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Just wondering

Hello all. As a prospective HD2 owner I just wanted to pose a question or two in regards to the changes that have occurred to the phone now that you're all happily running the latest and greatest custom versions of 2.2. I have an X10 and sadly for me, i'm still running 1.6 Needless to say the idea of being able to dual boot Win Mobile and Android is pretty cool. And from what i'm reading, you'll all be flashing android directly in the not to distant future.
Anyway, my question is in regards to hardware and apps. The first is the camera. In initial reviews of the HD2 the camera had some issues with funny "hue's" showing up in the photo. Some would look pinkish. And the other question is in regards to video recording. Again, initial reviews state that switching from camera to video was laggy and jumpy and that the video quality itself was choppy, and well, sucked. Has any of this improved with the jump to Android? Will it be possible to record at 720p like so many other phones are doing now?
As far as apps are concerned have there been any issues with media apps like MixZing, or Meridian? Any here using Vignette for the camera? How do games play on the phone now? There are a multitude of multitouch games out there that are currently beyond my reach with the X10 (lets not get started on the multitouch debate). If you hadn't guessed i'm looking to use this phone primarily for multimedia purposes. Just don't want to waste my time with another device that leaves me wanting just a bit more. That being said I can get my hands on one for very little so recouping my $$ via resale shouldn't really be an issue.
Thanks for taking the time to read this novel and any help / suggestions are appreciated.

I can only answer your question about recording in 720p. AFAIK, 720p recording is not yet supported in any kernel tree. I also don't know if hardware-wise it is possible to record in HD. I don't really use my HD2 for multimedia purposes so I really can't tell more at this point.

Someone should Pull the NI ADAM video player/Codecs

Ive been seeing a lot of people disappointed with the XOOM playback capabilities.
Im not a hacker, and I dont own the xoom (yet) but someone should take a look at the NI adam because it can play all the 720p and most 1080p files perfectly.
I dont know if its a codec things, a player thing, or an OS thing,
but the two tablets (OTHER THAN SCREEN RESOLUTION) have IDENTICAL specs.
(unless the motorola xoom is handling ram differently because most people claim that it is only reporting around 500 mb free (doesnt detect the rest - possible because os is using it>))
someone who knows how should head to notioninkhacks.com and grab the roms and see if you can extract the player and associated codecs and see if this fixes the problem
Just a suggestion..
If one can play it and the other cant.. with virtually identical specs - it must be software related.

I always hear about how the Notion Ink Adam can play these files, but I don't think it does:
http://www.notionaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php/1737-Adam-h264-avc-mpeg4
That is from like 3 weeks ago. I have zero first hand experience with the Adam, so IDK really, but I can't find a single forum post or article saying otherwise.

muyoso said:
I always hear about how the Notion Ink Adam can play these files, but I don't think it does:
http://www.notionaddicts.com/forums/showthread.php/1737-Adam-h264-avc-mpeg4
That is from like 3 weeks ago. I have zero first hand experience with the Adam, so IDK really, but I can't find a single forum post or article saying otherwise.
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There was an update on the 14th from notion ink that fixed the stuttering issues. That post is pre update

+1, I was just about to start a thread on this myself. Hopefully the dev community can pull the NI Adam codecs/player/frameworks/whatever and offer us a port. I am really on edge to return this because it can't do any better than my Snapdragon phone re: video. To hear that iPad and samsung phones do 720p high profile but this can't is just sad

i think we can do 720p high profile just fine but not 1080p high

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Oh cool. Hope you guys can get it crankin.

TF101 has serious video playback problems

Good Day
I have had the stock 101 from day one, installed all updates and find it to be a fairly good unit for a number of things except video playback. Not sure where the problem originates but this tab is useless for video playback. I am astounded on bad this tab operates. I consider it useless in its current state. I purchased the unit to read books surf and play videos nothing else. It can do the first two fairly well. I have tried just about everything that previous posts have recommended to no avail. Creating directories on the external SD card that disappear. It sometimes plays the video other times it will not. I have owned a few tabs and I consider this one to be the poorest one yet. I would not recommend the 101 to anyone that wants to watch videos without having to piss around to make the 101 operate as it should. This unit should be able to play most video types without having to resort to apps that trick it to work. I will now shut this thing down and not use it anymore. For me it is truly not worth the money I paid for it. This should never have been released to the public
I will fire up my Archos 101 and watch all of the same videos until I cannot stand it anymore. The 101 has no real video playback issues other than it does not support flash he last time I checked. It has its own flaws but it video playback is not one of them.
I really like the TF101 but I cannot overlook its clearly unstable, amazingly childish and poorly thought out video playback section. It is stock and I have not messed with it. I am not interested in spending countless hours conducting surgery on it to make it work. This tab should be able to play most videos out of the box.
My dislike for apple is slowly but surely being eroded with products such as the TF101.
ASUS or Android, you have a problem with your product. Fix it!

Not really a problem, and deffo not a "serious" one at that...
I have been playing flash videos on my TF101.
For the majority of other formats i use MX Video Player
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
Once installed it will prompt for a codec and direct you back to the market place to download it.
Good app, streams all my movies across my network when used with a cifs manager.

Funny, lots of us don't have any issues on ours.
If your rant is legit, go buy an iPad. If it isn't, go soak your head troll.

Which types of videos ?
Divx : try mx video player it's a good player and it's free
Mkv : diceplayer, paid app.
Btw : do you think you can play divx videos on the ipad out of the box ? The answer is no, so it's not better than the transformer for that purpose. And it doesn't have flash player.
Edit : the transformer can play wmv hd out of the box with honeycomb 3.2. What do you think about that ?

No troll here! Lighten up yank. Crawl back under your bankrupt rock. I enjoy my technology when it works. Just want it to work
Why do I read countless threads about such problems. They would not be there if they did not exist. I just want my unit to play stand alone on board videos without messing about. I down loaded the eight seasons of Red Dwarf. I would really like to watch on public transport.

Is that hard for you to just install an application ? If so it's also hard to transfer your videos on the tf. Then you shouldn't watch them.

Well, I hope you got that rant out of your system, because it wasn't really helpful to anyone but you. You could've summed it all up in one sentence: "Personally, I don't recommend the TF for playing videos."
I have an Archos 101 as well, and it does play video very well, because Archos is a media player company. They always have been. They paid extra for all those codecs, and skimped out on everything else. Asus made a tablet, Archos made a media player. Don't compare them.
And for the record, Diceplayer has played every file I've thrown at it. The AC3 codec pack for the Archos was $15, and it only enabled 2 or 3 new codecs. Diceplayer is $6 and it plays almost all codecs.
P.S. I still don't see how this relates to apple. Apple only supports MP4 and MOV. And if you use MOV, you probably still have an AOL account.
P.P.S. Also, what do you mean by "serious video problems"? It says in the specs what codecs it supports, and it plays them perfectly. I think you got spoiled by Archos, and thought every Android device had infinite codec support.

swampdonkey101 said:
No troll here! Lighten up yank. Crawl back under your bankrupt rock. I enjoy my technology when it works. Just want it to work
Why do I read countless threads about such problems. They would not be there if they did not exist. I just want my unit to play stand alone on board videos without messing about. I down loaded the eight seasons of Red Dwarf. I would really like to watch on public transport.
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Then can i refer you to my previous post, which happens to be the 1st reply to yours.
CaNsA said:
For the majority of other formats I use MX Video Player
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
Once installed it will prompt for a codec and direct you back to the market place to download it.
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It obvious you have just come on, ranted and because you haven't heard what you wanted/expected you have refused to listen to any advice.

Thanks!
I was not knowingly ranting. I just lay it out on the line. I failed at diplomacy 101. Tell it like it is. But I do expect value for money. Can't say I got that with the TF101 for what I want it to do. I have 4 pc's at home. Just want to surf and watch video on a small form factor. I think many people buy a tab for just what I am doing otherwise just use your PC. I guess I really do not understand what a tab is used for.
I am aware the differences the between the two brands. I am not sure if skimped out is the right term. The Archos is 100 less. I a not expecting it to perform like the TF101. But for that 100 I should get a fully functional video player. For 400 it should work out of the box. Remember the price of a PC's is comparable. Maybe I should not expect much for 400.
I am not concerned how much a add on costs as long as it works. Convert and and it
will work.
Just trying to make a point. Apple makes a good product right out of the box. I just do not want to live in a prison cell. Ipad is still way down the list. Steve and I are not currently talking to each other.
I have tried, AVS4you, DVD fab, Handbrake. All converted as recommended. Also loaded Daroon, Mobo, Rockplayer, Rockplayer lite. I wonder how may I have to try before I get the right one. I have spent two days reading through posts and trying everyone's recommendations as stated in my post. lots of hard work. Thanks to everyone for for the countless help threads. Been there done that. Something is not right.
I stand corrected. Very serious problems was the wrong term to use. Maybe something like " 400 spent and it cannot play the most common video formats, go figure".
I still think it is a firmware problem that should never have been. Not sure if it is a hardware problem, too many inconsistencies with on again off again performance. There are too many posts out there regarding this problem for it to be a non issue or operator error.
Your right, I did get spoiled by a somewhat inferior product. It is not very often less gets more. They are meant to do the same thing, with different quality of bits.
Thanks to everyone for you help threads. I have tried about everything that is recommended. Maybe it is time to RMA it. Do not think that will fix it. I am looking for a good media player similar to the TF101 but plays common video formats. Hardware based of course. I already have a few PC's do not need another one. Any recommendations?

anyone know why I can't play .MP4 videos anymore they are from my helmet cam
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Ellingsoc said:
anyone know why I can't play .MP4 videos anymore they are from my helmet cam
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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What player are you using?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

I think one big problem is a lot of the players are not using hardware decoding including the stock video player. Why?
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Someone obviously didnt watch the video before registering on XDA

I Can't find any that work so give me a few to try the mobo mx don't work too well if at all these are like 720p videos too
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Dice player works well because it uses hardware decoding.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

I will try it thanks for the help
I get a message that says video can not be played any idea on what would cause that. Note this video works on my laptop just fine
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swampdonkey101 said:
No troll here! Lighten up yank. Crawl back under your bankrupt rock. I enjoy my technology when it works. Just want it to work
Why do I read countless threads about such problems. They would not be there if they did not exist. I just want my unit to play stand alone on board videos without messing about. I down loaded the eight seasons of Red Dwarf. I would really like to watch on public transport.
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You ***** and moan about having to use a program to watch video on your TF, but any of your "4" pc's are going to be the same. I find this highly entertaining. Also, you waste all this time trying things, and writing your snooty thread, that you could have spent doing a basic search to see which formats and programs work best.
Get your useless ass outta these forums, you obviously didn't watch the video or pay attention to the rules.
And instead of biting on your political jab, I'll just remind you, that without us, you'd not exist.

i have issues with mkv files in hardware decoding, it plays plays great but sound goes out after a min of playback on all players. But software decode they play fine. Give it time this tab is still a baby. It will keep growing, or so i hope

swampdonkey101 said:
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I am not concerned how much a add on costs as long as it works. Convert and and it
will work.
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I have tried, AVS4you, DVD fab, Handbrake. All converted as recommended. Also loaded Daroon, Mobo, Rockplayer, Rockplayer lite. I wonder how may I have to try before I get the right one. I have spent two days reading through posts and trying everyone's recommendations as stated in my post. lots of hard work. Thanks to everyone for for the countless help threads. Been there done that. Something is not right.
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Thanks to everyone for you help threads. I have tried about everything that is recommended. Maybe it is time to RMA it. Do not think that will fix it. I am looking for a good media player similar to the TF101 but plays common video formats. Hardware based of course. I already have a few PC's do not need another one. Any recommendations?
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No need to convert your downloaded videos, if you REALLY have problem, then you are the only one. Like everybody said : mxplayer or the player you mention (except daroon because it doesn't use third party codecs I think) should just do fine for divx. Sure the transformer have flaws but playing divx is not one of them.
Like you said you should RMA it if you're not satisfied. I don't know why you bought a transformer if the only thing you want is a media player, you should have kept the archos. But of course you won't have the nice screen of the asus.
@Ellingsoc : do you have a sample ? I'll try it.
Sorry for my bad english.

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They must not have google up there in the land of pancakes and hockey because I googled "video codecs for android" and it answered your question. It's even in french.
Please... Just box it up and return it, take the blue pill, and get an ipad before you hurt yourself.

My thoughts on the 10.1

RI've had my tab for a few weeks now and am generally happy with it.
The things I'm pleased with:
Battery life - can't fault it so far
Build quality
App compatability - generally no issues
Web browsing and music are good
Screen is fantastic
Things I'm unhappy with:
The omission of an actual sd card slot is an annoyance
Stock u.i laggy (using adw now)
Mac compatablity is lacking.Kies is ok for it but by no means fantastic
My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts

Did you get the large update to touchwiz recently? I actually started using the stock video player now, as I don't have any problems with the playback. Unless you are enconding in some off the wall format, I would think you wouldn't have any problems.

No on the touchwiz update as yet. I have limited net access in that some things are blocked. Glorious Afghanistan I'm checking every now and then as I can bypass somethings but it's not showing any updates.
In regards to video encoding I've used settings recommended in these forums and also trialled the pavtube program as well as numerous others including handbrake. Pulling my hair out over it!

i agree with you with the Video Support, coming from the Galaxy s phone the Tab almost doesn't play anything without converting and stuff on my phone it just play everything without a need for any video player other than stock

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RMy biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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I had the same issue as you - pretty much everything I tried to play on the GT would break up or have other issues. I was about to return the tablet when I tried transferring a video over WiFi rather than Kies for the Mac. To my surprised it played flawlessly.
So, I rather suspect that your problem is Kies performing some sort of erroneous conversion on the video as it is transferring the video across to the tablet.
I don't use Kies for the Mac anymore, and always transfer files via WiFi, and seldom have any playback issues now.
Regards,
Dave

If you transfer photos/movies from a MAC via the current version of kies then these get corrupted...

I'll try the wifi tip cheers. Although a friend has a 5 year old laptop that I tried the converted videos on and the same breakup occured through vlc. No probs with any of the encoded videos through vlc on my mac pro though.

Tried the wifi tip and works Shame it's a little on the slow side but it'll do till there's a better way
Kies is definately broken for the mac, it hasn't corrupted every video I transferred but enough to really annoy!
Cheers for the tip

The touchwiz update is almost perfect IMHO, I had lags with vanilla ui but since twz update, I enjoy my tab except for one thing:
My fingers literally hurt from overuse of gab10.1!
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The Tegra 2 is not capable to decoding most HD video. The video accelerator (seperate from the GPU) is simply too slow and can not decode most h.264 profiles other than profiles which are obsolete (baseline for example)
Sorry folks, its not a problem with the actual software, its the Tegra 2 which is simply too slow to decode much of todays HD video.

Agreed. As an owner of both a Captivate and Tab 10.1 I am less than impressed with the video performance of this Tab. My Cappy blows it away.
Now the only thing the Tab has over the Cappy is support for legacy DIVX codecs. With the latest update all of my DIVX movies work. But the Cappy still runs laps over the Tab. A shame really. One step forward, two steps back.

You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.

gazwkd said:
My biggest disappointment has been video compatability or lack of it. A lot of my videos are now digitally encoded, some are ok on the tab, others have horrendous breakup. I've done as much research as possible into re-encoding these to suitable format but no matter what program and settings I use I can't get them to run properly. I'm getting to the stage of moving down the Ipad route. I'd post screenshots but apparentlly can't for another 8 posts
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Use Dice player, and u will see how all videos will played nice!

5thElement said:
You have to understand that Tegra 2 is a very old chip despite tablets just being released due to honeycomb delays.
All future tablet chipsets like the Tegra 3 and others will be able to decode any HD content without performance issues.
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I won't count on that. The chipset used in Captivate is even older than Tegra 2. It's all about the drivers and matuality of the OS. HoneyComb just don't have much video codec support to be hornest. Tegra 1 chip in my Zune player plays 720p video better than Tegra 2 in my Tab. And there are 3rd party player app that can use Tegra 2 hardware acceleration to play videos that stock player can't. This is all software limitations in stock HC. Even when Tegra 3 comes out, HC as is will have the same limitation unless Google gets its act together.

I use dice player now, and my tab plays anything I throw at it. 1080p MKVs and avi files play awesome, even supports the multiple audio tracks and subtitles. No complaints here.
I personally don't need any more power in the tablet, it does everything I want it to do flawlessly.

Netflix Stutter issue

Hello!
So I've had my nexus player for a couple years now and just yesterday I decided to break into it and try out a few custom recoveries, roms, etc. I did this after the Oreo update came down and made it very slow, even after a full wipe (and I'm not a fan of the new interface either). So I got TWRP working without issue, tried out a 6.0.1 rom which had a few issues, moved on to a 7.1 rom with fewer issues, but ONE ISSUE persists through every android version I've had on this thing since it came out of the box, and I just don't understand it, nor can I find any real definitive answer to fixing it. Netflix playback stutters really badly at times. I have seen a handful of posts by others saying that netflix and other applications stutter, but mostly netflix, and I assume that the issue is rooted in the same problem, though I don't have any issues with videos from elsewhere. I use my NP strictly for youtube, plex, and netflix. Youtube and plex work wonderfully 99% of the time with no issues. Netflix on the other hand is unbearable! I've tried TVHZ on every setting, I've looked all around for any other settings I can change, I've changed HDMI cables, I've layed an ice pack on the thing to test the off-chance that it was running hot or something, I've changed TVs.....guys I just don't know what else to do. I don't usually ask for help because I typically don't need it, but seriously, what the heck is going on here? Defective unit???
So before we start, lets get this out of the way.
Shame on me for not addressing this a couple years ago and just suffering with it instead. There, I've shamed myself so now you don't have to.
YES! I did search the forum before posting this. Yes I found other threads centered around this issue. There were no answers.
YES! I have searched the internet with not much more success.
I am not an idiot and do not expect to be spoken to as one. Help or quietly move along.
If there is a solution here (or otherwise a definitive statement as to why the issue can not be fixed) and I have missed it, then I apologize in advance.
Like my list? It shouldn't be necessary, but the internet is an ugly place, 'nuff said.
Any help is much appreciated. If no help can be had then...well.....alright then. Time to move on I suppose.

Guess that means that there is no real answer. I can't say that I didn't half expect this.

Are you sure that your internet connection/wifi is good enough? I also see netflix shuttering from time to time, but it is mainly for 2 reasons:
1. It's changing video bitrate. Looks like the app is not able to transition smoothly between different bitrates. So if you connection speed in between medium-high and high for instance, the app might try to go upgrade and downgrade quality repeatedly, causing video freeze every time.
2. Your nexus player is running low on memory. It happened to me with an Airplay server app. It was consuming too much memory and that was causing Netflix video to shutter. The only solution I found was uninstalling the app
Here I'm talking about obvious shutter. If you are talking about micro-shuttering due to 24fps to 60fps conversion (visible for ~1 frame every minute or so) than there is no solution as we discussed in TVHZ thread.

HI you are not alone I have it too.
LG LARGO BEAMER anti jerking on 7, 1080P RGB 10BIT, MECOOL KIII PRO latest firmware (Android TV 7.1.1), NETFLIX (latest version) Black Mirror episode 2 after the elevator.
1. 60Hz at the right and left pans very blurred, micro stuttering.
2. 24hz right and left pans very sharp, jerky always short.
It is really bad. there must be a solution about the root tools any setting for the GPU.
or an app that prevents jerking, every bluerayplayer plays everything without jerking in 24Hz. it is a real poverty report.
If anyone knows what needs to be changed report. By the way, Android Blurayplayer is also available.
dates:
SoC - Amlogic S912 octa core ARM Cortex-A53 @ up to 1.5GHz with Mali-T820MP3 GPU
System Memory - 3 GB DDR3
That can not be the solution:
Here I'm talking about obvious shutter. If you are talking about micro-shuttering due to 24fps to 60fps conversion (visible for ~1 frame every minute or so) than there is no solution as we discussed in TVHZ thread.