Are we stuck with FAT32 storage? - EVO 4G General

So, the SD card gets formatted with FAT32. As most of you know, you can't transfer large files (over 2GB) with FAT32. This is a problem when you want to store a full 720p movie on your phone since they usually run 4-7GB.
Any chance of a different format coming for the Evo? I just don't see 720p and HDMI out being all that useful with a 2GB file limit.
How is everyone else handling this? I suppose I could break up a HD movie into 3 or 4 parts and create a playlist for playback on a HDTV, but this is more work than I want to go through.
And what about the rumored 1080p phones that are coming out? Are they going to compress video even more than our Evo to be able to keep file sizes within reason?

wrxlvr said:
As most of you know, you can't transfer large files (over 2GB) with FAT32
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No...the file size limit with FAT32 is about 4GB.

Minjin said:
No...the file size limit with FAT32 is about 4GB.
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My bad. But that's still not 7GB (or more once we start seeing 1080p phones). I've seen people saying the Evo has issues playing files larger than 2GB, do we know why this is?

i think android supports other linux-compatible file systems but those don't work on windows. and fat32 blows.

I, myself, am pretty frustrated over this issue also but even more so over the "EVO does not play files larger then 2GB" issue.
For now what I do is I convert the movies I want to put on the EVO to a .mp4 file under 2GB with a bitrate around 2Mbps. Looks good on the EVO screen but once you put that on the big 50" screen over HDMI you can see the step down in quality, even though I could still call it "HD"

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Disk in desination drive full, Cant load 4gb movie

I have enough space, and i cant put a 4gb movie on my phone, 720p mkv.
Im assuming the phone is FAT not NTFS how can i change this or get the movie on the phone?
Thanks
You're right, it is fat32, so no, I don't think that you can. I believe that all sim cards are formatted as fat32. You could go and try to format it to ntfs via windows, I think that could work?
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afive720 said:
You're right, it is fat32, so no, I don't think that you can. I believe that all sim cards are formatted as fat32. You could go and try to format it to ntfs via windows, I think that could work?
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Hmm. I remember from G1 you could format as EXT3/4, but edit: the other half had to be Fat32. Damn.
The thing is, you might be able to format it to NTFS, but that doesn't guarantee that the phone has NTFS support
designerfx said:
Hmm. I remember from G1 you could format as EXT3/4, but edit: the other half had to be Fat32. Damn.
The thing is, you might be able to format it to NTFS, but that doesn't guarantee that the phone has NTFS support
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Yea, But if he's willing to try, he'd find out lol
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We need a custom kernel before we can start adding ext support...
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The phone DOES NOT have ntsc support. The only way you're going to get that movie on you phone is to down-convert it. Handbrake can take care of that for you. Besides, who needs a 1080p bluray rip in their phone.
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bahnburner said:
The phone DOES NOT have ntsc support. The only way you're going to get that movie on you phone is to down-convert it. Handbrake can take care of that for you. Besides, who needs a 1080p bluray rip in their phone.
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...wat?
They're talking about file systems, not tv broadcast formats.
Unless you typoed NTFS.
Also, 4gb movie files are not 1080p Bluray rips. More like 8-9gb for a 1080p, 4gb is a 720p, and you CAN tell the difference between SD and HD on the Vibrant's screen. Not so much on a lesser screen.
Unfortunately for the OP, the phone doesn't support NTFS, so you will need to re-encode the video to a lower bit-rate to get it on the sdcard or internal memory.
raduque said:
...wat?
They're talking about file systems, not tv broadcast formats.
Unless you typoed NTFS.
Also, 4gb movie files are not 1080p Bluray rips. More like 8-9gb for a 1080p, 4gb is a 720p, and you CAN tell the difference between SD and HD on the Vibrant's screen. Not so much on a lesser screen.
Unfortunately for the OP, the phone doesn't support NTFS, so you will need to re-encode the video to a lower bit-rate to get it on the sdcard or internal memory.
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My bad, I meant NTFS. It's my day off and I'm just not waking up. My brain's not fully awake just yet. I do have some 4gb 1080p BD rips. They're made for the PS3, since it has the same issue with fat32. And yeah, you really can tell the difference between HD and SD on the Vibrant's screen. Regardless, down-converting it to 2.5-3gb isn't going to drop quality too bad.
I thought android has a 2GB limit on file sizes.
Get mkv2vob its for the playstation 3 but it will make your dts mkv's ac3 for you and split them for fat32 use and put it in a mpeg container by default.
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Thanks for the info guys =) Downconvert it is
No reason not to anyways other than saving time since the phone can only do 800x480. If you downconvert you got more space to fit other movies in.

DHD video 2gb limit?

Hey guys,I'm still waiting for my DHD to come...
Anyways!I just wanted to ask whether there is a size limit for playable videos.I remember that on my Desire,I could throw whatever I wanted to it(up to 720p of course) at any bitrate and it played butter smooth.Unless if talking about a full-length movie.Anything larger than 2 gb couldn't be played.Can anyone check if there is something like that on the DHD?
Thanks!
As I remember from manual,DHD is formatting SD card in FAT32,and the maximum size limit is 2gb.We can only hope that in a future they will make NTFS formatting possible(no size limit)
Yup 2Gb is the file size limit of FAT32.
NTFS does have a limit but if your hitting that then, erm, well its a lot lol.
Well...the question might be: why would I want to have >2gb vids?
I played a xvid of 1.5 GB which had superb quality and it worked fine, but, it was a bit of overkill for the screensize, I probably could have done with 1/4th or less of the size to have almost the same quality...
You're right,I don't need more than 2gb,but I have downloaded some movies and it would save me much time if I didn't have to reencode them to fit the size limit.It's not a quality issue.
And for what's mentioned above,the size limit for fa32 is 4GB,not 2.

[Q] Galaxy Tab & Fat32

Hi Everyone...
I Will Be New To Galaxy Tab On Wednesday
I Almoust Studied The Whole Forum...
There Is Just This One Question I Couldnt Get An Answere For...
Everyone Is Watching 720p and 1080p Movies On The Tab...
But How To Transfer 4-5-6-7 GB Movies to FAT32...
Do You Need To Split Every Movie Before Transfering It...???
Or Can The SD CARD Be NTFS?
FAT32 has a limit of 2TB not 2GB. a 7GB file can be transferred to the FAT32 microSD card without problem.
As Far As I Know Is The File Size Limitation 4GB for FAT32...
I Am Danm SURE About That...
You Can Not Transfer A File That Is ONE PIECE And Bigger Than 4GB In Size...!!!
Bulut.O said:
As Far As I Know Is The File Size Limitation 4GB for FAT32...
I Am Danm SURE About That...
You Can Not Transfer A File That Is ONE PIECE And Bigger Than 4GB In Size...!!!
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This is correct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32#FAT32
The maximum possible size for a file on a FAT32 volume is 4 GiB minus 1 byte or 4,294,967,295 (232−1) bytes.
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Bulut.O said:
As Far As I Know Is The File Size Limitation 4GB for FAT32...
I Am Danm SURE About That...
You Can Not Transfer A File That Is ONE PIECE And Bigger Than 4GB In Size...!!!
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I don't split my movies, but I do use Ripbot to condense them down to <4GB so that I can put them on my Fat32 drive. It works like a charm. Let me know if you want details as to how I rip my blu-rays.
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I don't split my movies, but I do use Ripbot to condense them down to <4GB so that I can put them on my Fat32 drive. It works like a charm. Let me know if you want details as to how I rip my blu-rays.
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[Q] Fat32 file system..

Hey guys,
So I recently tried to transfer finding nemo 720p (dont judge me) onto my internally storage of my atrix, however since it is 4.5 gb file, it denies it. I researched a bit and realized its because of the fat32 file system the internal storage has. Is it possible to change it to NTFS. Or do i have to buy a microsd card? if so, which kind do you guys have?
Thanks!
fat32 won`t let you put any files larger than 4gb, and the atrix doens`t recognise ntfs, so even if you get an sdcard and format it, it still won`t work. You could try to get in SD, won`t be the same quality, but I can tell you it works fine
Re-encode the video at a lower bit rate so that it ends up being smaller than 4GB, it'll be lower quality but no worse than taking some SD version instead.
EDIT: The PenTile screen's graininess will add "detail" that gets lost with the lower bit rate anyway.
He could always ext3 format the card and copy thinggs over in linux
Here's wishing android gets XFS support! Lol, but srsly, ext3 works on droid?
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thanks for the reply guys. thats a shame though, but i guess another option would be to have the video split into 2 parts.
makr8100 said:
Here's wishing android gets XFS support! Lol, but srsly, ext3 works on droid?
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Well... it'd probably be more believable than NTFS, since the Android OS is based on Linux last time i checked.

[Q] Videos larger than 4gb

I absolutely love this device.
Only one condition left before I purchase it:
Will it play videos larger than 4gb?
If I cant make use of its gorgeous 720p screen I'm simply not purchasing any tablet
Umyd said:
I absolutely love this device.
Only one condition left before I purchase it:
Will it play videos larger than 4gb?
If I cant make use of its gorgeous 720p screen I'm simply not purchasing any tablet
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Yes, it plays video larger than 4gb. The only natively supported filesystem for the SD card is FAT32 though. Which means you have to put files larger than 4gb on the internal storage, or use something like Drive Mount to get another filesystem working.
Hopefully a firmware update or custom ROM will address this issue in the future.
perfect.
u rock vegaman!

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