Catalyst 2.4.6
#4th place: AOSP+ N.5
#5th place: [MIUI][2.4.6] Oodie pRiMe rOcket fUeled
Where do I find all these wonderful ROMs?
Their XDA threads are all linked in the table, so click through to discover each ROM's feature set, included apps, theme, and evidence of good karma!
Looking for a Gingerbread ROM? Try this.
Where did all your other benchmarks go?
Kernel Features & Benchmarks: this thread
Battery drain: this thread
CPU Governors and I/O Schedulers: this thread
Power Saving Governors: this thread
Thanks to all the developers.

Testing Methodology
Each ROM is clean installed, allowed its own default settings, then all benchmark software is installed and run once the system is settled. I also perform one screen off screen on, just out of habbit (this used to resolve a graphics bug in gingerbread, which I'm not even sure exists in ICS). All results are recorded in the spreadsheet. Then I restart in recovery, wipe cache and dalvic (thanks morfic for dalvic wiper) and install morfic's T132-I kernel. Reboot, use nstools to select performance (default I/O scheduler for morfic's kernel is deadline). Reperform all benchmarks, recording them in the spreadsheet. The calculation for the overall CPU RAM I/O and GRAPHICS scores is identical to the one I use in my kernel benchmarking spreadsheet. Please refer to that thread for more detail. However, there is one difference. Quadrant behaves very differently in different ROMs depending on what graphics tweaks they incorporate. As such, no Quadrant scores are used in this ROM benchmarking study. For more details, see under 'Graphics' below.
The final step was to average out the results of both kernel scores, and ranking on that basis. Some would say that they are best ranked by looking at T132 scores only. I would say that is a fair point, and definitely worth consideration.
There are two reasons I incorporate the default kernel score:
1) Overall scores have a worst case scenario accuracy of within 2% of the true mean due to variability in the benchmarks (more detail on how I obtain this figure is available in my kernel benchmarking thread). For normally distributed data (which we can safely assume these benchmarks produce) averaging two sets of results will result in doubling the accuracy to within 1% of the true mean, making the ranking more reliable.
2) Combining the default kernel Scores for ROMs that used a poor performing kernel, or selected bad governor/scheduler combinations by default will suffer as a consequence. These problems can be solved if the user flashes their own preferred kernel and/or adjusts the kernel settings. However, many new users will not perform this step. For that reason, I want to give a score that at least somewhat reflects the performance as the developer intended.
-Graphics
One of the early findings is selecting force GPU rendering in the developer options improves 2D performance, in Quadrant only. Also, and only in Quadrant, 3D performance can be improved by deleting or moving /system/lib/egl/libGLES_android.so using root explorer or equivalent. These tweaks/hacks do not seem to affect other benchmarks in the slightest.
Because of the bizarre effects of these tweaks on Quadrant scores, I have removed them from the formula that calculates the overall GFX score, and this in turn impacts the overall average score. In short, it makes comparing each ROM's score fairer.
You can see evidence of how the graphics tweaks make Quadrant behave differently at the bottom of the spreadsheet, highlighted in light red. The host ROM for this particular comparison was DianXin or DX ROM for short. This is a reference to a post I make in DX ROMs thread, where I first decide that removing Quadrant is the best option: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22323688&postcount=194
-Android 4.0.1
These ROMs (at the bottom of the spreadsheet, highlighted in light red) were based on early maguro ports provided by koush. I have left them in, because although they are difficult to compare to 4.0.3 builds with the correct drivers and whatnot, they do compare to each other in one important respect: the kernel. One is stock, the other is built by eugene373 (galaxy nexus/nexus s dev.) Using eugene373's kernel, CPU, I/O, and Graphics were all raised to a high standard that is on a par, or above some of the current ROMs. This goes to show that a customised kernel can offer great benefits, even on a ported ROM.
-Android 4.0.4
As of the 5th of February, my table contains all the ICS ROMs that are listed in the XDA forums. There was only one 4.0.4 version at the time, and this was the best performing in the benchmarks. When the source code is released, I'm sure many ROMs will update. At this point they will benefit from increased RAM scores and javascript performance. If all the ROMs scores improve by the same proportion, the rankings will not be affected. I will attempt to included major releases, but I will not reperform these tests every time there is a new nightly.

Reserved 4

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Thanks
I was waiting for this
It might lead to troll wars though
By the way, i dont see Pete ICS rom in there, im using it.

Ibn Saeed said:
Thanks
I was waiting for this
It might lead to troll wars though
By the way, i dont see Pete ICS rom in there, im using it.
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Thanks, and no troll wars please y'all.

Don't you think "popularity" is going a little too far? It will definitely lead to fights...all the devs are good and I don't think prominence is a good indicator of a good rom
But it's up to you
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Personally, benchmarks are very misleading... Some of the most stable and well developed roms don't get the greatest scores because they weren't made with benchmarks in mind.
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Another great work! Thanks
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mathkid95 said:
Don't you think "popularity" is going a little too far? It will definitely lead to fights...all the devs are good and I don't think prominence is a good indicator of a good rom
But it's up to you
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just remember, popular doesnt mean better. but to get angry at the truth(whatever it might be) is just silly. its lies that you should be upset with.

Where's Peter Alfonso's ROM? Bugless Beast is a mainstream rom, second only to Cyanogenmod in scope and breadth.. The ROM thread is in the General forum, because he links to his page at Rootzwiki, but it's a more prominent ROM than many you've listed.
Please include it in the benchmarking as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430170
you didn't add and test this one

please add pete ics bugless beast.

Omissions fixed!
UPDATE: kwiboo's project removed, was an SDK port. So so tired now, got to sleep. Tomorrow begin again with Brainmaster's tweaked ICS

Which kernel is used to make the tests?
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Forget It...
"I'll be benchmarking them twice with whatever kernel they come with, and then with morfic's bare boned T132"

biotecsoul said:
Which kernel is used to make the tests?
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Read the op.
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u could also add overnite battery drainage column with sync on or somethin like that, if not overnite then a period of 2 hrs idle .. how much does it drain ..

Holy **** man, what would it be if the NS comunity didnt have you??
Thumbs up!!!!
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Holy **** man, what would it be if the NS comunity didnt have you??
Thumbs up!!!!
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Haha, that makes me feel good. Wait, Benchmarks > XDA thread > Positive XDA user feedback > Dopamine release = Addiction to benchmarking? Time to join crackflashers anonymous...

mathkid95 said:
Don't you think "popularity" is going a little too far? It will definitely lead to fights...all the devs are good and I don't think prominence is a good indicator of a good rom
But it's up to you
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I doubt it would lead to fights between devs, well hopefully not. I can see users arguing stuff more than devs.
Benchmarks aren't that good anways.
BTW, your kernel sucks!!!!
Just kidding been running smoothly since I started using it the other day
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Thanks for the ratings system. Looks nice!

New Quadrant -> Support For Multiple Cores And ICS

A call for all the benchmark whores, this is your time to shine. Your e-peen will grow like no other. You can post your new quadrant scores, without anyone telling you that it's outdated!
Article link
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AndroidPolice said:
When it comes to benchmarks, one name usually stands above all others: Quadrant. Even though it has been proven to be easily faked, there's just something about running it and see a 3000+ score show up at the end to make you feel your device is untouchable.
Despite its popularity, Quadrant has been missing one key feature: multi-core support. That all changes with an update that was pushed to the Market earlier today, which brings Quadrant up to version 2.0, though. Not only does Quadrant now support multiple-core chips, but the update also brings ICS support, GUI improvements, support for Polish, and a fix for slow frame rates on PowerVR SGX 540 GPUs.
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If it would matter, mine would be 3547.
It also occurred to me, that I might have not posted in the correct subforum. If so, I kindly ask Scotty to beam me up and back down a bit to the left.
And in the meantime it also occurred to me, that someone else had posted a similar thread already. I can only blame the forums for not giving me relevant search results.

It's still crap, because it doesn't display per-test scoring so you can know WHAT changed a score.
For example, disabling per-file sync in the filesystem code gains you a few hundred points in Quadrant - in AnTuTu it's clear that this improvement is in database write tests. (It also doesn't skew the scores nearly as much. Quadrant's weighting sucks.)

With ICS 'LPB' i got 3914.

I got 4004 on i9100 with ICS XXLPB
However...
Quadrant reports that my device has only one core, which is quite an important mistake, and some of the graphics tests keep hitting the 60fps ceiling, which ruins the integrity of the test, assuming it is based on measuring the maximum possible framerate.

hedgepigdaniel said:
I got 4004 on i9100 with ICS XXLPB
However...
Quadrant reports that my device has only one core, which is quite an important mistake, and some of the graphics tests keep hitting the 60fps ceiling, which ruins the integrity of the test, assuming it is based on measuring the maximum possible framerate.
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The s2 framerate is capped at 60 fps because of vsync, it can't be changed..
And Quadrant results are more accurate on quallcomm device.. Other than that results may vary and could even be manipulated, CMIIW
I suggest you to run nenamark2 benchmark instead.. It's free on the market and gives a comparable results too..
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Guys, is the planet part of the test scores only about 38+ fps?
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3875 on XLB remix 9.2

Using omega's ics rom...
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Gorjess said:
The s2 framerate is capped at 60 fps because of vsync, it can't be changed..
And Quadrant results are more accurate on quallcomm device.. Other than that results may vary and could even be manipulated, CMIIW
I suggest you to run nenamark2 benchmark instead.. It's free on the market and gives a comparable results too..
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The 60fps limit can't be changed, but quadrants graphics test can be made more challenging so that the limiting factor is power rather than the arbitrary fps limit. It's not an accurate test if its hitting the 60fps ceiling.

ephraim033 said:
Guys, is the planet part of the test scores only about 38+ fps?
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mine stuck @ 45 fps for the same test, are you in ICS rom?
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between got 4285 in LPB

4346 here and planet test is at 38 fps.
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3510 on CM9 latest

bala_gamer said:
mine stuck @ 45 fps for the same test, are you in ICS rom?
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between got 4285 in LPB
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Nope, i'm using Hyperdroid ROM
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Hmm... it seems to me that CM9 gets lower scores than other ICS ROMs. That, I think, can be explained by the lack of full kernel support. Let's hope for the better, when they will get their hands on the kernel sources.

Please don't discuss Quadrant scores in this forum. Search "quadrant" in GSII General for the 7 or 8 threads we've closed for the reasons why.
Thanks