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I just wanted to thank XDA and all the helpful people on here!
I've always had blackberry phones in the past (many including Storm) and was about to get the Torch, but said lets go to another platform.
I'm not a Apple fan so did some research on what the best Android phone currently. I bought myself a locked to Bell Galaxy S Vibrant.
Within 1 hour I had the phone unlocked and working on Rogers and had it rooted.
Have the phone fully customized to the way I like. Recalibrated the G-sensor and applied the lag and gps fix. Phone is hitting 2200 on Quadrant and I couldnt be happier!
I have also mastered the adb shell commands and removed apps I didnt want.
This phone is amazing and the people on here are just amazing.
This phone and this forum is light years ahead of BB and BB forums.
I'm now waiting for Froyo to drop officially.
The only things I dont like about this phone and its firmware:
1. Still have some lag (hope Froyo will fix)
2. No copy and paste feature like the BBs
Thanks again.
rmanaudio said:
2. No copy and paste feature like the BBs
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Really?
Try to long-press the text box and you will have copy/paste options.
Regards.
I have tried that, but it does not work within a email. On the BB you could do copy&paste anywhere. No big deal.
Also here is my take on Blackberry/RIM:
I think they have given up on the consumer market and just focusing on the corperate world.
The 9800 Torch is years behind and RIM doesnt know how to keep up with Apple or Android.
They have very bad screens with low res. and they claim the reason for it is to save power and allow the phone to last longer. They are using old CPU/GPU's and the reason for it is to save power again. The OS and HW is maxed out on each device almost and it is to save power again so that the corp people dont have to pugin the phone during work.
BUT...after haveing a few BBs (curve, bold, storm) and now the Galaxy S, I can say that this phone will run circles around any BB and still give you enough juice to last the day. It might not last as long as a BB, but 90% of a BB and that is good enough. This tells me that RIM just cant keep up or engineer for the future, no wonder RIM stocks are hitting lows of the year.
I agree with manaudio. The galaxy s is the best phone I've ever had. The only slight niggle left is the lack of copy and paste in email. Seems like such a weird oversight is a modern phone. Hopefully samsung will provide a better email client soon.
rmanaudio said:
I have tried that, but it does not work within a email. On the BB you could do copy&paste anywhere. No big deal.
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Use the internet browser, click the menu button > "more" > "select text"
I assume you'll be used to better functionality but it should do the job in a pinch, also the email client in the web is a bit better, though maybe leaving a larger system imprint/3g use. If you are currently using an app you might consider a permanent switch over, especially if it's just the convenience of 1-touch access replace the app with a bookmarked shortcut.
Hope that helps.
You are welcome rmanaudio
another piece of advice, get this kit ...you'll need it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
you'll thank us later again.
from a fellow Ex-BB User
AllGamer said:
You are welcome rmanaudio
another piece of advice, get this kit ...you'll need it
you'll thank us later again.
from a fellow Ex-BB User
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Thank you so much, I just ordered. Amazing!
hey guys,
I have a basically new vibrant (no scratches or scuffs) that is stuck in the phone-!-pc screen after using odin to flash a new firmware. I'm kinda new at this and am tired of trying to figure out how to get it working.
I'm willing to sell it for low price.. if there's anyone interested hit me up at [email protected]
Thanks
Ryan
EDIT: Sold. mods you can delete this thread
ryanolson7 said:
hey guys,
I have a basically new vibrant (no scratches or scuffs) that is stuck in the phone-!-pc screen after using odin to flash a new firmware. I'm kinda new at this and am tired of trying to figure out how to get it working.
I'm willing to sell it for low price.. if there's anyone interested hit me up at [email protected]
Thanks
Ryan
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Pull out the battery.
Wait 30 seconds.
Put USB cable in.
Hold both volume buttons.
Put battery in while holding both volume buttons.
Your in download mode.
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you can also pull battery, put battery back in. hold vol+/vol- while plugging in USB, that might work too.
I'll take it off your hands for $100
i dont blame you, but remember the vibrant is almost unbrickable. if you cann see pc screen or charging status icon your good. keep trying then sell it for max profit
Ill send you 110.
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Sell it full price dude people r gonna try to scam u but u can fix this in 5 minutes.
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well you dont need to pull a battery either... you just hold the up down volume toggle along with the power but and when the screen goes black immediately remove your finger from the power button while still holding up down volume toggle. this will place u back into download mode. don't sell your phone because of frustration. you cant brick this phone.
120 right now. Me me me!
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And how is that a scam? Person offers deal, person accepts deal. Sounds more like capitalism to me....
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$121.00 . We're going by Price is Right rules, right?
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$121.00 . We're going by Price is Right rules, right?
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**suspense**
**can't take it anymore**
$150!!!!! And that's my final offer!
sent my payment
Hey Ryan - thanks for selling the phone to me for $130.
You received my PayPal payment and I am still waiting to receive tracking information.
Under normal circumstances, a message like this would be more appropriate to send through private channels, but I have tried emailing you for three days and calling you back at your google voice number without success. You were very easy to get a hold of before I paid, but seem to have vanished the moment I requested tracking information.
I hope you are not up to something sneaky. I assume with your online presence on twitter, in your blog, and elsewhere, that you're not trying to deceive me, and that you've simply decided to take a break from the internet and from your phone for a few days.
Hmm, except your twitter account was updated just hours ago?
Further googling shows you're actually an Android Developer. Therefore, you probably pretty much know this phone is permanently bricked, but when we talked you came across as though you weren't familiar with procedures for recovering from a soft brick. I find that difficult to believe given your Android experience.
Send me my brick, or send me a refund.
I bought a bricked phone, yes, but right now I feel like my brain is bricked for buying it.
Due diligence folks, due diligence.
I'm on my third one. Just call tmobile tell them your not sure what happened. It's a known issue and if it's in good physical condition they will send you a new one.
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Pancake345 said:
I'm on my third one. Just call tmobile tell them your not sure what happened. It's a known issue and if it's in good physical condition they will send you a new one.
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You missed something here man the OP sold the phone to the person above you and is acting like he's going burn him by not giving him the phone he promised to sell. Sad hope OP does what's right.
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Pancake345 said:
I'm on my third one. Just call tmobile tell them your not sure what happened. It's a known issue and if it's in good physical condition they will send you a new one.
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Do you have to buy it from tmobile to get this privilege?
tonie972 said:
Do you have to buy it from tmobile to get this privilege?
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Don't mention that you didn't but from tmo. As long as it show you are using a vibrant on there system they will give the replacement.
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Don't give up cuz I was in the same position. Plus the best way to learned is from your mistakes. YouTube & Google good tools to learn. YouTube give you visualization & Google the reading understanding part. I believe you can fix your phone no need to sale it. One thing you need to be patient if not you are not going to learn. Without being patient is important in doing all this learning about Android OS. Modifying, rooting & flash customs roms.
Me... sometimes I want to take my hair off cuz it gets to be but I remember to be patient.
Lucky you that he sold the phone to you.
falafelfro said:
Hey Ryan - thanks for selling the phone to me for $130.
You received my PayPal payment and I am still waiting to receive tracking information.
Under normal circumstances, a message like this would be more appropriate to send through private channels, but I have tried emailing you for three days and calling you back at your google voice number without success. You were very easy to get a hold of before I paid, but seem to have vanished the moment I requested tracking information.
I hope you are not up to something sneaky. I assume with your online presence on twitter, in your blog, and elsewhere, that you're not trying to deceive me, and that you've simply decided to take a break from the internet and from your phone for a few days.
Hmm, except your twitter account was updated just hours ago?
Further googling shows you're actually an Android Developer. Therefore, you probably pretty much know this phone is permanently bricked, but when we talked you came across as though you weren't familiar with procedures for recovering from a soft brick. I find that difficult to believe given your Android experience.
Send me my brick, or send me a refund.
I bought a bricked phone, yes, but right now I feel like my brain is bricked for buying it.
Due diligence folks, due diligence.
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That's what you get for trying to rip him the **** off.
What are you guys' thoughts on the new 15 minute window for returning an app in the market?
Lets debate... good or bad? (and why...)
http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...rket-featues-refund-window-shrinks-15-minutes
Here's what I said on Twitter...
"I think the new 15 minute window in the Android Market is just going to lead to more piracy. 15 minutes is not enough time!"
Agreed. 15 minutes is a joke.
And schizo, just because you are a Dev, doesn't mean all your posts go in Development. ;-)
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Agreed. 15 minutes is a joke.
And schizo, just because you are a Dev, doesn't mean all your posts go in Development. ;-)
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I meant to post this in General, hah. Someone can move this. I know it goes in general I just wasnt looking. My bad.
Not happy about it. It was always one of those things I used to tell smug iPhone owners that they could never have a good retort for. 15 minutes is not enough time for me to decide if I like an application or not most of the time.
In fact, today I purchased an application and it got stuck at the "Authorizing Purchase" screen for a couple hours, even through a few reboots of the phone. By the time it finally decided to install, it wouldn't allow me a refund. That pissed me off.
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Good for devs bad for users... 15 minutes isnt really enough time to decide if I like an app or even see if its buggy
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I agree, it's a shame that we'll have to pirate the app to test it... I'd say an hour is fair, 24 hours does infact hurt devs that make small games or something you would only really need to use once for an hour. Though with the current guidelines since you can't get a refund on the same app twice, buy, adb pull, refund, adb push. If you're satisfied with your purchase, go buy it again. Otherwise uninstall it
I honestly think Google should make it up to the dev to choose the refund period. Give the dev a drop down menu of time increments...
15 minutes
30 minutes
1 hour
2 hours
24 hours
Something like that.
I personally think the changes overall are good, I thought the 24-hour was kind of long to be honest the first time I heard of it, I personally don't try before I buy, but the only thing I would do is if that I accidentally purchased an app, 15 minutes is plenty enough time to get a refund.
I think they are trying to gear the refund more-so towards accidental purchases and also a quick way to gauge if the application is something you want, I think you should always put thought into something you are going to purchase and not just act on impulse, I think they are trying to work away from some of that mentality as well as make the Market more professional overall.
Just my $0.02
You do raise a few good points, though I'm thinking to the times I've purchased apps in the past, You have to hit at least 2 buttons, if not 3. Perhaps if one were not paying attention to the icons or titles names. I've always enjoyed the return period as I saw it of more of a pc game-esk approach, I always looked at this as a "demo" window. 15 minutes would not be enough time for me to test any system apps, ie: battery to see how effective they are.
Bad!!!!
24 hours gets rid of buyers remorse! Less refund arguements!
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I posted this early in the updated market app thread.
would be more effective to debate here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13116
than on a forum.
/Thread Closed. <- jk
The potential problem I can see is that app developers may be less likely to provide ad-supported and demo versions, as they may consider the 15 minutes as a good enough trial period as a previous poster pointed out... But it would be their loss as far as my business is concerned, as I'm already more likely to go with the ad-supported version simply because I haven't come across an app yet that I need so badly that I would actually pay for it - if I feel it is warranted, I'll donate to the dev. But if they're asking for money up front, I'll just say no thanks and move on
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boktai1000 said:
I personally think the changes overall are good, I thought the 24-hour was kind of long to be honest the first time I heard of it, I personally don't try before I buy, but the only thing I would do is if that I accidentally purchased an app, 15 minutes is plenty enough time to get a refund.
Just my $0.02
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Sounds like you've never downloaded a GPS app or system tools such as Tasker. You expect me to fully evaluate these types of apps in 15 minutes? You definitely need 24 hours for the GPS app simply because first you have to download the maps to your phone which can easily be over 1GB (1.5GB for Navigon) before you can even take the app out for a test drive.
Expect piracy and credit card chargebacks to rise.
I rarely return an app unless it really doesn't work. But due dilligence is getting easier on the market, and hopefully everyone checks the comments before making a purchase, or even updating. So, I'm fine with it. though, i wonder if this decision stems from the current android fragmentation, and incompatibilities resulting... And lots of ppl not reading the instructions. ..like every time u read a 1 star comment for a widget that says, "doesn't open!"
Sent from the future.
It would be nice if the window for returns was a scaling window. As in, the more expensive the app and/or bigger the download the more time the purchaser has to get a refund. Letting the developers chose would produce a system with 99% of apps with no (or at least the smallest allowable) return window. I wish they would allow paypal transactions before changing the return window.
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15 mins is not enough time at all, should be an hour i think.
Could it possibly be done to implement a timer along with the refund time like you said shiz. Once the timer is complete then you could remove the files from the device
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schizopunk said:
I honestly think Google should make it up to the dev to choose the refund period. Give the dev a drop down menu of time increments...
15 minutes
30 minutes
1 hour
2 hours
24 hours
Something like that.
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Totally agree with this. Some programs require a lot more time to test than others. A good example being Navigation. Leave it to the devs.
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Sounds like you've never downloaded a GPS app or system tools such as Tasker. You expect me to fully evaluate these types of apps in 15 minutes? You definitely need 24 hours for the GPS app simply because first you have to download the maps to your phone which can easily be over 1GB (1.5GB for Navigon) before you can even take the app out for a test drive.
Expect piracy and credit card chargebacks to rise.
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I haven't, nor have I personally seen for them (yet), but I think you can evaluate any well known application via other means. Just as with any other software, using the Internet as your resource, I'm sure you can come to a conclusion without even using the Application if it's something you'd be interested in.
Maybe it comes from the fact that I used to own an iPod Touch, where the App Store market is pretty much as soon as you buy it that's it, it's yours for good. I'm sure they'd make exceptions in some cases, as I'm sure would be the case in this situation, and I think we almost have it too good, yet people are still complaining. I'm not saying they don't have a right to complain, I just think it is being blown way out of proportion.
I know you can't entirely compare it to this, but I think of it this way. If you went to an electronics store, let's say Best Buy, and purchased a game (or any software for that matter) and tried it for 15 minutes then decided you didn't like it, you would get no refund for it at all. In fact the only thing you could do, is get it exchanged if the product itself was defective. That's not the point here though, I think of it as we are purchasing software, and we are lucky enough that we even have a refund option like this available, especially with how simple and easy it to quickly to backup the application and pirate software, yet people still seem to have issues with it.
You do make a very good point with your example though, and I in no way think you are wrong by it, I think for the majority of the Market as a whole, this shouldn't make too much of a difference. I know that there are always special cases to be made, but I don't think Google can cater to every single audience, instead try to cater to the majority and provide cool things for everything. I don't think they always make the right decision on some things, but in this case I simply see little to nothing wrong with it and welcome the changes with open arms.
Again this is just my opinion though, and I would just like to provide my $0.02 on the "issue" in question, since this is a debate thread after all. I am open to agreeing that it isn't a good idea, but so far I haven't seen anyone press a convincing enough case that it might become an issue enough to actually do more bad than good.
tl;dr Still think they made a good decision.
Thanks all.
Edit: Sorry for the wall of text, didn't realize how much I had typed until I posted. Didn't mean to get carried away or ramble on with some issues.
So, for the longest time...my mom has been claiming that she cannot answer phone calls on her DX.
The general custom would be to call her, let it ring a couple times, hang up, and wait for her to call back.
I mean this has been going on since she first got the phone.
A year ago.
Turns out...I was showing her a feature of gingerbread (text reply after ignored call) and I'm sitting next to her...and I call her.
She taps the red tab.
"No mom, ignore the call."
She taps it again.
"Mom...are you serious?"
(getting frustrated with my condescending remark) "OK! WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!?"
She didn't realize those were sliders...all this time...holy ****.
Lmfaooo that is great! That would totally be my mom if she ever even got an Android phone lol...
I was raving about the X a few months before it came out...
And she ordered one and got it on the release date, same as me.
She has a total of about 10 non-stock applications...
One of them being launcher pro that I FINALLY convinced her to use.
I'm curious what the appeal is if she literally only uses it as a phone.
No browser use...never checks for application updates...
Silly woman. Love 'er to death, but man...
Made my day. lmao
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A freind of mine for the Samsung Fascinate and i had to explain the same thing to her... The look on her face was priceless... Haha!
This just made my day!
Parents
Shame on you not tutoring your parent earlier how to use Android to its max potential
My grandmother just got a ally (had she consulted me first I would not have let her get it), she is so lost its not even funny. She waits for me to make my annual trip to Florida to program the time on her VCR. Gotta love old people.
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firefly2004 said:
Shame on you not tutoring your parent earlier how to use Android to its max potential
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Hey now...I've shown her countless roms and such.
She still insists it's "illegal" and will break her phone.
So I seen the article about Siri being cracked and possibly being able to be ran on any device at: http://www.todaysiphone.com/2011/11/siri-cracked-to-work-on-any-device/
Does anyone know how to get it on Android because Iris really sucks lol?
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It requires an id from an actual 4S. Without it the servers would ignore the requests from your device. So no. There will probably be a few devs that do it for their own devices, but i don't see how it could be for anyone who wants it. Read the article
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Siri is retarded. I've tried her already. She doesn't know jack ****. All her answers where, "sorry, I don't know the answer to your question" or "you might want to ask kcjbvjjcxg he might know the answer. Tweet at @kcjbvjjcxg"
By the way, im not making this up. I'm serious. All her answers where basically I don't know answers.
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So Siri is just a bunch of iPhone freak hype...figures....:S
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Siri is retarded. I've tried her already. She doesn't know jack ****. All her answers where, "sorry, I don't know the answer to your question" or "you might want to ask kcjbvjjcxg he might know the answer. Tweet at @kcjbvjjcxg"
By the way, im not making this up. I'm serious. All her answers where basically I don't know answers.
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Siri has worked incredibly well in my experience. I consider it a damn fine piece of software. Mind you I'm no fan of the iPhone. Not because I think its crap. I don't. It's perfect for the majority of people because its idiot proof. I just need more than that.
coupetastic-droid said:
Siri is retarded. I've tried her already. She doesn't know jack ****. All her answers where, "sorry, I don't know the answer to your question" or "you might want to ask kcjbvjjcxg he might know the answer. Tweet at @kcjbvjjcxg"
By the way, im not making this up. I'm serious. All her answers where basically I don't know answers.
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This was my experience as well when I fiddled with it. In the commercial they have people having regular conversations with the thing like it's the Enterprise computer from Star Trek.
I asked it a bunch of the exact same questions from the commercial and all I go was errors or wrong answers.
Then I handed it back to my friend who paid $400 for the phone just to get the Siri feature and laughed at him hysterically.
If you want to talk to your phone like it's a person, then get another person. I've never understood the appeal of trying to speaking in sentences to voice-activated software, because all you end up doing is wasting your breath. People already subconsciously make the effort to speak slower and enunciate better to voice-activated software. Why speak more words than necessary and spend more time essentially issuing a command?
"View/open weather" -Fewer words, low probability of parsing errors
"Is it going to snow today?" -More words, higher probability of parsing errors
I'm not saying that Siri is useless, especially considering I have Vlingo and I would even be content with Genius if it didn't freeze my phone with massive CPU/memory usage when connected to Bluetooth. However, Siri's natural language parsing as advertised is nothing but plain overhead to me.
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If you want to talk to your phone like it's a person, then get another person. I've never understood the appeal of trying to speaking in sentences to voice-activated software, because all you end up doing is wasting your breath. People already subconsciously make the effort to speak slower and enunciate better to voice-activated software. Why speak more words than necessary and spend more time essentially issuing a command?
"View/open weather" -Fewer words, low probability of parsing errors
"Is it going to snow today?" -More words, higher probability of parsing errors
I'm not saying that Siri is useless, especially considering I have Vlingo and I would even be content with Genius if it didn't freeze my phone with massive CPU/memory usage when connected to Bluetooth. However, Siri's natural language parsing as advertised is nothing but plain overhead to me.
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THIS!!!!
I like buttons. I can look up today's weather on my weather widget 100 times faster than I can ask about it verbally, and that's IF the parsing errors are kept to a minimum!
If I want to know my schedule today? There's the Jorte icon right on my screen. One tap...BOOM! There's my schedule. If I want to call my wife, tap the shortcut I put on the screen to her and BOOM, the phone starts ringing.
None of this "Do you want to call Worf?" business. (Though in all fairness if a Klingon picked up the phone I probably wouldn't mind that it didn't call 'Wife'.) But until Siri makes better use of subspace communications, I'll stick with buttons.
My XBox wants me to talk to it too with the Kinect. Well I don't want to tell it to "Play movie". I want to hit the "Play button" and enjoy being quiet.
Voice commands for me really only come in handy when i'm driving.
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The Siri TV commercial that I always see has some of the worst use cases of voice-activated command. You're sitting in your kitchen eating cereal or looking out the patio door and asking a silly question, then waiting for the parser to figure out what you're saying, then listening to a long-winded answer? I don't want the software to tell me if it looks like it will snow, because what I really wanted to see all along was the weather app. I have all kinds of problems with someone who has to ask a phone what her day looks like. Reading the text message while jogging was the only example that made sense.
This is an illustration of people doing things just because they can, or how doing things the lazy way actually ends up being more inefficient than the established method of input. You're not speaking to IBM's Watson and getting obscure Jeopardy Q&A knowledge here. If the commercial simply depicted in-car use or even dialing someone who is buried in your contacts, perhaps the whole concept would seem less absurd to me.
Or maybe it's all just a humanist critique of how we've collectively become so socially inept that our most interesting daily vocal interactions are with a printed circuit board.
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Or maybe it's all just a humanist critique of how we've collectively become so socially inept that our most interesting daily vocal interactions are with a printed circuit board.
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Agreed.
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yo guys, check out this video about siri LOL
http://www.geohot.ca/2011/11/what-happens-when-siri-gets-stuck-in.html
WARNING: EXPLICIT LANGUAGE, I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS!
agreed
You want something awesome? jeannie from the market works, just download it, hold down the search button, always use, and thats it.
What i use it for, well, i say HOW ARE YOU DOING and she tells me. I am pleased with that. Its funny. I can schedule an alarm WAY faster by simply holding search button, then going SCHEDULE PICK UP THE MONEY AT 8 O CLOCK. Granted it does go YOU WANT TO PICK UP SONNY AT 8? but if you train it and speak often it will learn your voice. Thats why when you hand it to your friend it doesnt understand a thing. But anyway, this is all fun stuff if used for the correct things.
You want weather info? just use the google news and weather widget. Or another widget, its so simple. But if you want a fast way to check the battery, navigate, schedule things, and just something to have fun with, try it out.
JEANNIE and EDWIN, two great voice activated apps that have "the server" to connex to.