So, the SD card gets formatted with FAT32. As most of you know, you can't transfer large files (over 2GB) with FAT32. This is a problem when you want to store a full 720p movie on your phone since they usually run 4-7GB.
Any chance of a different format coming for the Evo? I just don't see 720p and HDMI out being all that useful with a 2GB file limit.
How is everyone else handling this? I suppose I could break up a HD movie into 3 or 4 parts and create a playlist for playback on a HDTV, but this is more work than I want to go through.
And what about the rumored 1080p phones that are coming out? Are they going to compress video even more than our Evo to be able to keep file sizes within reason?
wrxlvr said:
As most of you know, you can't transfer large files (over 2GB) with FAT32
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No...the file size limit with FAT32 is about 4GB.
Minjin said:
No...the file size limit with FAT32 is about 4GB.
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My bad. But that's still not 7GB (or more once we start seeing 1080p phones). I've seen people saying the Evo has issues playing files larger than 2GB, do we know why this is?
i think android supports other linux-compatible file systems but those don't work on windows. and fat32 blows.
I, myself, am pretty frustrated over this issue also but even more so over the "EVO does not play files larger then 2GB" issue.
For now what I do is I convert the movies I want to put on the EVO to a .mp4 file under 2GB with a bitrate around 2Mbps. Looks good on the EVO screen but once you put that on the big 50" screen over HDMI you can see the step down in quality, even though I could still call it "HD"
Hey guys,I'm still waiting for my DHD to come...
Anyways!I just wanted to ask whether there is a size limit for playable videos.I remember that on my Desire,I could throw whatever I wanted to it(up to 720p of course) at any bitrate and it played butter smooth.Unless if talking about a full-length movie.Anything larger than 2 gb couldn't be played.Can anyone check if there is something like that on the DHD?
Thanks!
As I remember from manual,DHD is formatting SD card in FAT32,and the maximum size limit is 2gb.We can only hope that in a future they will make NTFS formatting possible(no size limit)
Yup 2Gb is the file size limit of FAT32.
NTFS does have a limit but if your hitting that then, erm, well its a lot lol.
Well...the question might be: why would I want to have >2gb vids?
I played a xvid of 1.5 GB which had superb quality and it worked fine, but, it was a bit of overkill for the screensize, I probably could have done with 1/4th or less of the size to have almost the same quality...
You're right,I don't need more than 2gb,but I have downloaded some movies and it would save me much time if I didn't have to reencode them to fit the size limit.It's not a quality issue.
And for what's mentioned above,the size limit for fa32 is 4GB,not 2.
Hey guys,
So I recently tried to transfer finding nemo 720p (dont judge me) onto my internally storage of my atrix, however since it is 4.5 gb file, it denies it. I researched a bit and realized its because of the fat32 file system the internal storage has. Is it possible to change it to NTFS. Or do i have to buy a microsd card? if so, which kind do you guys have?
Thanks!
fat32 won`t let you put any files larger than 4gb, and the atrix doens`t recognise ntfs, so even if you get an sdcard and format it, it still won`t work. You could try to get in SD, won`t be the same quality, but I can tell you it works fine
Re-encode the video at a lower bit rate so that it ends up being smaller than 4GB, it'll be lower quality but no worse than taking some SD version instead.
EDIT: The PenTile screen's graininess will add "detail" that gets lost with the lower bit rate anyway.
He could always ext3 format the card and copy thinggs over in linux
Here's wishing android gets XFS support! Lol, but srsly, ext3 works on droid?
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thanks for the reply guys. thats a shame though, but i guess another option would be to have the video split into 2 parts.
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Here's wishing android gets XFS support! Lol, but srsly, ext3 works on droid?
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Well... it'd probably be more believable than NTFS, since the Android OS is based on Linux last time i checked.
I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
You've talked yourself into it and, going from what you've said, I'd agree with you. I'm gonna get the 16GB version cause I can not because I need to
When 8GB prevents you from doing something you really want to do, that $50 won't be as big a deal then. But seriously, I think that the 16GB model will even have better resell when it comes time to upgrade as most people prefer the larger storage as evidenced by this forum. Everybody's needs and wants are different, but as for me, I'm not even hesistating, it's 16GB for me.
Here is my breakdown:
Sygic GPS - 4.5GB storage space (maps stored locally on the device)
Pictures - around 3GB
Nandroid backups - I have usually 1-2 on my phone which usually means 1-2GB
This usually results in about 3-4GB of storage space to play with for me....
See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
The thing you need to keep in mind is that that 8 or 16GB is your total storage for the device. the 8GB Nexus 7 has 5.92GB of free space with no apps installed (except the system ones that come with it, obviously). And, if I remember correctly, the Galaxy S has 1GB of application storage in addition. With the Nexus 4, every application you install, even if it doesn't have to download additional files to the "sdcard", will be eating into that 5.92GB of storage you have.
^This! Will definitely get 16gb!!
Use the cloud and Google music. If your using Tmo get unlimited data and you will be fine streaming on hspa 42
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I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
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Buy 8 GB version
And I was thinking that if I do not get memory sometimes can get a USB OTG and resolve. Rather than give so much money, better give one dollar for such a cable.
And who knows? Usually use the most how much memory you have. Those who will buy the 16 GB version I bet from her to him and USB OTG.
So there's no point to invest so for 8 GB.
Now Nexus 7 16GB is $ 200 .. perfect for everyone!
If you want more put something nice to sit wi-fi, 3G and 32 GB!
This about the real space available being around 5.7GB bugs me really hard now. Thinking that the amazing new phone I'm gonna get has less space than I'm using at this very moment doesn't sound right. Guess I'll go for the 16GB. Better regret something I did than something I didn't do.
I also think I can manage 8gb (not even coming close to using it up on my current phone, thouh lately I havent been using it that much as a smart phone), but I think I will get the 16gb. One of the main reason why is that I plan on having the phone for a while. I think this is a significant point, since while I'd currently be able to manage with the 6gb (don't count on more than 8) my usage might change (ex. I mihgt have some heavy games installed), and I'd probably want to have at least a gb free (so that'd leave 5 gb) for just in case situations, ex for making a nandroid, or shooting a 30-second-turned-15-minute HD video, or to try out a new very big game, or to download a new distro I want to try out and dd it to a usb (via otg,ofc) using my phone because I'm feeling lazy and dont want to get up and the usb and cable were right next to me (I am joking, but I have done this, though, on a tablet but similar situation).
This brings me to something else that might pop up in the future and that could use up space (though, if it does come, it may be possible to put it onto a usb, or they may immediately ship the software in a dock, psst, don't tell canonical, I want to profit of off this idea ); ubuntu for android (or something similar). Seeing as how canonical ported/is porting (native) ubuntu to the nexus 7 I think there is a chance they might port ubuntu for android to the nexus 4, especially if it sells a lot, which we all know it will. Oh, yeah. Don't mix up Ubuntu on the nexus 7 (if you already heard about it, or google it) with ubuntu for android (the former replaces android, the latter supplements it). While I'm not a fan of Ubuntu, and I probably wouldn't use it that much, the geeky coolness of it would definitely overrule the practical usage of space but thats just me, you might find it useful, or not have it at all.
just buy the 8gb version, that 299 price tag looks damn sexy
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Today I did an excercise with my LG G2x to see if 8Gb will be enough:
Here is my current setup:
1) Internal storage: 1.48GB (788 MB used, it has OS and sys apps)
2) Internal SD card: 5.22GB (4GB used)
3) SDCard: 32GB (12GB used)
The goal of this experiment was to see if I can do without 32GB sd card as I will have about the same storage space as 8gb N4.
1.48 + 5.22 = 6.7Gb
And N4 has 7.45GB (Not 8GB, as 8GB is in decimal system which equates to 7.45GB)
8,000,000,000 / (1024 x 1024 x 1024) = 7.45Gb
Anyways, assuming N4 will be left with 5.92GB after OS and System apps (people from N7 8Gb have this much available).
I deleted all possible crap from the Internal SD card (#2) but the "Android" folder was huge, over a gb. Plus there were tons of other folders created by apps equating to 600 mb.
Mind you I dont have much useful stuff in my 32gb sd card. So I moved my camera pictures and music to Internal SD card and moved backups to 32gb SD card.
So now I could barely fit everything in my Internal SDcard: its 5.11GB full. With no crap: Only has Music, camera taken pics and 700mb of videos and ofcourse "data" from android and app data.
So if I add 788MB from the Internal storage (from #1) which has OS I will be at 5.8 GB
That leaves me with 100 mb in my brand new N4 for taking what 50 pics? Maybe? Or 25 Photosphers?
For those interested: I am running clean lean CM7 with 32 apps, 2 of which are games.
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hallucynogenyc said:
See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
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Lucky guy to be in an area that lets you use maps over the air. I could not manage on google alone, and use Sygic.
I want to put bluray movies on my sandisk ultra micro sd 64 gb card to use on my galaxy s5 that i get from a friend. i also wantr to be able to record for as long as I want.What file format will S5 support for this since my s3 couldn't do it. I'm not into rooting so thats not an option.
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Bumo
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The format of the SD card is what matters here I believe, I think its Fat32 that you need, look it up, between ext and fat32 one of them can only store files up to a particular size, 4GB if i remember right, I think its Fat32 you need, but like I said, double check..you also won't need to root either. Hope this helps, FYI watching blue ray on a five inch screen is going to be wasted, a ripped BRay would be alright, usually about 2GB and both file systems can take that size.