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Hi,
since at this point it is unknown whatever updated 10.1 will still run on Tegra 2 or something else (Exynos 4201) I would appreciate your opinion on this matter.
What do you think will be inside?
If two versions will be available which one will you buy?
Of you hear any thing new in this subject - please post here.
Since Tegra 2 has some limitations (video playback) I personally hope it will run on Samsung's own SoC, will play all video formats and divix/xivid with DLNA and playback from SD will work beautifully.
I have an issue with Sammy using their own chip for one reason. When every other phone was running a Qualcomm chip and the Galaxy phones were using Hummingbird chips, there was some optimization in the android code that was not included for Samsung chips.
Since Honeycomb has been built around the Tegra 2 chip, I fear the same thing will happen.
Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.
I want Tegra games more than support for h.264 high profile video playback.
So, I want Tegra
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If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
galtom said:
If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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Assuming he's talking about the PS3 and TegraZone games that require a Tegra chip. Other chips could probably play them, but think Nvidia has it so they look specifically for the Tegra chip.
Not that gaming is my main priority, but I saw all those "Tegra optimized" games on the Tegra Zone.
They are all nice games
It will be sucks if they don't perform as expected on non-Tegra tablet.
Because as I said, I could care less with that H.264 high profile. I can still "convert" them or stream (via future app ala AirPlay on iOS).
galtom said:
If you want games you should wait for a SONY tablet ;-)
Why do you assume that it will have a worse performance in games than Tegra 2?
I think that it will be better than T2 in both cases.
BTW: thera are gossips of new Moto tablet coming out around fall with T3 (QUad core Tegra) inside...
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by this summer, tegra2 will be one and half years old since announced, and tegra3 will be only half year away
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More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.
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More than likely, Samsungs SoC will be nearly identical to the Ipad 2's A5 SoC, which has already shown to be several times faster in the gfx department vs a Tegra 2.
Also, the Tegra 2 is missing the NEON optimizations in most other A9 SoC's.
So I put my vote toward Samsung's SoC.
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But like all great hardware, it's only as good as the software it runs. I'd rather have the Tegra if it has exclusive content or specialized support from Google.
Bandage said:
Don't believe HC was built around Tegra2...hence the reason for no Dual-Core spec requirement. Hell, it's up and running on devices of all sorts as we speak.
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There were news reports that Google was going to make Tegra 2 the reference platform for Honeycomb but that never happened. Now it looks like Google is working with LG to come out with a Nexus tablet this summer so it'll be interesting to see what they are putting in that.
Personally I hope Samsung steers clear of Tegra 2 and goes with their own SoC.
Isn't LG already releasing the G-Slate? Are they gonna release another one in the summer? Thats just not a great strategy me thinks.
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
There is also Asus Transformer to choose from.
bd85 said:
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Besides Touchwiz, I say it depends on how you're going to use it. If I decide to get a tablet, it'll most likely be the new Galaxy Tab because (I'm going to assume here) that it'll most likely play any video and audio format I throw at it. I think that's the big difference (codecs) between the two as of now besides Touchwiz.
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In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
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If true that would be the best news of the current tablet season as Tegra 2 sucks BIG TIME!
I would also want to know.... how close in design is Apple A5 (the one in iPad 2) by Samsung to Exynos by Samsung
I wouldn't mind if it had their proprietary SoC as what really matters in these tablets is the GPU. It seems the T2 chipset is getting a bit long-in-the-tooth despite not being heavily utilized yet. If Samsung is pairing with the Adreno 220 then that's better than the Tegra 2.
bd85 said:
In sweden there is now a IT fair called Dustin Expo, and one off or bigger computer sites reported that Samsung not going to use Tegra2 like the other manufacturers.
They will use there own dual-core ( probably Exynos ) and Adeno 220.
Starts on 2min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ggUXvZnbM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Looking forward to hear from Samsung whats up, and what spec the 8.9" will have and some reviews on how good there skinn on HC is.
The hardware that Samsung is about to release i really like, but they sucks on software updates and improve the products thay have released. So should i get the big and heavy xoom whit updates or the light and sleek Samsung without support
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Why would they add an adreno 220, when a Mali-400 would be a lot better? Seems like an odd choice to me. Also that prototype is running Tegra 2(assuming it's the same device that's been shown off at other venues).
Maybe we'll see the Adreno 220s on the SGSII as well?
Wasn't the prototype just a 10.1v?
@Toss3
Presumably, the SGS2 will be equipped the dual-core Exynos clocked at 1.2GHz. I say "presumably" because, just like now, Samsung hasn't revealed the true name of the processor, only the clock speed.
Oddly enough, there will also be a Tegra 2 version of the SGS2.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/06/...ayed-until-may-o/&category=classic&postPage=1
Hi,
I read more and more great games created for Tegra 2 devices. For example this recently:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...s-like-a-total-war-rts-for-your-tegra-tablet/
If I am not mistaken, you can not have that if your device does not run Tegra 2.
Not because your device is not capable, but simply because your device does not run Tegra 2. Probably they use specific code instructions, but this is another "sub-fragmentation" on Android
So, I would rather have Tegra 2 instead of Exynos just for this.
Yeah... That's a notable downside to having many different SoCs, with a couple of different GPU architectures. Some fragmentation is inevitable. However, I'm sure that eventually adherence to OpenGL ES standards will be all that matters.
The quality of the TegraZone games (e.g. Monster Madness and Samurai II: Vengeance) is amazing. However, the Tegra 2 seems to have a pretty low fill rate (at least with regards to its use on a high res tablet). Luckily, after installing a modified kernel with cleaned up GPU code, my Tegra 2-powered XOOM seems to play games at high resolution much more smoothly.
Up until recently, Tegra 2 was pretty much the only dual-core SoC on the block. With the newest Snapdragon and Exynos having much better GPU than the aging Tegra, developpers are gonna have to start supporting more than just Tegra, no matter how much money nVidia is pouring onto them.
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Up until recently, Tegra 2 was pretty much the only dual-core SoC on the block. With the newest Snapdragon and Exynos having much better GPU than the aging Tegra, developpers are gonna have to start supporting more than just Tegra, no matter how much money nVidia is pouring onto them.
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Ditto. Exynos > Tegra 2
As some of you might have heard GTA III is coming to Android, but it isn't coming to S2 at launch, now I'm fine with this but one thing got me wondering is the reasoning:
"there are some other technical differences with the Galaxy S2 that make the development process a special case."
[cannot post source, visit rockstargames.com]
Special case? What makes the S2 a special case to develop for? Anyone have an idea?
ThatBadAssMofo said:
As some of you might have heard GTA III is coming to Android, but it isn't coming to S2 at launch, now I'm fine with this but one thing got me wondering is the reasoning:
"there are some other technical differences with the Galaxy S2 that make the development process a special case."
[cannot post source, visit rockstargames.com]
Special case? What makes the S2 a special case to develop for? Anyone have an idea?
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Most likely they are targeting the Tegra's GPU and using the non-standard nvidia-proprietary texture compressions.
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Most likely they are targeting the Tegra's GPU and using the non-standard nvidia-proprietary texture compressions.
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hope I don't get in trouble for this, here is the source I was referring to:
goo. gl/3dhmQ (remove spaces).
One of the devices it is being released on is the Galaxy R which is a variant of the S2.
The Galaxy R has tegra GPU. In Android, they are releasing it for Tegra devices first.
If you have rooted your S2, use Chainfire 3D to play it.
Frankly, I am not interested in GTA 3. I will be happy if they release Vice City.
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The Galaxy R has tegra GPU. In Android, they are releasing it for Tegra devices first.
If you have rooted your S2, use Chainfire 3D to play it.
Frankly, I am not interested in GTA 3. I will be happy if they release Vice City.
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Does Chainfire 3D affect the performance? In apps that you've tried?
Personally I am not eager to play GTA on my mobile phone when I completed it on my computer. Graphics are much better obv., and keyboard + mouse control > touchscreen.
Just my opinion.
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Does Chainfire 3D affect the performance? In apps that you've tried?
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I have not tried it. But it runs good on S2.
Frankly, I hate touchscreen gaming. Not my cup of tea. I have PSP and PS3 for gaming.
Have you guys tried Super Mario 64 (emulated) on the S2?
Man, if GTA III controls anything like that I'll be more than happy.
^Which emulator is required for that? N64?
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^Which emulator is required for that? N64?
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Yes, N64. I use one called N64oid.
i would say it will run beautifully on S2 using chainfire.. who knows it might run better on the S2 than tegra devices
and if the devs enable support for bluetooth keyboard it'll be far better..
compatibility list:
Android Phones: HTC Rezound, LG Optimus 2x, Motorola Atrix 4G, Motorola Droid X2, Motorola Photon 4G, Samsung Galaxy R, T-Mobile G2x
Android Tablets: Acer Iconia, Asus Eee Pad Transformer, Dell Streak 7, LG Optimus Pad, Motorola Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 and 10.1, Sony Tablet S, Toshiba Thrive
i dont see xperia play here
Do you guys think it was a bad idea for Samsung to not put A tegra in the s2?
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Do you guys think it was a bad idea for Samsung to not put A tegra in the s2?
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NO, the exynos is FAR superior. Try playing main profile h264 on tegra-won't work, at all. Also, its just pain faster. It DOES use proprietary shaders which nvidia bribes devs to use, but if we can run those same games via EMULATION (chain fire) with no lag, obviously the exynos is the better chip. I'm quite happy with their choice (wish it was in the galaxy nexus...)
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Oh I guess I just got sucked into the hype, I mean the word tegra sounds so bad ass
Does it? I make Exynos the better word, as well a better chip. Mali's not as cool as far as words go.. there's not enough Xes in it.
For now I dream of the day they release an Exxxxxynoxxxxxs chipset.
Seriously though, if you're that bothered, you will be able to get gta 3 on your s2. Chainfire 3D will make it possible, although someone will probably have to fiddle a shader and the textures may be slightly deprecated.
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NO, the exynos is FAR superior. Try playing main profile h264 on tegra-won't work, at all. Also, its just pain faster. It DOES use proprietary shaders which nvidia bribes devs to use, but if we can run those same games via EMULATION (chain fire) with no lag, obviously the exynos is the better chip. I'm quite happy with their choice (wish it was in the galaxy nexus...)
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FAR superior is bull****. Without Chainfire MOD you could do nothing.
And Tegra 2 plays also high profile h264 with the right player (diceplayer).
Tegra 2 is reference design for android tablets and the new galaxy tab 10.1 is also Tegra 2!
I too agree that Mali 400 is not FAR superior. Its better, but not WAY better.
both tegra 2 and exynos uses the same cortex A9.. just assume both could run gta3 with exynos chainfired..
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FAR superior is bull****. Without Chainfire MOD you could do nothing.
And Tegra 2 plays also high profile h264 with the right player (diceplayer).
Tegra 2 is reference design for android tablets and the new galaxy tab 10.1 is also Tegra 2!
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Diceplayer does software decoding to play mkv files. This is not good as it means that the cpu is continously running as opposed to the exynos solution where it is means longer video playback time.
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i think it'll run fine through chainfire..i run shadowgun, tegra2 through chainfire 3d and its spot on. i can't see gta3 looking as good as shadowgun...i'd imagine they make a few versions. one for tegra2 devices, one for 'others'.
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Hi,
One thing I havent seen many people talk about is the fact that S3/2 and the Note lack the Tegra SoC. I Kknow Samsung likes to use their own Exynos, but sometimes I hate the fact that I cant run those THD games which admittedly many are quality games. And.in some cases like Riptide and Shadowgun you do get some extra eye-candy over the regular versions. This is one area were the HTC One X wins I think....the ability to play those high quality THD versions of the game. Im also sure you can root and use chainfire, but sometimes I wish the galaxy line would use the Tegra 3 and have the widest game compatibility. For me this is the biggest downside to what for me is.the perfect phone.
Anyone feel the same?
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I hear ya!!!
I really miss my Tegra goodness...
Many will say that by using this or using that you can make Tegra games run on non-tegra devices, and that's partially true, however true Tegra graphics are much better...
There are many shader effects missing on those non-tegra devices.
I would really love to see a Tegra based Note (even though I know that would never happen)...
Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****
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Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****
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Like most tegra 2 devices. I've used moto atrix, lg g2x, acer/toshiba tablets.
They just helping wuth androids biggest problem, fragmentation. This isnt a samsung processor issue, this is up to the developer. Think 360 vs ps3.
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Tegra processors are usually on the low-end of available options.
Eg/
SGS: Exynos 3110 = 170
Droid2 : OMAP 3630 = 160
NexusOne: QSD 8250 = 130
HTC prototype: Tegra APX 650 = 100
SGS 2: Exynos 4210 = 140
Sensation XL: QSD 8255= 130
Optimus 3D: OMAP 4330 = 120
Atrix 4G: Tegra2 = 100
SGS 3: Exynos 4412 = 130
*OMAP Skipped Generation* = N/A
Optimus 4X: Tegra3 = 110
OneS: Krait S4-dual = 100
By having early and direct access to their own manufacturing facility, Samsung can develop chips that are slightly faster than the competition and produce them at lower costs.
Apple tends to strongarm the market with early business deals and access to manufacturing facilities too, though not on Samsung's scale. Fortunately for Apple, they don't need the fastest, they need "good enough" at the cheapest price. Since iOS will run faster than Android, due to better and direct optimizations, Apple's offerings can consequently be even faster than Samsung's.
Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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Rayan said:
Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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I have not seen a side by side comparison but apart from the graphics, how many tegra games are really compelling? I have not seen a tegra game that made me wish i had a tegra device.
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I prefer Mali. So no.
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Rayan said:
Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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When it comes to the GPU, Nvidia are using competitive offerings.
For instance, the one in Tegra 1 (APX 650) was top-tier in its era, but not the best.
This is forgivable as they were new to the mobile market.
With the Tegra2, nVidia did offer a great chip.
It was about on-par/higher than the SGX540... but it was surpassed with the new drivers and higher clocked SGX540 from OMAP4470. And not to mention the quadcore Mali-400 (SGS2) that embarassed it.
With the Tegra3, there's nothing new.
They offer a gpu that was better than their competitors, but the competitors are rolling out their new gpu. Qualcomm with their new Adreno. Samsung with the T604. Omap with the SGX544mp4. In fact the new A5X gpu is superior to the Tegra3 gpu. Don't forget about the PS Vita either.
here's an interesting article: http://blog.laptopmag.com/tablet-chip-showdown-nvidia-tegra-3-vs-the-new-ipads-a5x
Soon, Tegra3 will be a "mid-entry" SoC, or even a "low-mid" one.
The only advantage the Tegra chips have is the TegraZone. Deeper integration of the software to the gpu, that's how nVidia levels the field.
So you are in fact incorrect. They don't blow the competition out of the water!
They fragment the competition, which I believe is wrong. I think that either nVidia must try harder (they're a friggin graphics company!!!) or that the TegraZone enhancements should be in the AOSP and give all competitors a chance to provide the best software (drivers producing, kernels processing, roms consuming) for their hardware.
With greater competition, the consumers win.
I'd rather have the better Exynos processor than some crappy Tegra games which I might show off once and then never play again...
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I'd rather have the better Exynos processor than some crappy Tegra games which I might show off once and then never play again...
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+1,000,000 to this!
Tegra - no thank you!
bamboo12 said:
Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****
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That was Tegra 2. Tegra 3 on the HtC one x and Asus transformer prime flies.
So the myth that Tegra is slow has been shown by Tegra 3
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violentgoomba said:
I have not seen a side by side comparison but apart from the graphics, how many tegra games are really compelling? I have not seen a tegra game that made me wish i had a tegra device.
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Riptide GP...Samurai 2 THD, Shadowgun Tegra 3, Fruit Ninja THD, Bang bang racing Thd...i think are pretty good titles and offrr significant enhancements over the non thd versions.
I love my Note...but I do have to admit that a One X with the Tegra 3 has more game support and is faster.
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nvidia is a GFX Company. They'll pay for people develop stuff for their products.
Tegra 3 is inferior to the Mali 400 MP. Ask the developer to make a version of their game using all Mali 400MP Features.
Blame the developer not the GPU itself.
blue13x said:
Hi,
One thing I havent seen many people talk about is the fact that S3/2 and the Note lack the Tegra SoC. I Kknow Samsung likes to use their own Exynos, but sometimes I hate the fact that I cant run those THD games which admittedly many are quality games. And.in some cases like Riptide and Shadowgun you do get some extra eye-candy over the regular versions. This is one area were the HTC One X wins I think....the ability to play those high quality THD versions of the game. Im also sure you can root and use chainfire, but sometimes I wish the galaxy line would use the Tegra 3 and have the widest game compatibility. For me this is the biggest downside to what for me is.the perfect phone.
Anyone feel the same?
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A few Samsungs run Tegras - they have piss poor performance, abysmal video decoding capability, etc. See Tab 10.1 as an example - the tegra2 in that is a POS compared to Exynos4.
NVidia is always first to up the core count but always delivers poor performance per core.
Similarly, the Exynos 4412 smokes the Tegra 3 when total system performance is taken into account.
It's kind of odd that the SoC that comes from a company whose specialty is GPUs is the worst in terms of 2D video performance (codec support) and average at best for 3D.
On top of that they use some funky texture compression format not compatible with anything else unless you use Chainfire 3D.
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Tegra 3 is inferior to the Mali 400 MP. Ask the developer to make a version of their game using all Mali 400MP Features.
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No. The gpu in the Tegra 3 is slightly superior to the quadcore Mali-400, not a huge stretch.
But each "generation" nVidia have been the the inferior products, especially in the graphics components (irony?). However, they offset this because they're first to market.
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That's exactly right.
Its about the entire offering software AND hardware optimization, not one without the other.
I rather have a 1GB RAM and Tegra2 rather than 2GB RAM and Exynos 4410... just as long as the software is optimized (for instance, lower-level API support using Qt and Mainline Linux.... compared to higher-order virtual engine running on a inferior kernel).
I think your arguments are all invalid. Especially on this forum.
Just install chainfire 3d pro and you can run all those THD games flawlessly and in real world performance mali blows tegra out of the sky.
tegra gets no love nowadays
Darfus said:
I think your arguments are all invalid. Especially on this forum.
Just install chainfire 3d pro and you can run all those THD games flawlessly and in real world performance mali blows tegra out of the sky.
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Even though Chainfire allow us to run Tegra games, it does not do a good job emulating the shader effects present in the actual games. Games look flat and dull compared to the original.
Cheers!
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Rayan said:
Even though Chainfire allow us to run Tegra games, it does not do a good job emulating the shader effects present in the actual games. Games look flat and dull compared to the original.
Cheers!
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Plus it requires rooting. I prefer the support right out of the box.
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has game developers forgotten about tegra 2 and just moved onto tegra 3 i mean i see alot of awesome games coming out such as Horn or the new game coming out Wild blood which is supposed to boast the unreal engine or even bladeslinger but all run on tegra 3 , i mean if i can run Dead trigger highest graphics under clocked with no lag then why move on? even Max Payne mobile highest graphics and under clocked runs fine. is it just devs wanting to work on tegra 3 for the consumer market in it or is tegra 2 just that old?
Yeah it doesn't make sense I'm sure these high end apps could have somethings set up just to scale down settings depending on hardware of the device. Kinda like PC games do which will try to match the best settings for the hardware (which usually is OK)
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BrianDigital said:
Yeah it doesn't make sense I'm sure these high end apps could have somethings set up just to scale down settings depending on hardware of the device. Kinda like PC games do which will try to match the best settings for the hardware (which usually is OK)
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yeah kinda sucks hopefully theyll comeback to it or remake a tegra 2 enhanced version
BrianDigital said:
Yeah it doesn't make sense I'm sure these high end apps could have somethings set up just to scale down settings depending on hardware of the device. Kinda like PC games do which will try to match the best settings for the hardware (which usually is OK)
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yeah i think that also like we THD games for tegra hd, im assuming soon there will be THD versions of the tegra 3 games
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yeah i think that also like we THD games for tegra hd, im assuming soon there will be THD versions of the tegra 3 games
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yeah i guess its just time to upgrade :/ im going with an actual cmputer tab 320 gig harddrive 2.2ghz win7 winpad i think unless i can find a better one i can use for work :/
Maybe all those Tegra 3 only titles are sponsored by Nvidia and Nvidia wants them to be T3 exclusive to attract more tablet/phone buyers. But they showed with Tegra 2 how much they care about the hardware they already sold (we are not even clients to them as we ONLY buy end products with Nvidia hardware).
I think the same will happen when Nvidia presents T3 successor in the future. All THD titles will be made for this next chip and T3 will be forgotten as T2 is now.
I think that developers' decision to support T3 exclusivelly in their titles is Nvidia's doing because developers are actually shrinking their potential customer base (how many T2 tab users is out there comparing to T3 user base). WIthout money from Nv I don't think any developer would do that unless they need so much processing power that T2 is not capable of delivering any more. And @gears177 gave 2 examples that T2 is still capable of running good 3d games even underclocked. T3 is just overkill for most titles.