Excessive 3g data usage - verizon unable to help solve - Xoom General

A coworker bought a xoom on launch day. He is not tech savvy but has been using a droidx for about 4 months with average monthly data usage of 800mb to 1gb. Based on that, we both figured he was good to use the 1gb plan and then upgrade to more data if his usage with the xoom was more than his droidx.
Since launch day, he has used 921mb of data. I have turned off 3g to prevent usage, but we can't figure out what is eating his data. I am assuming it is back country, an app he buses on his dx that maps out hiking routes by using GPS and aerial photographs. I'm guesing that the app isn't setup for a device like the xoom, and some issue is causing it to continually download data.
Anyone else encounternthis problem? Verizon was little help and we are worried about massive overage chargesbespecially because the My Verizon app displays everything used up though 72 hours ago, and in 3 days (once the actual usage though now is displayed) he'll be way over his 1gb limit.
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This is why everyone wants the WiFi Only XOOM...

arrtoodeetoo said:
This is why everyone wants the WiFi Only XOOM...
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Verizon tried to screw me on data - my gf bought me a xoom for my birthday and when she purchased it at a Verizon store, she was very clear with the rep that she was NOT setting up any data plan with the device. The day after I got it (the 26th), I went to the same store to buy the portfolio case. The same rep who sold her the phone asked me several times if I wanted to sign up for 3g. I said "no thanks" multiple times. Yesterday I discovered that I was on a month-to-month contract and I should expect an activation fee and a month of data on my next bill.
I had a rep tell me she was reversing the charges, but I don't trust verizon at the moment. Seems like they are pulling car dealer tactics in order to get themselves a couple extra million in fraudulent revenue.

I read somewhere on here that Verizon reps are forcing people to sign up in order to get the Xoom. When I purchased my Xoom from Bestbuy they didn't force me to do anything. They handed me the box after I paid and I left. When you set up your xoom it asks you if you want to skip the 3G setup, which I skipped. Who ever said that you need 3G to have a working Xoom is wrong. The Verizon sales people are scamming or something.

Tell him to to put it in airplane mode. You can still use wifi, but this will ensure he is not using 3g.
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nubsors said:
I read somewhere on here that Verizon reps are forcing people to sign up in order to get the Xoom. When I purchased my Xoom from Bestbuy they didn't force me to do anything. They handed me the box after I paid and I left. When you set up your xoom it asks you if you want to skip the 3G setup, which I skipped. Who ever said that you need 3G to have a working Xoom is wrong. The Verizon sales people are scamming or something.
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Verizon was initially going to require at least a month of data. They backed off of this and I'm assuming some dont know. If any Verizon store rep tells you otherwise have him contact someone higher up.

androidlurker said:
A coworker bought a xoom on launch day. He is not tech savvy but has been using a droidx for about 4 months with average monthly data usage of 800mb to 1gb. Based on that, we both figured he was good to use the 1gb plan and then upgrade to more data if his usage with the xoom was more than his droidx.
Since launch day, he has used 921mb of data. I have turned off 3g to prevent usage, but we can't figure out what is eating his data. I am assuming it is back country, an app he buses on his dx that maps out hiking routes by using GPS and aerial photographs. I'm guesing that the app isn't setup for a device like the xoom, and some issue is causing it to continually download data.
Anyone else encounternthis problem? Verizon was little help and we are worried about massive overage chargesbespecially because the My Verizon app displays everything used up though 72 hours ago, and in 3 days (once the actual usage though now is displayed) he'll be way over his 1gb limit.
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I saw this App today:
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.rgruet.android.g3watchdogpro&feature=search_result
---> Usage by application (Android 2.2+, unavailable on Dell Streak)
Don't know about Honeycomb support...

I went through 250 mbs in 4 days, half of which was on WiFi. I called Tier 2 tech support and they tried to say a computer would use more and my Incredible is a smaller device, so it wont use as much data.
I average 950-1400 mbs a month on the incredible, doing exactly the same stuff. I might have to rethink this whole idea because of how they structure the data plans. hotspotting off the Inc is dog slow, maybe a radio update will help?

After a day and half I installed the "My Verizon" app from the market to check my usage... over 500MB! I was blown away... I called in and they confirmed it... I switched to airplane mode and switched on only wifi which seems to have taken care of the issue... I switch on 3g only when I am out of wifi.
I have installed basically the same apps as I use on my Nexus S with the exception of the Tegra-specific games. I checked my Tmobile data usage for my Nexus S and I average about 2GB per month... with the Xoom I would be through that in less than a week!
Something doesn't seem right...
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androidlurker said:
Verizon tried to screw me on data - my gf bought me a xoom for my birthday and when she purchased it at a Verizon store, she was very clear with the rep that she was NOT setting up any data plan with the device. The day after I got it (the 26th), I went to the same store to buy the portfolio case. The same rep who sold her the phone asked me several times if I wanted to sign up for 3g. I said "no thanks" multiple times. Yesterday I discovered that I was on a month-to-month contract and I should expect an activation fee and a month of data on my next bill.
I had a rep tell me she was reversing the charges, but I don't trust verizon at the moment. Seems like they are pulling car dealer tactics in order to get themselves a couple extra million in fraudulent revenue.
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They did the EXACT same thing to me. As soon as I left the store I called up customer service and after getting a supervisor on the phone ended up having them completely void out the entire number and month to month contract that they added which I didn't ask for. Why would I pay for their stupid data plans on the tablet when I can tether with my rooted Droid?

Excessive upload from xoom
I have been monitoring my data usage to get a feel for what I use on the 3g
network, I mostly use wifi.. It started yesterday I noticed 40megs of data used on the 3g and 38 of that was uploads. On wifi I see 700mb+ uploaded and maybe 5-7mb downloaded. Im trying to figure out what that tablet is uploading,
there is not much on it. In the first 5 days I owned it I used 1.5mbs of 3g data, yesterday alone it hit 40mb+. When at work I dont touch it much, except for
a email here and there and maybe some info look up but that does not explain the massive amount of data going out from it. Any ideas would be welcome.

arrtoodeetoo said:
This is why everyone wants the WiFi Only XOOM...
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Speak for yourself I like my mobile tech to be well, mobile. I don't want a wifi only tablet but I do want a 4G/3G tablet to have wifi capabilities for when I am home. Your post is your opinion and I am more than willing to bet many many other people feel the same way.

I wouldn't want a WiFi only tablet ever.
In 3 billing days I've used about 100mb of data. Part of this is allowing the market to update stuff while I'm not on a wifi which I will have to be careful about.
My 1st bill is in btw and it was like 65 bucks.... that includes like 5 days of prorated service since my billing cycle apparantly starts on a different day than when I started my service

I keep mine in airplane mode off of wifi unless I really need it.

3g data overuse
I experienced a similar problem where my Xoom sucked up my entire 1GB dataplan in 5 days. I returned the device and said that I would wait for the iPad2. The guy convinced me to stick to the xoom and says if this was an issue people would be going nuts. He credited me the 1GB and bumped me to 5GB free for the next month if I would stick with the Xoom. I REALLY want to like it so I did. Well, the first day of my second Xoom sucked up 265MB, most of which was upload. I got smart an have TrafficStats installed. Turns out that most of the upload ~250 MB was the actually System trying to upload something. All other apps and services amounted to the other 15MB. Looks like I'll be taking this one back if someone can't figure out why the OS is uploaded crap. Part of me wonders if it isn't the fact that the Google Backup is checked. I wonder if it is actually uploaded all of the stuff on my device somewhere? Is it a coincidence that my application total is 270MB and the total bytes sent by the OS is 261MB????

arrtoodeetoo said:
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Give me a break. Not "everyone" wants a wifi only Xoom, it must be nice having the universe revolve around you. There is definitely a market for a wifi only Xoom, but it is stupid to say that this is what everyone wants.
Christ all this melodramatic *****ing is getting old.
I mostly run off wifi at home and the office but definitely need the ability to connect when away from my wifi. I bought my xoom the first day it was out and have been using it ever since. By primarily sticking to wifi I should be able to come in under 2GB a month. It is important for me to have a connection whenever I need it though.

xstat said:
I experienced a similar problem where my Xoom sucked up my entire 1GB dataplan in 5 days. I returned the device and said that I would wait for the iPad2. The guy convinced me to stick to the xoom and says if this was an issue people would be going nuts. He credited me the 1GB and bumped me to 5GB free for the next month if I would stick with the Xoom. I REALLY want to like it so I did. Well, the first day of my second Xoom sucked up 265MB, most of which was upload. I got smart an have TrafficStats installed. Turns out that most of the upload ~250 MB was the actually System trying to upload something. All other apps and services amounted to the other 15MB. Looks like I'll be taking this one back if someone can't figure out why the OS is uploaded crap. Part of me wonders if it isn't the fact that the Google Backup is checked. I wonder if it is actually uploaded all of the stuff on my device somewhere? Is it a coincidence that my application total is 270MB and the total bytes sent by the OS is 261MB????
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Even if it were Google backup, it would not be doing a full image backup every day. No the numbers suggest to me that we are overlooking something in your usage pattern. If you can (and are willing) try leaving the device on but not using it for 24 hours and see what the usage is.
I am not sure that I trust TrafficStats here and wonder if it is "running home to momma" when it can not identify the source of bandwidth usage. I believe the usage, just not necessarily the allocation by application.

I too am surprised by the amount of data my Xoom is consuming.
Typically I use about 1 Gb a month on my D1.
My Xoom has used 1.2 Gb in a week!
I am waiting for VZW to send me my password so I can get their Data Usage widget to work properly on my Xoom.
I have been on WiFi 90% of the time but I didn't realize until a couple of days ago that you also need to be in airplane mode or the Xoom NOM NOM NOM's the Gb's!
I have heard a few of you mention different apps that allow you to view data usage. Which do you recommend and why?
TIA

xstat said:
I experienced a similar problem where my Xoom sucked up my entire 1GB dataplan in 5 days. I returned the device and said that I would wait for the iPad2. The guy convinced me to stick to the xoom and says if this was an issue people would be going nuts. He credited me the 1GB and bumped me to 5GB free for the next month if I would stick with the Xoom. I REALLY want to like it so I did. Well, the first day of my second Xoom sucked up 265MB, most of which was upload. I got smart an have TrafficStats installed. Turns out that most of the upload ~250 MB was the actually System trying to upload something. All other apps and services amounted to the other 15MB. Looks like I'll be taking this one back if someone can't figure out why the OS is uploaded crap. Part of me wonders if it isn't the fact that the Google Backup is checked. I wonder if it is actually uploaded all of the stuff on my device somewhere? Is it a coincidence that my application total is 270MB and the total bytes sent by the OS is 261MB????
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Yeah. There something "funny" definitely going on. There's a similar thread on the Motorola Support forums. Someone over there narrowed it down to auto-sync behavior. If you turn off auto-sync in setting the massive upload stops.
That may solve the upload problem but it should not be necessary! I'm not planning on activating 3G just yet, but after the LTE upgrade I may be more interested in activation. But not if auto-sync is a problem. I guess I could turn it off when I'm not on wifi. It's too bad there is not an option is settings to only auto-sync on wifi. Google are you listening?

Lars1967 said:
I have been on WiFi 90% of the time but I didn't realize until a couple of days ago that you also need to be in airplane mode or the Xoom NOM NOM NOM's the Gb's!
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I have had a xoom since day one and my total wireless usage to date is under 100 MB. I have made extensive use of wifi in that period so I am not sure I buy into the airplane mode being necessary when on wifi.
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Wireless tether

Which wireless tether will work on a rooted glacier? Is thee a way to patch the stock one to work with out the added fee?
Scott Xavier- mind hacker
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I'm using 2.0.5-pre13 off this list and it works flawlessly, but I imagine any 2.0.2 or 2.0.5 would work.
Im using 2.05 pre 11. Works great.
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myrdhyn said:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I'm using 2.0.5-pre13 off this list and it works flawlessly, but I imagine any 2.0.2 or 2.0.5 would work.
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+1 on this version
When did they decide to start charging with the built in tethering? Is there going to be some sort of notification if you use it?
I don't think they are actually doing anything specif as far as charging or disabling the stock setup. They have stated that they will be monitoring data usage (don't know if they could tell the difference between tethering and device only connections).
Therefore, if you are running up the gigabytes through tethering (or bit torrent downloads, etc.), they may take action (I would guess like limiting your connection to 2G).
I am still using my stock tethering, and will be watching my TMo statements carefully.
I normally hit about 8-10gb a month since I use it as my primary internet. I don't p2p, but I do watch Hulu which uses up a whole lot of data. I've been warned via text that I've used more than my share, but I was only throttled down for a day. It was terrible. I was running a speed test and it was consistently under 100kbps the entire day.
I've been using stock tethering.
Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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drzodiac said:
Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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If that is the case, then using a generic Google tethering app with a different port could fix it.
However, mine worked fine yesterday with the stock app, and have not been able to try it today yet.
skyungjae said:
I normally hit about 8-10gb a month since I use it as my primary internet. I don't p2p, but I do watch Hulu which uses up a whole lot of data. I've been warned via text that I've used more than my share, but I was only throttled down for a day. It was terrible. I was running a speed test and it was consistently under 100kbps the entire day.
I've been using stock tethering.
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holy bandwidth abuse batman...8-10gb a month is ridiculous.
When I went into the store to buy my HD2 on launch day, the rep and I were talking about tethering. He said he did it on his Cliq when he needed to and at the time I used to use it on my MT3G when I needed it.
He showed me a photocopy of a bill that someone brought in complaining about...Tmobile finally got tired of this dbag abusing the privilege and charged him .20 per mb for everything over 5gb...the bill was like $1100.00. Even back in March, he told me that they would be tightening up on data usage and tethering because of the HDPA+ rolling out. T-Mobile is not into the business of supplying people with dirt cheap home internet.
He looked at my past and current usage and said I was totally safe. I stream Pandora/Slacker for 8 hours a day 5 days a week...tether occasionally if im on the road or at a hotel that does not offer free wifi...and moderately browse the internet just like everyone else. I have only managed to hit 3gb usage in a single month once...and that was on vacation in Cali when my wife was using my connection to upload vacation photos to facebook.
I know it may impact a few honest people...but I think T-Mobile should charge every customer who exceeds the 5gb cap...maybe people like you could give the rest of us a price break on our plans
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..not true, it work with unlocked phone with at&t so it does not go thru any server of such.
drzodiac said:
Tmobile tech super states that when you start tethering, it won't work you have to cal then up and activate it on your account. the app uses a server port that is monitored and blocked.
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agentaaron said:
I know it may impact a few honest people...but I think T-Mobile should charge every customer who exceeds the 5gb cap...maybe people like you could give the rest of us a price break on our plans
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Um...throughout much of 2009, I was going through 3-4gb per month on my G1...with no tethering and no torrent action.
I hope to move on to the myTouch 4G now that I'm out of contract, but suspect I'll probably break the 5gb mark often when running on that speed...maybe not by much, but it'll happen. If they think I need to be throttled (who are they? the TSA?!) and want to charge me extra for my *normal* mobile usage, consistent with my two previous years' use then I may, sadly, have to use WiFi more often...
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Um...throughout much of 2009, I was going through 3-4gb per month on my G1...with no tethering and no torrent action.
I hope to move on to the myTouch 4G now that I'm out of contract, but suspect I'll probably break the 5gb mark often when running on that speed...maybe not by much, but it'll happen. If they think I need to be throttled (who are they? the TSA?!) and want to charge me extra for my *normal* mobile usage, consistent with my two previous years' use then I may, sadly, have to use WiFi more often...
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I have never come close to touching 5gb...and I use what I think is a lot of data.
...I would bet I use a lot a home, but I do pull some torrents and lots of netflix, hulu, and PS3 content.
As I said in my previous post...I constantly stream music, at least 8 hours a day. I tether for I would say 2-3 hours a week (casual web browsing), and use the hell out of the phones browser and other data services such as Ustream (live podcasts and such)
Here is a screenshot of my current data usage for this month (only two days to go on this cycle)
Same here not even close
agentaaron said:
I have never come close to touching 5gb...and I use what I think is a lot of data.
...I would bet I use a lot a home, but I do pull some torrents and lots of netflix, hulu, and PS3 content.
As I said in my previous post...I constantly stream music, at least 8 hours a day. I tether for I would say 2-3 hours a week (casual web browsing), and use the hell out of the phones browser and other data services such as Ustream (live podcasts and such)
Here is a screenshot of my current data usage for this month (only two days to go on this cycle)
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Why not use the stock one? They aren't doing anything to prevent us from using it
drzodiac said:
Which wireless tether will work on a rooted glacier? Is thee a way to patch the stock one to work with out the added fee?
Scott Xavier- mind hacker
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Well, I use my tethering for Hulu, Youtube, browsing, and chatting. On occasion I'd download a ROM update. Since I do that pretty much daily, I'm sure that's why I ring up such high GB usage. It's probably mostly Hulu. I've been throttled down, but as I mentioned before it lasts about a day after getting the text.
Here's what I got for this month:
I've had tmo for about 9 years, they have never throttled me once... I don't go over 5gb every month, but easily more than half the year. I use it for school work on my laptop, stream slacker and Pandora, stream from my server at home, navigation.
Basically I use it all I want, never worry about anything, and tmo treats me fairly, that's why I'm still with them after all this time.
That's with WiFi use at home
The only reason i use WiFi at home is for the speed bump, my mt4g gets 16mbps down 16mpbs up on my WiFi
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I've been using tmo for ages too. Last month was the first time I got the text warning me for going over 5GB. I was around 9GB's when it was sent to me. This current billing cycle is the first time I was throttled down.
I'm going to cut out streaming video and see how my usage is next month.

Former Evo owners?

I have been debating with myself on whether or not to get a galaxy tab. I was wanting to hear from anybody who was a former Evo owner. Does the tab seem a lot bulkier than the Evo? Would you go back to the Evo if you had a chance? I have seen some belt clips for the tab. Does it feel comfortable or does it feel like you have a book glued to your hip.
Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.
Thanks for the info. If I get a tab it will be to completely replace the Evo as I would be selling(i.e. "giving") it to my brother in law and he would use it on our plan instead of his intercept and I would be using the tab exclusively. He and I both have been disappointed with the Intercept that he has and he would like to get an Evo. The Evo I have allowed me to give up my pmp and just use the Evo. The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.
evo to tab adjustments
Just recently switched from an Evo to an AT&T GT. It definitely takes some getting used to if the Tab becomes your primary phone. I use a headset, but now I realize just how much I fiddle with my phone while I do other things.
As for the additional bulk--I pretend I'm carrying around a day organizer, and it feels less weird, other than the fact that I'm carrying my day organizer every time I get up to go somewhere.
I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?
Lindarose84 said:
Former Evo user here:
In terms of bulk, you'd be surprised to know the Tab is actually thinner than the Evo. Of course you'll be carrying a 7" device as opposed to a 4" device so that does take some getting used to. As a woman, I carry it in my purse so I can't actually answer your question on the holster since I don't use one.
I have completely moved from my Evo to the Tab- I downgraded my Evo plan which, with insurance and taxes less my discount, was around $85/month. I moved it down to the basic Talk 200 which is $29.99 and ported my new Tab number to it and switched my old Evo number to the Tab (keep in mind if you choose to do this, you'll need some old windows phone on the Talk 200 plan since the Evo can only have that Everything Data plan). I did the tweak in the development section and now make and receive calls on the Tab. That in addition to the 2GB data and unlimited texts on my plan leave me set in terms of an all-in-one mobile device.
Ultimately, I'm saving money now. My Tab plan is $29.99 plus the $29.99 for the Talk 200- without insurance, plus taxes and less my discount, I should be paying around $50 a month. While I do miss the Evo, no I wouldn't go back.
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That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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ElAguila said:
I have been trying to read as much as I can in forums about it. Is this correct that the sprint version can be rooted but you cannot flash a recovery image to it?
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From what I read, you are correct. I only flashed the kernel and z4 root, 1.2 goodness.
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nzaw4 said:
That is an awesome plan! I have both the evo and tab from sprint. I would consider leaving the evo, but evo dev community here at xda is awesome plus I have 4g tether...
But still im really considering that option, hopefully sprint will do a material change on thier contracts
Out of curisity, which tweek method did you use?
I can only receive calls with sipdriod and csip. The line2 app wont connect anymore for some reason.
And have you measured your data useage per call?
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I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.
ElAguila said:
The tab would allow me to give up my Kindle as well and have a truly all in one device.
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Just an FYI, but personally I would not give up my Kindle because of my Tab.
IMO, the Tab is great for occasional reading, but the Kindle's e-ink is vastly superior for extended reading.
Your mileage may vary of course, but I'd wait until you've had both in your hands for a few weeks before deciding to drop the Kindle.
Regards,
Dave
Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.
Lindarose84 said:
I'm making calls using CSIP- it took me a looooooong time to get it to work. I kept encountering the error whereas I could receive calls but couldn't make calls. Don't know why. All I did was keep restarting the instructions over and over from the beginning until it finally started working.
That's a good question regarding data usage per call- if there is a way to measure usage per call please let me know and I can test is out. For the most part I'm always on a wireless network. When I leave a wireless network it bounces over to 3G data usage. I think I recall making one call via 3G and it was for 3 minutes so nothing really major. I just checked my data usage online- so far in the 2 weeks I had the plan, I've used 10mb of my 2GB.
While I miss the XDA community roms (was on Myn's ROM), can't really say I ever used 4G (and I live in a 4G area). 3G is good enough for me. HTH.
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Yea csip is not working for out going, but with data tracking, 3g watchdog is great.
I also am running myn too. Its an awesome rom. Finally got the evo to run 20 hours moderate usage onbstock battery with sbc... So kinda sucks to leave my baby
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atoy74 said:
Current EVO and Verizon Galaxy Tab owner. My suggestion is to wait. A slew of new tablets (including the new Tab with dual core processor) are right around the corner. Rumors even say that the Moto Xoom is coming Feb. 17.
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But xoom is priced at 700.... Who knows what type of data plan also
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AT&T top 5% data users?

Alright, I woke up this morning to a email from AT&T saying I'm in the 5% this month.
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This is the data that I have used.
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Is anybody else getting these emails at such a low amount of data use?
It's pretty stupid to say that you're at the 5% when you're only at 5 gigabytes, last month I used 20 gigabytes and didn't get anything.
Also please don't respond if you're just going to say "you can start using wifi." Well I can't, because this is my only way online where I live.
I just hit 8GB when i received the email.
Yeah, they also sent me a text about an hour ago saying,
" AT&T Free Msg: Your data usage this month is in the top 5% of users. Use Wi-Fi to help avoid reduced speeds in future bill cycles. Visit www .att. com/dataplans. "
This is kinda pissing me off now.
There ought to be some sort of audit on this.. I doubt 5g is in the top 5%
AdamOutler said:
There ought to be some sort of audit on this.. I doubt 5g is in the top 5%
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Apparently, anything over 4GB puts you into that category now. Two of my friends who have AT&T got that message and only use around 3-4GB a month.
Way to go AT&T, control your customers and take away their freedoms and what they pay for.
dang 4gbs? what do yall do on a phone to acheive that?
I get to 4gb when streaming video (wink)
At&t does this to try lessen the stress on their network.
They also use this as a scare tactic when users use "free" online services...
At&t should have at least said "Anybody over 2gb, will be throttled."
I highly doubt they even looked at how much data gets used per month before putting this into effect, it's like they just tossed out anything over 2gb as the 5%.
2Gb Warning
I got the message this morning and checked my data usage and it was 2.1GB
I used 13.2GB last bill and I never got the msg.
dang how do people reach so much data use?
I don't know, but The guy I know who works for the big red thinks I used alot of data.
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dang how do people reach so much data use?
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Pandora, netflix, downloads, etc.
It's not hard to go over 2gb in a day... or even a few hours, without tethering.
After years of using AT&T I have never once had data throttled while averaging about 5 GB a months for the past year. still waiting for AT&T to say something because its like that on both my line and my wife's line where we use a combined 10GB a month.
I got the message this morning at 2.1Gb. Funny thing is, my download speeds have actually gotten better. I used to average 2-3Mbps down, 1-1.5 up, but after 3 speed tests, I'm running 4.5-5.5 down, .75 up. Throttle my upload speed all they want, I really don't care. But I'm definitely loving this new download speed. I don't know if this has anything to do with the Cingular 410 APN I'm using on my Galaxy Nexus.
Still, I find it ridiculous that AT&T is allowed to implement this kind of system without a means of releasing their tracking methods. Using the "top 5%" is such a asinine method of choosing who to throttle. IF they went ahead and just told grandfathered customers they would throttle past a particular GB, akin to what t-mobile is doing, it would make a lot more sense. Now, we have users stating they have reached anywhere from 2-13 gigs saying they have been placed in the "top 5%". I'm filing a complaint with the BBB petitioning AT&T to give us more information on how they distinguish who is in the top 5% of data consumption and to give us a better way of tracking our data usage compared to the others placed in the top 5%.
I've gotten the message for the past couple of months. They now say they will throttle at 5gb. Either we need to come up with a work around like tmo guys did on cm7 or I'm switching to sprint. Been with them for yrs now and I used 10 to 25 gb on my old dumb phone razr.
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boborone said:
or I'm switching to sprint. Been with them for yrs now and I used 10 to 25 gb on my old dumb phone razr.
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thats not even possible on that phone lol
and btw good luck with sprint.
enjoy the 75-200kb/s downloads
which is what im getting on the crappiest network, lots of dropped calls etc
im looking at verizon or tmo right now
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thats not even possible on that phone lol
and btw good luck with sprint.
enjoy the 75-200kb/s downloads
which is what im getting on the crappiest network, lots of dropped calls etc
im looking at verizon or tmo right now
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Yes it is possible. Why you say no? I do at least 150+ on my phone now. Always used lots of data, always will.
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boborone said:
Yes it is possible. Why you say no? I do at least 150+ on my phone now. Always used lots of data, always will.
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And because of this we will always be throttled lol. Like that's just excessive in my opinion
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And because of this we will always be throttled lol. Like that's just excessive in my opinion
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I haven't had cable or internet for about 4 yrs now. My phone is my source for tv, movies, news, games, ect.
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Crippled 4G Internet Speeds

I rooted my phone months ago and I think ever since I did, my 4G internet speeds have been very low - like .30 mbps download and .10 mbps upload according to the Speednet test.
I've tried every radio in the radio thread and even went back to the stock ROM ( rooted ) and it remained the same. Does anyone have any suggestions ?
Everything else works 100%.
Sound like you got throttled-tmo has a 5 gig cap per month before you get throttled-Check your data usage for the month. Think if you switch to 2g its a little faster, otherwise you have to wait till your next billing cycle starts
While it may sound like I'm throttled, that isn't what's goin' on cause I've talked to T-Mobile and I'm well below my 2 GB limit. I appreciate your reply anyway.
I haven't been here in a while since I got the Samsung galaxy s2.. I have to agree with you.. You are not throttled. I have been experiencing the same problem even with both phones.. I changed sim cards like three times already. So what I did was called t-mobile they filed a report to the tech engineers to check the towers and their systems will take about 72hrs. So ill be calling back tomorrow (1/16/2012)to find out if they fixed the towers like I was told..the towers might be affecting my speed.. So call them and explain to them and see if they can do the same for you...
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That's funny cause I actually went through that with T-Mobile as well. Eventually they told me it's a problem with my phone. **** this.
Do you live in New Jersey ?
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That's funny cause I actually went through that with T-Mobile as well. Eventually they told me it's a problem with my phone. **** this.
Do you live in New Jersey ?
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No, close, am in nyc, close to Manhattan/Brooklyn...Just tell them a customer/friend has also called and complained about this same situation. i took off work on friday, after dr. appointment, i went to t mobile retail store and we did a test, troubleshooting etc, and nothing...so if they tell you it's your phone what do they expect you to do, exchange your phone, it's ridiculous.. i have both mt4g and samsung galaxy s2, both experiencing the same problems, i told them, actually had a small argument with them, but i'm just waiting for tomorrow and hear what BullSh*t they going to tell me...just make sure if you end up going to tmobile retail store to unroot your phone.. if they ask you to go to a tmobile store..
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Yea, I've been through all that. Let me know what they say
Spoke to them and they still working on it. So we might get a text or check with them later...
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Well they called me today telling me the engineers are still working on it...
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Can you try someone else's SIM in your phone and vice-versa? That narrows it down to the phone or the account.
Last time I went to the States when the prepaid $1.49 day pass still existed, I was being throttled from the moment I entered the country despite not even having a chance to accrue 30 MB of usage. On the second day I bought a new pass and was still throttled. I went to a T-Mobile store and they had nothing to suggest other than that they could try to reset the data (?) on my account. I wanted to try the store's SIMs in my phone or vice versa but they told me all the sample phones had their battery covers glued on so customers couldn't walk away with the SIMs due to a high-theft area.
Anyway, on that second day I used a lot despite the throttling, and in the evening I got a text that I just hit 30 MB and would be throttled. Finally on the third day, when I bought a new pass I had full speed.
No.. T-mobile has acknowledged that they have the problem.. My girlfriend also have the same problem..I will wait till its fixed..I've changed my simply card 3x already..lol
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I called 'em today and just pressed the issue further. I can only think it's their network or towers around here cause when I speed test it now, it could download at 6 Mbps or 0.25 Mbps, so I'm taking that as a sign of them working on it.
I got 'em to take $80 off my bill a couple weeks ago because this is bull****. IT's a been a long time, but I never noticed cause I usually use WiFi and I just downloaded the speedtest.net app like a month ago.
I told them I don't care if they fix it tomorrow, I'm still gonna move on and do business with a different company as soon as I can. Every time I see that silly long armed ***** on their commercial boasting about their 4G speeds, I wanna close my account.

Nexus 4 On Solavei or...?

Hey guys, so I have been with Straight Talk since this phone came out, and I have had it with them. I didn't get throttled this time, they completely shut down my data. I called to ask as to how much I used so I can be aware and watch my usage next month, and they said that they cant disclose that..... WTF So i have no idea if I got throttled at 2GB or 3 or 4GB? I never received a warning either, they simply just shut me down, i thought it was my rom or something...nope. BTW i never download files to my phone and if I do i wait till I am home on WiFi... they did this to my brother too, and I have lost data several times with them on other occasions where they say that they're updating their towers(BS) but I am left with out data for up to 2 days in some cases. Now what good is a smartphone without data? Or yet how are we to know when unlimited is truly not u unlimited.
I have also looked into simply going with T-Mobile prepaid but their expensive compared to other companies for the amount of data they offer.
Anyhow I am looking for another MVNO to go to, the one that is catching my eye is Solavei because they INDICATE that they will throttle you after 4GB. My question is do they throttle you, or do they cut you off like ST?
Anyone have another company that they recommend?
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Hey guys, so I have been with Straight Talk since this phone came out, and I have had it with them. I didn't get throttled this time, they completely shut down my data. I called to ask as to how much I used so I can be aware and watch my usage next month, and they said that they cant disclose that..... WTF So i have no idea if I got throttled at 2GB or 3 or 4GB? I never received a warning either, they simply just shut me down, i thought it was my rom or something...nope. BTW i never download files to my phone and if I do i wait till I am home on WiFi... they did this to my brother too, and I have lost data several times with them on other occasions where they say that they're updating their towers(BS) but I am left with out data for up to 2 days in some cases. Now what good is a smartphone without data? Or yet how are we to know when unlimited is truly not u unlimited.
I have also looked into simply going with T-Mobile prepaid but their expensive compared to other companies for the amount of data they offer.
Anyhow I am looking for another MVNO to go to, the one that is catching my eye is Solavei because they INDICATE that they will throttle you after 4GB. My question is do they throttle you, or do they cut you off like ST?
Anyone have another company that they recommend?
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Amen. I've had it with Net10 also. They shut down my wife's data completely after her family conducted a brilliant tethering experiment and she is at 730MB of 1.5 GB. She needed Navigation for a visit to the frakkin ER and had no data. I'll be hunting a new MVNO soon.
I've seen some feedback on Red Pocket, but it's $60/line for 2GB/Mo. and I've seen some complaints on that too. I haven't seen Solavei in my travels, but let me know what you decide. I'll be tracking responses to this thread for feedback.
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Amen. I've had it with Net10 also. They shut down my wife's data completely after her family conducted a brilliant tethering experiment and she is at 730MB of 1.5 GB. She needed Navigation for a visit to the frakkin ER and had no data. I'll be hunting a new MVNO soon.
I've seen some feedback on Red Pocket, but it's $60/line for 2GB/Mo. and I've seen some complaints on that too. I haven't seen Solavei in my travels, but let me know what you decide. I'll be tracking responses to this thread for feedback.
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Yep tell me about it, and when you call and ask about it, they transfer you to an automated system. In the message it says " If you would like to take your number to another provider, we will happily release it...... WOW
yeah right now I am looking into this post on this website and it looks like Solavei(uses T-Mobile) is the best one....
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/1...locked-nexus-4-american-gsm-networks-compared
I have heard decent things about Solavei, worth a try. They cap 4G at 4GB which is pretty decent for a prepaid carrier.
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Yep tell me about it, and when you call and ask about it, they transfer you to an automated system. In the message it says " If you would like to take your number to another provider, we will happily release it...... WOW
yeah right now I am looking into this post on this website and it looks like Solavei(uses T-Mobile) is the best one....
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/1...locked-nexus-4-american-gsm-networks-compared
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Thanks for the link. You might also want to check this... Airvoice looks ok:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1795278-Ranking-the-Att-mvnos
And you are right about the "releasing your number" message line. That was enough to make me switch just on principle.
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I have heard decent things about Solavei, worth a try. They cap 4G at 4GB which is pretty decent for a prepaid carrier.
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Yeah 4GB would suit us fine. Historical usage is around 1GB /month.
How much data and minutes do you need and what's your budget?
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