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AT&T buys Tmobile

AT&T buys t mobile, and promises LTE roll out to 95% percent of Americans. The purchase will relieve stress on AT&T's towers, and allow faster data speeds, and better voice quality.
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Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/

interesting but i kinda saw it coming, only this would make sense
it was either sprint or ATT ... and sprint doesnt like GSM
i wonder how is that going to improve reception on our atrix since we are on 850 / 1900 / 2100 band .....
or maybe by the time the merger is done i'll buy a new cellphone already

All hail the ATT tyrant!

BOOOOOOO I say. I hate AT&T and all their IPhone loving zombie customers. My 12 year old T-Mobile account (formally voicestream before the name change) will be cancelled the hour the acquisition goes through. AT&T will not see one red cent of my money.

I dont mind it... Tmobile is spottiest of all carriers around here, so should only make both of them better...
However, how will it work w/ the 3G/4G? They are different bands, hence why jailbroken and unlocked iphones never had access to Tmo's 3G, just edge. Does our phone support their bands as well?

erick161 said:
I dont mind it... Tmobile is spottiest of all carriers around here, so should only make both of them better...
However, how will it work w/ the 3G/4G? They are different bands, hence why jailbroken and unlocked iphones never had access to Tmo's 3G, just edge. Does our phone support their bands as well?
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The bands may stay the same what is it 950 and 850 so I can finally get a hd2 and get att. 3 G
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The bands may stay the same what is it 950 and 850 so I can finally get a hd2 and get att. 3 G
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It doesn't work that way. They will be using T-Mo's backhaul only towards LTE deployment and maybe in support of the H+. So any current phones will not be affected by this in any way, meaning you will not be able to pick up a T-Mo Nexus S and use it on AT&T 3g, nor will you be able to use an Atrix on T-Mo "4G".

I live in eastern PA. My wife uses Tmobile and I have ATT. We both use the Captivate (hers is unlocked). In the year or so we have been with each carrier I have dropped about 2 calls to her 20-30. Since she has been with the captivate it has been a little better because of the better phone/modem but Tmobile has been spotty for a loooong time with little improvement over the years. This should work out well for both ATT and Tmobile customers. Tmobile customers may have to pay ATT/Verizon like prices sooner or later but the trade-off for the way better coverage should be worth it. Sprint & Verizon to merge next? Sprint is clearly the weakest of the bunch now by a longshot.

erktheerk said:
BOOOOOOO I say. I hate AT&T and all their IPhone loving zombie customers. My 12 year old T-Mobile account (formally voicestream before the name change) will be cancelled the hour the acquisition goes through. AT&T will not see one red cent of my money.
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I COMPLETELY agree with you; you could not have stated it better. I am very aggravated with this whole deal

(OFFICAL THREAD) At&t and T-Mobile merges, what's your thought on this?

According to a very well known site to me www.tmonews.com, the site states that At&t and T-Mobile agreed to join forces and will soon be working together. So what does this mean for us streak users? Feel free to post your thoughts and opinions in this thread.

hate it
this made me feel sick in the stomach,when i first read it at dslreports,this is not good for competion or pricing.
im with att,but used to be with tmo...and its customer service/pricing/data usage... blew att out of the water ....now hearing this sucks
im only with att,cause im on a second family line
looks like there will be only one gsm network,and vz will probally buy sprint,so we will have one cdma/lte
so we will have att vs verizon for all us mobile carriers.....maybe

It going to suck for t-moble. There was an article saying that t-monble hads the best customer service an att was the worst.

mokokawi said:
this made me feel sick in the stomach,when i first read it at dslreports,this is not good for competion or pricing.
im with att,but used to be with tmo...and its customer service/pricing/data usage... blew att out of the water ....now hearing this sucks
im only with att,cause im on a second family line
looks like there will be only one gsm network,and vz will probally buy sprint,so we will have one cdma/lte
so we will have att vs verizon for all us mobile carriers.....maybe
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I can somewhat relate. I was with tmo for the past 7 years and I made the switch to at&t only a month ago because I wanted the streak. I agree that tmo had amazing customer support and their plans were pretty good as well, and to see both company's joining forces is not a bad thing in my eyes. I only hope that at&t will take in some of t-mobiles plans and offer it to us. To have the ability of 5GB data cap wouldn't be that bad and to not have to pay $10 bucks for an extra gig would be even better.

This is bad. It will allow carriers to do horrible things to their customers like no unlimited data. BAD BAD BAD.

I personally have been trying to convince the wife to change to AT&T or Verizon so welcome this change.
I'm tired of having to get unlocked AT&T phones due to T-Mobiles crap phone selections.

Its like in Canada you either got bell or rogers ...and they both wanna rape you so either way if you got a phone ...you getting. Raped
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It's good IMO. T-Mobile wanted to be bought, it was going to happen eventually. Instead of being purchased by Sprint and having to be converted to CDMA, they'll be purchased by ATT and will insist in increasing network density for 3G and LTE.
It does leave a possible void in the discount arena, but Sprint and MetroPCS can fill that. T-Mobile lost 400K subscribers last quarter, something had to happen.
I wouldn't mind seeing Sprint gobble up Metro (like techs in cdma) and giving us 3 solid choices. Having spotty service carriers like T-Mobile helps no one.
I did read that in the short term ATT and TMobile towers would go dual mode so each group of customers would get better service. So, right from the start that's a positive.
I'm going to be mad if ATT treats this as anything more then a means to resolve there density issues.

Do not like. I am on att because its way cheaper to pay my parents to be on their plan than to have my own. I figured once I start making more money I would switch to tmobile because they have good phones and impose less carrier restrictions. Now they are joining att who (would like) to rule their plans like tyrants. Now I dont know what I'm going to do.

That's a shame....Springfield Missouri had a HUGE T-Mobile customer support center open up a couple years ago. Must be 2-300 people working there.
You can bet the death star will can that, and off shore it somewhere else.
Also, bad for t-mobile users, and wireless users in general, because, you can
bet Verizon will be right up to gobble up Sprint (t-mobile +at&t +gsm...Verizon + sprint + cdma). Then there will only be two wireless providers in the USA.
Of course, we all know, that they won't get together to screw the end users LOL.
It's funny, we (USA) spent a lot of money in an anti-trust case in the early 80's
to break up "ma-bell", because they were a monopoly, and some 30 years later, they have just about put themselves back together again.

I surely have a bad feeling about this..
I am a TMo user and been there with them since the day i came to US(Almost 8+ years).
Even though I can only use Streak with EDGE speed with TMo, I am okay with it.
But once the network merge is complete, would that mean that with TMo simcard in Streak, I now will have 3G speed?
I wonder!

this is actually a good thing. att said this pushes their network 5 years in development, and they will have 60mbit 4g lte coverage to 95% of americans. users on both networks will have access to all 3g gsm bands. and with the new capacity load capabilities, att can lower their prices to compete more with verizon. i actually do see verizon buying sprint too.
i was thinking of was actually thinking of selling my streak and buying a samsung infuse 4g. its a faster phone with an almost as large but higher quality screen and better cameras and is a "4g" phone but its hspa+ not lte and with this announcement, im going to wait till later this year when the lte phones come out.

For me it's a GOOD THING!
I'm 99% about THE PHONES. If this merger opens up the TMOus 3G/4G bands to ATT users, then the more progressive/higher end TMO european phones would become available here sooner. That's a great thing imo.

hmm
i think people need to look at this from a business point of view . If At&T does end up buying Tmobile this will be bad for the customer, because that is one less company At&T has to fight a price war with and being that att and Tmobile are the only GSM networks out there that makes them the only player in the GSM arena .
everyone needs to remember the more options out there the better that will keep each company in check and fight for every customer out there with better prices and plans .
some will say will it will make my signal better and make the network faster and make things happen alot faster as far as 4g becoming the stranded thing . i for one dont care about speed if i am going to end up paying like crazy for KB's of data att is starting to nickel and dime the customer and this is coming from an att customer

p51d007 said:
That's a shame....Springfield Missouri had a HUGE T-Mobile customer support center open up a couple years ago. Must be 2-300 people working there.
You can bet the death star will can that, and off shore it somewhere else.
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AT&T has several call centers around the bay area so I doubt they will go over seas. It would be unfortunate for the Springfield employees to lose their jobs so hopefully AT&T will just bring them on board. There is no way they could handle that many additional accounts without adding employees.
That said, being a call center person myself job stability is never guaranteed when dealing with tech products. It comes with the territory.

kable said:
I'm tired of having to get unlocked AT&T phones due to T-Mobiles crap phone selections.
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Srsly?
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less competition is bad for everyone. $$$

Found a photo of the borg sphere last night, and photoshopped the rest.
Kind of how I feel about the whole thing.
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Found a photo of the borg sphere last night, and photoshopped the rest.
Kind of how I feel about the whole thing.
lol... Super bump.
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What the hell is this? Ns4g sprint display has odd prl

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I had to get some information sprint store, so after I got it I started playing with phones. I ran an online speed test with an evo versus my nexus. With 4 g the htc handed me my ass.
My prl is 60679, you can see in the picture what the other phone is. the nexus on display has the same 1 also. I have grj06 and the display has 22. To make matters worse, side by side, the display gets 10db more signal than I do. Man I'm pissed! Does anyone have an answer for this?

Lots have this prl. I think its people with corporate discounts. It roams 3g unlike yours
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Or something else I was thinking, it could be if the phone is ever stolen, that the tower nearest the store is the only one it will work on. Next time I go to a different sprint store, I should check the phone and see if it is the same number

I've had PRL 01115 since 4/21/11 on my phone. Try Speakeasy speedtest you'll be a lot happier with the results!

I have the same PRL. So what does this mean?

I have never seen 01115 on any smartphone I've had. You on sprint? What part of the country are you? I'm s.e. The mysterious and allusive prl. Funny I've never read about that one in the evo section and there's lots of activity there.

I'm on Sprint in the Minneapolis area.

This prl is not entirely new although it is the most current, along with 60679. While on 60677, some got 01115 and others got 60678. From what i have heard, 01115 connects to 3g while roaming. 606** series does not
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Yes 01115 is for those of you who have corporate discounts.

So what does this mean for my connectivity other than that my phone will connect to 3g while roaming?

herbthehammer said:
I have never seen 01115 on any smartphone I've had. You on sprint? What part of the country are you? I'm s.e. The mysterious and allusive prl. Funny I've never read about that one in the evo section and there's lots of activity there.
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Details on Sprint PRL's 60678 and 1115 by darkfire79 04:23 PM 04/29/2011 -- [Reply]
Here are the details copied from the XDA forum. hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056648
Here is the lehman terms about the PRL's. People who are on individual accounts will be receiving PRL 60678. It will not have 3G Data Roaming enabled.
Business and corperate accounts will be receiving custom PRL 1115, which does enable 3G Data Roaming in the six states listed below.
For all the details please read the attached files. You didn't get these from me
National & Custom PRLs Available for FL, MI, OH, WVA, & WI
Sprint has released Custom PRL 1115 and National PRL ending xxx78 that will impact subscribers who roam in these states.
Custom EVDO PRL 1115 – Provides Business IL and CL subscribers with continued 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming services.
Consumer accounts in these states will experience a loss of 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming services. Refer to PRL Newsflash (xxx78).
Delivery of this Custom PRL is dependent on eligible Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) Phones/PDAs and Mobile Broadband devices.
Devices not eligible to receive the Custom PRL will receive the National PRL and won’t have 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming in these areas.
National PRLs (10078/50578, 20278/60678 and 60778) - Removes 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming coverage for all consumer accounts with push capable phones/PDAs and Mobile Broadband devices.
This coverage was previously enabled with PRL xxx77 and is now being removed since it didn’t provide the expected on-network capacity relief.
In an effort to strike the right balance between customer experience and roaming cost of service, the 3G roaming coverage will no longer be available for consumers but available to Business customers via Custom PRL 1115.
Consumers receiving these National PRLs will still have 1xRTT data roaming service available in the impacted states.
Sprint will begin proactively pushing the PRL to subscribers with in these locations first, then to the entire base. Subscribers with Mobile Broadband devices have to accept the PRL update prompt via SMARTview to receive this release.

Hmm interesting, I have the 01115 and I'm on a family plan.

switched from Evo to Nexus S 4G, had 1115 on my evo and originally had 60xxx number on my nexus s 4g, just checked and I'm on 1115...I have a corporate discount

Hmm, learn something new

My mother has a Samsung Transform and we're on the same plan. She has a 60xxx PRL. Did I just debunk the corporate discount idea?

Straight Talk Quality

This is more of a question about user experience. I have had some people tell me that it is a great service alternative for anyone using an unlocked cell phone, like the gsm gnex, but I have also heard a few horror stories.
One would be a friend got double charged for one month, was refused a refund, and had terrible signal quality anywhere he went. (he used an att compatible sim and he was living in the northern area of florida.)
Any one out there have similar experience in poor customer service and signal ability/quality? My plan is to cut off my contract, buy a gsm nexus and go forward with straight talk.

I was on AT&T Straight Talk and hated it. The signal was poor and data speeds are slow. If you use even a little bit of data, Straight Talk will throttle you. The max speed I would get at times is 2mbps and sometimes even as low as 800 kbps, which is ridiculous considering it's supposed to be 4G. Thus, I immediately switch out and back to T-mobile.
I've heard that T-mobile Straight Talk is much better, that people got speeds of up to 8-10 mbps, much better than AT&T's anyways >.>

vx117 said:
I was on AT&T Straight Talk and hated it. The signal was poor and data speeds are slow. If you use even a little bit of data, Straight Talk will throttle you. The max speed I would get at times is 2mbps and sometimes even as low as 800 kbps, which is ridiculous considering it's supposed to be 4G. Thus, I immediately switch out and back to T-mobile.
I've heard that T-mobile Straight Talk is much better, that people got speeds of up to 8-10 mbps, much better than AT&T's anyways >.>
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I've heard stuff like that but my usage on data per month is <1.5gb if that. I mainly use it for browsing, facebook, and app downloads. Now in my area I only have the option to get the AT&T sim package. I'm planning on buying a GSM GNex and trying it out for a month. The worst that could happen is that I have an att compatible 3G+ phone and I can turn around and sell that easy if I stick with verizon.
I guess what I worry most about is call quality, signal strength, and the ability to quick access my favorite websites. If I can get that reliably from straight talk I'll switch. Does anyone think those are too high of requirements?

bukithd said:
I've heard stuff like that but my usage on data per month is <1.5gb if that. I mainly use it for browsing, facebook, and app downloads. Now in my area I only have the option to get the AT&T sim package. I'm planning on buying a GSM GNex and trying it out for a month. The worst that could happen is that I have an att compatible 3G+ phone and I can turn around and sell that easy if I stick with verizon.
I guess what I worry most about is call quality, signal strength, and the ability to quick access my favorite websites. If I can get that reliably from straight talk I'll switch. Does anyone think those are too high of requirements?
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What about T-Mobile? The $30 plan does pretty good and it's only 10 cents a minute after the first 100.

MrObvious said:
What about T-Mobile? The $30 plan does pretty good and it's only 10 cents a minute after the first 100.
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I don't have T-mobile in my area. No signal coverage really at all. All that I could possibly get is 2g (edge) at best.

vx117 said:
I was on AT&T Straight Talk and hated it. The signal was poor and data speeds are slow. If you use even a little bit of data, Straight Talk will throttle you. The max speed I would get at times is 2mbps and sometimes even as low as 800 kbps, which is ridiculous considering it's supposed to be 4G. Thus, I immediately switch out and back to T-mobile.
I've heard that T-mobile Straight Talk is much better, that people got speeds of up to 8-10 mbps, much better than AT&T's anyways >.>
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I had the AT&T sim and you're right on both counts. With the AT&T sim I could barely get 800 kbps. I switched to the T-Mo sim and I've never been below 1700 kbps. BTW, it's not 4G, it's HSPA (3.5G).

fatclue said:
I had the AT&T sim and you're right on both counts. With the AT&T sim I could barely get 800 kbps. I switched to the T-Mo sim and I've never been below 1700 kbps. BTW, it's not 4G, it's HSPA (3.5G).
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That makes me sad. Do you know of any other gsm att 3g alternatives? I am sick of paying $130 a month for 2 lines.

It really depends on where you are. Here's mine from NYC with the AT&T SIM. Also I chose the AT&T SIM because most international phones use AT&T frequencies and also because here in NYC T-Mobile only gets EDGE in a lot of places, including my campus. I work near Radio City Hall/Central Park West and yes data speeds suffer, all the way down to 300-600 kbps, but that's forgivable given the amount of people on the network. My entire building uses AT&T. But again, it depends where YOU live. AT&T tends to have better coverage in most places (they're like Verizon but GSM), while T-Mobile has faster speeds but far less coverage:
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Me -- unlocked galaxy nexus on the 30 dollar t-mobile plan, my speeds in my town at work are great.. at my house in the sticks no signal in my house, but cant complain, bout the price,,
wife ( iphone 4 ) oldest daughter ( atrix 4g ) both on straight talk.. and both rock but att coverage is perfect down here so that makes sense,,
Its all bout location,,, but its better than paying out the rear on post paid contracts lol

T-Mobile Speed Test (unlimited International data roaming)

So I haven't seen a thread about this yet. Just want to start a thread to keep some interesting data of speeds when using your free unlimited International data roaming.
I'll start with the first screenshot of my speedtest in Taipei, Taiwan. Roaming was fine and as soon as we landed, the text came welcoming us to Taipei on T-Mobile roaming.
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So far I've been able to make a clear voip call through an messenger app called LINE.

twe90kid said:
So I haven't seen a thread about this yet. Just want to start a thread to keep some interesting data of speeds when using your free unlimited International data roaming.
I'll start with the first screenshot of my speedtest in Taipei, Taiwan. Roaming was fine and as soon as we landed, the text came welcoming us to Taipei on T-Mobile roaming.
So far I've been able to make a clear voip call through an messenger app called LINE.
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Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!

0ri0n said:
Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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that is actually a bit better than sprint's national average speeds

0ri0n said:
Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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that is actually a bit better than sprint's national average speeds
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LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.

twe90kid said:
LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
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same thing here, I was with sprint for over 10 years, I got fed up with the fake promises of this amazing 4g network they are building etc.
They finally got 4g here in Tucson, but they having problems with some spectrum that penetrates through buildings because of how close the border to mexico is, so we have half way decent 4g outdoors but no signal at all indoors.
And they are saying they will not be allowed to use that where I live for years to come, so its pretty worthless to be on sprint.

Here is my speedtest in Cusco, Peru. So far I done about 1.5gb of roaming on the free data.

NOVA speed for reference

twe90kid said:
LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
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neonsector said:
same thing here, I was with sprint for over 10 years, I got fed up with the fake promises of this amazing 4g network they are building etc.
They finally got 4g here in Tucson, but they having problems with some spectrum that penetrates through buildings because of how close the border to mexico is, so we have half way decent 4g outdoors but no signal at all indoors.
And they are saying they will not be allowed to use that where I live for years to come, so its pretty worthless to be on sprint.
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Same story here! Switched to T-Mobile here in DC Metro area after not being able to connect to 4G inside the buildings on the lower floors. Also, no 4G inside my condo on the 3rd floor. It was just so incredibly annoying. The only thing I miss is a more reliable connection inside metro stations.

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NOVA? Where is this?
I wonder why your unrestricted and gettin full LTE.

This is what I get in the middle of DC, kinda weird.

KEHT said:
This is what I get in the middle of DC, kinda weird.
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Please read the thread. We're sharing data info for overseas. This is for "unlimited international data".

This thread is pointless. You can connect to whatever network is available (3G, 4G... maybe even LTE) but it WILL cap your speeds to what you're seeing unless you pay for high speed data passes.

This is the same speed I got in Malaysia and Singapore. Its good for email and Whatsapp and GPS. Not good for youtube. Its better than nothing! Long live T-mobile and thank you!