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Visit Groubal and sign the petition: http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Retweet: http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/52265679990169600
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/unlockmoto
UPDATE (14th June 2011):
We are now over the 10,000 mark.
I have now spoken with Motorola and gotten confirmation that Motorola plan to unlock every device that will get an update in the second half of this year. This will include maintenance & firmware updates, but is still subject to Carrier approval.
The promising sign is that Verizon has already allowed Motorola to unlock a device on their network, the Xoom, which utilizes the unlockable/re-lockable model that Motorola intends on using across their devices.
I'm still looking to work with Motorola in the coming months to help see if we can make this a smooth process for Motorola and the community.
You can read the article here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-u...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+ausdroid+(Ausdroid)
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
UPDATE (26th April 2011):
We are now at ~8,700 mark.
Motorola has now responded to me, stating that they are looking at unlocking bootloaders across their devices late 2011.
The article for the story can be found here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/#more-8184
We're still seeking clarity around whether this will be for current devices or only future devices.
I couldn't have gotten this far without the support of everyone here. You guys and girls have been a huge support and help me turn this snowball into a wrecking ball.
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
Previous Update (4th April 2011):
We are now at ~7600 mark.
We're starting to slow down from our initial boom, so I have now set up a Facebook page to see if we can wrangle in some supporters that don't use Twitter or XDA.
I will need your help getting this out there. So share the facebook page where you can.
I'm also looking to see if anyone is interested in helping me Moderate the page. Please PM if you are.
Original Post:
Hi All,
I have created a Groubal (online petition) to get a response from Motorola on it's bootloader policy.
>>This petition started for the Atrix, but I made sure that it was for Motorola's overall Bootloader Policy. I have reached 200 signatures in 2 weeks, but now believe it's time to expand this out of the Atrix space and into the larger Motorola Dev community.
You guys and your silly petitions. They wont and don't ha e to do anything.
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DarrellRaines said:
You guys and your silly petitions. They wont and don't ha e to do anything.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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What can I say, I'm idealistic.
IMO waste of time.
Moto thinks they're God. Also, odds are your gorilla glass will be cracked before this bootloader.
On the other hand, class-action lawsuit is more appealing. Somehow get a lawyer to argue the users right to UTILIZE the hardware, as moto isn't. Lawsuits are the only thing corporations understand.
I did sign it, but I got no hopes...
tical2k said:
IMO waste of time.
Moto thinks they're God. Also, odds are your gorilla glass will be cracked before this bootloader.
On the other hand, class-action lawsuit is more appealing. Somehow get a lawyer to argue the users right to UTILIZE the hardware, as moto isn't. Lawsuits are the only thing corporations understand.
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While litigation may be the way in the U.S. it is not the way in the land down under. We have Government appointed watchdogs that provide avenues for complaints and comments. If a complaint is sufficiently raised to an Ombudsman the company the complaint is about is charged a fee for every day the complaint is not resolved.
Unfortunately the Atrix is not commercially available in Australia and thus I cannot pursue this in a typical Australian way.
If suing the pants of Motorola is likely to work, then I encourage any U.S. Citizens to do so (but only after carefully considering the cause and affect).
I am simply encouraging everyone to focus their complaints rather than spreading it across so many channels and losing it's potency.
Also: in all honesty, it's not really wasting that much time, since I would normally be wasting this time flashing experimental Roms, which I can't do due to obvious readons.
Signed and linked to on Facebook. It's no more a waste of time than flashing a rom...
edit hehe. You beat me to the waste of time comment
Signed it just a second ago!
I'll sign but this has a much lower chance of succeeding than the AT&T service petition, and I'm not convinced we'll see many results from that one.
CC Lemon said:
I'll sign but this has a much lower chance of succeeding than the AT&T service petition, and I'm not convinced we'll see many results from that one.
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But there's no harm in trying is there?
I think that when compared with the DroidX and Droid2, this phone will be available around the world. Verizon is one of the only carriers that still uses CDMA and thus smaller consumer base for the Droid series Motorola phones.
Once the Global Atrix's are released we should see a lot more attention as well as the European Unions attitude towards anti-competitive behaviour might force an inquiry.
Once again, I'm a tad idealistic and am very keen for your support as well as your constructive feedback.
signed~! but i only put 1% of my hopes in this and the rest 99% in the developers to crack the bootloader themselves!!
I support your cause; I have signed.
irenic said:
signed~! but i only put 1% of my hopes in this and the rest 99% in the developers to crack the bootloader themselves!!
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Well put. I signed.
With the new SBF file available we could start seeing more development, but would still be great to hear something from Motorola.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989577
haha.. as if motorola cares. you already bought, its a done deal! they even promised 1080p recording on the specs sheet followed by "(in the future update)".. i seriously dont think there will be an update on this thing..
before you buy, they promise lots of things, "in the future update".
after you gave buy and after a while try asking for the update.. these f*cktards will just say... "what update?"
my hope leans more on supporting the developers who are working hard to crack this wonderful device.. rather than wasting time begging to motorola after you shelled out that sum.
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haha.. as if motorola cares. you already bought, its a done deal! they even promised 1080p recording on the specs sheet followed by "(in the future update)".. i seriously dont think there will be an update on this thing..
before you buy, they promise lots of things, "in the future update".
after you gave buy and after a while try asking for the update.. these f*cktards will just say... "what update?"
my hope leans more on supporting the developers who are working hard to crack this wonderful device.. rather than wasting time begging to motorola after you shelled out that sum.
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Completely agree, but in all honesty, I had the time to waste.
The Dev's really are the ones that will get the bootloader unlocked or bypassed before motorola even decides to do anything.
The Dev threads are starting to get really exciting.
Sent from my MB860
Just a reminder to anyone who wants to get an official statement from Motorola to go to http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
and tweet or facebook to as many as you can.
Continuing the Battle
So we're up near the 200 signature mark now for the Petition. I've been in touch with Motorola about 6 times in the last 2 weeks, not giving up on this one though.
My last response from them was:
Dear Irwin,
I do apologize but there is no definite timeframe yet for the announcement of the bootloader solution for our mobile phones. Updates for the Motorola ATRIX will be posted first at http://www.motorola.com/Support/CA-EN/Consumer-Support/Mobile-Phones/ATRIX. I'm so sorry for that inconvenience.
We hope that you find this information useful and look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
Neil
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So it's not a flat out denial of an imminent bootloader solution, but we're no closer either.
I will now create similar posts in the other Motorola forums on XDA and see if we can get our Brothers & Sisters to join the party.
I know there are a lot of skeptics, but I will keep trying. I don't have the skill to help the Dev's crack the phone, but I do have the patience to make our voices heard.
ikenley said:
So we're up near the 200 signature mark now for the Petition. I've been in touch with Motorola about 6 times in the last 2 weeks, not giving up on this one though.
My last response from them was:
So it's not a flat out denial of an imminent bootloader solution, but we're no closer either.
I will now create similar posts in the other Motorola forums on XDA and see if we can get our Brothers & Sisters to join the party.
I know there are a lot of skeptics, but I will keep trying. I don't have the skill to help the Dev's crack the phone, but I do have the patience to make our voices heard.
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"bootloader solution" can mean anything. it can even mean staying with their locked bootloader is their solution.
dLo GSR said:
"bootloader solution" can mean anything. it can even mean staying with their locked bootloader is their solution.
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Very concise point, but if you review this statement, then it's in context.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278
Which is all included in the Groubal.
Signed. Maybe someone should design a B&W 8.5x11 printout that can be posted at universities to drum up support... I'm in a CS program and I'm sure there are more than a couple who would take the 2 seconds necessary to sign- I just don't know any of them personally!
My experience with the MFN thus far has been positive. I would encourage Motorola Xoom (and other Moto Device) owners to sign up for this feedback network. According to their community manager Matt who regularly posts in the forums there they are expanding this program.
Currently, members of the MFN who signed up prior to the 3.1 release are pretty much all enjoying the benefits in the form of being the first handful to have 3.1 pushed to their device. This group of people have been for the last 24 hours running their devices through its paces.
This morning, Motorola tweeted that the update would be pushed out over the coming week(s) and at this point the baton is in the hands of Google.
Sign up for the MFN Here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BG8FYV5
You can read the original thread about MFN Here: https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45482
I joined MFN and I am very happy to have done so.
Waste of time for those of us outside the US, they don't care about keeping us informed or even helping without information on updates.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.
In 2012 Motorola announced she would upgrade our devices, Atrix and Photon, to Ice Cream Sandwich in Q3. As you all know, they have changed their stance, leaving us with an outdated version of Android to play with. Our devices can easily run even the last version of Android, Jelly Bean, so why the update was canceled for us?
With the Update My Moto! campaign, we are asking for a leak of what was been done before they canceled the update or a compatible Tegra 2 kernel for Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean. With these files, XDA developers can fix the problems themselves, while Motorola can make up for this mistake they made.
You can help us to achieve that. Share this campaign in your blog, social network, show it to your friends or file a BBB complaint. Let's grab Motorola's attention!
ACCESS THE WEBSITE
Share the campaign
Helping the campaign is pretty easy. If you spread the campaign, you are helping already!
Share on Twitter
Share on Facebook
Share on Google Plus
Share on Digg
Share on Reddit
Share on Pinterest
If you have a personal blog, you can also write about the campaign and ask your readers to help to share it. Even if they don't have an Atrix or a Photon, they might share and help us with the campaign
Sharing with images
You can save the images bellow and share on Facebook, Google Plus and other social networks or blogs, just don't forget to share the campaign's link too!
http://i50.tinypic.com/2it38zt.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t249/rhada-mg/UpdateMyMoto-Trial-2.png
http://ubuntucdn.ubuntubrsc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/updatemymoto.jpg
I will add more when we got them. If you want to add one here, just leave a message with the link for the image
Use our signature!
You can also use the Update My Moto signature, to help us spread the word on XDA Developers and other forums! You just have to copy and paste the code bellow:
[URL ="http://www.updatemymoto.com/"][ CENTER][ IMG]http://ubuntucdn.ubuntubrsc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/updatemymoto.jpg[ /IMG][ /CENTER][ /URL]
Just take the spaces out. It looks nice, don't worry
In the wild
What blogs and websites wrote about this campaign so far?
Ubuntu-BR-SC: Insatisfeitos com a Motorola, usuários criam a campanha "Update My Moto";
Diário do Android: Motorola confirma o que já se sabia: o Atrix não receberá o Android 4.0 oficialmente;
Android Authority: Google, Motorola urged to leak Ice Cream Sandwich / Jelly Bean internal ROMs for Atrix 4G, Photon;
BR-Linux: usuários iniciam campanha para que Motorola mantenha compromisso de atualização do Android;
Talk Android: Developer starts ‘Update My Moto!’ campaign in effort to obtain Tegra 2 ICS drivers for Atrix 4G and Photon 4G;
Android Spin: Update My Moto!!!;
Android TV: Verärgerte Motorola-Kunden starten Online-Petition für Quellcode-Freigabe;
Geek On: Walka o Atrixa jeszcze nie została zakończona;
Android Headlines: Update my Moto! Google, and Motorola urged to “leak” internal ICS/Jelly Bean ROMs;
MIUI ROM: On they Facebook page;
Epinter's CM10 website;
Atrix Forums: Update My Moto - A Social Campaign to Bring us ICS;
Phandroid: Apple vs Samsung Jury Foreman Speaks Out, Moto RAZR i Smokes RAZR M In Battery Life, and More;
CNET: Android users outraged over Motorola's broken promise;
Gemind: Gemcast #049.
Help us to get it in the wild
You can help us to get the campaign in the wild. Do you know someone with a large followers count at Twitter? Ask him to RT the campaign! A friend of yours is a writer at a big website? Ask him to cover the campaign! You have 2 minutes free? Send a e-mail to big websites, asking them to talk about the campaign!
Gizmodo: tipbox [at] gizmodo [dot] com
Gizmodo Brasil: http://www.gizmodo.com.br/mande-sua-dica/
Techcrunch: tips [at] techcrunch [dot] com
The Next Web: http://thenextweb.com/tips/
OMG! Ubuntu!: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tip/
Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/contact/
Android and Me: http://androidandme.com/contact/
Campaign Partners
You should also take a look at the Support My Moto campaign. While we are focusing on a viral and social approach, they are going for a BBB one, that could work as well.
Take a look there. Won't hurt you to file a complaint and i promise it will only take you about 2 minutes of your day
Contact details
You can reach me at this e-mail: julianfernandes AT ubuntu DOT com
You can also find me on Twitter and at our Ubuntu LoCo Team's blog, Ubuntu-BR-SC.
Thanks and credits
I wanna thank TheOnePom for paying for our domain name, the great guys at RamNode for offering us this great VPS for such a low price, Fishmoose for the campaign's name and, off course, everyone who gave suggestions, ideas and helped me out on the original thread!
Time to kick some Moto butt!
FYI, the site is still not up.
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It's up!
upndwn4par said:
Time to kick some Moto butt!
FYI, the site is still not up.
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It's up here. DNS probably did not propagate on your place yet :/
Hey guys! First news about us:
(in portuguese)
http://diariodoandroid.com.br/fabricantes/motorola/motorola-confirma-o-que-ja-se-sabia-o-atrix-nao-recebera-o-android-4-0-oficialmente/29214/
I like the website. Looks really nice. I do think its lacking information.
Rhadamg said:
Hey guys! First news about us:
(in portuguese)
http://diariodoandroid.com.br/fabricantes/motorola/motorola-confirma-o-que-ja-se-sabia-o-atrix-nao-recebera-o-android-4-0-oficialmente/29214/
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Awesome!
djluis48 said:
I like the website. Looks really nice. I do think its lacking information.
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Me and Loki are talking about this. While his campaign will focus on BBB, more phones and more info, this one will focus on viral action. We will partner up
julian_fern said:
Me and Loki are talking about this. While his campaign will focus on BBB, more phones and more info, this one will focus on viral action. We will partner up
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Glad to hear this. Unity is something that will give us great strength, but if don't work together, the efforts will be in vain.
UPDATE
Added some websites to the list
If you are a website owner and want to write about the campaign (or already did), let me know please
Made more news!
http://www.androidauthority.com/goo...ly-bean-internal-roms-atrix-4g-photon-120089/
I also tweeted/shared the article/this thread!
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Deggy said:
Made more news!
http://www.androidauthority.com/goo...ly-bean-internal-roms-atrix-4g-photon-120089/
I also tweeted/shared the article/this thread!
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for sharing! Article added to the thread
Added partnership banner that links to the Update My Moto site on the Support My Moto site.
Lokifish Marz said:
Added partnership banner that links to the Update My Moto site on the Support My Moto site.
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Thanks Loki
Gonna do it tomorrow too, since i'm leaving with my gf now.
Thank you "Android Authority"
Made a banner if you want to use. The least Motorola could do is give us what they started, it's not like they're going to finish anyways.
QBKing77 will be covering this issue and have a video up tomorrow. Between Update My Moto's social sharing and Support My Moto's backing we may pull this off or at least put a serious red mark in Moto's profits.
Good job. A few suggestions:
1. I'm not sure you want to ask for a "leak." We want a release, even if it's incomplete.
2. The kernel alone does no good. We need the HALs.
3. There are some grammatical errors.
Suggested rewording:
In February 2012, Motorola announced that the Atrix 4G and Photon 4G would receive upgrades to Ice Cream Sandwich. In September, they cancelled the upgrade, leaving us with an outdated version of Android. Many of us purchased our phones in anticipation of the upgrade. Many are locked into long-term carrier contracts which prevent us from upgrading our phones.
With this campaign, we are asking that Motorola release an upgrade or whatever work has already been completed on it. Even with an incomplete release, we may be able to develop a working version ourselves.
You can help us to achieve that. Share this campaign on your blog or social network, show it to your friends, or file a Better Business Bureau complaint. Let's grab Motorola's attention!
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Found another one!
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/10...rged-to-leak-internal-icsjelly-bean-roms.html
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MIUI is helping us!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=422685204457727
clockworkninja said:
MIUI is helping us!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=422685204457727
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Let's keep in going
There needs to be a YouTube video on that main page with a good background info on the story and negative rant against Motorola and Google for their part. Not only will it make the website more "alive" with actual human depth, but the video can also be seen on YouTube and shared. Who knows, maybe it will lead to more people posting videos and voicing their opinions. The negative publicity might force Motorola to take action.
Just got this email tonight from Survey Monkey on behalf of [email protected]........
Hi,
Thanks for joining the Motorola Feedback Network. We are inviting owners of the Motorola ATRIX 4G on AT&T to participate in an early preview of a new software release, and provide feedback. If you are not currently using a Motorola ATRIX 4G on AT&T, please excuse and ignore this email.
Click this link -- https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=_2bcVzjXxNKrtY7e3Yfo0gHA_3d_3d -- to take the enrollment survey if you wish to take part. Note that you must be a member in good standing of the Motorola Owners' Forums to be included. The registration window could close without notice so please respond as quickly as possible.
This is a confidential test under the terms of the Motorola Feedback Network. Do not post any details or information about this on any public sites.
Thanks -- please understand that start times are always fluid. We ask for your patience if you register but don't hear from us right away.
Matt
Motorola Owners’ Forums
Motorola Feedback Network
Looks like a scam, then when you click the link, it wants your Full name, username on the forum, and your IMEI # of your cell phone.
SCAM?????
There is already a thread with this same topic. Closing....
Just got this in my email. Not sure what to make of it besides a look into what they can do. Haven't followed the link yet, but I will post update after I run through the link.
Hi.
We are considering some Motorola Feedback Network projects and want to make sure we have enough candidates to complete them. Would you mind taking just a couple of minutes to complete this very short survey? It will help ensure that we have your latest information, and that you are still interested in MFN activities.
It will only take a couple of minutes -- please click this link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=chGUY0Y3MOKq4yw5z1XYBw_3d_3d
Thanks,
- Matt
Motorola Owners' Forums
Motorola Feedback Network
To unsubscribe from the Motorola Feedback Network, visit your profile on the new Motorola Feedback Network site and click the link titled "Update Contact Information / Motorola Feedback Network Participation Preference." Click "No" under "Motorola Feedback Network" to unsubscribe.
To avoid any additional surveymonkey invitations – and MFN registration invitations -- click this link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/optout.aspx?sm=chGUY0Y3MOKq4yw5z1XYBw_3d_3d
Update
It was just a quick survey to see who the member was, what device/carrier they had. If any projects match what they are looking at, they will be in contact.
palmbeach05 said:
Just got this in my email. Not sure what to make of it besides a look into what they can do. Haven't followed the link yet, but I will post update after I run through the link.
Hi.
We are considering some Motorola Feedback Network projects and want to make sure we have enough candidates to complete them. Would you mind taking just a couple of minutes to complete this very short survey? It will help ensure that we have your latest information, and that you are still interested in MFN activities.
It will only take a couple of minutes -- please click this link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=chGUY0Y3MOKq4yw5z1XYBw_3d_3d
Thanks,
- Matt
Motorola Owners' Forums
Motorola Feedback Network
To unsubscribe from the Motorola Feedback Network, visit your profile on the new Motorola Feedback Network site and click the link titled "Update Contact Information / Motorola Feedback Network Participation Preference." Click "No" under "Motorola Feedback Network" to unsubscribe.
To avoid any additional surveymonkey invitations – and MFN registration invitations -- click this link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/optout.aspx?sm=chGUY0Y3MOKq4yw5z1XYBw_3d_3d
Update
It was just a quick survey to see who the member was, what device/carrier they had. If any projects match what they are looking at, they will be in contact.
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Probably for Moto X and any upcoming new phones.
Any pre Moto X phones are dead to Moto.