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Any CDMA Android users(Eris/Hero) here facing issue with 3G not working despite being in a good 3G area while other Sprint or VZW users having full bars while on your phone it keeps fluctuating between bars or 1X and 3G?
Very reliable for me... coverage in hawaii is excellent
I don't think its coverage, I think is more of a software thing from Googleing around
Yes, i've noticed this the past couple of days. In the same spot in my apartment ill have a strong 3G signal for most of the night, then randomly it will switch to 1x for a while, then sometimes after a phone reboot or toggling mobile internet i'll get 3G back.
I thought it was just a coverage thing but it wouldn't make sense to be, i have 5 bar signal.
Your signal is greatly affected by the weather outside. When it is cold or wet you have the chance of receiving a weaker signal. But when it is warm the signal will extend. This is because when it gets cold the particles in the air move around more causing the air to be denser. When it is warm this is the opposite causing your signal to flow freer through the atmosphere. Hope this makes sense I wrote it on my phone and didn't prof.
So, even thought is sunny outside and the weather isn't too cold(HB got very nice weather right now), the fact that I am sitting down in my living room and the data on my phone went idle as I am searching market place is due to the the weather? Odd....
http://www.the-cell-phone-advisor.com/cell-phone-reception.html Found this to help you understand and in reading it I got mixed up I think in my explanation. Sorry. Also, You don't have to sound condescending when you talk to people about things you don't know about. Or haven't researched.
Thank you. As a note the Eris was having problems with 3G idling and switching between 1X and 3G. An update came out last week to fix that, but some say that update didn't fix the issue.
You think I should exchange my Eris for another one and see if things are better? Or is that not worth the effort?
I don't think it is worth it. If it is only a firmware issue wait till 2.x comes and see if it is fixed. But I wouldn't give up the Eris for any of the other crap Verizon offers at $99 or less
Edit: Who is saying that it didn't help? I am really just curious to read what they have to say not mocking you. Link(s) please.
No I was saying return it for another Eris as I like the phone a lot. Well I am getting the feeling maybe the update VZW brought out didn't fully fix that issue that is all.
I am reading that this maybe an Android issue as my friend with a Omnia on VZW gets better speeds and more bars than I do in the same place.
The eris is imo the best handset verizon offers right now. The moto droid is a close second.
We should call and email HTC complain to them about this issue, so they can have it checked pronto. Please I ask you.
Isnt this just what Hybrid mode does?
So is this fluctuating 3G not normal? My real issue is the data connection being lost all together, which does essentially cause my 3G to come in and out.
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Your signal is greatly affected by the weather outside. When it is cold or wet you have the chance of receiving a weaker signal. But when it is warm the signal will extend. This is because when it gets cold the particles in the air move around more causing the air to be denser. When it is warm this is the opposite causing your signal to flow freer through the atmosphere. Hope this makes sense I wrote it on my phone and didn't prof.
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I'd like to point out a fallacy in your post. What actually happens when something gets cold is the particles compact together, and when they get hot, the spread out. The exception to this is water, which expands when it freezes. This is why it's said you should run warm water over a cap you can't get off. Warm it up, expand the metal and there's more give.
I'm only sharing this to give those with intermittent 3G data to improve theirs as well since I had such good success with it. I know it's strange, and if you don't have any issues with your 3G signal quality than there is no purpose in trying this.
To those of you who have done the hardware GPS fix, this is very similar.
There is another metal tab on the opposite side of the phone, it looks exactly like the one you bend up for the GPS fix.
I was having very spotty and slow 3G covereage, so was my fiance. It would just hang when trying to load websites or using the XDA app. The download arrow would take FOREVER before finally lighting up and going somewhere.
So I opened the phones and bent up that other metal tab, assuming it is the antenna for the phone. I have found out, apparently, it is the WiFi contact. But strangely enough, this has had a huge impact on my 3G consistency.
DarkSandz93 said he noticed two more tabs near the bottom of the phone. You might also bend those a bit to make a better contact. I don't have any pictures of them but With some looking you should find them. I can confirm this fix works without bending the ones on the bottom, but it Wouldn't hurt to try as it will only improve the weak contacts.
When I put the phone back together me and my Fiance's phone both have great consistent 3G and reception went up a bar or two.
I've been testing this for two days and it has definitely helped!
***PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN BENDING UP THE TAB, IT MAY BE FRAGILE*** Take it slow, Its almost flat when you start but you need to bend it up a bit to make a good contact with the antenna.
I'm not responsible for any damage you do to your phone.
Thank you AndroidMonkey for the pic.
Labeled is both the GPS on the left and the Antenna on the right. The one on the right in the one I bent up slightly to improve the contact and get better signal.
http://s305.photobucket.com/albums/nn210/imitebewrong/?action=view¤t=phone.jpg
DarkSandz93 said he noticed two more tabs near the bottom of the phone. You might also bend those a bit to make a better contact. I don't have any pictures of them but With some looking you should find them. I can confirm this fix works without bending the ones on the bottom, but it Wouldn't hurt to try as it will only improve the weak contacts.
Here is a video of my phone browsing AFTER the mod was performed. Before I could barely surf at all, it would take around 5 minutes to load ANY web page. The download arrow would hardly ever light up. These pages are not cached and are using my 3G connection.
I just want to clarify this fix did not improve my actual download speed (kb/s), but made my connection more reliable and steady. Fixed the hanging and having to reload constantly to try and get a connection.
Also, thank you Plato56, who came up with the original Hardware GPS Fix. I would not have ever tried this if it wasn't for KWKSLVR's thread.
UPDATED: I've tried this in many different areas now and it works great. No more waiting on the download arrow to light up.. kicks on and stays on
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I Thought that was the wifi contact and the cell antenna was on the bottom of the phone.
In any case.. I'll prolly give this a shot since the GPS fix worked so well for me. Instead of trying to bend it up though I think Ill follow the lead of some people in the GPS thread and place a small piece of rubberband under the contact. Dont wana have to solder due to breaking the contract a second time lol.
You might be right. I wasn't 100 percent sure it was the antenna. But In any case it definitely improved my signal quality on two seperate phones.
Please let me know if this works for you!
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I'm interested in hearing if anyone else tries it. This sounds very promising!
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sorry to go off topic, but is this real? - http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn210/imitebewrong/storm.jpg
Haha yeah that's real. I took that picture I think in 08. That storm produced a tornado that killed a few boyscouts near Omaha nebraska. I was driving to visit a friend in Omaha and I got hit with 80 mph winds while in my car! It was nuts.
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I can confirm this, when i did the hardware fix i noticed 2 of the same tabs at the bottom and the one on the left that the OP is talking about so i decided to bend ALL of them up and voila getting pretty good signal ever since
haha *sigh* I guess I'll give it a go! Taking the phone apart is a real B*[email protected]# though. I'll report back when it's done
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I can confirm this, when i did the hardware fix i noticed 2 of the same tabs at the bottom and the one on the left that the OP is talking about so i decided to bend ALL of them up and voila getting pretty good signal ever since
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Thanks for sharing, I'll post the option of bending the other tabs in the OP. Doesn't hurt to try.
yea sounds good but don't forget to mention in big giant bold letters to take EXTREME caution so as not to snap any of the connections off, don't want anyone coming back here to ***** at everyone because they made a stupid mistake.
darksandz93 said:
yea sounds good but don't forget to mention in big giant bold letters to take EXTREME caution so as not to snap any of the connections off, don't want anyone coming back here to ***** at everyone because they made a stupid mistake.
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Haha, good point. OP updated.
man i want to try this because i don't have 3g at my place when i'm holding the phone on the bottom. I'm just scared, really scared.
Alright I just tried the hardware fix and I can report that it has not improved my 3g connection dramatically. I'm not sure if I'm under placebo effect but I think it is helping a tiny bit with keeping the connection strong; could be wrong. Report back after some more testing.
I just want to clarify this fix did not improve my actual speed, but made my connection more reliable and steady. before I could barely browse, now i can very consistently go from page to page with no hanging or having to reload many times.
yupp...so the unthinkable ,while having a very heated discussion with girlfriend on instant messenger via computer ,i broke the little copper contact ,,,,
if your as dumb as me (argueing with girlfriend )while bending the little tabs, all hope is not lost i stripped some copper wire out of a phone cord and looped it through the little hole where the copper is attached to the phone twisted it together tight snapped the phone together and did some intense browsing ,seems to be working great
Unless you're using wifi this shouldnt do anything. The tab you are bending is used for wifi only. The tab that is used for cellular is on the bottom.
I tried this, and now my phone is out of commission. Might be a coincidence since I have been doing some modem changes but any thoughts on the matter would be appreciated. I posted in the Vibrant Q&A forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949089
If everything is in place inside the phone and its just the screen you can get it into odin (Plug in USB and hold volume buttons while booting.) and then flash back to stock and warranty the thing. You dont even need to see the screen to do it, your computer should tell you if the phone is connected.
My instructions suck, try these
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848737
I did this too sometime last month and saw an improvement. I decided to take it a step farther like the a couple guys did in the GPS thread did. All 4 of the contacts now have a small drop of solder on them, filed down to the right height, and I am seeing improvements across the board (nothing dramatic, but more of consistency). I need to file 1 down just a hair more though.
So, today I dropped my dhd.... literally 3 feet, nothing crazy..... and it has a full body invisible shield and an otterbox case.... it did land on a corner, wood floor.... now, when I go to wake the phone up.... it turns on. It is randomly powering off since the very, gentle fall.....
It does not make a lot of sense, any thoughts or recommendations appreciated.
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try taking out your cards and battery, the drop may have un seated them
first thing I tried.... clips look good, battery looks good, phone looks great.... when I put in my second battery... it seemed to be running well, until 6 minutes ago, when I pressed the power button... silly phone was off again.
I powered down, ejected all 3 items, placed them all back in.... it was such a harmless fall, with a full protected phone....
sounds like something may have become loose, i sense a rma back to htc if a full wipe etc dosnt solve it
not 100% sure, but after pushing the sim card out and in again... has not happened since.... I hope as heck it is ok, such a simple drop, heh!
thx
I'ved dropped my phone like a thousand times but nothing like this has happend too me!
I think HTC will replace on you warranty for this... Ask them!
sim card not making connections properlly will cause the phone to reboot, as i found out when i first got my desire hd, my 15 year old simcard was too worn to make a clean connection. once i went down to the tmobile shop they descovered it was that at fault after i said the phone was knackard.
simcards will compress very slightly over its life causing poorer connections.
if the problem has now dissapeared it may be worth your while getting a new sim if it is of age.
Hi audiobookman
15 year old simcard
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Is that with the same Network Operator.
Take Care
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Yep, t-mobile has always been good to me (actually the card was 121 printed on it).
Hello guys,
Funny thing, I gave my dad a DHD to play around with (hoping that he will finally get rid of his BB), just a few days ago in his office he mistakingly dropped it 7 floors down to the parking lot.
Amazing, just amazing, except a few bumps here and there, a cracked Sim cover and a bit broken battery cover, the DHD came back to working without and problem.
I am sure if it did not happen to me I would have been sceptic, but IT REALLY HAPPENED.
Thumbs up htc for a strong unit.
I dropped mine from my pocket and nothing happened, not even a scratch.
I'm gonna report an incident I've reported again in the forums.
When I first got my DHD,about one week if I remember well,I went for a drink with some friends.Before we went to the pub we usually go to,we wanted to eat something,so we went to this fast food.While we were waiting for our food,we were saying the usual bull**** we always say with the guys.Sometimes though we tend to pull the strings,and I told one of them off badly,so he decided to punch my leg.Unfortunately,with his full strength,his fist landed on my new,shiny and unprotected DHD,which was in my pocket.As soon as I realised it,my heart went at the kidney's place,the kidney went at my stomach's place and my stomach went all the way to my head out fear!
Next day?My DHD was like nothing happened and my pal's hand was almost broken.
Yep,thumbs up HTC!
yea, it was pretty weird and once in a while... I hit the power button and it is OFF again, not rebooting... off, hitting the wake button turns it back on.... might be software etc....
but on that day, it was happening every 2o minutes, lol
I love htcs design.
Hey, guys. I know there are dozens of threads talking about that, but mine is quite specific. First, the toilet disaster highlights one-to-one:
- phone sitting by the sink, which is close to toilet
- stupid movement and there it was, Skype was on.
- took 3 seconds to ignore all the human dignity I'd had and took the SGS from the water
- removed a crappy silicone cover (this one saved me from a more serious accident) very fast and removed the battery as fast as
- towel, paper-towel, rags
- rice bowl
- youtube video showing disassembly instructions (pretty easy)
- contact cleaner
- rice bowl again
It worked perfectly 24 hours later! Screen on, sound ok... very easy device to open.
Everything was fine until I accidentally hit the voice search and the "sound level meter" didn't move.
Microphone is not working since then. Doesn't work for calls, video with sound, audio note... It works fine with the stock earphone though.
Yes, I restored to factory settings.
Yes, I reflashed and reinstalled the ROM.
When I BLOW (with my mouth) into the mic, nothing happens. But when I SUCK it, the michophone seems to "catch" all the noise. Is this a signal of hope?
I opened it again and sprayed a good contact cleaner, right into the mic. No changes.
ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED!!!
Phone was placed on the sink with "Skype on". Hmmmm
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Phone was placed on the sink with "Skype on". Hmmmm
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Ayup...
Clearly the phone was deeply ashamed of what was going on and jumped into the open toilet to save your dignity.
You sucked on the Mic???
ew.
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Skype, bathroom, sucking and blowing the mic... woah...
Its very nasty
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Lol
I said "loser"...
Guys, rolling on the floor here, but any actual help?
Ahahahahahahahahah
Oh man grodiest i9000 thread ever.
Did you ever think about to replace the mic?? If ya say its easy to open the phone then you wont have problems to replace the mic I actually dont think its too expansive for ya. So actually its funny to read but I fell with ya. But you shouldnt use skype on the toilet my phone is waiting outside of the bath room, when I'm makin the big deal on the toilet xD
good luck dude
24 hours is way to short to remove water stuck between board and smd components. I think you fired it up to soon. Electronics dont repair themselves, once broken you need to replace parts to get things going again.
Only luck or a wallet can save you now im afraid.
Aww dude no way !!!.
I have had my fair share of phones falling into the loo, Luckily not with my SGS, but with my tocco and my spica.
My tocco survived after leaving it dry on the radiator for a day (on low low temperature)
My spica survived but needed a new screen. which was surprisingly cheap (not genuine part)
Just for my own amusement, Was it a number one or a number two you was doing at the time ?
Funny comments, But serious matter. Take their advice and leave it dry out a little more, You could of made it worse by powering it up. But lets not jump to conclusions just yet,
If drying it out for longer dont work. See if you can make a bit of cash by selling it for parts on ebay or similar.
Oh and is it on a contract ? if so do you have insurance ? or are you close to a renewal ?
Good luck, Hope you get a good outcome
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If drying it out for longer dont work. See if you can make a bit of cash by selling it for parts on ebay or similar.
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- I'll always look at parts from ebay suspiciously now.
RedBeardThePirate said:
- I'll always look at parts from ebay suspiciously now.
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Obviously you will have to mention the water damage.
But some people do buy broken / water damaged stuff.
Might not get a lot of money but it could be better than throwing it in the bin
My phone got drowned in the bottom of bag with a leaking water bottle, similar thing, phone worked but the mic wasn't 100% and the center button did not work at all. Purchased a replacement 3 button membrane they call it off ebay for $25 from UK. The mic is built onto this membrane. Funnily enough button started to work the day before it arrived but I will still replace the membrane just to know the mic is 100% as sometimes it comes across scratchy on the other end.
Hope all goes well for you.
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My phone got drowned in the bottom of bag with a leaking water bottle, similar thing, phone worked but the mic wasn't 100% and the center button did not work at all. Purchased a replacement 3 button membrane they call it off ebay for $25 from UK. The mic is built onto this membrane. Funnily enough button started to work the day before it arrived but I will still replace the membrane just to know the mic is 100% as sometimes it comes across scratchy on the other end.
Hope all goes well for you.
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+1
I bought the flex cable keypad wich comes with the microphone. Just 10$ from HongKong. However, 3 weeks to arrive.
u could try drying ur circuit board in an ultrasonic dryer... should remove all the water from it...
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Last time I flooded a phone (lake, beer, boat, he he), I used a food dehydrator. 24 hours in that gadget and all was well. Just last week my brother jumped into the water with his iPhone in the pocket. Same procedure and 24 hours later his phone lives.
As I was walking my nexus 7 slipped out of my hand and fell on the floor. A couple of minutes later I tried to turn on WiFi, but it couldn't get a strong signal. However if I'm close to the router it connects. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
You probably only need to pop the back off, make sure it's not full of grit and fluff, and put it back on again.
Just run your thumbnail around under the back bezel, starting from the middle of a long edge - knives or screwdrivers won't do the plastic any good. Try to avoid touching components and contacts once you have it open. Static won't do the components any good, and fingerprints aren't great on spring contacts.
The cover will easily clip back on with gentle pressure at the edges.
Fuzzra said:
You probably only need to pop the back off, make sure it's not full of grit and fluff, and put it back on again.
Just run your thumbnail around under the back bezel, starting from the middle of a long edge - knives or screwdrivers won't do the plastic any good. Try to avoid touching components and contacts once you have it open. Static won't do the components any good, and fingerprints aren't great on spring contacts.
The cover will easily clip back on with gentle pressure at the edges.
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I did..but it didn't help :/
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I did..but it didn't help :/
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I FIXED IT! I FIXED IT! Thanks anyway for trying to help
Out of interest, how did you fix it?
It's always good to put your solution at the end just in case somebody find the thread two years from now and it helps them. Also, I'm terribly nosy and like collecting fixes in my brain.
Fuzzra said:
Out of interest, how did you fix it?
It's always good to put your solution at the end just in case somebody find the thread two years from now and it helps them. Also, I'm terribly nosy and like collecting fixes in my brain.
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Well.. I'll try to explain it. It's rather simple. When you see the nexus 7 without its lid, search for the two little gold raised up thingies that connect with two little plates on the inside of the lid itself. I just raised them a little bit with my finger so that they could have better contact with the plates. Then just close it and voila. Im sorry for not being all technical with you xD
kittymoonstah said:
Well.. I'll try to explain it. It's rather simple. When you see the nexus 7 without its lid, search for the two little gold raised up thingies that connect with two little plates on the inside of the lid itself. I just raised them a little bit with my finger so that they could have better contact with the plates. Then just close it and voila. Im sorry for not being all technical with you xD
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Interesting. Do any of these spring contacts have anything to do with wifi signal strength?
I own 2 first gen nexus7 stock kitkat never rooted... Both suffer from wifi authorization issues and signal drops..
I just grabed one after reading this, its wifi as usual was not connected. I popped the back off and adjusted all the contact springs. I think there was 6 or 8 of them.. Anyway i got wifi connection right away.. A fluke? Or do any of these springs and the back cover effect wifi?
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Interesting. Do any of these spring contacts have anything to do with wifi signal strength?
I own 2 first gen nexus7 stock kitkat never rooted... Both suffer from wifi authorization issues and signal drops..
I just grabed one after reading this, its wifi as usual was not connected. I popped the back off and adjusted all the contact springs. I think there was 6 or 8 of them.. Anyway i got wifi connection right away.. A fluke? Or do any of these springs and the back cover effect wifi?
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Sorry for this late reply. When I fiddled around with it there were only 2 springs.. :/
No . Problem either way my problem came back.
The fix came from setting up a different security option on the router.
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