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[q] 4g - wireless tether

I am in Boston enjoying 4g service and getting 8mb down on the street (wow). However, I seem to be limited to about 1.4mb down when I run speedtest on my laptop through wireless tether. Does anyone know the limitations of wireless tether? Am I limited on the speed by WT, the phone, or what?
Speedtest app shows 5-8mb consistently, speedtest website on my laptop shows 1.2-1.4 consistently.

I never trust that site. I have a network monitor widget on my desktop and, when in 4G, I utilize it fully. Usually around 7-9 Mbps down. So my suggestion is to use a monitoring solution that looks at the actual in/out of the network interface.

http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=510&start=200
I've had the exact same problem, and the developer has worked on it a bit, but the page has seemed to die out.

Best wi-fi performance

I noticed in the advanced wifi settings the option to tick 'best wi-fi performance' it says this may use more power. Anybody know what it actually does? Also is the DHD wireless n standard without having to do anything?

What rom are you using? I do not see this on leedroid

Just the standard ROM that comes on the phone as i havent rooted.

I have a question on this also

smurcoch said:
What rom are you using? I do not see this on leedroid
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It will be there. You have to press menu on the wifi settings page.

Yep, this definitely uses more battery, this unfortunately is a must for me since I have the phone in a case and I get very poor reception with Wifi otherwise. GPS is also weak takes ages to lock.
It's under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi Settings -> Press menu button -> Advanced and it's there.

ErOR22 said:
Yep, this definitely uses more battery, this unfortunately is a must for me since I have the phone in a case and I get very poor reception with Wifi otherwise. GPS is also weak takes ages to lock.
It's under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi Settings -> Press menu button -> Advanced and it's there.
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So enabling it will help WiFi reception? I though it will only boost speed or something. Going to turn it on for a few days and see!

ErOR22 said:
It's under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi Settings -> Press menu button -> Advanced and it's there.
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Thanks Haha, never really thought of pressing menu in there kinda figured that was all there was
I'm only getting about 600kBps on a 1.5mBps internet line through WiFi. Going to test this over the next few days.
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This will activate the wlan-n mode...
But it uses lots of battery.
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smurcoch said:
Thanks Haha, never really thought of pressing menu in there kinda figured that was all there was
I'm only getting about 600kBps on a 1.5mBps internet line through WiFi. Going to test this over the next few days.
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Remember that the signal is never 100% and there is some loss in speed. I always use best wifi performance as it improves the signal and from my room which isn't too far from the router I can max my 5mbs connection which I find quite impressive. On 1.5mbps connection you should be maxing at around 170kbs.

it need more power than normal using

but, i dont know in leedroid hay rev have it

Speedtest.net with best wifi performance: 3703 kbps down 1244 kbps up
Without best wifi performance: 2909 kbps down 1214 kbps up
Makes a slight very slight difference. This was upstairs away from the router. Downstairs I can get 9-10 Mbps whether it is on or off, whereas on my laptop I can get 12-13 Mbps.

It does not apply the n-setting, because if I turn on the n-setting on my router, my phone disconnects from WiFi.

smurcoch said:
Thanks Haha, never really thought of pressing menu in there kinda figured that was all there was
I'm only getting about 600kBps on a 1.5mBps internet line through WiFi. Going to test this over the next few days.
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I suppose you have a 1.5 megabit connection and a downstream of 600 kilobyte per second? One byte = 8 bit.
Because if it is like that, you should, as ErOR22 mentioned, not be able to get over 187.5 kB/s (if my calculation is accurate ^^).
If you really mean that you have 1.5 megabyte downstream you could try to get closer to the router and/or minimize the number of walls between you and your router. This should boost your speed.

battery drains real bad when you switch best performance to on and it does activite the n setting its one off HTC's power saving tricks. I have dual band router an my DHD connects fine
for signal, covering the battery cover kills wifi as thats were the antenna is.

ErOR22 said:
Remember that the signal is never 100% and there is some loss in speed. I always use best wifi performance as it improves the signal and from my room which isn't too far from the router I can max my 5mbs connection which I find quite impressive. On 1.5mbps connection you should be maxing at around 170kbs.
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My line is 1.5mbytes not bits. I usually hit 1600kbytes a second on my upstairs computer using WiFi g and not n. I should easily be getting 1MB/s at least on my phone
Edit: just did a few speed tests, 1mBps but when doing a lan transfer, it peaks at 900kBps averaging 600kBps. This is my problem. Lan share is useless
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smurcoch said:
My line is 1.5mbytes not bits. I usually hit 1600kbytes a second on my upstairs computer using WiFi g and not n. I should easily be getting 1MB/s at least on my phone
Edit: just did a few speed tests, 1mBps but when doing a lan transfer, it peaks at 900kBps averaging 600kBps. This is my problem. Lan share is useless
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That's interesting, you got your numbers wrong again lol. On 1.5Mbs connection you say you download at 1600kbs which is 1.6Mbs lol. Funny that, on LAN you should be getting a lot more. When testing LAN are you coping from from another computer that's on wireless?
When I turn on Best WiFi Performance I idle at around 70mA and with it turned off it's under 10mA, so a huge difference but I need it unfortunately.

ErOR22 said:
That's interesting, you got your numbers wrong again lol. On 1.5Mbs connection you say you download at 1600kbs which is 1.6Mbs lol. Funny that, on LAN you should be getting a lot more. When testing LAN are you coping from from another computer that's on wireless?
When I turn on Best WiFi Performance I idle at around 70mA and with it turned off it's under 10mA, so a huge difference but I need it unfortunately.
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=/
kb = kilobits
kB = kilobytes
lowercase b is bits
uppercase is bytes
8 bits per byte, 1024 bytes per kilobyte, etc etc
speed varies because because tv runs off the same line. ~15mb/s without any TVs going or shows being recorded and ~10mb/s or so when 2 or more are being used, but I still only get like ~6-7mb/s on the dhd, same with lan shares accessed from the device

You have your units all mixed up.
Edit: beat me to it, and with an actually informative post... hei hei

Tethering testing - CM7 vs PDAnet

I find myself in a decent 4g area, with nothing to do, so I decided to see if there was any reason to run PDA.net (which I paid for a while ago) now that I am on CM7.
My phone was connected to 4G, and the same USB spot on my laptop. I even rested on my table at the exact same spot for each test. I used Speedtest.net to hit the nearest server. I ran 6 tests first wirelessly tethered, then through PDAnet tether, then wired CM7 tether. Then I ran two tests each back through the list, to make sure time was not a factor on the speeds, then one test each again.
Here are my results, tossing out the highest and lowest test for each one. Upload appeared to be capped, as on many tests it would be climbing high and then hover right around 1mbit.
CM7 Wireless: Ping = 95.67; DL = 3.77 mbit; UL = 1.05 mbit
PDAnet: Ping = 98; DL = 4.40 mbit; UL = 1.07 mbit
CM7 Wired: Ping = 96.14; DL = 6.19 mbit; UL = 1.00 mbit
Conclusion: For some reason, wired CM7 crushed the other two on download. Even when going back and forth between tethering methods, CM7 Wired produced better results. In fact, after all the tests, even the lowest outlier for CM7 Wired (5.17mbit) was higher than every other test for the other two methods. Upload as I said appeared to be capped, and have negligible difference. Ping as well seemed to be within error for all three methods, though the lowest I recorded (83) was on CM7 wired.
Thats it, thought I might share, and hope that someone else has done their own experiments. If so, what did you find?

Nice work. Makes me wish even more than I was in a 4g area so I could tether and get rid of Comcast... but then I wouldn't be able to use my phone and computer online separately.

rstuckmaier said:
Nice work. Makes me wish even more than I was in a 4g area so I could tether and get rid of Comcast... but then I wouldn't be able to use my phone and computer online separately.
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You can use both when you tether. It just is using the same stream of bits, so you cant do intensive stuffs on both.

rstuckmaier said:
Nice work. Makes me wish even more than I was in a 4g area so I could tether and get rid of Comcast... but then I wouldn't be able to use my phone and computer online separately.
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I tether 4g for my internet connection. I also share the tether to my 360 so I can play xbox live. I can take a phone call, play words with friends, and load a web page on my pc, all while in a game of halo or CoD.
This phone is just awesome.
-Just warming up!

[Q] Wifi Streaming Lags

Guys
I have not been able to stream 5 secs of the transformer video or any youtube video without significant stutter and lag. I have plenty of speed with my home wifi as far as i know. I have 20+mbs with Comcast and never have issues with my wifi.
what could be wrong...is it my N7 or my router?

I'm so happy someone else has this issue. Well not happy but happy to know I'm not the only one. I have 30+ download on my home WiFi and it lags when I try to watch YouTube also. Its very annoying. It can't be my WiFi because I have tried several other devices and they work great. Hopefully an update will come and fix soon because I'm an avid youtuber. But yeah your not the only one man.
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I was having a issue watching transformers as well, I also rented a movie using my credit and never finished it because of lag.
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try do a speed test see what's the through put you get on your device. Also, in the wifi setting, see at what speed you are connecting to your wifi router.

Speed test is 27mbps and my WiFi settings speed is 54mbps. I don't see a problem?
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feelinfroggy23 said:
Speed test is 27mbps and my WiFi settings speed is 54mbps. I don't see a problem?
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yea, doesn't seem like any problem with your connection. Did you try streaming via other apps such as hulu or only lags in youtube?
Some thing you can try:
1. wipe youtube memory and try it again. You can even try uninstall it and download a fresh copy from the market. If still lags, try #2
2. install the flash apk and try streaming youtube via another browser such as Dolphin HD and see how it works out.

what would you suggest I use for a speed test?

using speed test.net app my speeds are
1659 kbps DL
and
4592 kbps UL
seems like i might have a router problem if that's all i'm getting on the DL
my hardwired LAN gets 24 Mbps

Rugged96 said:
using speed test.net app my speeds are
1659 kbps DL
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4592 kbps UL
seems like i might have a router problem if that's all i'm getting on the DL
my hardwired LAN gets 24 Mbps
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If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.

Last night I was on Netflix watching Weeds and the only time there were any hiccups was at the beginning of the episode when Netflix was adjusting the quality to my internet connection. By the end of the theme song there was no noticeable stutters and I believe it had upgraded to HD 720p. So Netflix seems to not be a problem.
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silvscorp said:
If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.
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oddly enough it says my link speed is 65Mbps....checking my other phones.

Rugged96 said:
oddly enough it says my link speed is 65Mbps....checking my other phones.
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silvscorp said:
If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.
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My Cell phone HTC One S is even worse on wifi....352 kbps DL speeds.
I have a pretty new router. this doesn't make sense to me.

I just noticed the cap-out link speed of 65Mbps too. The manual says that the N7 is 802.11b/g/n capabile, so I figured I should see at least 150Mbps (if not 300Mbps like my laptop).
Anyone else noticing this low cap-out? Is this a software issue of the N7 or a hardware issue that I should have my unit exchanged for?

Rugged96 said:
My Cell phone HTC One S is even worse on wifi....352 kbps DL speeds.
I have a pretty new router. this doesn't make sense to me.
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Something is definitely wrong with your wifi router.
Revelant said:
I just noticed the cap-out link speed of 65Mbps too. The manual says that the N7 is 802.11b/g/n capabile, so I figured I should see at least 150Mbps (if not 300Mbps like my laptop).
Anyone else noticing this low cap-out? Is this a software issue of the N7 or a hardware issue that I should have my unit exchanged for?
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Normal G router will have max of 54mbps so looks like you have a N router since you are connected at 65Mbps. Some wireless N router can only output 150mbps and some will do 300mbps. Most of modern mobile device's wifi N adapter is only rated up to 150mbps however. 65mpbs is really on the low side for N network but still sufficient unless you wish to do a lot streaming withing your own network. Keep in mind that, if you have both G and N wireless device connected to your router at the same time, the link speed will be reduced depend on your router's configuration.

silvscorp said:
Normal G router will have max of 54mbps so looks like you have a N router since you are connected at 65Mbps. Some wireless N router can only output 150mbps and some will do 300mbps. Most of modern mobile device's wifi N adapter is only rated up to 150mbps however. 65mpbs is really on the low side for N network but still sufficient unless you wish to do a lot streaming withing your own network. Keep in mind that, if you have both G and N wireless device connected to your router at the same time, the link speed will be reduced depend on your router's configuration.
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I have verified that I can connect to the router\access points in my place at speeds between 242-300Mbps no problem. I have no G devices connected. It appears that the N7 is capping out a 65Mbps.
My question was whether anyone else (other than Rugged96 and myself) is seeing this in their WiFi connection info?

Revelant said:
I have verified that I can connect to the router\access points in my place at speeds between 242-300Mbps no problem. I have no G devices connected. It appears that the N7 is capping out a 65Mbps.
My question was whether anyone else (other than Rugged96 and myself) is seeing this in their WiFi connection info?
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I guess N7 will have a max of 65mbps just like most of the phones out today mainly due to the single antenna. To get higher N speed you need multiple antennas (MIMO)

I won't be able to deconstruct my router until later tonight. I am working from home and need to stay focused....

silvscorp said:
I guess N7 will have a max of 65mbps just like most of the phones out today mainly due to the single antenna. To get higher N speed you need multiple antennas (MIMO)
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So it is a limitation of the physical hardware...That is good to know. I was worried that something was wrong with my tablet.
Thanks!

Man that is BS!!!! Your telling Me I can't watch an HD movie on YouTube because the tablet went let me??? Why do they even have the option to go HD then? My internet pushes out 35mbps. That should be more then enough to run HD.
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No problems here. Watched transformers Friday night with no problem. Sunday my wife used the timewarner app to watch NASCAR. I have even used the watch ESPN with no problems tethering from HOX. Not saying its not your N7 but it sounds like a problem with your network. Unplug cable modem for a min or do a reset through the GUI. Maybe reset the router while at it.
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WiFi Speed Problem

US996 unlocked using OEM site. Phone is rooted. I am running the stock Oct. 1 2016 US99610d Build number deODEXd firmware. I am using Verizon wireless and Verizon FiOS which I recently upgraded from 75/75 to gigabit. At 75/75 my wifi speeds on my V20 were consistently 85/90 D/U with 9 or 10 ms ping using the OOKLA speed test. With my gigabit FiOS I have seen V20 speeds as high as 435/305 but no more. My FiOS desktop PC speed test using the Verizon gigabit speed test consistently shows 949/934 for router and 924/952 for device (PC). My V20 with the OOKLA test however will usually show something like 5 ms ping and 85/110. If I delete the OOKLA app, go into recovery and wipe Dalvic/ART Cache and Cache, then reboot and download the OOKLA speed test and run it I get the Very high 400/300 speeds UNTIL I get out of the app, then rerun it and get the old 85/110 speeds. The WiFi connection on the phone always shows 866 Mbps link speed. All OOKLA tests are from the same OOKLA site. I can tell if the phone on WiFi is in fast mode or slow mode by download speeds in general. I am frustrated trying to figure out what is preventing consistent high WiFi speed (all quoted speeds are from a distance of about 3 feet from the router. Does anyone know what the problem is? Thanks.