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I've googled this problem an no one else seems to have it. I'm presently running the stock T-Mobile HD2 ROM (2.10.531.1) and have downloaded the Bing application directly from the Windows Marketplace. When I'm using Bing for navigation it sometimes crashes (rarely) but mostly just shuts down (always). I immediately go in to task manager and see that Bing has shut off completely for no apparent reason. I don't really want to flash a new ROM right now because I misplaced my unlock code and am still stuck with at&t. I suspect it may be a problem with the ROM, but really have no idea what's causing the problem. No other programs display this behavior and I have no problems whatsoever with the phone or OS. Any insight into this problem anyone? Thanks in advance.
I'm on a stock 2.13 ROM and Bing does crash/close on me occasionally. It's inconvenient when it does, because you have to start it up, choose your last destination, etc.
Try uninstalling the app and then reinstalling it again.
@p_synthesis
Thanks for the response. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the application a few times through a Bing cab that was floating at XDA and have also done the same with the Bing app directly from the marketplace and I get the same problems. I have also installed on the storage card and on the internal memory, and still the same problem. Well at least I know I'm not the only one with the problem. This is a fairly major problem as it causes a major inconvenience when using the navigation.
Yeah, mine is doing the same thing, HD2 is stock except for cookies. Although, strangely I was using the navigation today for couple of hours and it didn't crash once. Sometimes seems to get hung up when losing signal momentarily at the same time it needs to do a reroute, although in that instance the app locks up but doesn't disappear. I've only had bing navigation for a few days but as long as doesn't crash too often, and Microsoft puts a little more time into this app to polish it up a little it will be something handy to have. Things they can add to Bing I would like would be to display the current speed with the posted speed limit, options on font sizes, and API to allow other meta data to be displayed if available (speed traps etc). However, I think when Google gets around to adding navi to the WM platform they will have the product to beat. I have a Garmin Nuvi now which I pretty much utterly despise hence I will be using my HD2 for navigation for the time being using Bing. I definitely need to get a adapter for car use though as the HD2 really sucks down the power, even more when the GPS is active.
Problems with Bing turn by turn with voice navigation.
Don't feel bad. Bing has died on me regularly while using voice turn by turn directions on both the stock rom and on elegencia......my theory is it's getting to areas of no net signal, panics and the program exits...would seem to me the stupid program could cache the whole trips from the beginning or at least give a friggin beep when it's gonna die and offer to "resume" from where it left off on restart. Sometimes I give up and just have it print me the directions....been eyeing google maps more and more.
Bing shuts down on HD2.
Thanks for your replies gentlemen. Thing is I never had this problem on my HTC Touch Pro. I was running an NRG WM 6.5 ROM on that Touch Pro and never encountered one single problem with Bing, whether it was a 5 min route or 200+ road trip. I find it amazing that such a popular/useful app on the Windows Marketplace is so glitchy with such an important and popular device. BTW I too have Cookies Home Tab, but I shut down Sense and run SPB Mobile Shell and still have problems with Bing. I will flash to an NRG ROM in two weeks, and will report then.
i have been having the same problem on my tilt 2. the only time i have been able to get it to work is when i have a stock rom or close to stock. if its a rom that can recognize my phone as a tilt 2 bing navigation always works great. i can never get it to work on energy roms : ( m.bing.com wont even load right on energy roms cause the site cant tell what phone im using. drives me crazy cause i love the energy roms but i really want to use bing!
I have been having the same problem as well. Closes after about 10-30 seconds of navigation. Stock rom with tmobile HD2.
Uninstalling and reinstalling bing fixed it for a day, now nothing I can do fixes it.
Been using waze as a secondary, but I would love to find a fix for this.
Bing gets update, maybe fixes crashes?
I just installed the latest version of Bing which can be found at this link (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ce-cadd-4c37-b3a6-14b7d72626f0&displayLang=en). I haven't had a chance to test the navigation because I'm at the office, but everything else runs very smooth even after toying around with it for about 5 minutes (previous version stalled or shut down on my HD2).
I've only been using the latest version for a very short time, but so far it seems to be much better. I used to get a crash basically every time I used the turn by turn. I was using it quite a bit today, and not one crash. Hopefully that will continue. I'd definitely recommend updating to the latest version if you haven't already. Can't find anything new in the latest version though. Anyone find a change log?
Peace
Dan
Crashes on latest Bing update
Hate to report that on my way back from home Bing crashed during navigation on the latest update. It was fine for about 15 minutes, then the screen froze and I couldn't exit the application. I had to perform a soft reset. This is really frustrating and only reinforces my hatred towards Microsoft for releasing such buggy ****.
I've noticed this too, however, for me it seems to only happen when the phone becomes hot. As soon as the phone cools down it works fine for me. If you have AC in your car hold it in front of the air vent for about 30 seconds and soft reset and it will work fine. As long as it is kept cool it wont shut down.
Also try using navigation without plugging the phone into a car charger as it seems to generate a lot of internal heat while charging. Besides you should get 2-3 hours of navigation if you start with a full charge and that should be more then adequate for most trips.
I don't know why it shuts down automatically but this seems to work for me
Alternatives.
I haven't tested extensively but the Dutty N4S Legacy HD2 ROMS seem very stable with Bing. Here's the link (http://htcpedia.com/htc_dutty_legacy/reviews/rom-builds.html). Or you can try an Android build and use Google Maps navigation, also extremely stable and a pleasure to use and explore. Here's the link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787189).
I have the same problems with both bing and google map, the phone reboot itself after about 10-15 minutes of navigation, I have latest stock ROM with original SPL, OS: 5.2.21913, Radio 2.15.50.14. I have no additional application installed.
I believe this hardware issue since i know many people has the same annoying problem.
HD2, T-Mobile, USA
I have been out of the scenery for a while. Is the Android development completed that is 100% working on the HD2?
I didnt want to install something that was not totally developed.
Is it running now?
although my phone is working just fine with Winmo.
Are you serious?
Did you even read before coming back into the 'scene'??
As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.
engelsione said:
Thanks.....Hmm.....as much as I love my HD2, and with Winmo is running 100% perfect! why add Android wich is at 80% functional on HD2.
Android.....might as well get an Android phone.
As for me;......my hd2 will stay with my Kumar's Rom and shell 3.5.5 and running on win 6.5.
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I honestly don't believe winmo on HD2 is 100%...If we want to say 100% working, I would boldly say that winmo is NOT 100%...It works but still got it's own set of problems...I have problems left and right, even after switching roms...HTC touchflo not working properly, messaging glitches, constant reboot to remedy lockups...I just got fed up...Put on Android...Not everything works but the majority of it work and that's good enough...I only go back to WinMo for GPS (android got this working already) and transfering BIG file (movies, tv shows, etc)...
One thing for sure about Android is not experiencing lockups...I almost NEVER reboot android. In a week, Android is used 90% of the time and 10% on WinMO...This is just the opinion of a single person (ME) but I'm sure many felt the same way too.
So to recap, there's no such thing as PERFECT. WinMO on HD2 aint perfect and so does Android on HD2, but Android on the Galaxy S, Nexus One and Droid aint perfect either.....
No build is ever 100% perfect not even the iPhone in fact.
The Android is pretty much 90% (or less dependent on build) for me for everyday use. I enjoy mattc's Nexus One build a lot since I can dial down the 3G to EDGE in fact.
I am testing a lot of crazy builds but I prefer the Desire and Nexus One (the latter especially) the most for the builds. Using Dutty's ROM at the moment to see whether I get extended battery life.
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because android on the hd2 while not 100% perfect, is better than most native devices.
not to mention that apps like
camera 360
snap photo pro
retro camera
wide arrange of sound boards
wide range of home replacements
DB meter
Spectrum anyliser
its a complelty new and so much more fun phone, that is no longer limited to closed software that costs a fortune.
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This^
I've switched to Android 2.2 on my HD2, for one reason of the Marketplace. Apps for Android are just so much better.
memin1857 said:
As of 29 August it is daily usable with these missing features/problems:
- No internal memory (NAND) boot yet.
- Auto Backlight (light sensor) is not working. (But fix is posted in git)
- There are frequent touchscreen freezes if phone is moving and autorotate is NOT disabled.
- Battery calibration might be problematic.
- PPP data is not stably working for everyone. (RMNET data is also slow beucase of mtu workaround)
- Some people still complain about some BT devices.
- Wifi hotspot not working yet. (It is made but not yet posted)
- USB tethering works with rmnet but not with ppp yet.
- Call volume/speakerphone volume may be lower than optimal.
- clrcad.exe in winmo is still required for sound in android.
- Background audio may affect call audio.
- Compass is off.
- Some people complainig about gps not locking, but is probably because of data not working properly.
I think all these are unimportant and current builds are daily usable with the workarounds. (autorotate=off most important)
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Awesome summary, thanks.
my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..
D4rkSoRRoW said:
my hd2 is still heating up like **** when using android, i hate that!
im not gonna use android fulltime as long this isnt fixed :/
and the touchscreen freezes are fking up everything too, disabling autorotate is a no go, cause i dont know another way to rotate the screen, and im only writing in landscape..
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this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down
I can't wait until the HD2 boots the Android Rom natively and we can remove all traces of the archaic Windows Mobile.
veda_sticks said:
this is fixed, if yoiu would just read the damn forums.
Install setcpu. sorted, the cpu is now scaled depending on how much processiong power is needed. it ramps down to 250mhz when screen is off or when not much is needed, and it scales upto 998mhz when it needs full power.
i run android 90% of the time now, it only gets hot when im charging (which is normal) or im running something processor intensive (which is also normal, same happens in winmo) leave it alone and it cools down
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im sry, im reading the forums and even saw that with setcpu, but nobody told that it fixes the heating problem
ty, im trying now
Hi guys first post, so no flaming. (your found of flaming here !!)
I have been running Andriod on my hd2 for 2 weeks now, and it works prefectly, Super fast, battery us lasting around 18hrs, same as on stock rom. But the most important feature is that it saved my HD2 from the bin. It really is different beast and for the first time in six months I have enjoyed being a HD2 Owner.
It is working great
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FroyoStone Sense - Version 3.1
i use this version without any problem everything working
and there is no touch freeze or anything
you can use it in your daily life
Guide:
If you get SoDs as often as I do, you might be getting mad. in fact, you might even go back to WinMo! But, try this tip out.
[0] Disable automatic phone lock / screen time out. (I'm not sure if Aldiko does this)
[1] Download the Aldiko app from the Android marketplace (before you ask, yes, the eBook reader one.)
[2] Start the app and click one of the included books.
[3] Slide your finger from the top left corner of your screen to the bottom left corner of your screen. This is your new "locked" screen.
[4] To unlock your screen, hit the home button and go to your home screen, or phone button and go straight to your phone.
[5] Next time you want to lock your screen, just start the Aldiko app, it should already be a blank screen but if not just slide your finger down again.
Question: Is there any way to make the power/hang up hardware button on your phone start Aldiko?
While I appreciate your creative work around, I've not experienced a hard freeze or touch screen freeze in almost a month.
If your juggling android builds, this can cause corruption in some cases, and can result in said-per SOD.
If your working with an older build, the g-sensor can cause a freeze, but its not quite a hard freeze unless you fiddle with it to the point of it not recovering.
If your using Set CPU and its clocked on the lowest settings, this can cause hard freezes via it being clocked too low to wake up.
These are the main reasons that I've found for my own SOD. My suggestion? Use a WM Rom built specifically for android. Use a RECENT build that specifies that most everything is working. There are some new chefs out there working on builds that aren't quite as polished as some of the more experienced chefs.
Good luck, and may you never experience an SOD again!
M&ate said:
While I appreciate your creative work around, I've not experienced a hard freeze or touch screen freeze in almost a month.
If your juggling android builds, this can cause corruption in some cases, and can result in said-per SOD.
If your working with an older build, the g-sensor can cause a freeze, but its not quite a hard freeze unless you fiddle with it to the point of it not recovering.
If your using Set CPU and its clocked on the lowest settings, this can cause hard freezes upon wake up.
These are the main reasons that I've found for my own SOD. My suggestion? Use a WM Rom built specifically for android. Use a RECENT build that specifies that most everything is working. There are some new chefs out there working on builds that aren't quite as polished as some of the more experienced chefs.
Good luck, and may you never experience an SOD again!
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The thing about the Windows ROM is bringing up this question. What is the best WM ROM to use? I'm using Miri's V17 but it sucks so much it can't even get the flipping time right... I really hate it, what should I change to?
I'm using ChuckyDroidRom, and its working out pretty well for me. But I cant say its the BEST.
M&ate said:
I'm using ChuckyDroidRom, and its working out pretty well for me. But I cant say its the BEST.
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I'll give it a try. Anything is better than a POS that can't even get time right... should probably try Elegancia too, hearing good things about that.
Im using an old energy rom from back in june i believe and i will get a random screen freeze. Maybe one every 3 days. thats it. and my radio is still on 2.10 and i can get through a day of normal use with just one battery. Someone had referred to that aldiko app but thats too much trouble. If your getting that many SOD's then reformat your memory card, add a fresh android build. And try not messing with setcpu. Im using the froyo build by tytung and its running great.
+1 for not having anymore freezes. I have not had 1 freeze in the last 7 days using latest darkstone froyo build. Im also using a old full energy rom from july. Also a class 6 8gb memory card.
I think with all this work that has been done on these kernals and builds have REALLY reduced the SOD's.
Hi Guys,
I've been using Android for few days, but GPS performance isn't quite the same as WinMo (w/ GPS moddriver). Its quite bad actually lock normally takes 3-5 minutes on a avg and sometimes it does not even take place compared to WinMo on which its mostly under a minute
I've tried GPS status application AGPS data download..but for me installing GPS status make the GPS performance even worse..is it working for you guys?
I came across a software GPS Boost..has anybody tried it, Galaxy S users have reported a good feedback...does it work well on HD2 also..the reason i'm asking is its because a paid app..has anybody tried it? Any other tips?
I'm using MDG Sense clean v2.4 build with MDJ 6.1 Kernel...
Regards,
Mafioso said:
Hi Guys,
I've been using Android for few days, but GPS performance isn't quite the same as WinMo (w/ GPS moddriver). Its quite bad actually lock normally takes 3-5 minutes on a avg and sometimes it does not even take place compared to WinMo on which its mostly under a minute
I've tried GPS status application AGPS data download..but for me installing GPS status make the GPS performance even worse..is it working for you guys?
I came across a software GPS Boost..has anybody tried it, Galaxy S users have reported a good feedback...does it work well on HD2 also..the reason i'm asking is its because a paid app..has anybody tried it? Any other tips?
I'm using MDG Sense clean v2.4 build with MDJ 6.1 Kernel...
Regards,
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Try running QuickGPS on WinMo before booting in Android (if this works, repeat at least once every week). This has been reported to help for most.
StephanV said:
Try running QuickGPS on WinMo before booting in Android (if this works, repeat at least once every week). This has been reported to help for most.
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yeah i'm doing that...still the performance is no where near WinMo
thats weird, for me GPS performance in Android is better then winmo
Hi,
when i go jogging and want to log my track with a gps programm (e.g. RUN.GPS) all is working fine, while my display is on.
If my phone goes to standby, gps is shut off - so i get no log for this time. If i wake up my phone, i get a straight line from my last known position before the standby to the actual position.
Anybody knows how to fix this? Or does anybody know an app, which is logging the track while my phone is in standby?
This behavior is only watched with gingerbread roms. Not only on HD2, on Desire HD too.
I use Runkeeper, and don't get this issue. Might want to give it a try.
I have the same problem with Endomondo.
Is there anyway to lock and turn off the screen, but keep the phone on?
It seems like the GPS log works better when listening to music (Spotify), maybe it's because the phone is "alive". Any chance of someone making a app just for that, to keep the phone alive? With a setting for how often it should "get alive".
I use endomondo on the HD2 running gingerbread and I also have the same problem. I have to agree that you need to play music in order for it to log your GPS continuosly.
Waiting for a solution for this...
I to have been looking for the answer on this one! For quite some time! devs just seem to ignore it?!!?!?!?! I am still using froyo as I can't live without tracking
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give a try to latest gps libs v1.9 from tytung http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100114
they have a modified gps.xxx.so which allows gps to work on standby.but for it to work the gps program must support this "type of running" (device on standby and program works i mean)
can anyone verify that gps now works in standby for the apps cardio trainer and mm tracker.
well after no replies i took the plunge yesterday and thought i would try to see if the new gps libs made a difference. And i can confirm that at least with tytungs gingerbread build tracking in standby is working a dream.
Many thanks for all your hard work tytung