Can the Evo sync with a computer like the Motorola Atrix? - EVO 4G General

So I just watched a video on the Motorola Atrix, and Wow! I want those features. I'm wondering if any of the geniuses here at xda are working on, or know of a way to make the evo sync with a laptop like the Atrix does with it's netbook type device. This would be amazing. Syncing it with the tv like they do with the Atrix would also be a plus. Is this something Google is behind, or is this all motorola? either way it's pretty sweet, but I like Sprint, and not so much At&t. not interested in trading my new phone either, but man that stuff looks useful. Hope someone has some ideas, thanx.

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hurrycaine3000 said:
So I just watched a video on the Motorola Atrix, and Wow! I want those features. I'm wondering if any of the geniuses here at xda are working on, or know of a way to make the evo sync with a laptop like the Atrix does with it's netbook type device. This would be amazing. Syncing it with the tv like they do with the Atrix would also be a plus. Is this something Google is behind, or is this all motorola? either way it's pretty sweet, but I like Sprint, and not so much At&t. not interested in trading my new phone either, but man that stuff looks useful. Hope someone has some ideas, thanx.
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Nope, can't do that. There is however an app available now (it's in beta version) that allows full hdmi mirroring to a tv. You just need the app, a special kernel, and an hdmi cable. I've been using it lately, it works nicely. Search in the development section for "full hdmi out"

it would be really amazing, and worth some money to me, if one of the bright minds at xda put their mind on trying to make something like that work for the evo. it would seem that your just porting the software, but that's why i'm not cooking roms. I just don't know enough about the limitations

Last I heard it doesn't "sync" with the netbook. What it does is function like a laptop dock; the netbook takes over as the input device(s) and screen for the phone.
I could be mistaken though.
However, in the event that I'm right, all you would need is the full HDMI out to a HDMI-capable display, and a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Of course, since Sense is crappy closed-source on everything but the kernel, you can't really implement this too well. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a "webtop" mode in CM8 though...

drmacinyasha said:
Last I heard it doesn't "sync" with the netbook. What it does is function like a laptop dock; the netbook takes over as the input device(s) and screen for the phone.
I could be mistaken though.
However, in the event that I'm right, all you would need is the full HDMI out to a HDMI-capable display, and a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Of course, since Sense is crappy closed-source on everything but the kernel, you can't really implement this too well. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a "webtop" mode in CM8 though...
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Nice, so in theory Gingerbread could do it? if that is the case however, the $499 retail price on that netbook looking device that the phone docks into, is pretty steep for a screen and a keyboard. guess I'll have to wait and see what comes a long in the months following.

While were on the topic of "atrixing" the Evo, why hasn't there been more monitors released with an HDMI IN feature (like a TV). I cant seem to find anything that looks compact enough to make a small lapdock without looking ghettofied.

norkoastal said:
While were on the topic of "atrixing" the Evo, why hasn't there been more monitors released with an HDMI IN feature (like a TV). I cant seem to find anything that looks compact enough to make a small lapdock without looking ghettofied.
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http://www.newegg.com/
Your argument is invalid.
--Swyped from my EVO

First let me say the Atrix is cool, and it's awesome to see a new cool design like this. BUT, the dock is basically a monitor, a keyboard, and a battery. It adds nothing to the computing power of the phone, and at $500 you could have netbook or a tablet that's more capable. That being said,i still think it's pretty damn cool.
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To those that said it can't be done, wrong, try again. Updated hardware aside, ALL Snapdragon based devices with a usb port can do what the Atrix does from a hardware standpoint, ALL OF THEM. Here's why, the Snapdragon family has usb host built into design.
Here's what's missing:
1. USB host (software)
2. Standard USB device drivers (they do exist)
3. Full UI out via USB to DVI adapter for device without A/V out ports (hmm, software)
4. For devices with A/V out ports, a cable and, let me guess, software
5. Lastly, a KB/mouse, USB hub and a screen or combine the three and you have the Atrix lapdock
The core tech is available, has been for close to 10 years now.

Guys the "laptop dock" is actually a full blown netbook that is software crippled. The only thing it uses the phone for is the internet connection and file storage.

Rakeesh_j said:
Guys the "laptop dock" is actually a full blown netbook that is software crippled. The only thing it uses the phone for is the internet connection and file storage.
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That's incorrect the "laptop dock" its just a shell housing a screen, keyboard, trackpad, and a battery. Its powered by the phones hardware, and a hidden linux os that is built into the phone.
Would be cool to have something similar on the Evo. But I wouldnt pay $500 for a dock that's insane. 0.o

Cole28 said:
That's incorrect the "laptop dock" its just a shell housing a screen, keyboard, trackpad, and a battery. Its powered by the phones hardware, and a hidden linux os that is built into the phone.
Would be cool to have something similar on the Evo. But I wouldnt pay $500 for a dock that's insane. 0.o
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I think it's stupid. Just buy a dual core netbook for $325, use dropbox, and tether your phone to it. Same thing. Plus you don't have to deal with Moto's bum ass Linux build.
What I'm waiting for is a dock/sync that scales Android/iOS/WebOS/WP7 to a desktop OS. WebOS and maybe WP7/Windows8 look like the most likely to get it right the soonest.

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Nook Owner thinking about buying SGT

I'm currently owning a Nook Color. I wanted it for reading books, reading pdfs (I can't find a lagfree Android pdf Reader!), browsing web and playing around.
I'm not happy with it. I'm from Germany, I payed about 300€ all in all for it with taxes and shipping costs.
I simply miss that I can't get any accessoires for it, that I don't have mobile Internet and the touchscreen makes problems.
I don't have a cellphone currently, I'm thinking about getting a case that let's me use my iPod as cellphone. But somehow I'd rather have a Samsung Galaxy Tablet, because I don't like it to have a device that wasn't ment to be an tablet and really is not a good tablet and together with the case for the iPod (70€) the SGT isn't a lot more expensive.
I think that I would still get about 200-250€ for my NC. I saw the Samsung Galaxy Tab for 350-400€on ebay.de.
What do you Samsung Galaxy Tab owners think, should I sell my NC to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab or should I stick with it?
PS: can one actually connect the tab to a TV with a video cable?
Well, I think you will get a lot more with the Galaxy Tab.
Overall I find it very usable and I enjoy it. Files in PDF can be read using Adobe reader and many others. I got Documents to Go and it gives me ability to read and edit MS format documents as well.
The Tab has everything that regular laptop has, plus GPS, compass, and cellular phone. You can get maps and navigation any time your need. GPS works better than on any phone because of the better antenna. Signal to noise ratio is more than 10 times higher. It should be noted that it supports Wifi at 5GHz in addition to 2.4GHz.
You can also make and receive phone calls while listening music through Bluetooth.
Overall Nook has a small fraction of the Tab's functionality.
Connecting the Tab to TV requires HDMI multimedia dock and HDMI cable with a small form factor connector on the dock side. You can also use Wifi streaming.
I would definitely vote for the Tab.
I'm in the DC area, i'm selling my galaxy tab for $350
Hi Diemex,
I use my galaxy tab in exactly the way you describe, I'm a postgrad student so I read ALOT of pdf files on my tab using Repligo to add comments to them and dropbox to sync with my desktop. I use Miren browser for 90% of my home web browsing and pulse reader for getting the news at Uni.
The tab is really stable on the modaco rom, but development isn't as fast as the NC, sometimes I wish there was more development, then I remind myself that functionality wise the tab has all the bases covered. When better kit comes along that the devs favour I will upgrade once the price falls. Until then the tab ticks all the boxes for me.
Edit: I'm waiting for an RCA cable to.arrive so that I can plug it into a T.V. via a scart adaptor.
The Tab is a good step up from the NC.
The rca cables are cool and allow me to stream movies and play games via the tab.
Protected movies like ones from the samsung movie site do not play through though
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I should have waited
dannyxda said:
I'm in the DC area, i'm selling my galaxy tab for $350
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I am in the area too and wanted to get a T-Mobile one... And ended up paying a pretty penny.
To respond to thre OP--the size and hardware are its best attributes.
The software is a total nightmare. It is slow, no updates in sight, missed key presses ... I am annoyed. I am not even trying to do anything complicated with it! No rooting, no cooked roms, just stock device.
It's like they are pushing crap and once they sell the stock they move on to other versions.
Save your money. Samsung built this thing well but it is half-baked and the developent on it has just fizzled out on this site. I have very limited skills or I would be porting and helping.
Oh, the Nook Color thing. KEEP IT. It is much better quality and the development for it is still rockin. Hello, it has a Honeycomb port. The Tab is nowhere near that and again, devs have moved on it seems.
sbrownla said:
To respond to thre OP--the size and hardware are its best attributes.
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Thats what I like about the NC too.
The software is a total nightmare. It is slow, no updates in sight, missed key presses ... I am annoyed. I am not even trying to do anything complicated with it! No rooting, no cooked roms, just stock device.
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I didn't look to bad to me.
I did all the rooting, overclocking stuff with my NC and it simply didnt make the device better.
Save your money. Samsung built this thing well but it is half-baked and the developent on it has just fizzled out on this site.
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The more limited a device it the more devs & hackers are interested in it....
For what should I wait - for Honeycomb Tegra 10.1 inch tablets?
I want a small versatile tablet for a good price
Oh, the Nook Color thing. KEEP IT. It is much better quality and the development for it is still rockin.
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I also thought that that is a big plus. But it doesnt compensate for it lacking a lot of hardware. And the quality of it is definetely not better than the SGT. The case is creacky and I'm getting frequent qhost taps and times when the display isnt working at all.
Hello, it has a Honeycomb port. The Tab is nowhere near that and again, devs have moved on it seems.
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Great a Honeycomb port, have you ever tried that port out? It's completely useless. I've been changing firmwares and kernels and all that stuff for the last 2 weeks and still ended up with froyo being the best.
I take my NC with me everywhere nearly, but it just has not enough functionality, and I'm thinking of leaving it simply at home to read books.
Personally, I am totally in love with my SGT. I have rooted and have overcome ROM 1.2.1 with the new overcome 2.0.1 kernel, and it is just awesome Although I liked it beforehand, and it was certainly well usable, the ROM/kernel made it a lot better.
I take mine absolutely everywhere, and it does everything for me.
Yeah, I have seen some of those Honeycomb ports, not the nook one but other SDK ports on other devices.... to be honest, personally, I would rather wait for the source to be released and a proper port to be done. These SDK "Ports" are just horrible. (Not trying to hijack at all, but really guys? You all really want a nearly totally non-functional port? First thing everyone will do is ***** that things don't work, but I digress)
In the meantime, my tab works Great I would definitely recommend one, especially if you like the portability a 7" device offers. From what I understand the screen is similar to, if not better than, the NC for book reading, and that is one thing my tab is used for a lot.
It is also my phone, portable media player (plays pretty much every format I've thrown at it, and plays 720p and 1080p stuff quite smooth, obviously scaled down for the screen res but still), portable Internet, and all round mate impresser
I don't think that there will be any affordable 7 inch tablet coming out this year (for me^^).
Also if they have better hardware and stuff like that - it would be simply like putting a porsche motor in a opel corsa (or some other car).
The companies try to make the customers believe that when one has a device with a better/great hardware, that one can automatically do more with it, or that it runs better.
With all the great tablet-apps that support dualcore processors that will definetely be the case this year. (sarcasm).
I can't think of a better 7'inch tablet for this prize (~350€)
At this time I can see only one future contender in the same 7inch category: HTC Flyer.
It promises scripting capability using bluetooth stylus that might be very useful.
I had a quite a few Palms and used scripting a lot. Also I had two HTC Android phones and built quality was very good.
the only thing that makes it better is that "magical" pen, but it's going to be 699$ and it's not out yet.
dannyxda said:
I'm in the DC area, i'm selling my galaxy tab for $350
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So am i! same place and price. its the vzw version
{Diemex} said:
the only thing that makes it better is that "magical" pen, but it's going to be 699$ and it's not out yet.
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Actually i'd say that the fact that HTC have stated that it will get Honeycomb is more interesting than the "pen" IMO.
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Dave
SGT will also get honeycomb, if not from samsung, then definetely from the devs or hackers.
I've got both and the tab is definatly a better choice.
@op by reading your remarks I can tell you are a pretty smary consumer. go with your inner voice and get the tab.
Unless ofcourse you just want to wait and see what coming but I doubt it will be much different in the near future.
Galaxy Tabs.....Worth every penny!!
Just picked up a SGT from VZW for $170 w/2yr contract.
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Nice,
Just went back to stock,
pdfviewing works great and fluent, I think stock is the best choice for standard consumer.
But still I'm quite sure that I'm going to buy the tab, it's going to last longer, or I think I will use it longer.
I looked at it at a local Shop,
put in my sdcard with apk's and pdfs, I was just messing around, trying out everything, the tab could even open my 350mb 250 pages fallout 3 game guide, nook takes for ever to load it.
It simply looked like the perfect all in one device that I was actually looking for, somehow got the Nook to try the tablet thing out, now it's time to upgrade my tablet.
rob61280 said:
Hi Diemex,
I use my galaxy tab in exactly the way you describe, I'm a postgrad student so I read ALOT of pdf files on my tab using Repligo to add comments to them and dropbox to sync with my desktop. I use Miren browser for 90% of my home web browsing and pulse reader for getting the news at Uni.
The tab is really stable on the modaco rom, but development isn't as fast as the NC, sometimes I wish there was more development, then I remind myself that functionality wise the tab has all the bases covered. When better kit comes along that the devs favour I will upgrade once the price falls. Until then the tab ticks all the boxes for me.
Edit: I'm waiting for an RCA cable to.arrive so that I can plug it into a T.V. via a scart adaptor.
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Well your wait has finished:
www.expansys.it/samsung-galaxy-tab-cavo-tv-out-204239/
Note that this way the tablet works with its own battery when tv connected differently from the powered hdmi dock
I was bitter yesterday. Very bitter.
I wish I still had my Nook Color sometimes, but I am coming to realize exactly how much potential the Galaxy Tab really has.
I just need to learn to be more patient.
Ommmmmmmm.

EVO 4G Tablet Dock (Concept) UPDATED

Hey Guys,
I have had this idea for a while and just got around to making some concept renders of a tablet that the EVO would dock into.
This 10.1" tablet would work only when the EVO is docked in it (a la Atrix 4G). The tablet would utilize the camera, headphone jack and processor of the EVO 4G, while using the mini HDMI and USB ports to transmit data and images. There is an internal battery, front facing camera, volume rocker, mini HDMI, and mini USB port on the tablet to make using the device easier.
Advantages of a tablet dock:
-Less expensive (after phone is purchased) than a standalone tablet
-Real integration of phone and tablet (contacts, pictures, apps etc)
-Keeping bulk to one side reduces the torque on the wrist and makes the tablet seem lighter
-Using existing phone to power the tablet reduces the amount of internal components, reducing the thickness of the majority of the tablet
-Uses phone service instead of a separate data plan
Disadvantages:
-Dependant on phone specs (CPU, WiMAX, etc)
-Not compatible with other phones (although I think Google should standardize phone connections and locations)
I would love feedback and suggestions, and keep in mind this is a first gen concept. I will be updating this based on what people have to think.
I have created a sliding dock for my phone which holds the phone firmly in place and connects HDMI and USB in a sliding case (Sedio Innocase with HTC Media Dock modified to fit). This will be used in the prototype tablet.
Enjoy!
Edit: Here's the Atrix 4G dock, as mentioned above:
http://www.cellphonenews.com/wp-content/uploads/cc003c27Laptop-Dock.jpg
And here are multi-touch screen overlays, which I believe work over USB
http://www.22miles.com/hardware/multi-touch-hardware
edited renders to change orientation of the phone.
Added images of dock prototype
wow, this looks ridiculously amazing!!
Holy crap! I was literally imagining something exactly like this last week. Awesome work!
Can I has now? Please!!!!
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So what exactly do you do with this concept? Sell it to a manufacturer?
m4rk0358 said:
So what exactly do you do with this concept? Sell it to a manufacturer?
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I emailed it to HTC and Google but there are a lot of gaps still obviously.
I have no desire to make money off of this, just to get something like this in the market. Maybe a job would be nice haha
The only problem I see would be running honeycomb only when docked unless we plan on always running honeycomb
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The only problem I see would be running honeycomb only when docked unless we plan on always running honeycomb
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haha thats just me being hopeful. It could run gingerbread or icecream
I'd buy this.
Another cool thing about it, it could run off of the Evo's service. You wouldnt have to get an extra plan to use it.
I'm not sure what the Atrix is, but were you thinking something like the phone in that motorola commercial where the guy is in custody at the airport, and trying to tell the cop that its a phone, AND a computer?
Now, if we can just get the batt issue fixed on our lovely evos; I'm wondering whats needed to power the lcd?
davilu said:
Now, if we can just get the batt issue fixed on our lovely evos; I'm wondering whats needed to power the lcd?
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could have its own battery right?
jasongthang said:
I'd buy this.
Another cool thing about it, it could run off of the Evo's service. You wouldnt have to get an extra plan to use it.
I'm not sure what the Atrix is, but were you thinking something like the phone in that motorola commercial where the guy is in custody at the airport, and trying to tell the cop that its a phone, AND a computer?
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Yeah it would just be an extension of the phone, service and all. The atrix is that phone you mentioned with the laptop dock, but they use a custom linux operating system that boots when the phone is "docked". This could either just mirror the existing OS or could load honeycomb or some other operating system.
This is awesome and all. But again, how will touch inputs work? Has anyone attempted to get clone the screen, via HDMI, to a touchscreen panel and have it work both ways on inputs?
That all happens at the hardware level, PCB, etc., etc.
This is an excellent concept but unless the phone is built with being able to use an EXTERNAL touchscreen it's not going to work.
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could have its own battery right?
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yeah exactly, just like the Atrix laptop dock.
There's definately room there for three flat batteries between the screen and the and case. If the can fit batteries in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or the IPad 2, they can do it here.
Thank for all of the responses, I guess I'll have to make some new renders soon with the phone and different angles to keep up the interest
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This is awesome and all. But again, how will touch inputs work? Has anyone attempted to get clone the screen, via HDMI, to a touchscreen panel and have it work both ways on inputs?
That all happens at the hardware level, PCB, etc., etc.
This is an excellent concept but unless the phone is built with being able to use an EXTERNAL touchscreen it's not going to work.
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that's the hardest part about this, and you're entirely right. We need some way of essentially splicing into the EVO 4G's digitizer and pretending that the tablet's touchscreen is the same. That, or we can emulate touch as a mouse (which is enabled on custom ROMS) and send signals via bluetooth, which would be very laggy and battery intensive.
I know that you can buy touch screen overlays for netbooks that enable touch over USB, so there is hope! Unfortunately, these usually are single touch and not very accurate, and they are another layer that needs to be applied to the screen.
I think that if HTC or any large company were to create a tablet like this, they would be able to integrate a solution with a phone the way the Atrix works. Hopefully this becomes a trend!
Sweet idea. I'd love to have this set up. I hope HTC likes it.
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a tab that makes calls??????!!!!!!!
where do I buy one? don't give me prices, take mah munny and gimme!
This looks really neat, and with recent HDMI developments almost possible.

			
				
Its amazing. If htc is not interested maybe some chinese manufacturer could help. It is really a good idea.
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How good is the lapdock.

Thinking about getting the Atrix or bionic. I wanted to see how pleased people are with the dock? My plan is to use it as my work laptop. Most if my work is browser based, so my first concern is how does the browser compare to a laptop browser. I do know that it is based on firefox, but is it a full browser? Second is how do people handle printing. Thanks in advance.
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I used the lapdock at work (I'm a sales consultant for bell), I did many projects and reports on it through google docs. Its ideal, good battery life but I hate the atrix. the keyboard wasn't the best but what its meant for 10/10
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I used the lapdock at work (I'm a sales consultant for bell), I did many projects and reports on it through google docs. Its ideal, good battery life but I hate the atrix. the keyboard wasn't the best but what its meant for 10/10
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Curious, why do you hate the atrix?
meh ...
If you can find the dock for $100 +/- I'd say give it a try. More than that, I'd recommend skipping it.
...I have the Atrix and love it
...I also got the dock for $340 and regret it.
When docked the response is very laggy and the touchpad is especially sluggish. The firefox experience is prone to pauses and stutters as well. I haven't tried any of the hacks to see if it improves the experience.
Oh ... and AT&T requires a tethering plan to use the dock via 3G.
---Rob
if you are rooted and running GB then you can use the lapdock without tethering pan like I do. I don't print from it so I can't say for sure about that. Lapdock is very thin and convenient and charges the phone while you are surfing. I use a small USB mouse (keychain) and leave the mini dongle in the USB port all the time. Works better than hotspot and laptop imho. You can also receive and send sms with the keyboard as well. I take Bluetooth calls while surfing and use apps like Netflix.....to me it's great. Not sure if you can print from USB mass storage though.
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When docked the response is very laggy and the touchpad is especially sluggish. The firefox experience is prone to pauses and stutters as well. I haven't tried any of the hacks to see if it improves the experience.
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The touchpad can be adjusted in the settings so that it's not so slow..but otherwise invest in a Bluetooth mouse and you'll be good to go. I find the browsing to be very good actually..and considering most of the time I use it on 3g rather than wifi..it's still very fast (i've used sub $500 netbooks..and the browsing experience absolutely blows on them..unless you're used to Blackberry browsers )
I picked up an external hard drive and formated it to FAT32 and it works great..but I haven't tried a printer yet. I've got a e-printer that I use so no need for usb cables anymore anyways
The only time I really have noticed any lagginess is when i'm playing an emulator game full screen using my ps3 controller.
I think Atrix with Lapdock is really good. It can instead my pc to work with office software.
u can use openoffice for your daily office work.PPT/Word/Excel and so on.
i can plugin to the lapdock usb memorykey?
I too think ths Atrix and Lapdock combination works great for most people that use their laptops for Web stuff primarily. But even office stuff works great, specially after hacking the webtop so one can run Linux apps like OppenOffice and GIMP for example.
I spent $300 dollars on it and don't regret it. I know that's as much as an entry level laptop or average NetBook, but I really think its thinness and huge battery life more than justifies carrying it instead of my heavy and bulky 15" laptop.
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I too bought it for 300 dollars, but I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand, the into experience it awesome, our at least the thought of it. I can run remote desktop for pretty much any pro gram I need. On the other hand, the performance is not add great as you would think. If more ram were allocated to the webtop mode, I think it would be much snappier, along with increased clock speed. I'm going to try using the 1.3ghz kernel later this weekend and see how much faster the dock is.
All that said, I still use it as my daily laptop for classes, and it works fine.
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I got mine refurb for $180. I think it was a good deal.
Pros:
1. Wifi printing is great if you have a networked printer.
2. Firefox is pretty good with good addon support.
3. File browser is easier to use than the one on the phone.
4. Hackability.
5. Keyboard is pretty good.
6. Battery life is AWESOME.
7. Built in Citrix Receiver. This is super awesome if you use this for any kind of work. It's easier to use my lapdock than my home PC w/VPN.
8. USB mass storage support.
9. Very light and sleek.
10. Geek factor- I get all kinds of questions from people, "What is that? I didn't know Motorola made laptops. Oh, cool!" etc.
Wishes:
1. Keyboard isn't backlit.
2. I wish it had a camera passthrough to a bezel-mounted webcam.
Cons:
1. Touchpad and touchpad buttons BLOW. Get a mouse (bluetooth or USB).
2. Slow sometimes. Use an OC kernel and that helps.
3. Can't install stuff without hacking.
4. Firefox is the only real "app" on the webtop (see #3).
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Curious, why do you hate the atrix?
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Hate the Astrix because of the email issue we have with it. Find the screen not as responsive as other phones and moto blur is the worst Android over lay of them all
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It really depends on what you want to do. I have the ubuntu hack installed, use Citrix to remote access office pc, and got Gnumeric running great to substitute Excel. I'd say it's functional enough to really do some light work on it. For anything serious, I'd be silly to use webtop instead of my core i5 laptop, but I'd bring Atrix+Lapdock to Starbucks for its coolness and geekness
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Hate the Astrix [sic] because of the email issue we have with it. Find the screen not as responsive as other phones and moto blur is the worst Android over lay of them all
What email issue would that be. I have a rather complicated email configuration that works well for me.
The Bell mobility Atrix had an issue where no email besides gmail was able to send mail. The Motorola blur was at times un responsive and it was easy to accidentally add your email twice and then not be able to send from either.
As for the speed post, the phone is just as fast as any other.
As for the part where I have no idea what I'm talking about? I sell hundreds of these devices every year, when a phone is crap, my customers come back with their problems! When you get to use whatever phone you want and have responsibility of advising people on which phone to sign a 3 year contract with, I might take your douche comment serious, but with that statement you obviously have no idea what you're talking about; don't bother reading my posts then buddy!
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I just bought my laptop dock today for the ATRIX 4G. I got it for 159.99 on buy.com brand new.
Hope its the shiz nit.
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Lapdock HARDMOD - CottonCandy ICS FXI - NATIVE

Hello
Just wanted to let you all know that although my Atrix is no longer in use, I have the lapdock lying around.
It is a good piece of hardware and I have been toying with finding a way to embed the actual atrix itself inside the lapdock. However, the real problem there is that there is no use for doing that since the Atrix's native dock functions suck!!! I also considered and toyed with the Raspberry, but its not meant for that.
However I have come across this puppy: FXI Tech Cotton Candy
and my plan is to embed it inside my Lapdock and create something actually useful with that hardware.
The FXI Cotton Candy officially supports GB, ICS and now Ubuntu 12.
For anyone who doesn't know what it is:
"FXI Tech Cotton Candy packs more power in a tiny space. It has a dual-core ARM Cortex A9 as its processor and the quad-core ARM Mali-400MP for graphics. Connectivity options include Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and WiFi 802.11 b/g/n. On both ends are USB 2.0 and HDMI out connectors and there’s one micro USB 2.0 connector on the side. It has 1GB RAM and a microSD slot for up to 64GB of expandable storage."
Given its size, it easily fits disassembled into the dock connector that rotates on the actual lapdock.
Does this sort of thing interest anyone?
I'll keep you guys posted as my adventures with that continue.
Sounds interesting and would love to see this kind of thing work.
Good look man hope it works for ya
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Did you pre-order one?
If not, the likelyhood of you getting one this year is almost zero. They have stopped pre-orders as they have filled up on those, and currently have nobody to do mass production for them. Since this is their situation and they have to find someone to build these units, you most likely won't see any this year, as it takes time to complete all the necessary steps to put a product into production. Your best bet may be one of these to test out your idea:
http://www.mobilenapps.com/articles/2246/20120518/74-mk802-versus-200-fxi-cotton-candy.htm
If you can't get hold of one maybe look into the MK802 PC, you might find that easier to add onto the lapdock too looks like it already has a hdmi and a usb so i think you may just have to buy some extra wires and hook it all up. And it's only $74
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/18/mk802-beats-cotton-candy-to-market/
Should work perfectly fine... people have shown that you can connect a PS3 to the lapdock. Only question is: will a regular ICS or Ubuntu 12 have the lapdock drivers..
thantos said:
Should work perfectly fine... people have shown that you can connect a PS3 to the lapdock. Only question is: will a regular ICS or Ubuntu 12 have the lapdock drivers..
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I think that their generic... The fact that CM7 doesn't have any of Motos lapdock drivers yet you can use the keyboard and mouse proves it...
inaudibly said:
If you can't get hold of one maybe look into the MK802 PC, you might find that easier to add onto the lapdock too looks like it already has a hdmi and a usb so i think you may just have to buy some extra wires and hook it all up. And it's only $74
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/18/mk802-beats-cotton-candy-to-market/
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Did you bother to read what I posted in the post before yours? I posted a link for the MK802 already!
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I will be watching this thread. I have an extra lapdock and would love to put a ics stick in it. Very nice idea.
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I will take an attempt at this, I also got some friends that are linux devs. The only thing I need lol is cash... So if anyone has a Hard-Bricked Atrix pls PM me! I could use 3-4 of them donated to fund for this. (I know people who will buy them) If I can get 3 then I can buy everything I need...
You and Alaq have made me **** bricks. I normally figure stuff like this out early on. It's not until now that I've realized that connecting usb and hdmi ports will make the lapdock a sologig. A real upgradeable laptop, how about that?! It would be nothing to find screens of a similar size to replace them in any lapdock model if you wanted to do so. Still ****ting bricks.
srkelley said:
You and Alaq have made me **** bricks. I normally figure stuff like this out early on. It's not until now that I've realized that connecting usb and hdmi ports will make the lapdock a sologig. A real upgradeable laptop, how about that?! It would be nothing to find screens of a similar size to replace them in any lapdock model if you wanted to do so. Still ****ting bricks.
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I knew about it's potential ever since I saw that ps3 video (Either last year or the beginning of this year...), but it wasn't till this month that people started releasing PCs on a stick... But yea it would be amazing for school to have a razr thin laptop that runs smoothly and has 8 hour battery life (probably more because it's no longer charging the phone), and that's why I decided to start on the project (In my sig), I'll release everything when I'm through with it.. I'll have to record everything that I do to the lapdock for you guys...
This one looks really interesting.....in technical side.
But it is not efficient if you compare the price with typical windows netbook
199$ + lapdock price is more expensive than netbook.
AndroidON said:
This one looks really interesting.....in technical side.
But it is not efficient if you compare the price with typical windows netbook
199$ + lapdock price is more expensive than netbook.
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Click the link in my sig, I'm trying this using the A10... And hopefully when I'm done with it I should be able to minimize costs...
Plus where would be the fun if you just buy it... Were gonna mod this to our desires xD
Once you get it sorted, could you make a video showing the performance? I love the idea and have been considering making a sort of 'dummy phone' like box to house a raspberry pi but this little a10 stick computer looks like it could be a better option. For me, it would have to run linux as android on a laptop is just wrong as far as I am concerned It looks good, but would not be worth it unless it is faster than webtop imho.
Thanks for being the Guinea Pig!
It can be interested they are publish source code at https://github.com/FXITech

Clambook - Compatible With iOS and Android

Just saw this on the internet and it looks something that may interest alot of us on the atrix forums. Its basically a lapdock for all phones(iOS and Android).
Take a look for yourself, it looks extremely sexy
Source : Daily Mail
I think with this we may see more content and uses for our Motorola lapdocks.
This better be able to disguise as a Lapdock when of Motoblur. Hopefully it'll be cheaper than a Lapdock.
nerfman100 said:
This better be able to disguise as a Lapdock when of Motoblur. Hopefully it'll be cheaper than a Lapdock.
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Just by looking at I think it will be priced higher than the Lapdock and I'd also like to see how it would work on an iOS device because on Android it would change to a tablet layout
inaudibly said:
Just by looking at I think it will be priced higher than the Lapdock and I'd also like to see how it would work on an iOS device because on Android it would change to a tablet layout
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The 4S has HDMI mirroring with a dongle, it could merely use that. Not nearly as good an experience as Android in tablet mode would provide, but it'd be something.
Does look sexy as hell but if it costs a cent over 199 us no deal
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I want one if:
1. Webtop 3.0 is all its cracked up to be in terms of speed compared to current webtop
2. This actually enables webtop mode and not just entertainment center/mirroring
3. It actually works with the Atrix period
4. It costs less than $250
Looking forward to this!! Minus its name
At the end of the day this is where its leading, Moto has abandoned the webtop on ICS and as is Ubuntu is distended to come on the new android's one way or another.
So why not have an all in one interchangeable lapdock for your mobile device?
The spec are changing in the industry every day, even as much as I bash my webtop into a usable Micro Laptop its limited. So why not pay for this device and then look at upgrading when you can without losing the lapdock. I see the netbook market taking a hit if this thing takes off.
So heres a question, can hdmi/usb be adaptable to MHL?
I never heard of mhl until less than a week ago...
teeth_03 said:
So heres a question, can hdmi/usb be adaptable to MHL?
I never heard of mhl until less than a week ago...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-definition_Link
seems like there is no usb host device integrated into it, so probably its not interoperable with USB, it should be with HDMI though (at least so i assume). But looking at the page for the optimus 4x which has MHL, it seems it should work http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_4x_hd_p880-4563.php -> USB Yes, microUSB (MHL) v2.0

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