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Are we stuck with FAT32 storage?

So, the SD card gets formatted with FAT32. As most of you know, you can't transfer large files (over 2GB) with FAT32. This is a problem when you want to store a full 720p movie on your phone since they usually run 4-7GB.
Any chance of a different format coming for the Evo? I just don't see 720p and HDMI out being all that useful with a 2GB file limit.
How is everyone else handling this? I suppose I could break up a HD movie into 3 or 4 parts and create a playlist for playback on a HDTV, but this is more work than I want to go through.
And what about the rumored 1080p phones that are coming out? Are they going to compress video even more than our Evo to be able to keep file sizes within reason?

wrxlvr said:
As most of you know, you can't transfer large files (over 2GB) with FAT32
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No...the file size limit with FAT32 is about 4GB.

Minjin said:
No...the file size limit with FAT32 is about 4GB.
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My bad. But that's still not 7GB (or more once we start seeing 1080p phones). I've seen people saying the Evo has issues playing files larger than 2GB, do we know why this is?

i think android supports other linux-compatible file systems but those don't work on windows. and fat32 blows.

I, myself, am pretty frustrated over this issue also but even more so over the "EVO does not play files larger then 2GB" issue.
For now what I do is I convert the movies I want to put on the EVO to a .mp4 file under 2GB with a bitrate around 2Mbps. Looks good on the EVO screen but once you put that on the big 50" screen over HDMI you can see the step down in quality, even though I could still call it "HD"

Disk in desination drive full, Cant load 4gb movie

I have enough space, and i cant put a 4gb movie on my phone, 720p mkv.
Im assuming the phone is FAT not NTFS how can i change this or get the movie on the phone?
Thanks

You're right, it is fat32, so no, I don't think that you can. I believe that all sim cards are formatted as fat32. You could go and try to format it to ntfs via windows, I think that could work?
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afive720 said:
You're right, it is fat32, so no, I don't think that you can. I believe that all sim cards are formatted as fat32. You could go and try to format it to ntfs via windows, I think that could work?
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Hmm. I remember from G1 you could format as EXT3/4, but edit: the other half had to be Fat32. Damn.
The thing is, you might be able to format it to NTFS, but that doesn't guarantee that the phone has NTFS support

designerfx said:
Hmm. I remember from G1 you could format as EXT3/4, but edit: the other half had to be Fat32. Damn.
The thing is, you might be able to format it to NTFS, but that doesn't guarantee that the phone has NTFS support
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Yea, But if he's willing to try, he'd find out lol
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We need a custom kernel before we can start adding ext support...
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The phone DOES NOT have ntsc support. The only way you're going to get that movie on you phone is to down-convert it. Handbrake can take care of that for you. Besides, who needs a 1080p bluray rip in their phone.
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bahnburner said:
The phone DOES NOT have ntsc support. The only way you're going to get that movie on you phone is to down-convert it. Handbrake can take care of that for you. Besides, who needs a 1080p bluray rip in their phone.
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...wat?
They're talking about file systems, not tv broadcast formats.
Unless you typoed NTFS.
Also, 4gb movie files are not 1080p Bluray rips. More like 8-9gb for a 1080p, 4gb is a 720p, and you CAN tell the difference between SD and HD on the Vibrant's screen. Not so much on a lesser screen.
Unfortunately for the OP, the phone doesn't support NTFS, so you will need to re-encode the video to a lower bit-rate to get it on the sdcard or internal memory.

raduque said:
...wat?
They're talking about file systems, not tv broadcast formats.
Unless you typoed NTFS.
Also, 4gb movie files are not 1080p Bluray rips. More like 8-9gb for a 1080p, 4gb is a 720p, and you CAN tell the difference between SD and HD on the Vibrant's screen. Not so much on a lesser screen.
Unfortunately for the OP, the phone doesn't support NTFS, so you will need to re-encode the video to a lower bit-rate to get it on the sdcard or internal memory.
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My bad, I meant NTFS. It's my day off and I'm just not waking up. My brain's not fully awake just yet. I do have some 4gb 1080p BD rips. They're made for the PS3, since it has the same issue with fat32. And yeah, you really can tell the difference between HD and SD on the Vibrant's screen. Regardless, down-converting it to 2.5-3gb isn't going to drop quality too bad.

I thought android has a 2GB limit on file sizes.

Get mkv2vob its for the playstation 3 but it will make your dts mkv's ac3 for you and split them for fat32 use and put it in a mpeg container by default.
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Thanks for the info guys =) Downconvert it is

No reason not to anyways other than saving time since the phone can only do 800x480. If you downconvert you got more space to fit other movies in.

[Q] Fat32 file system..

Hey guys,
So I recently tried to transfer finding nemo 720p (dont judge me) onto my internally storage of my atrix, however since it is 4.5 gb file, it denies it. I researched a bit and realized its because of the fat32 file system the internal storage has. Is it possible to change it to NTFS. Or do i have to buy a microsd card? if so, which kind do you guys have?
Thanks!

fat32 won`t let you put any files larger than 4gb, and the atrix doens`t recognise ntfs, so even if you get an sdcard and format it, it still won`t work. You could try to get in SD, won`t be the same quality, but I can tell you it works fine

Re-encode the video at a lower bit rate so that it ends up being smaller than 4GB, it'll be lower quality but no worse than taking some SD version instead.
EDIT: The PenTile screen's graininess will add "detail" that gets lost with the lower bit rate anyway.

He could always ext3 format the card and copy thinggs over in linux

Here's wishing android gets XFS support! Lol, but srsly, ext3 works on droid?
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thanks for the reply guys. thats a shame though, but i guess another option would be to have the video split into 2 parts.

makr8100 said:
Here's wishing android gets XFS support! Lol, but srsly, ext3 works on droid?
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Well... it'd probably be more believable than NTFS, since the Android OS is based on Linux last time i checked.

[Q] Videos larger than 4gb

I absolutely love this device.
Only one condition left before I purchase it:
Will it play videos larger than 4gb?
If I cant make use of its gorgeous 720p screen I'm simply not purchasing any tablet

Umyd said:
I absolutely love this device.
Only one condition left before I purchase it:
Will it play videos larger than 4gb?
If I cant make use of its gorgeous 720p screen I'm simply not purchasing any tablet
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Yes, it plays video larger than 4gb. The only natively supported filesystem for the SD card is FAT32 though. Which means you have to put files larger than 4gb on the internal storage, or use something like Drive Mount to get another filesystem working.
Hopefully a firmware update or custom ROM will address this issue in the future.

perfect.
u rock vegaman!

[Q] unlimited file size?

I want to put bluray movies on my sandisk ultra micro sd 64 gb card to use on my galaxy s5 that i get from a friend. i also wantr to be able to record for as long as I want.What file format will S5 support for this since my s3 couldn't do it. I'm not into rooting so thats not an option.
Thanks,

Bumo
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The format of the SD card is what matters here I believe, I think its Fat32 that you need, look it up, between ext and fat32 one of them can only store files up to a particular size, 4GB if i remember right, I think its Fat32 you need, but like I said, double check..you also won't need to root either. Hope this helps, FYI watching blue ray on a five inch screen is going to be wasted, a ripped BRay would be alright, usually about 2GB and both file systems can take that size.