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Is this normal?
Service: TMOUS
Phone HTC HD2 Latest 2.13 Rom
I'll try to make this as short as possible.
Connectivity issues everywhere but work.
I have been speaking with T-mobile for atleast 3 weeks about my ongoing data connectivity issues, I rarely had 3g except for at work, and edge worked most of the time except for random data outages that seemed to last about 30 min or until I rebooted the device.
So about a week ago I had 2 more Service requests opened, you need 3 in order to aquire a trouble ticket with t-mobile. About 1-2 days after having these service requests opened, I started receiving pop ups "unable to connect to epc.tmobile.com" I would then have to manually turn my data connect back on, upon trying to power it on, it would prompt me to manage my connections or create a new one, I would then have to edit the apn and resave it.
So I thought well lets try one of the other apn's same issue except no pop up, my data connection would just drop, and I would have to turn it on and off 3 or 4 times. So I wiped the device and restored back to orginal settings- same issue.
I called t-mobile yesterday to check the status of my tickets after not being called back as promised for like the 8th time, I ended up telling the story to about 7 different people, Eventually coming to the conclusion that they first want to send me a replacement. So ok no big deal $10 bucks for shipping and $10 bucks to replace my armor. Lo and behold today it works amazing not 1 3g drop, slacker has not stopped playing in the middle of a song and my data connection has not randomly turned off.
EXCEPT
When I send or receive data in the form of a text msg.
Data will totally drop, It will come back as soon as I try to browse the web or wait about 5-10 minutes.
Any ideas?

If it isn't full 3G, then the data connection will pause to receive the text message.

rp-x1 said:
If it isn't full 3G, then the data connection will pause to receive the text message.
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How can you tell if its full strength? I read that the bars do not mean that 3g is full strength, just that the cell service is.
Either way, I have full bars and it does this at any location I test from.
It's just strange that everytime I speak with T-mobile my phone symptoms totally change.

borguo said:
How can you tell if its full strength? I read that the bars do not mean that 3g is full strength, just that the cell service is.
Either way, I have full bars and it does this at any location I test from.
It's just strange that everytime I speak with T-mobile my phone symptoms totally change.
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Sorry, I meant when it is EDGE or GPRS, rather than HSDPA/3G.
Sometimes mine pauses a 3G connection too, but not all the time.

rp-x1 said:
Sorry, I meant when it is EDGE or GPRS, rather than HSDPA/3G.
Sometimes mine pauses a 3G connection too, but not all the time.
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Ahh ok I see, good to know it shouldn't do it all the time , especially at places it did not happen prior.

Tested my gf's HD2 which is currently half way across Phoenix, Arizona. She now has the same disconnect from data problem after receiving a text with a picture.

Atrix Loses Internet Connection With AT&T

I've had my Atrix for a couple of days now, and twice internet connection with AT&T just stops working.
Going into airplane mode and then back to normal still does not fix the issue. Wifi works, however this should not be the solution.
Besides AT&T Gimping our HSUPA speeds and not providing an app for the FM Radio, the loss of internet connectivity is pretty annoying.
So far the only way for me to resolve the issue is to shut down or restart the phone.
Has anyone else experienced this? I have not rooted my phone yet because I want to see how things work stock.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks!

I had this happen to me 3 times already..among all the issues i am seeing with this device.
You are correct, nothing helps but a reboot.

clubtech said:
I had this happen to me 3 times already..among all the issues i am seeing with this device.
You are correct, nothing helps but a reboot.
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This is bad, what other issues are you having?

James62370 said:
This is bad, what other issues are you having?
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Mu phone is randomly rebooting on me even straight after a factory reset. It is going to get exchanged tomorrow.
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My phone just lost its connection and had to reboot. This happened after I disconnected from my vpn. Have to try to replicate the issue. Will keep you posted.

James62370 said:
I've had my Atrix for a couple of days now, and twice internet connection with AT&T just stops working.
Going into airplane mode and then back to normal still does not fix the issue. Wifi works, however this should not be the solution.
Besides AT&T Gimping our HSUPA speeds and not providing an app for the FM Radio, the loss of internet connectivity is pretty annoying.
So far the only way for me to resolve the issue is to shut down or restart the phone.
Has anyone else experienced this? I have not rooted my phone yet because I want to see how things work stock.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Gimping the HSUPA is...but how are not providing an FM radio app and the connectivity problem you're having AT&T's fault? Nobody else seems to be having a problem losing connection (meaning it's either you or your device that's gone bad) and the FM Radio not having an associated app is Motorola's fault.
Assign blame where it's due, plz.

hotleadsingerguy said:
Gimping the HSUPA is...but how are not providing an FM radio app and the connectivity problem you're having AT&T's fault? Nobody else seems to be having a problem losing connection (meaning it's either you or your device that's gone bad) and the FM Radio not having an associated app is Motorola's fault.
Assign blame where it's due, plz.
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Because AT&T is the APN providing internet access to our phones. Motorola has the FM hardware built in, AT&T is not making use of the FM Radio hardware which is already provided by Motorola.
If I was the only one with this problem, then others would not have stated they have the same issue.
So I blame AT&T when there is no connectivity on my phone because I'm paying them to be my service provider. AT&T also has restricted many features on phones which have applicable hardware.
Besides, you are not the authority as to who I wish to blame. If you don't have anything useful to post, then I suggest you just stay quiet since your reply is just wasting our time.

James62370 said:
I've had my Atrix for a couple of days now, and twice internet connection with AT&T just stops working.
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This happend to my GF's Atrix last night on her way home from work. Said she rebooted it, and it still wouldn't connect. I rebooted it when she got home and it started working again.

I lost internet with mine last night. Had to reboot.
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Any chance this is related to not switching to the 4G data plans? Or has everyone done that?

AmesCell said:
Any chance this is related to not switching to the 4G data plans? Or has everyone done that?
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We switched the plan when we ordered the phone online.
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Mine has done it several times. It seems to happen after the connection drops for a weak signal. Then for some reason never comes back on. It is not just my internet connection, it is my entire signal that never comes back. I can't make calls either.

Same here, several times... id expect a patch coming shortly to remedy some of this BS.

i think all of these network issues all arond may be due to a deadline att has not met and is severely late on its 4g. Its prob updating its system. Just speculation.

kgeissler said:
Mine has done it several times. It seems to happen after the connection drops for a weak signal. Then for some reason never comes back on. It is not just my internet connection, it is my entire signal that never comes back. I can't make calls either.
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I think you have this spot on
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I'm new to AT&T with this phone... hopefully they put me on the right plan.
this happened to me about 2 hours after I got the phone, once yesterday and once already this morning.
only a reboot fixes it. very annoying.
Is there anything I can post up to help devs figure this one out?

kgeissler said:
Mine has done it several times. It seems to happen after the connection drops for a weak signal. Then for some reason never comes back on. It is not just my internet connection, it is my entire signal that never comes back. I can't make calls either.
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I didn't check my phone status, next time it happens I'll try to make/receive a call to confirm.

I had the same problem today. I turned my wifi on because I was home and then I wanted to test my 3G speed at home. Turned wifi off and then I lost the data connection. It showed the H+ symbol and full bars but not the arrows below the H. I had to reboot the phone to fix the problem. Airplane mode didn't help.

mgymnop said:
I had the same problem today. I turned my wifi on because I was home and then I wanted to test my 3G speed at home. Turned wifi off and then I lost the data connection. It showed the H+ symbol and full bars but not the arrows below the H. I had to reboot the phone to fix the problem. Airplane mode didn't help.
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Did you bother to get an ATT 4g sim?
I hear that using a 3g sim will screw stuff up.

Techcruncher said:
Did you bother to get an ATT 4g sim?
I hear that using a 3g sim will screw stuff up.
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I am new to AT&T and I guess I got a new 4G sim card. At least I had not an old one from another phone. Is there a possibility to distinguish them for me?

[Q] Losing data connection when switching between Wi-Fi and Cellular Data

Hi All,
Long time follower, first time poster..
I have a very annoying issue with my Nexus 4(4.2.1 and rooted on Tmob).
I use wi-fi connection at home and work and in-between I switch to HSPA or should I say, I was able to..
Lately I have been seeing that If I leave the Wi-Fi area, the phone doesn't switch to cellular data and the connection gets lost.
Switching to airplane mode and back brings it back most of the time but it's really annoying having to do so..
I did find an issue #40514 on the google android code page( code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40514)
Tried the suggested work arounds like "Auto Network" setting and it didn't seem to help..also have tmob in the APN settings. Still the only thing that works for me is toggling the airplane mode.
This happened to me once on my previous Gnex but with N4, it started to happen all the time.
Does anyone have a better solution to this issue?
Thanks
Oz

even I face the same issue with this new Paranoid 4.1.2 ROM for Atrix 2. I've noticed only one ROM gave me consistent data 24/7, it was from same dev altered his NUMA B2.
But other than that, this has been a repeating problem in all ROMS. Data stays on for hours without issue but suddenly drops and never comes up, other than air plane toggle. Somebody mentioned it is with the network and trust me it is not..
but I'm also eagerly waiting for a solution

krisxda said:
even I face the same issue with this new Paranoid 4.1.2 ROM for Atrix 2. I've noticed only one ROM gave me consistent data 24/7, it was from same dev altered his NUMA B2.
But other than that, this has been a repeating problem in all ROMS. Data stays on for hours without issue but suddenly drops and never comes up, other than air plane toggle. Somebody mentioned it is with the network and trust me it is not..
but I'm also eagerly waiting for a solution
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Yea, at first I thought it has something to do with rooting but apparently it is happening with non-rooted phones as well..Google needs to address this issue..

ozgurust said:
Yea, at first I thought it has something to do with rooting but apparently it is happening with non-rooted phones as well..Google needs to address this issue..
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Are google aware of this wireless connectivity issue? I've posted and started another thread which details a 3G data issue... :/

LPX4 said:
Are google aware of this wireless connectivity issue? I've posted and started another thread which details a 3G data issue... :/
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Just throwing in my two cents; I starred the threads that I *think* are related on the google tracker. My experience is like this:
I start up Sirius on my phone before leaving home (On wifi)
Driving to the end of my development and then lose WIFI which in turn turns my 3g/4g gray for about a half mile
Picks 3g/4g back up eventually
As I'm driving to work if I end up picking up any open WIFI spots that have a login, once that happens I lose 3g/4g again then have to either wait till that access point is out of range or just turn off my WIFI before data will pick up again
It's pretty annoying; probably going to have to create a tasker profile to turn off wifi when leaving the house and back on when I get home.

Same problem on an LG F6 Optimus
I just got a brand new LG Optimus F6 and I'm noticing this same issue. The phone is stock and runs 4.1.2
Anyone found a solution?

the issue continue in n4 with 4.4?

Exclamation marks on WiFi and Phone signal

Every once in a while I go to use the phone and my WiFi and Phone signal will have exclamation points beside them. I have to disconnect and reconnect on the WiFi to fix the issue. Is anyone else having this issue?

I only see the exclamation point after boot or when I turn on WiFi: the antenna is in the process of connecting to the network / wireless router. Otherwise, I don't see the ! again.

I had it this morning. Turned off Wifi, and the cell exclamation point went away.

dhoppy said:
I had it this morning. Turned off Wifi, and the cell exclamation point went away.
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Same here. My phone was sitting beside me and had been getting calls and text messages all day long. I picked it up to look for something on Google Play and it would not connect. I was getting it on my cell signal but that was before I turned on Advanced calling. I was out of town for a conference and would see it while I was on the phone and email was trying to sync. Things that make you go hmmmm.

This happened to me tonight for about an hour. I tried everything but eventually it came back on it's own but only on 3g.

Oaklands said:
Same here. My phone was sitting beside me and had been getting calls and text messages all day long. I picked it up to look for something on Google Play and it would not connect. I was getting it on my cell signal but that was before I turned on Advanced calling. I was out of town for a conference and would see it while I was on the phone and email was trying to sync. Things that make you go hmmmm.
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The exclamation point means that the WiFi or cellular signal aren't getting connectivity. The reason that turning signals on/off works is because you force them to reconnect.
You're getting these indicators because for some reason, your WiFi and cell signal are dropping out. If you were at a conference for a few days, then it makes sense you would see that on WiFi (since conference centers notoriously have horrible WiFi; especially when you have a few hundred people all trying to use the WiFi at once). If you saw it on your cell signal, then for whatever reason the cell connectivity dropped out for a moment.
This also happens on other phones. Have you ever tried to use internet connectivity on another phone, only to have it not work? You see full signal strength; you see the data indicator look like it's trying to push / receive data; but for whatever reason, you're not getting data for the moment. This isn't new to the Moto X Pure. It happens on other phones as well. The only difference is that the Moto X Pure tells you its happening.

Honestly, I really don't remember it happening on my previous phones. I'm not saying it did not happen but if it did it was not on a regular basis like here. My business is in my home. I have a wireless router downstairs and upstairs. It has already happened twice today.

I regularly get connection timeouts when browsing the play store, surfing the web, and using xda. On both WiFi and cellular data. I'm assuming its a software issue.

I believe that the cell bars with an exclamation point means that you have voice but no data connectivity. That's the way it has tested out for me over the years on various Android phones. So, you can make and receive calls, but not data.
I think, but am not sure, that the exclamation point with the WiFi icon means that the OS connected to the WiFi access point but not the Internet. That would indicate a handshake issue between the phone and the access point/router, maybe resulting in the phone not receiving an IP address or something. Though I've only seen this happen once or twice over many years, disconnecting and reconnecting the WiFi (turning it off then on on the phone) usually clears the problem.

Just sent mine back as my signal issues really hindered use of phone. Was hoping for ROM before return deadline to see if it would fix it. But that has been slower than I thought. Tried everything in the book to fix this issue. Doesn't matter if I'm in excellent coverage or not. Screen off phone goes 1x then screen on stays until I play around with settings or hidden menu. This is on Verizon. Tried new sims. Wonder if Verizon is doing something to limit these unlocked phones.
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Easy thing to check, make sure your SIM is properly seated.
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TheKlic said:
Easy thing to check, make sure your SIM is properly seated.
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That was a given. New nano sim not trimmed down micro. At first I had trimmed my g2 micro sim which I thought was reason for issues at first. I have a friend at local Verizon store who is more knowledgeable than usual CS agents. Still couldn't get anything to stick. Hidden menu setting for network always switches back to lte ,gsm CDMA auto prl. Phone was purchased through amazon. Hope its just hardware related. Gonna go to best buy and pick one up there. Easier to deal with them.
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jmileti said:
That was a given...
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Gotcha. I work in tech support, so I'm used to starting from the basics
Best of luck!
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TheKlic said:
Gotcha. I work in tech support, so I'm used to starting from the basics
Best of luck!
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Liked the phone so much. I decided to reorder. Will have today. Here's to hoping it fixes my issue. Lots of signal issues with the custom ROMs right now. Especially Verizon users. Hope it gets ironed out soon. This really makes me think Verizon is doing something even though its not a carrier phone.

It's not necessarily a phone issue. My wife's Moto X 2013 and my Moto X 2015 had this come up on both phones at the same time, exclamation mark by both wifi and lte signal icons. Rebooting phone didn't help. Calling still worked, data did not. I went in and rebooted my router, and the exclamation marks went away on both phones.

I gotta try that.My fiance's X 2013 always gets it in the apartment.Maybe I should try to get her a new sim as well?
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I had this happen to me today. I had installed an app that was burning through my cell data, used 90% and I have two weeks left on my billing cycle. I turned of cell data because even with just routine phone useage I did not see the 10% lasting. However after doing this I could not connect to wifi. I have full strength signal and it says it is connected but there is an exclamation mark by the wifi meter and nothing will connect to the internet. I turned cell data back on, and it connects, but wifi will not. I found that by running my vpn it connects and now I get data via wifi through the vpn. If I shut the vpn off, no more wifi data. WTF??? I've researched and this seems to be a lollipop issue on several different phones. I've tried every solution I could, (except for those that require root). Has no one found a solution for this? Motorola?

Tanker Bob said:
I believe that the cell bars with an exclamation point means that you have voice but no data connectivity. That's the way it has tested out for me over the years on various Android phones. So, you can make and receive calls, but not data.
I think, but am not sure, that the exclamation point with the WiFi icon means that the OS connected to the WiFi access point but not the Internet. That would indicate a handshake issue between the phone and the access point/router, maybe resulting in the phone not receiving an IP address or something. Though I've only seen this happen once or twice over many years, disconnecting and reconnecting the WiFi (turning it off then on on the phone) usually clears the problem.
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i have sprint, so yes im without data sometimes and the exclamation point comes up when there is no data on the bars

Mobile data not going inactive when wi-fi connects?

So when I first got my V20 (VS996), when wifi was connected the mobile data went inactive- at least I'm presuming so, the '4G' was grayed out, not crossed out, and when there's simply no 4G signal it entirely disappears (or drops to 3G etc). But now it ALMOST never does this anymore... every once in a while it will, but there's nothing specific about times it does.
I'm pretty sure that's what it's supposed to be doing, as there's even an option 'Cellular data always active - Always keep mobile data active, even when Wi-Fi is active [...]' (not enabled). I've searched high and low for a setting that could be causing it not to work right, and information about this, but have come up dry. Is anyone familiar with this? Really didn't want to have to reset and track it that way.
Thanks.

Bad WiFi signal bro. Disable your gsm data and see if you can still watch YouTube.
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fafalone said:
So when I first got my V20 (VS996), when wifi was connected the mobile data went inactive- at least I'm presuming so, the '4G' was grayed out, not crossed out, and when there's simply no 4G signal it entirely disappears (or drops to 3G etc). But now it ALMOST never does this anymore... every once in a while it will, but there's nothing specific about times it does.
I'm pretty sure that's what it's supposed to be doing, as there's even an option 'Cellular data always active - Always keep mobile data active, even when Wi-Fi is active [...]' (not enabled). I've searched high and low for a setting that could be causing it not to work right, and information about this, but have come up dry. Is anyone familiar with this? Really didn't want to have to reset and track it that way.
Thanks.
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developer options
keep mobile data always on
as well as agressive wifi to cellular handoff
as well as under advanced for wifi, you can tell it to switch more agressively off wifi under poor conditions etc

somemadcaaant said:
Bad WiFi signal bro. Disable your gsm data and see if you can still watch YouTube.
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Bad WiFi doesn't seem to be the issue. It's showing max strength and is 2 feet away from the wireless router under my desk, and the issue still persists. (yes, youtube plays fine in HD)
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developer options
keep mobile data always on
as well as agressive wifi to cellular handoff
as well as under advanced for wifi, you can tell it to switch more agressively off wifi under poor conditions etc
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I'm trying to get it to turn mobile data off, not hand off to it even easier. Are you saying that these options will make it disable mobile data when wifi is good, when it's not even doing that without them? Tried that just in case, it's still not deactivating mobile data (still at my desk, wifi router for 100mbps symmetric fiber showing full strength 2' away, so unlikely bad signal)
Edit: I may have found the issue. It appears one of the Verizon apps was forcing the cell connection to stay alive. I tried killing a bunch of the ones I wasn't using after recalling how their voicemail app only runs over cellular, and now mobile data is deactivated. I'll need more trial and error to confirm which one was doing it.. I killed 4 of them.. and it stayed off after re-launch so was clearly some kind of bug. Although it's odd as it did persist through reboots.
Edit: Confirmed; it's the 'Caller Name ID' app. Ending that single process restores the normal mobile data deactivation when wi-fi is good.

So another cause of this problem has popped up. After a reboot, 4G was becoming active after 15-30 minutes despite not touching the phone at all since the reboot, and there were no apps that could be killed to get it to switch off this time. But after a lot of trial and error, the cause was finally isolated: The My Verizon data meter widget. Once it refreshes, it forces cellular data to stay on, even when Wi-Fi is connected and strong. Once the widget was removed from the home screen, 4G never came back on while using WiFi.
Is there any way to disallow an app from using 4G but still allow it to use WiFi? I really would like a better solution than just not being able to use the widget. It would be fine if it just connected, got its update, then disconnected... but no, it's on permanently after a refresh.