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I have had the stock 101 from day one, installed all updates and find it to be a fairly good unit for a number of things except video playback. Not sure where the problem originates but this tab is useless for video playback. I am astounded on bad this tab operates. I consider it useless in its current state. I purchased the unit to read books surf and play videos nothing else. It can do the first two fairly well. I have tried just about everything that previous posts have recommended to no avail. Creating directories on the external SD card that disappear. It sometimes plays the video other times it will not. I have owned a few tabs and I consider this one to be the poorest one yet. I would not recommend the 101 to anyone that wants to watch videos without having to piss around to make the 101 operate as it should. This unit should be able to play most video types without having to resort to apps that trick it to work. I will now shut this thing down and not use it anymore. For me it is truly not worth the money I paid for it. This should never have been released to the public
I will fire up my Archos 101 and watch all of the same videos until I cannot stand it anymore. The 101 has no real video playback issues other than it does not support flash he last time I checked. It has its own flaws but it video playback is not one of them.
I really like the TF101 but I cannot overlook its clearly unstable, amazingly childish and poorly thought out video playback section. It is stock and I have not messed with it. I am not interested in spending countless hours conducting surgery on it to make it work. This tab should be able to play most videos out of the box.
My dislike for apple is slowly but surely being eroded with products such as the TF101.
ASUS or Android, you have a problem with your product. Fix it!
Not really a problem, and deffo not a "serious" one at that...
I have been playing flash videos on my TF101.
For the majority of other formats i use MX Video Player
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
Once installed it will prompt for a codec and direct you back to the market place to download it.
Good app, streams all my movies across my network when used with a cifs manager.
Funny, lots of us don't have any issues on ours.
If your rant is legit, go buy an iPad. If it isn't, go soak your head troll.
Which types of videos ?
Divx : try mx video player it's a good player and it's free
Mkv : diceplayer, paid app.
Btw : do you think you can play divx videos on the ipad out of the box ? The answer is no, so it's not better than the transformer for that purpose. And it doesn't have flash player.
Edit : the transformer can play wmv hd out of the box with honeycomb 3.2. What do you think about that ?
No troll here! Lighten up yank. Crawl back under your bankrupt rock. I enjoy my technology when it works. Just want it to work
Why do I read countless threads about such problems. They would not be there if they did not exist. I just want my unit to play stand alone on board videos without messing about. I down loaded the eight seasons of Red Dwarf. I would really like to watch on public transport.
Is that hard for you to just install an application ? If so it's also hard to transfer your videos on the tf. Then you shouldn't watch them.
Well, I hope you got that rant out of your system, because it wasn't really helpful to anyone but you. You could've summed it all up in one sentence: "Personally, I don't recommend the TF for playing videos."
I have an Archos 101 as well, and it does play video very well, because Archos is a media player company. They always have been. They paid extra for all those codecs, and skimped out on everything else. Asus made a tablet, Archos made a media player. Don't compare them.
And for the record, Diceplayer has played every file I've thrown at it. The AC3 codec pack for the Archos was $15, and it only enabled 2 or 3 new codecs. Diceplayer is $6 and it plays almost all codecs.
P.S. I still don't see how this relates to apple. Apple only supports MP4 and MOV. And if you use MOV, you probably still have an AOL account.
P.P.S. Also, what do you mean by "serious video problems"? It says in the specs what codecs it supports, and it plays them perfectly. I think you got spoiled by Archos, and thought every Android device had infinite codec support.
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No troll here! Lighten up yank. Crawl back under your bankrupt rock. I enjoy my technology when it works. Just want it to work
Why do I read countless threads about such problems. They would not be there if they did not exist. I just want my unit to play stand alone on board videos without messing about. I down loaded the eight seasons of Red Dwarf. I would really like to watch on public transport.
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Then can i refer you to my previous post, which happens to be the 1st reply to yours.
CaNsA said:
For the majority of other formats I use MX Video Player
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
Once installed it will prompt for a codec and direct you back to the market place to download it.
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It obvious you have just come on, ranted and because you haven't heard what you wanted/expected you have refused to listen to any advice.
Thanks!
I was not knowingly ranting. I just lay it out on the line. I failed at diplomacy 101. Tell it like it is. But I do expect value for money. Can't say I got that with the TF101 for what I want it to do. I have 4 pc's at home. Just want to surf and watch video on a small form factor. I think many people buy a tab for just what I am doing otherwise just use your PC. I guess I really do not understand what a tab is used for.
I am aware the differences the between the two brands. I am not sure if skimped out is the right term. The Archos is 100 less. I a not expecting it to perform like the TF101. But for that 100 I should get a fully functional video player. For 400 it should work out of the box. Remember the price of a PC's is comparable. Maybe I should not expect much for 400.
I am not concerned how much a add on costs as long as it works. Convert and and it
will work.
Just trying to make a point. Apple makes a good product right out of the box. I just do not want to live in a prison cell. Ipad is still way down the list. Steve and I are not currently talking to each other.
I have tried, AVS4you, DVD fab, Handbrake. All converted as recommended. Also loaded Daroon, Mobo, Rockplayer, Rockplayer lite. I wonder how may I have to try before I get the right one. I have spent two days reading through posts and trying everyone's recommendations as stated in my post. lots of hard work. Thanks to everyone for for the countless help threads. Been there done that. Something is not right.
I stand corrected. Very serious problems was the wrong term to use. Maybe something like " 400 spent and it cannot play the most common video formats, go figure".
I still think it is a firmware problem that should never have been. Not sure if it is a hardware problem, too many inconsistencies with on again off again performance. There are too many posts out there regarding this problem for it to be a non issue or operator error.
Your right, I did get spoiled by a somewhat inferior product. It is not very often less gets more. They are meant to do the same thing, with different quality of bits.
Thanks to everyone for you help threads. I have tried about everything that is recommended. Maybe it is time to RMA it. Do not think that will fix it. I am looking for a good media player similar to the TF101 but plays common video formats. Hardware based of course. I already have a few PC's do not need another one. Any recommendations?
anyone know why I can't play .MP4 videos anymore they are from my helmet cam
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Ellingsoc said:
anyone know why I can't play .MP4 videos anymore they are from my helmet cam
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What player are you using?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
I think one big problem is a lot of the players are not using hardware decoding including the stock video player. Why?
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Someone obviously didnt watch the video before registering on XDA
I Can't find any that work so give me a few to try the mobo mx don't work too well if at all these are like 720p videos too
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Dice player works well because it uses hardware decoding.
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I will try it thanks for the help
I get a message that says video can not be played any idea on what would cause that. Note this video works on my laptop just fine
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swampdonkey101 said:
No troll here! Lighten up yank. Crawl back under your bankrupt rock. I enjoy my technology when it works. Just want it to work
Why do I read countless threads about such problems. They would not be there if they did not exist. I just want my unit to play stand alone on board videos without messing about. I down loaded the eight seasons of Red Dwarf. I would really like to watch on public transport.
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You ***** and moan about having to use a program to watch video on your TF, but any of your "4" pc's are going to be the same. I find this highly entertaining. Also, you waste all this time trying things, and writing your snooty thread, that you could have spent doing a basic search to see which formats and programs work best.
Get your useless ass outta these forums, you obviously didn't watch the video or pay attention to the rules.
And instead of biting on your political jab, I'll just remind you, that without us, you'd not exist.
i have issues with mkv files in hardware decoding, it plays plays great but sound goes out after a min of playback on all players. But software decode they play fine. Give it time this tab is still a baby. It will keep growing, or so i hope
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I have tried, AVS4you, DVD fab, Handbrake. All converted as recommended. Also loaded Daroon, Mobo, Rockplayer, Rockplayer lite. I wonder how may I have to try before I get the right one. I have spent two days reading through posts and trying everyone's recommendations as stated in my post. lots of hard work. Thanks to everyone for for the countless help threads. Been there done that. Something is not right.
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Thanks to everyone for you help threads. I have tried about everything that is recommended. Maybe it is time to RMA it. Do not think that will fix it. I am looking for a good media player similar to the TF101 but plays common video formats. Hardware based of course. I already have a few PC's do not need another one. Any recommendations?
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No need to convert your downloaded videos, if you REALLY have problem, then you are the only one. Like everybody said : mxplayer or the player you mention (except daroon because it doesn't use third party codecs I think) should just do fine for divx. Sure the transformer have flaws but playing divx is not one of them.
Like you said you should RMA it if you're not satisfied. I don't know why you bought a transformer if the only thing you want is a media player, you should have kept the archos. But of course you won't have the nice screen of the asus.
@Ellingsoc : do you have a sample ? I'll try it.
Sorry for my bad english.
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They must not have google up there in the land of pancakes and hockey because I googled "video codecs for android" and it answered your question. It's even in french.
Please... Just box it up and return it, take the blue pill, and get an ipad before you hurt yourself.
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So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?
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So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?
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The hardware is capable of it. You just need to stop buying devices that don't hardware accelerate mkv files. You need to look for something with divx certification. My epic4g plays ridiculously high bitrate 720P mkv files FLAWLESSLY, because Samsung went the extra mile and got hardware acceleration for avi and mkv files. The evo is a mess because its made by HTC and HTC doesn't give a crap about media capability. The evo stutters playing AVI files because it has to software decode them, which makes me laugh at my friend who owns it. That giant screen and it is useless for video. A tablet without divx certification is useless to me, which is one of the dozen or so reasons I will not be buying the Xoom.
Well if they do that for the new Tab, then the Xoom is going right back.. I have 90 days to find out
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So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?
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Did you enable hardware decoding in the settings of RockPlayer?
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Did you enable hardware decoding in the settings of RockPlayer?
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That only works if the hardware supports hardware acceleration of the filetype, right? Does the Xoom support playing MKV and AVI files in the stock video player?
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Well if they do that for the new Tab, then the Xoom is going right back.. I have 90 days to find out
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Thats what I am hoping for too. So far the entire line of Galaxy S phones and the Galaxy Tab was divx HD certified. I am hoping and praying that the delicious Galaxy Tab 10.1 with its giant 6860 mah battery has Divx HD certification as well. I can't imagine it wouldn't.
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Did you enable hardware decoding in the settings of RockPlayer?
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Software only. :-(
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Software only. :-(
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Idk I turned on hardware decoding on RockPlayer in my Xoom and it started playing the 720P almost seamlessly, but no audio... weird
It is hardware decoding my mkv's though I am hitting an annoying bug where sound stops. going to home and back restores sound though.
The m4v I put on is being decoded in software and it can't quite handle it smoothly.
I will have to try a couple of my mp4 rips.
Yes they really should add more codecs to default Android. I bet they expected some 3rd party apps to arrive.
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So far, everything seems to work pretty well. No force closes, the few games I have tried look great, everything is nice and smooth for the most part.
But god dammit, I just wanted one thing. ONE THING. To be able to play scene release 720p HD Tv shows, when I'm on the train every day, without having to re-encode. For years, there has been almost no solution to this. I consider it nothing short of a miracle that I can play the lower quality xvid rips on my Evo.
There are always other players like Archos that just play this stuff right out of the box. But I always wished that something I would carry anyway would play it, like my phone or tablet.
I downloaded every media player I could get a hold of with good reviews. Rock Player, VPlayer, qqplayer, arcmedia, mVideoplayer. No success. The best I could get was sound with choppy/lagging video, in Rock Player.
I know there are alternatives, but like I said, for this to be a feature on something I would be carrying on an every day basis for multipurpose use, instead of a dedicated media player is top feature to me.
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any hope of this eventually working on the current slew of Honeycomb Tablets with app optimization, or if the processor just can't handle it. Anyone have decent/extensive knowledge on that subject?
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A similar problem on the Tegra 2 Notion Ink adam was fixed with a software update or a custom rom.
When shipped, all the players etc, were choppy or desynced or had no audio - but running a custom rom fixed these problems. Additionally, shortly after shipping, Notion ink provided an update that fixed these problems on stock.
Its definetly a software issue - it will be fixed soon im sure.
OK Rockplayer can not handle my default mp4 rips well. They are nothing particularly special though I don't use ... I can't remember the term. "simple mode" I use the higher modes to allow for better quality for size.
Ah well, most of my newer stuff I rip to mkv's anyway (subtitle and alternative audio support).
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Yes they really should add more codecs to default Android. I bet they expected some 3rd party apps to arrive.
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CODECs cost money to license them. Google leaves this up to the OEM's to pay the bill.
This handbrake preset produces great videos for my evo...
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This handbrake preset produces great videos for my evo...
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I'm sorry, not to use a Steve jobsism, but if you have to convert videos for your tablet you have failed. I think it's ridiculous to have to do it for phones, which is why i bought the epic4g. To have to do it on a tablet is ridiculous, especially one with a dual core processor and an eight core gpu. The freaking iPad can play 720p mkv files now with xbmc ported over.
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Strange as I am reading this a Xoom commercial came on the TV saying that the Xoom is "everything a tablet should be" and even showing a video playing on the device. I hope they are not serious about this issue.
+1 thanks for Costco return window
well I dont know what to say.. I tried two different formats (mp4 and mkv) 720p, and both worked just fine, all video and audio was perfect. These were top gear uk episodes. I'll try a dvd rip and see what happens now.
And.... any news in that regard?
If you own an iPad, how is this situation there?
I mean, can you just throw any video files and iPad will play it flawlessly?
I just want to know this comparison.
If VLC is available for Android, do you think this kind of issue will be solved?
I read this is caused by Google not investing on "codec" (licensing), neither does VLC.
If VLC can solve this, why Google does not want to use it
Sorry, if I got this all wrong. I am not an expert on video thing ...
HC 3.x only supports MP4 natively. Given Samsung's strong multimedia support for its GalTab7 and GalPlayer, I'm curious if it has also added enhanced multimedia support (specifically MKV support) to the 10.1. How about AC3/DTS? Can any owner give an answer? TIA.
nope. had to install moboplayer. even then, 720p still kinda chugged. I can't find an app that has hardware accelerated playback.
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nope. had to install moboplayer. even then, 720p still kinda chugged. I can't find an app that has hardware accelerated playback.
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that's probably because one doesn't exist
I do not own any Android device... (so no access to those apps) but maybe it would be possible for you guys to actually write to people/companies behind all those players and ask them - what is the situation with this thing. Mkv/ High Profile Videos/ Tegra 2/ Honeycomb and hardware acceleration...
Do they work on it?
If not - why?
Can it be done?
And so on...
Maybe they (developers of this software) would be able to clarify situation with video playback and what can we expect in coming weeks/months.
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Mkv/ High Profile Videos/ Tegra 2/ Honeycomb and hardware acceleration...
Do they work on it?
If not - why?
Can it be done?
And so on...
Maybe they (developers of this software) would be able to clarify situation with video playback and what can we expect in coming weeks/months.
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It's a known fact that base Android does not support MKV (video players on the market address this fine for the most part, like Moboplayer) and Tegra 2 cannot hardware accelerate any high profile encoded h264 videos (either in the mp4 or mkv container) - unfortunately there is no way around that as it is a hardware limitation - stupid Nvidia.
Sucks that Samsung joined the Tegra 2 bandwagon for the Gtab 10.1. The original Gtab has better multimedia capabilities than the thanks to the Hummingbird SoC.
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Sucks that Samsung joined the Tegra 2 bandwagon for the Gtab 10.1. The original Gtab has better multimedia capabilities than the thanks to the Hummingbird SoC.
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100% true if it only would be 10" not 7" I'd buy it today.
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100% true if it only would be 10" not 7" I'd buy it today.
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Problem with the Galaxy Tab 7 is that, even though it can play 720p MKV's perfectly, its only useful for TV shows. The 4GB file limit applies, and most full length movies will run 5 to 6 GB. I got around this by splitting the files but that's a pain for most people.
The XOOM doesn't have a 4GB limit on its internal storage, but I hear people claiming that the Galaxy tab 10.1 does have a 4GB limit (I kind of doubt this).
But if that were true, then even if the Galaxy tab 10.1 could play everything, a 4GB limit would prevent you from watching many downloaded full length movies. For that matter, if a 4GB file size limit is present, then even transcoded movies could be a problem - would force you to limit quality, bit rate etc.
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Problem with the Galaxy Tab 7 is that, even though it can play 720p MKV's perfectly, its only useful for TV shows. The 4GB file limit applies, and most full length movies will run 5 to 6 GB. I got around this by splitting the files but that's a pain for most people.
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Perhaps - dont know anything about it as with 7" screen it is to small (and uninteresting) for me.
Nevertheless I would expect it's younger brother to take all good stuff out of it and more goodies, etc..
For new 10.1 to be worse in stuff like than original GT is not even funny.
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Perhaps - dont know anything about it as with 7" screen it is to small (and uninteresting) for me.
Nevertheless I would expect it's younger brother to take all good stuff out of it and more goodies, etc..
For new 10.1 to be worse in stuff like than original GT is not even funny.
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Was looking forward to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a long time. Was 100% certain it was my next tablet. Was the primary reason I held off so long on buying a XOOM. Only reason I bought the XOOM was because it was taking Samsung so long to get the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to market.
Figured I would finally have a tablet that would play videos AND do everthing else. I really liked the Tab 7 and thought the 10.1 would be a big improvement. Was rumored to have Exynos and would play everything. But when I heard it had a Tegra 2, I was really disappointed. I already have a XOOM, and see little point in buying another Tegra 2 device. They are all just basically clones of each other - same basic capabilities, with small differences here and there.
However, if I did not have another Tegra 2 based device, then the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is probably the best you can get at this time (small form factor and good screen) and would buy it without hesitation. Only other option is to wait for Kal El - Tegra 3, and hope NVIDIA doesn't screw that up as well.
Think how insanely funny that would be - a quad core powered tablet that can't play videos!
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Think how insanely funny that would be - a quad core powered tablet that can't play videos!
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True indeed.
But what is very surprising for me is that all those big and small websites do keep very quiet about this issue. 99% of people I talk to are looking at me as a crazy person - how come??? It says in the ads it plays 1080p.! You must be wrong, etc.
I do think that ads are a bit false and that issue is BIG considering that cheaper tablets of previous generation had none of this problems for half of the price.
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True indeed.
But what is very surprising for me is that all those big and small websites do keep very quiet about this issue. 99% of people I talk to are looking at me as a crazy person - how come??? It says in the ads it plays 1080p.! You must be wrong, etc.
I do think that ads are a bit false and that issue is BIG considering that cheaper tablets of previous generation had none of this problems for half of the price.
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You can refer those people to these articles:
3 Surprising things About Video on Android Tablets
http://niallohiggins.com/2011/03/07/3-surprising-things-about-video-on-android-tablets/
Boxee Box ditches NVIDIA's Tegra 2
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/boxee-box-ditches-nvidias-tegra-2-for-intel-ce4100-pre-orders/
1080p can ba many things
Short movie? Long movie? Mini clips?
Video codec? Audio?
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galtom said:
True indeed.
But what is very surprising for me is that all those big and small websites do keep very quiet about this issue. 99% of people I talk to are looking at me as a crazy person - how come??? It says in the ads it plays 1080p.! You must be wrong, etc.
I do think that ads are a bit false and that issue is BIG considering that cheaper tablets of previous generation had none of this problems for half of the price.
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Than fair thin to do would be to put a "*" there and mention conditions.
You know what I am talking about.
iPad and Apple does not advertise stuff they do not do at home - and average Joe is happy.
Now, Mr Joe goes to the shop (he saw all those ads) he buys Xoom or any other Android tablet. Gets home and what? He says never again - they promised and not delivered, Android and (insert manufacturer name here) are sh..t.
I talk about ppl. who do not read to much, do not visit XDA... Apple-like users who android tablets manufacturers want to steal from apple.
Apple is even worse, they advertise "HD movie"
http://www.apple.com/ipad/built-in-apps/videos.html
And the screen is not even 720p !
Oh and there is that iTunes which safeguards that Mr. Joe. He will say "My iPad can play all kind of video files, it's magical ..."
So, I believe, Android might not be for Mr. Joe ... That Mr. Joe
Because That Mr. Joe won't download movies via torrents or P2P, he will buy from iTunes hehehe ...
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Than fair thin to do would be to put a "*" there and mention conditions.
You know what I am talking about.
iPad and Apple does not advertise stuff they do not do at home - and average Joe is happy.
Now, Mr Joe goes to the shop (he saw all those ads) he buys Xoom or any other Android tablet. Gets home and what? He says never again - they promised and not delivered, Android and (insert manufacturer name here) are sh..t.
I talk about ppl. who do not read to much, do not visit XDA... Apple-like users who android tablets manufacturers want to steal from apple.
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Apple is even worse, they advertise "HD movie"
http://www.apple.com/ipad/built-in-apps/videos.html
And the screen is not even 720p !
Oh and there is that iTunes which safeguards that Mr. Joe. He will say "My iPad can play all kind of video files, it's magical ..."
So, I believe, Android might not be for Mr. Joe ... That Mr. Joe
Because That Mr. Joe won't download movies via torrents or P2P, he will buy from iTunes hehehe ...
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We've gone over this before. iPad2 can play HD movies downloaded from torrenting, in high profile 720p and MKV containter, with app store players like AVPlayerHD that doesn't need iTunes to transfer files. It's just that the screen isn't 1280x720, but it can indeed play the content and much better than any Tegra 2 tablet. I'm not a fanboy. I'm just pointing out facts when I had the Transformer and iPad 2.
gogol said:
So, I believe, Android might not be for Mr. Joe ... That Mr. Joe
Because That Mr. Joe won't download movies via torrents or P2P, he will buy from iTunes hehehe ...
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You are wrong here. Many ppl. who do not know much about computers do not like apple.
Android tablets are cheaper and advertised.
All of my friends in UK who were unable to install Windows by themselves had no problems with downloads from the likes of rapidhshare...
And now most of the stuff published and downloaded are BR rips - 720p High Profile.
I could understand why Sony would be more than happy if their tablet would not support videos of that kind but Samsung...?
Yes, thats true. My point was exactly like that. IPad screen is not for HD, its a waste. And who knows, probably blitzing bitmap into that smaller resolution helps the performance.
Also Android still does not have decent MKV player. I am betting on CoreCodec t release their CorePlayer. That certainly will help MKV scene on Android.
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We've gone over this before. iPad2 can play HD movies downloaded from torrenting, in high profile 720p and MKV containter, with app store players like AVPlayerHD that doesn't need iTunes to transfer files. It's just that the screen isn't 1280x720, but it can indeed play the content and much better than any Tegra 2 tablet. I'm not a fanboy. I'm just pointing out facts when I had the Transformer and iPad 2.
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You get what you paid for cheap Android tablets. It is not even widely advertised. When I was in Germany last week, i saw only iPad ads, no Android. No wonder here. Things like those cheapy Android tablets, let alone Xoom or Transformer. Ipad ads were everywhere.
You might have those savvy Joe friends, but there are a lot more other non savvy Joes out there. Who buy stuffs from itunes and use ipad for facebook alike
Who dont know how to unrar files from torrents, nor join split files from rapidshare.
Who dont know why the movie cannot be played because has ogg vorbis in it.
See? Those people are a lot more compare to your kind of Joe. Otherwise we will be very happy with our sociaty, because we have more savvy people around us!
Go around and ask people passing by, "do you know what MKV is?". then count who know from 100 samples.
Just to proove your point, for fun.
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You are wrong here. Many ppl. who do not know much about computers do not like apple.
Android tablets are cheaper and advertised.
All of my friends in UK who were unable to install Windows by themselves had no problems with downloads from the likes of rapidhshare...
And now most of the stuff published and downloaded are BR rips - 720p High Profile.
I could understand why Sony would be more than happy if their tablet would not support videos of that kind but Samsung...?
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Yeah I look forward to CorePlayer as well. I'm just having mixed feelings how Samsung has provided info on this whole launch with all these conflicting specs. Heck even on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 microsite under the faq's it tells you to download Android File Transfer for Mac users and AFT doesn't even work with the 10.1 yet. One thing I really don't like is that one member here has reported that his Xvid avi file would not play with the stock player while it lists on the official samsung specs that Xvid and avi are supported natively. It could've been the audio was AC3 but usually the stock player will still play video, just with no sound, but his video wasn't even played at all I believe.
Either way, I'm not going to worry too much on MKV with tegra 2 tablets. I don't mind re-encoding for the next 6 or so months until Kal-el tabs start coming around... hopefully.
Gogol, you are right, nut remember that those ppl. are target. They make a volume sales, they got cash for devices and all other extra bits.
They are the ones who bought over 15 million devices last year and they are the ones android manufacturers want.
I am sorry but we here ale not that important.
And those ppl. above will get home and first time they will try to watch something they will say - android - never again.
BUT!: how would you understand this:
http://www.samsung.de/de/Privatkund...T-P7500UWDDBT/detail.aspx?atab=specifications
DivX support Yes (This feature is available in Q3 with a software update.)
I'm going to Best Buy here in a few... I know I'll fall in love with the GT 10.1. I really like the idea of the Archos, but...... the wait is killing me.
I'm not looking to view DVD quality movies on my tab. I'm not looking to encode anything. My house is wired up so that I can access all my files wirelessly throughout anyhow... I just want something that when I toss on a DIVX, AVI, ETC, standard 1gb file that I stole from the internet (um, I mean legally download) that it will play when I'm out and about, etc. My Droid Incredible plays most any file I put on it so I'm hoping the same from this tablet?
Any huge problems? I have little patience and my days of encoding things are long behind me when all I do is download, watch and then trash.
I haven't had any problems playing my downloaded movies/TV shows (even HD) with Mobo player. And when Samsung releases TouchWiz media playback will only get better.
I haven't figured out the correct sizing for ripped dvds (I'm sure its in one of these forums somewhere) but the movies that I have copied over look great and play well. They are just not full screen.
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I'm going to Best Buy here in a few... I know I'll fall in love with the GT 10.1. I really like the idea of the Archos, but...... the wait is killing me.
I'm not looking to view DVD quality movies on my tab. I'm not looking to encode anything. My house is wired up so that I can access all my files wirelessly throughout anyhow... I just want something that when I toss on a DIVX, AVI, ETC, standard 1gb file that I stole from the internet (um, I mean legally download) that it will play when I'm out and about, etc. My Droid Incredible plays most any file I put on it so I'm hoping the same from this tablet?
Any huge problems? I have little patience and my days of encoding things are long behind me when all I do is download, watch and then trash.
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I got GT10.1 last night. I was going to get the transformer, but I did a little comparison in Best Buy. I played the same Youtube HD Music video on both tablets. The Asus playback was skip and wasnt totally smooth. The GT was totally smooth so I went with the Sammy.
Thanks for the input!
I picked up a tab a bit ago, time to charge it and let the fun begin!
Now, I hope the Archos G9 sucks major donkey balls, so that way I don't get buyers remourse! LOL
After fiddling with all the other tablets at Best Buy and Fry's, I was really impressed with how light the GT 10.1 is. Maybe I was just feeling lazy, but that alone made me want it. It feels so nice in hand. Better than the iPad 2 that I had and returned.
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I got GT10.1 last night. I was going to get the transformer, but I did a little comparison in Best Buy. I played the same Youtube HD Music video on both tablets. The Asus playback was skip and wasnt totally smooth. The GT was totally smooth so I went with the Sammy.
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The TF at bestbuy is on 3.0. Theres no issue when its on 3.1
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The TF at bestbuy is on 3.0. Theres no issue when its on 3.1
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There does seem to be a problem with Flash video on the TF, as it appears that hardware acceleration is not enabled.
I'd expect that to be fixed soon though.
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It won't play mkv files. So, i've been ripping my videos to m4v format. If the source file is at a high enough resolution, i use 1280 x 720 at 1200kbs. I get a pretty good picture and a movie will be around 800MB to 1GB?
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I have had this Xoom tablet since Monday and every evening after work I've been busy toying with it to see what it can do. Wasn't sure initially that I was going to get it since a new version is about to hit the markets, but I got a good deal at Dixons in Dublin airport (€289) for the WiFi version.
Anyway, in most of the things it's a great toy but it has a few, but really annoying, shortcomings:
- Not able to charge via USB cable
- Not able to mount like a normal Android device to my computers
- Playing movies is a a horrible experience, if at all possible.
For the second item, I have downloaded and installed the Motorola drivers for my Windows PC and after that it mounts just fine. Same goes for my Mac. For Linux I had to fire up the Terminal and do some fiddling following various guides on how to set up USB mounting and Samba sharing. So it's not impossible, just annoying that manual setup needs to be done on various platforms...or perhaps I'm just lazy.
I have quite a few .mkv movie files and I have searched this forum for players that will accept the files. None of the players I've downloaded are able to play mkv even with Codecs installed. All of the players mentioned in this thread do not work with a mkv file the size of 1.5GB. There appears to be software that can convert the files to be more Xoom friendly, but it costs about $30. Of course, seeing my mate being able to play all movie files on his HP TouchPad with WebOS without problems doesn't exactly help to lift my spirits.
I did have some issues with Google Music not wanting to remember my online collection but since downloading the latest app yesterday this now appears to be fixed.
My Xoom runs Tiamat Xoom Rom 2.2.2 - Moray and I flashed the Odachi kernel.
Other than my ranting above the Xoom is great for browsing the web, skype, listening to music and reading books (becoming addicted to buying books in Kindle)
For the MKV files - handbrake won't convert em for you? Cause that's free - and what I use to convert raw material for my xoom.
edit: and I personally have never seen a tablet that charges via USB. Samsung's galaxy tabs charge via their dock, my old nook color required the charger to charge, even though it was a modified USB cable, and the xoom is well.. we know already.
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For the MKV files - handbrake won't convert em for you? Cause that's free - and what I use to convert raw material for my xoom.
edit: and I personally have never seen a tablet that charges via USB. Samsung's galaxy tabs charge via their dock, my old nook color required the charger to charge, even though it was a modified USB cable, and the xoom is well.. we know already.
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Haven't used Handbrake in a while so I'll have a try to see if it works. Any special settings you set up in Handbrake for it to work with the Xoom?
This is my first tablet so I don't actually have much to compare with regarding the USB charging. I just mentioned the lack of USB charging to two colleagues who have HP tablets and they were surprised that it needs an actual wall charger.
As its been said many times before USB charging would take forever on a tablet. I can charge my xoom to 100% way faster then my girlfriends Galaxy 10 which uses the 5v USB.
And the way the file managing is done is better and worse in a way. Phones and pcs handle it better and i haven't had a issue with corrupting my sd card like i did with my Droid 2 and the old mounting. But linux is a pain to get MTP to work with. On my Win 7 pcs it saw it right away and worked with out needing anything DLed.
And handbrake does all my video converting great. It may not be super 1080P HD but i really dont need super HD on a tablet. Ill try to pull my preset file for you to try.
I use MX Player off of the market for MKV files and it plays them flawlessly when changing to software decoding and such for certain files. You should look into that.
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I use MX Player off of the market for MKV files and it plays them flawlessly when changing to software decoding and such for certain files. You should look into that.
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I second MX Player off of the market (http://goo.gl/WvXLa).
I also found pre-alpha VLC player that I've used without any issues.
http://dl.cvpcs.org/android/test/common/VLC-neon.apk
http://dl.cvpcs.org/android/test/common/VLC-noneon.apk
I used to convert my video with Handspring but I no longer have to with these two awesome video players.
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I use MX Player off of the market for MKV files and it plays them flawlessly when changing to software decoding and such for certain files. You should look into that.
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Tried that but it didn't work even when changing to software decoding.
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I also found pre-alpha VLC player that I've used without any issues.
http://dl.cvpcs.org/android/test/common/VLC-neon.apk
http://dl.cvpcs.org/android/test/common/VLC-noneon.apk
I used to convert my video with Handspring but I no longer have to with these two awesome video players.
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Cool thanks! Was looking for VLC earlier. Will give these a try.
Edit: first one (VLC-nonneon) works albeit the picture is not very steady. Loads of small breaks when playing a film. Second one force closes.
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Cool thanks! Was looking for VLC earlier. Will give these a try.
Edit: first one (VLC-nonneon) works albeit the picture is not very steady. Loads of small breaks when playing a film. Second one force closes.
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Just out of curiosity, how large are these files you're testing with? .mkv's, .avi's?
The VLC app works for me if I don't try to jump all around the videos too often. It's pre-alpha so there should be some quirks.
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Just out of curiosity, how large are these files you're testing with? .mkv's, .avi's?
The VLC app works for me if I don't try to jump all around the videos too often. It's pre-alpha so there should be some quirks.
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The files were about 1.5 GB. I've tried with smaller files and that seems to work. I just assumed that any file under 4 GB would play without problems. In any case I've fired up Handbrake to compress the movie files. Great with free software
My way of doing things.
so far i havent had any problems playing videos, partially because things have been too hectic for the 4g xooms so i keep changing stuff, and partially because most of the movies i own in digital form all play without hesitation, like from the google movies.
as far as mounting goes, windows does fine once u have the drivers, but i hate paying for software, so fudge windows. linux on the other hand is easy, all i do is boot into cwm and mount usb drive. works like a snap, prob work in windows too, just havent tried. that lets u access your externalsd, but theres prob a way to mount ur internal, just havent tried that yet either.
and the charging i read somewhere actually works through usb, its just so slow, and so low that one, it doesnt register, and two it would only really be fesible in an emergency. but i actually like the fact we get a full powered charger that just juices it up quick and painlessly. true the only way to charge it on the go is get a seperate charger, or a converter, but i can live with the battery power.
hope u figure your stuff out, i love this thing. does all i want and more, witht the added benefit of having a metal case, which is more important than u think!! wait till your mates drop their pads, i put mine through some rough wear, and that metal case has saved it several times. the biggest thing that breaks on these that ive seen is the glass on the screen, which is a pretty easy fix, plus it wont make it unusable if u do, just gotta live with it. have fun!!!
I use MX Player to play video files that were nearly 1.1GBs, never had a problem. Is the Video the problem or the audio when you were using it?
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I use MX Player to play video files that were nearly 1.1GBs, never had a problem. Is the Video the problem or the audio when you were using it?
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It's the video that lags.
no lag now after the films were compressed with handbrake. Happy days
I play 10GB MKVs with MX Video player, I have no idea why you would be having issues with your files. I love my Xoom and MX plays everything
charged it to 100 % last night and it was at 99% thus morning. Just one per cent down in 10 hours with screen off. That's very impressive!
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no lag now after the films were compressed with handbrake. Happy days
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What format did you convert too? MP4?
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slonn said:
charged it to 100 % last night and it was at 99% thus morning. Just one per cent down in 10 hours with screen off. That's very impressive!
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Yep in my experience this is pretty normal! ;-)
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From my personal experiences:
- Not able to charge via USB cable
Aye, that's a shame but understandable due to the amount of power needed.
- Not able to mount like a normal Android device to my computers
Unfortunately this will be the way for all android devices, also all phones. This is due to the switch to MTP connectivity from ICS and up. Google made this switch so they were able to pool all the memory in a device to a single storage pool, this to avoid all the issues with earlier (low amount of memory) devices which would run out of space after installing a lot of applications like for example the HTC Desire or original Nexus.
- Playing movies is a a horrible experience, if at all possible.
Agreed, it was quite a let down, mostly due to the limitations of the Tegra cpu. As mentioned by a lot of others MX player does it pretty well however, for my own collection i use and can advise you Plex. Its removes the need to recode anything in you library. On the move its not an option if you are without wifi in your case (i have a 3g Xoom myself) but its awesome when connected.
Enjoy your device.
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What format did you convert too? MP4?
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No, converted it to m4v.
Im considering purchasing an Iconia Tab, spec wise it's a decent all around tablet. What I want is how well will this supplement the rest of my household and mobile devices, can I use this as a fill in for my bulky lap top when I decide to not carry it around, how well will this stream videos across the hdmi port to my tv rather than buying another box for my entertainment system. Just info in general is what I seek, and who better to ask than you guys.
Yes this device is awesome.. Streaming thru hdmi does work . I have done so with much success .Thou there are limitations.. READ THE FIRST STICKY Thread . by Wearcat.. she is awesome with this type of stuff .
as far as other things ..
things i use my tablet for
only thing i check email on.
browser forums
web site stuff google music and can browser my home network from anywhere
GPS
so it can replace most of the things you HAVE TO DO Short of editing images and major documents typing is not great on the tab unless you plug in a keyboard ..
i would say if your buying a tablet get this one over the available tablets.. or wait until tegra 3 comes out.. but waiting will be more costly new tech is not cheap
Not really looking for something to completely repalce my lap top as of yet, granted I havent turned it on really in months other than to charge one of my phones from time to time. Acer to me seems to build a reliable product, I have 2 17" laptops, and I purchased two Acer netbooks for my children. It looks like it would be a great supplement to the rest of my android fleet as well. Really just need something that I can take when I travel light, read emails, check my google voice, read books, watch a video here or there, more or less something to replace some dutie of my phone while at home and to replace some duties of my laptop while away. Will probly use it as gps too since its got a bigger screen would look great mounted in my truck OOOH better yet remove my radio and install bluetooth speakers with a custom built dash mount.
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how well will this stream videos across the hdmi port to my tv rather than buying another box for my entertainment system. Just info in general is what I seek, and who better to ask than you guys.
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If you live in the US you're in for a treat as you can use Google Videos for renting and streaming movies and Google Music to store all your songs there and streaming them too so you don't have to use tablet's own storage space for them.
And yes, displaying videos through HDMI works just fine, though there are several limitations. Like for example, you will only get 720p output if you use non-default player, the default player is AFAIK the only one that can do 1080p output, but then again the default player doesn't support .MKV files or subtitles or anything.
As for actual movies themselves: the tablet only supports 1080p basic-profile, meaning that you will have to transcode almost everything you might already have. Not to mention that the tablet also doesn't handle AC3 audio, so again you will have to downmix audio first before you transfer the file to the tablet.
You have to decide for yourself if it's worth the hassle, but I would personally suggest getting a Tegra3 - based tablet instead even though it's more expensive, just to save you from the hassle from having to transcode everything. It really is a terribly hassle if you are a film buff like myself.
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If you live in the US you're in for a treat as you can use Google Videos for renting and streaming movies and Google Music to store all your songs there and streaming them too so you don't have to use tablet's own storage space for them.
And yes, displaying videos through HDMI works just fine, though there are several limitations. Like for example, you will only get 720p output if you use non-default player, the default player is AFAIK the only one that can do 1080p output, but then again the default player doesn't support .MKV files or subtitles or anything.
As for actual movies themselves: the tablet only supports 1080p basic-profile, meaning that you will have to transcode almost everything you might already have. Not to mention that the tablet also doesn't handle AC3 audio, so again you will have to downmix audio first before you transfer the file to the tablet.
You have to decide for yourself if it's worth the hassle, but I would personally suggest getting a Tegra3 - based tablet instead even though it's more expensive, just to save you from the hassle from having to transcode everything. It really is a terribly hassle if you are a film buff like myself.
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Not a big movie buff, just like to watch them, and really for me watching a movie on it would be a once in a blue moon thing and not a big deal breaker. Most typically stream movies through my xbox, and my tv only plays at 720p so no 1080 for me as of yet. I did read your thread about the handbrake looks involved but not extremely advanced difficult. Thanks for your input think Ill go with this until the tegra 3 comes out then weigh my options then. Maybe by then Ill be able to get a new TV to compliment a new tablet.
And seriously you edited your post because of a missing semicolon? I bet it pains you to read the gibberish I just typed.
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Not a big movie buff, just like to watch them, and really for me watching a movie on it would be a once in a blue moon thing and not a big deal breaker. Most typically stream movies through my xbox, and my tv only plays at 720p so no 1080 for me as of yet. I did read your thread about the handbrake looks involved but not extremely advanced difficult. Thanks for your input think Ill go with this until the tegra 3 comes out then weigh my options then. Maybe by then Ill be able to get a new TV to compliment a new tablet.
And seriously you edited your post because of a missing semicolon? I bet it pains you to read the gibberish I just typed.
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Yes she does...I think its so cute.her and a few of the guys are on me often for my lack of typing and spelling skills.
But they loves me so i not cry too often. Giggles.
The post for using Handbrake to convert the vids has worked perfectly fine on all the videos I have had to convert and is much easier to do than the instructions make it sound. The instructions are actually just really detailed, so there's less to do than what you read.
One of my favorite uses now for the tablet... I have a Super Nintendo again!. I finally got a wired generic PS3 remote, using some SNES emulator (forgot which), connected to my TV over HDMI, and some, um... "backed up" SNES games and BAM, full SNES center again. I am such a nerd for "The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past".
Also, when I'm feeling really lazy, I use TeamViewer to remote into my HTPC and use it as my wireless keyboard/mouse. AND, if you have a Sony Media Streamer, there is a Android app to allow you to control your N100 or N200 from the tablet. Oh, and I read a lot of eBooks on it.
All in all, just as you mentioned, this tablet is a great "supplement", and since I never have the need for heavy duty computing while on the go, the tablet is all I've ever needed when I am not home. The main reason for me choosing this one ovr the others was the built in ports such as the miniUSB, USB, HDMI, and audio ports. Yeah those may have added a little girth and heft to the device, but those were bonuses for me instead of getting a device where you need to buy different adapters to have the same ports.
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Not a big movie buff, just like to watch them, and really for me watching a movie on it would be a once in a blue moon thing and not a big deal breaker. Most typically stream movies through my xbox, and my tv only plays at 720p so no 1080 for me as of yet.
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Then you should have no issues A500 works just fine for streaming movies, too, though there is no DLNA client on it by default. You can install one from the Market anyways so it's not such a huge issue.
I did read your thread about the handbrake looks involved but not extremely advanced difficult.
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It actually isn't all that difficult, I just rather write too much than too little when writing a guide or tutorial. Basically import profile, select file and press Start
And seriously you edited your post because of a missing semicolon? I bet it pains you to read the gibberish I just typed.
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Aye. I sometimes obsess quite a bit over proper punctuation and spelling. But then again, it's not a bad quality for someone who often writes guides, tutorials or tries to help people on the Internets
Well I bought it last night and I gotta say what an amazing piece of hardware. I havent found a feature yet that I dislike. Seems to have ample computing power for what I need, and the display is fairly decent sems a little washed out on the white side but still good. Thanks for everyones help.
Read twice flash once.!!!!!!!
your very welcome thank everyone by reading before flashing so that you don't mess the tablet up.
Something that im guessing is easily done.
Flashed mine 30or so times and never bricked thou close once.
Man.... almost grounds for visiting a "dating" site....
What ever happened to "brute force"?
No, we have to have "correct" punctuation here... Wani wani wani...
Just get the tab. For the money, you will not find a finer device.
Or a better lot of people to support it
I just bought mine a couple of days ago and I am very happy with it. Trying to read as much as I can before the rooting process begins.... You will be happy with it.