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Since a few test revisions ago I've been checking logcat to see what's going on in the background and to try and optimize battery life by checking out what's turning on/off while on standby.
Earlier in the testing phase (t2?), I noticed that Latitude would update very slowly if ever, and I was hoping it'd be fixed at some point. As I flashed each newer test revision i'd run logcat and see what's going on, and at some point everything was working well. The NetworkLocationProvider service would come on sparingly, but enough that it would make Latitude useful. Now that i've flashed to the stable rev, I ran logcat again to try and figure out why my battery life had seemingly gotten worse only to see the NetworkLocationProvider server running with a much higher frequency then before, running once every 5 minutes or so.
By disabling Latitude, this stops happening so i'm relatively sure it's not any other application I have installed. I tried entirely removing maps and reinstalling it, i've tried running fix_permissions, i'm just confused as to why the update frequency is so erratic between image revisions and if there was anyway to adjust it.
please post this into cyanogen issue tracker
yeh i dont like having alot of stuff on my phone even though they have introduced apps2sd.... i mean ive only got like 5 3rd party apps and system apps. i usually can squeeze somewhere around 12hrs on a full charge from it dying to 0% if anyone has a better battery life on a overclocked rom higher then 570mhz, let me know
bosna110 said:
yeh i dont like having alot of stuff on my phone even though they have introduced apps2sd.... i mean ive only got like 5 3rd party apps and system apps. i usually can squeeze somewhere around 12hrs on a full charge from it dying to 0% if anyone has a better battery life on a overclocked rom higher then 570mhz, let me know
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who likes to squeeze battery life out of their phone?
htcclay's superfast 1.3.3 is teh best for battery life, hands down. (speed too :0)
Reading this thread on my G1 resulted in lower battery life
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I've noticed that with JIT enabled, I have 10x a better battery life than without JIT.
Life without JIT: 7 hours
Life with JIT: 12 hours
smackdown85146 said:
I've noticed that with JIT enabled, I have 10x a better battery life than without JIT.
Life without JIT: 7 hours
Life with JIT: 12 hours
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This must be that "New Math" I hear everyone talking about...
7x10 =12?
nice math dude.....
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I posted this on another forum... and got some positive feedback.
The update just miraculously increased my battery life tenfold!
I am 7 hours 12 minutes in and I am at 80% (using the battery indicator provided in settings, not by battery widget). I unrooted to install the update (yet it feels like I still have Herver's ROM). Brightness at 50%.
I didn't use the phone that much today (I had class), but I used it inbetween breaks and whatnot. I guess pretty light usage.
I think the update messed with the radio/wifi performance.
What about you guys?
Edit: I know people have gotten 20+ hours with ROMS, but this is without one.
Hopefully ROMS increase the battery life even more.
patelkedar91 said:
I posted this on another forum... and got some positive feedback.
The update just miraculously increased my battery life tenfold!
I am 7 hours 12 minutes in and I am at 80% (using the battery indicator provided in settings, not by battery widget). I unrooted to install the update (yet it feels like I still have Herver's ROM). Brightness at 50%.
I didn't use the phone that much today (I had class), but I used it inbetween breaks and whatnot. I guess pretty light usage.
I think the update messed with the radio/wifi performance.
What about you guys?
Edit: I know people have gotten 20+ hours with ROMS, but this is without one.
Hopefully ROMS increase the battery life even more.
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Hi patelkedar,
I can't speak for everyone, but according to myself and other users that have responded to my post battery life improvement has been absolutely astounding as of this update.
Blah. Sorry for double thread.
Search didn't go so well I guess.
Anyway, seems like everyone has seen major improvement.
Totally agree. My battery life has improved vastly. I came from fresh 0.3 and EvolutionX. I had excellent battery life with both of those roms too. But I unrooted to give htc a shot at stock again and I am happy. Phone has been off charger since 7:30am and it's now 3:05pm, with moderate usage and on wifi i'm at 78%. I don't know what I would do without my EVO. I love this damn device.
My battery life is phenomenal with the stock update. I was one of the ones who took the plunge and lost the ability to root for the time being but its performing so well I really don't care. They made everything run better and the battery was just a bonus.
unevoked not working after 1.4xxx update
I uninstalled the superpermissions and unrevoked before updating. now it will not root obviously. tried to install setcpu and various other programs but will not work. this sucks.. i see no difference in battery life or speed....a lot of people think an update is a good thing sometimes, but it is not. HTC should just release froyo 2.2
Pretty much if you have alot of Facebook friends the battery life savings will be huge with this update, also if you use a Flickr account battery savings will be huge, it seems they fixed the issue with Flickr causing 100% awake time as well but didn't mention it...crossing my fingers anyway, so far haven't run into the issue after resetting up my Flickr Account.
P.S. The update seems very much worth losing root for now as it seems to have fixed many things not metnioned and some functions are way faster now, going to manage applications loads in 2-3 seconds now versus 10-20 before etc... There seem to be alot of fixes not mentioned.
You guys mind posting your settings?
I'm at 9 hours and 40 minutes with exactly 50% battery remaining, but I haven't been using the phone like crazy. Some light web use and decent amount of texting all throughout the day. This is not an improvement from the pre-update era. Pretty much the same
jpimpballa said:
I uninstalled the superpermissions and unrevoked before updating. now it will not root obviously. tried to install setcpu and various other programs but will not work. this sucks.. i see no difference in battery life or speed....a lot of people think an update is a good thing sometimes, but it is not. HTC should just release froyo 2.2
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HTC has released it already. It's Sprint now that has to smooth it over and make sure that it is compatible with their stock applications before releasing it to the masses.
akarol said:
HTC has released it already. It's Sprint now that has to smooth it over and make sure that it is compatible with their stock applications before releasing it to the masses.
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Correction: Google has released it already. HTC + Sprint need to smooth it over and make sure that it is compatible with their stock applications before releasing it to the masses.
Phone also all around seems smoother in the sense UI especially. I'm enjoying my EVO again and actually using it as a cell phone now instead of a super-rapid-fire-rom-flashing addiction-device. Sometimes I forget that my cell phone is a cell phone and not a netbook (yet) lol. Cheers to HTC for the update!
LearnIIBurn said:
Phone also all around seems smoother in the sense UI especially. I'm enjoying my EVO again and actually using it as a cell phone now instead of a super-rapid-fire-rom-flashing addiction-device. Sometimes I forget that my cell phone is a cell phone and not a netbook (yet) lol. Cheers to HTC for the update!
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Ditto. I don't miss the custom ROMs, honestly. I haven't had a single FC since this ROM launched and the device feels much smoother and faster.
Hi guys,
my first post here, but i spent a lot of time on this forum in the last days stealing information here and there so i would to thank you all for your incredible effort on get this phone better. Now i think it's time to share my thoughts about this smartphone, and ask for some doubts i have.
- Display: the size is awesome, but honestly i found it too much saturated, is there any way to change color saturation? Plus the reading is not that good... the characters, expecially without zoom, look too fuzzy. I have to admit that, imho, readability was better on my old iphone 3g. Someone feels like that? For multimedia, however, this screen is awesome.
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
here are my phone details:
Firmware version JM5
Baseband XXJM3
Oneclick Lagfix applied
Sorry for the huge amount of questions, i heavy used the search engine but i haven't found any solution yet.
thanks
The3D said:
Hi guys,
my first post here, but i spent a lot of time on this forum in the last days stealing information here and there so i would to thank you all for your incredible effort on get this phone better. Now i think it's time to share my thoughts about this smartphone, and ask for some doubts i have.
- Display: the size is awesome, but honestly i found it too much saturated, is there any way to change color saturation? Plus the reading is not that good... the characters, expecially without zoom, look too fuzzy. I have to admit that, imho, readability was better on my old iphone 3g. Someone feels like that? For multimedia, however, this screen is awesome.
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
here are my phone details:
Firmware version JM5
Baseband XXJM3
Oneclick Lagfix applied
Sorry for the huge amount of questions, i heavy used the search engine but i haven't found any solution yet.
thanks
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1. There is an app in the dev section to reduce text size, go check it out
2. That's odd, no lag in my end and i've applied One Click lagfix 1.5 .apk, i'm using SamSet's 1.9f ROM though.
3. At the moment there is no way to get rid of the TouchWiz UI but devs are working on a clean ROM, a Cyanogen mod ROM which is basically stock Android. Not too sure about the Battery issue, someone else can shed some light on that, but i do get 1-2% drop at night...
4. Eclair 2.1 does not utilize all of the RAM, and Samsung hasn't chosen to either, so we're all waiting for the final release of Froyo in a few weeks and then hopefully that will utilize all of the RAM, or there will be a workaround.
I was going to ask about the fuzzy text myself. It doesn't always seem to be so but a lot of the time the white titles of apps or text in widgets etc. It looks like it is a little out of focus but all images and coloured text appear pin sharp so far. Very odd.
your coming from an iphone 3g and your complaining about battery life and lag? you taking the piss?
and as for the screen, its better than any screen ive ever seen, i lol'ed when my mate put his iphone4 on full brightness and watched the battery go down in minutes, so dont go there with battery life.
try reading the forums and you'll find out that your problems have got a slightly better with more recent firmwares
sorry still ranting, 'fuzzy letters' roflmao!
MAMBO04 said:
1. There is an app in the dev section to reduce text size, go check it out
2. That's odd, no lag in my end and i've applied One Click lagfix 1.5 .apk, i'm using SamSet's 1.9f ROM though.
3. At the moment there is no way to get rid of the TouchWiz UI but devs are working on a clean ROM, a Cyanogen mod ROM which is basically stock Android. Not too sure about the Battery issue, someone else can shed some light on that, but i do get 1-2% drop at night...
4. Eclair 2.1 does not utilize all of the RAM, and Samsung hasn't chosen to either, so we're all waiting for the final release of Froyo in a few weeks and then hopefully that will utilize all of the RAM, or there will be a workaround.
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Actually the reason for limited memory is not Eclair. The amount of memory available is governed by the kernel and the kernel on the Galaxy S supports the full 512MB. However Samsung creates a large ramdisk on /tempfs (160MB) which explains why reported RAM is around 320MB.
As for the fuzzy fonts, this is the result of using PenTile matrix in the display. Just search for PenTile, there are many threads on these and other forums discussing that.
As for the fuzzy fonts, this is the result of using PenTile matrix in the display. Just search for PenTile, there are many threads on these and other forums discussing that.
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Is there a fix ?
Not without changing the entire screen.
After a while you get used to it, it's just jarring coming from a regular LCD screen.
Don't worry about the battery, it just needs to be broken in, be sure to charge it fully then use it till the phone shuts off then charge fully 3 or 4 times when you first get it. It took mine a week or 2 but now I get a couple days of fairly heavy use out of it compared to half a day when I first got it.
Another recommendation I will give is to try not to categorize this with another device. I came from a BlackBerry and as much as I hate to admit it, I had some BlackBerry withdrawal issues LOL
I'm now a happy camper and haven't experienced the lag too much. I did experience too much lag on JM5, downgraded to JM2 and lag is gone except for LauncherPro, so tried going back to TwLauncher, was happy, and now finding that ADw is a very good launcher in itself.
Bottom line for me is that I wish there were more apps with the same caliber as the App Store's, but it does what I need and more.
darkoroje said:
Actually the reason for limited memory is not Eclair. The amount of memory available is governed by the kernel and the kernel on the Galaxy S supports the full 512MB. However Samsung creates a large ramdisk on /tempfs (160MB) which explains why reported RAM is around 320MB.
As for the fuzzy fonts, this is the result of using PenTile matrix in the display. Just search for PenTile, there are many threads on these and other forums discussing that.
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Can anyone in late Eclair version's confirm the tmpfs theory (one way to do it would be to change the settings I guess so that the tmpfs is bigger, 200mb, and see if the ram drops)
Tachikoma_kun said:
Not without changing the entire screen.
After a while you get used to it, it's just jarring coming from a regular LCD screen.
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It would be better with a non serif font that was a little larger. Surely this is possible?
Look at the the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762116in the "Android Development" section for more details.
Nirvana388 said:
Don't worry about the battery, it just needs to be broken in, be sure to charge it fully then use it till the phone shuts off then charge fully 3 or 4 times when you first get it. It took mine a week or 2 but now I get a couple days of fairly heavy use out of it compared to half a day when I first got it.
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I'd bet money this is more than just a breaking in problem. The battery drain doesn't drop by 95% (20%->1%) after a few cycles. (more on this later).
The3D said:
Hi guys,
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% batt synery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
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First, let me ask, do you use a task killer other than the touchwiz task manager? Do you let it run at night? If so, stop, this will cause the 20% drain nearly by itself.
Next, look at the apps that you have installed? How many do you have installed? Maybe some are doing some heavy lifting at night when you are sleeping, this is almost definitely a sync and/or app related issue. Download Spare Parts to get more detailed information on your battery drain.
Here's the issue with the battery. First, the easiest way to fix the problem should be juicedefender and ultimatejuice, but it will cost like 1.99 or 2.99. Then set up sync and maybe 3G to go off at these hours.
Cheaper fix: turn sync off at night (I assume this is running, but actually, it might not be, you might just have random data going out). Also, potentially turn 3G data off at night, this actually prevents me from getting any data and that's what I've seen improve my battery life more than anything. ultimatejuice would make this automatic (I think).
I own both the iPhone 4 and SGS, and i agree that black and white text in the iPhone generally looks sharper and more crisp. I had been using the iPhone for about a week before finally being able to acquire the Galaxy S Vibrant off contract, and i really wasn't used to the display for the first day or two. I was surprised because so many people raved about the Super AMOLED screen, yet my eyes were so used to retina display, i was able to notice the pixels on the Galaxy S screen. After the first two days though i got used to it and it looks great to me now. Actually, i had gotten so used to the customizability, as well as the Menu and Back button, and the bigger screen size, the crisper graphics on the iPhone 4 is easily negated.
Anyways, if there is a way to make text look sharper on the SGS that would make it a perfect device for me.
my battery life last very good compared to other phones
i get around a day and half screen brightness full uses for about 5 hours
wifi turned on the entire time and very heavy use
when you first got the phone did you let it drain completely then charge it completely and repeat a few times or do you just plug it in when ever ?
i had the htc legend before and the battery sucked and as for the screen
im very pleased
my bad about the RAM question, must have got mixed up
The3D said:
- Display: the size is awesome, but honestly i found it too much saturated, is there any way to change color saturation? Plus the reading is not that good... the characters, expecially without zoom, look too fuzzy. I have to admit that, imho, readability was better on my old iphone 3g. Someone feels like that? For multimedia, however, this screen is awesome.
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I've directly compared this screen with the HTC Desire (both AMOLED and SLCD), the HTC HD2 and the iPhone 3G & 4.
For me, its definitely up there, but I kind of agree with you on the text, when zoomed out it's not that great. That said I disagree that the iPhone 3G is better on readability - the SGS definitely is better. It's only not that great when compared with an LCD of an equivalent resolution. The HD2, Desire SLCD and especially iPhone 4 (which is stunningly sharp for text). However, its better than the Desire AMOLED.
For general UI use, I'd put both Desires and the HD2 behind the SGS and iPhone.... on the whole between the SGS and iP4 I'd say it was a draw, with both looking very sharp, clear, and colourful - the SGS is more colourful, and larger, but the iP4 is simply sharper.
For viewing pictures and movies, the SGS is clearly the best, with the best constrast, subjective detail levels and plain looks the most impressive. EVERYONE has commented on how good it looks for this. On the iP4, this is its weakness - its small screen, almost-square aspect ratio and slightly duller colours make it far less impressive looking than any of the others.
I'd rank them as thus:-
=1 - SGS
=1 - iPhone 4
3 - HD2
4 - Desire SLCD
5 - Desire AMOLED
The3D said:
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
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The lags are disappointing IMO. With JM2, and the internal SD fix (cant even remember the name as there are that many fixes now), it was clearly better than stock, however not all animations are smooth, and there is a definite lag at times, seemingly fairly randomly too.
However, I've largely fixed that... some people seem to doubt autokiller, however, I can say it works for me - I set to strict or aggressive for the best results. I don't know why it works, and I can't argue against those that say it makes things worse, on paper at least, but my experience is different, it DEFINITELY helps.
Also, oddly, turning the GUI animations off too has made a significant difference. I still have the Launcher Pro animations (app drawer and pinch home screen view), and the gallery is still animated, but other GUI animations are disabled, and its a lot snappier, and I dont really miss it.
Now the only lag I get is the browser lag as in the link below, but even then Nicolocopus suggests a later firmware may fix it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764070&highlight=browser+lag
The3D said:
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
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Battery - the biggest drain IME is the 3G data connection. Make sure when you're in a place with wifi to leave wifi on over the 3G data connection. Make sure the phone isn't set to send the wifi to sleep (wifi sleep policy IIRC) as the data connection will kick in while the phone is asleep. Other than that, some drain through the course of a day is par for the course.
The other thing is the screen, turning down to minimum brightness is actually more than bright enough for indoor use, and seems to make a difference.
As for Launcherpro / Touchwiz, AFAIK once you set LauncherPro as default and then restart your phone, the home screen portion of Touchwiz (TWLauncher) is no longer running. You wont be able to get rid of TW completely unless a custom Vanilla ROM is made. Not all of it is THAT bad though, really.
The3D said:
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
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Cant comment other than to say, I dont know about this, so many different "opinions" fly around - all I can say is Samsung advertised it as 512mb RAM, so I think they'd be pretty stupid to give you a phone with LESS RAM than advertised - but you never know, I guess.
alovell83 said:
I'd bet money this is more than just a breaking in problem. The battery drain doesn't drop by 95% (20%->1%) after a few cycles. (more on this later).
First, let me ask, do you use a task killer other than the touchwiz task manager? Do you let it run at night? If so, stop, this will cause the 20% drain nearly by itself.
Next, look at the apps that you have installed? How many do you have installed? Maybe some are doing some heavy lifting at night when you are sleeping, this is almost definitely a sync and/or app related issue. Download Spare Parts to get more detailed information on your battery drain.
Here's the issue with the battery. First, the easiest way to fix the problem should be juicedefender and ultimatejuice, but it will cost like 1.99 or 2.99. Then set up sync and maybe 3G to go off at these hours.
Cheaper fix: turn sync off at night (I assume this is running, but actually, it might not be, you might just have random data going out). Also, potentially turn 3G data off at night, this actually prevents me from getting any data and that's what I've seen improve my battery life more than anything. ultimatejuice would make this automatic (I think).
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Aside from all this... "killing all apps and widgets" does nothing to stop the biggest android battery killer, Google sync. Google sync is always running unless you disable it.
If you really want to see how long your phone lasts in stand by, install APNdroid and disable your data connection before you go to sleep. You will have miniscule battery use during the night if you do this.
The3D said:
Hi guys,
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
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I just upgraded to the new official DJG4 firmware and the lag has been reduced alot. It is now no slower in opening apps than my 3GS.
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
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On the old DJF4 firmware, with 3G and sync on, battery drops by 2% per hour on stand-by. With the new JG4 firmware, it is now 2% drop in 2.5 hours. This is much better compared to my iphone 3GS which loses 10-13% over 7 hours on standby with sync on.
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
here are my phone details:
Firmware version JM5
Baseband XXJM3
Oneclick Lagfix applied
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Most software I had report 326Mb total instead of 256Mb. Which variant of sgs phone do you have? I have the galaxy s i9000.
yeah these batteries needs to be drained completely before charging again, else it doesn't hold proper charge
i always push it until the phone turns off (shutdowns completely) itself, then i change the battery pack
i cycle through 3 of them
Bobler420 said:
my battery life last very good compared to other phones
i get around a day and half screen brightness full uses for about 5 hours
wifi turned on the entire time and very heavy use
when you first got the phone did you let it drain completely then charge it completely and repeat a few times or do you just plug it in when ever ?
i had the htc legend before and the battery sucked and as for the screen
im very pleased
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So, this post is 1/2 "rant" and 1/2 "any ideas", but the JI6 Update has been (in my opinion) a very serious letdown.
First of all, I can't be alone in thinking that the late-September update from Samsung would be a full-blown upgrade to Froyo. Obviously it's not. I guess we'll wait awhile before that's released
Secondly, I'm one of those sorry saps that had the update soft-brick my phone. It took me a few days to get around to the ODIN fix (bumping me back to "stock"), but it was still a royal pain.
Thirdly, I've already seen some issues that I didn't have before. For instance, the phone "froze" on me while sitting at home: no screen response. I had to pull the battery and power up again. Nice!
Finally, the battery life is utterly horrible for me -- and I'm not sure why. Currently at 26% battery life (now 8h 4m since unplugged). 34% of the usage is "display", which has been on for 28m total. 22% is cell standby. 15% is phone idle. 10% is voice calls (2m 10s of that). 8% is the Android System. So on and so forth. Basically, I've *hardly* used my phone today, yet the battery isn't going to last thru to the afternoon. I have 6 active applications, with none of them hitting the CPU at all currently. Best of all? The battery icon looks like I'm about 1/2 full, so evidently Samsung couldn't be bothered to make that icon accurate. I know about the battery icon mods out there (I've used 'em), but I figured Samsung would take care of that.
Sorry for the venting, folks. Is anyone else seeing similar stuff? Any ideas on the lame battery life??
Thanks,
Yip
For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !
Better than Windows NT = 1.6
Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.
Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.
The_wolf88 said:
For me Android 2.1 which samsung released in Galaxy S is exactly like Windows Vista ! No matter how many updates you release for it still will make your phone **** !
The only option is to release a full new OS which is Windows 7 = Froyo !
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Ha! You may just be right on that. Eclair seems like a fairly lame version of Android, if you ask me. Not horrible, but not great.
anthonys2r said:
Getting your phone bricked isnt the updates fault, there are hundreds of threads out there and reading just one couldve given you signs of warning.
As for your battery life, I am willing to bet your phone screen is full of widgets. Try limiting those, as well as automated syncing. I get excellent battery life that can EASILY last me the whole day (I actually find myself running avatar/pandora at the end of the night just to drain it so I can recharge the battery).
However, I do agree that the inaccurate battery reading should have been fixed a long time ago (or at least in this update) and that froyo should have been included with the release of this phone.
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"Signs of warning" means nothing, my friend. There are folks who didn't even *root* that got soft-bricked with this update. It was (somehow) poorly handled.
As for your widgets comment, well... you would've lost the bet. I use a single screen, no widgets, no weather stuff, bluetooth off, wifi on (but currently turned off), and nothing extraneous. I run Android about as light & frothy as you can get! I prefer speed over just about everything.
Any other thoughts, though? Perhaps I should re-load Autostarts to see if there's anything strange launching at boot time...
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Your cell standy is too high which means you have things constantly using the cell signal to pull data, thus draining your battery. Right now I'm at 72% with 67% display, 14% voice calls, and 9% cell standby. Been unplugged for 3 and a half hours.
Not great but I'm purposely trying to let it die because I'm reconditioning.
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Interesting. Any ideas what would be pinging the cell standby so much? I'm in a high-bandwidth area (full bars), so it's not like the phone is struggling to get signal. I use Gmail and Exchange, but my Exchange sync is set to "hourly", rather than push.
Doesn't seem like I'd need to disable my 3G connectivity. I certainly have never had to before.
You should probably reflash the update. JI6 was great on my phone, no hiccups, no lag, perfect GPS.
Also, you should recalibrate your battery after the update and give it a few days to settle down. I always get horrible battery life after flashing a rom, but after a few cycles I'm back up to 24h+.
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Honestly, I wouldn't know unless I knew your full setup. What I will say is that I do have a lot of widgets and apps running that pull from the internet but yet my cell standby isn't as high as yours. I haven't reduced any of my sync intervals either. The 3G radio can really drain battery fast, faster than even the screen so that is a problem.
Also, in JI6, they increased the strength of the radio so it drains even more battery. I am running the JI6 modem however.
You should use something like WatchDog to see what is constantly running and using CPU. That could give you an indicator of problem apps.
Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.
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Well, I'm disabling some startup items: Visual Voicemail, Telenav, and Daily Briefing -- none of which I use. Maybe that'll help. I don't know...
I was really trying to run "stock" this time around -- not so much fooling and tinkering with things, but it doesn't appear to be paying off for me. Frustrating.
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Oh wow, yea definitely you need to disable all of those. That's the first thing I do. I actually uninstall Visual Voicemail, Telenav, Amazon MP3 etc. ALL of those things constantly run for some reason even without you opening them once.
You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.
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You're not alone. My battery life is terrible as well after the update. I'm losing 4% an hour on standby.
That said, my phone is smooth and working great when I do use it.
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Amen to that. Except that the GPS is still unreliable.
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I'm having terrible battery life as well.
i'm 24 hours unplugged, sitting at 27%
all stock JI6
Again, if you didn't do so after the update, wipe battery stats and then do a few full drain/charge cycles. My battery life always sucks after flashing a new ROM, but it always goes back to normal given time.
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after the update for me, my gps is much better, but i actually have more lag then i had stock before....
so I need to either flash a kernel, lag fix, or a rom with at least one of those.... its kind of frustrating to have lag just from opening or closing a simple app, messages, or call... I honestly cant believe a phone with these hardware specs can have lag just from somthing as simple going into the dialer and exiting out...
Battery life seems to have decreased a little but still getting a good 20+ hours. GPS is a little better with use wireless networks. Lag is an issue now though. Didn't have much before a the update. Hopefully its solved in another update or froyo.
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So I applied the update on Tuesday through Mini Kies. First experience with this update, it's been great. My phone seems to faster, really I hardly experience any kind of lag or slowdown (and this is in comparison with my stock vibrant running OCLF). Battery life even seems to be better, but that is probably to do with conditioning. So everything has been good except for the fact that my phone has froze on me TWICE today. I'm thinking it's something to do with the apps though. I was in Layar and it was working for a bit when suddenly, it froze, I didn't have to pull the battery I just held the power button down for a good 5-10 seconds and it restarted. The other time was in a game, which kind of concerns me. I suppose I can reinstall both and see how that goes. I'm thinking it has more to do with the apps possibly being corrupted. The first thing I did was install the 2.2 market on my phone and I ran the update all function on like 15 apps that needed updating. Not a good idea imo, the market went crazy and forced closed a couple of times. I'm not entirely sure what is going but it seems like my phone is only freezing in certain apps. I hope it's not just some random freeze that can happen at anytime, that wouldn't be no good.
You guys complaining about battery life... i would Love to have your times. I got 3 hours and 8 minutes today on a fully charged battery.
I've been researching extensively how to improve my battery life on my Android phones and I believe I've found an amazing setup for the Atrix. My phone has been disconnected for 3:15 and I'm at 91% right now with moderate use. It used to burn about 5% an hour before with NO use. Yesterday, it lasted 14 hours and I still had 20% left when I went to bed.
Aura 1.1.3 Debloat #7 ROM
This ROM seems to be the lightest one I've tested. It's only 150 MB and very fast.
SetCPU
I set up a profile to underclock the processor all the way to 216 MHz when the screen is off. The processor is running at 1.1 GHz max. I haven't tested underclocking it to 1 GHz or 900 MHz. I'm sure that would improve the battery life even further and not have a huge impact on performance.
Battery mode (Android settings)
Obviously, it's on maximum battery saver.
General settings
I set the screen timeout to 30 seconds. Maybe 15 seconds is too short for you as it is for me, but that would save some more juice.
Every other battery-killing feature is on, like wifi, GPS and sync. I don't use task killers anymore and found out that my battery life actually improved a lot after I ditched Advanced Task Killer.
I just wanted to share this with the community. I hope it helps you. Any suggestions to improve it even further are very welcome.
Yeah task killers are pretty much useless, watchdog is a wonderful alternative.
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Interesting and thanks for sharing, but...
I can get almost the same results by using any other ROM without SetCPU and just using Max Battery Savings but I'm not interested on that setup because I need to have PUSH email all day.
Maximum Battery Savings makes push emails useless, and for a device that's supposed to be "connected" push mail is a must (at least for me).
Unfortunately, push mail is what kills batteries, specially on 3G/4G.
Cheers!
Rayan
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My phone was maximum battery savings one time for some reason. I didn't do it. But for some reason, it was seriously draininng my battery bad. I think i was on 2.2/froyo before i unlocked so i don't know if that had anything to do with it. I do know, i haven't had reason to try it intentionally since my battery is great overall. It does help since atnt turned up the juice on the 3g and called it 4g reception has been very satisfactory lately helping power consumption by not having to look for a signal as often.
I voided my warranty.
pukemon said:
My phone was maximum battery savings one time for some reason. I didn't do it. But for some reason, it was seriously draininng my battery bad. I think i was on 2.2/froyo before i unlocked so i don't know if that had anything to do with it. I do know, i haven't had reason to try it intentionally since my battery is great overall. It does help since atnt turned up the juice on the 3g and called it 4g reception has been very satisfactory lately helping power consumption by not having to look for a signal as often.
I voided my warranty.
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Exactly! When the phone switches back and forth 2G and 3G/4G it drains a lot of power. So it too depends on the zone we are in at the moment and that's one of the reason we see a lot of different results among users. Of course, phone and app/game/internet usage style also counts.
Cheers!
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Exactly! When the phone switches back and forth 2G and 3G/4G it drains a lot of power. So it too depends on the zone we are in at the moment and that's one of the reason we see a lot of different results among users. Of course, phone and app/game/internet usage style also counts.
Cheers!
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I think a lot of people don't realize that terrible reception can account for terrible battery. Often we don't get that feedback when people are whining about battery. Also, lots of the people whining about battery play lots of games, and some of those games that put the gpu through it paces suck up juice faster, but the user is not realistic about that either and expects battery life of a phone that is used lightly.
I voided my warranty.
Yay for undervolting
not "killing" aka "ending" or possibly more familiar "closing" your running apps.. that's like, like if you log into your windows box and you don't have the "X" buttons on the window caption bar.. you just leave everything that you run running until you shutdown..
before you even try to retort, obviously there are exceptions. in windows explorer.exe runs endlessly until you shutdown. on your android device that's the equivalent of your preferred launcher.
what else.. msn? the equivalent of your favorite sms app. facebook and notifications? similar to that browser you keep open with 5 or 6 tabs swiftly consuming your precious processor.
i'm not sure an argument even exists. "task killers" has "killers" in the name which naturally has negative connotations. call it a task manager. windows has a task manager.
other than that nice tips
I am stock everything.. even launcher
3hrs 14min screen on time
~12ish hours off the charger
still says 50% battery. which means 50%-59% on motoblur
pretty darn good eh?
Don't understand the point you were trying to make. Are you saying killers/manager is worthwhile or were you trying make a worthless point about the names?
Anyways task managers are worthless. A good comparison to make are mid/high end laptops and their ram. On a forum I frequent, users were comparing their battery runtime with similar setups. Some were getting extra ~hour or so than others who couldn't figure out why they were getting shafted on battery. Some people don't realize that 4 dimms of ram consume twice the power of 2 dimms of ram no matter the gb of x amount of ram. Thus its better to have 2 dimms of 4gb each than it is 4 dimms of 2gb. The ram consumes power whether you use it or not if it is connected. The 1gb of ram in the atrix consumes the same amount of juice whether its holding 300 mb of data or 800 mb of data. Whether the cpu is computing with something active or not in the ram is what's relevant. Task managers only help when you have a rogue app. Id rather uninstall it then deal with a poorly written app.
I voided my warranty.
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not "killing" aka "ending" or possibly more familiar "closing" your running apps.. that's like, like if you log into your windows box and you don't have the "X" buttons on the window caption bar.. you just leave everything that you run running until you shutdown..
before you even try to retort, obviously there are exceptions. in windows explorer.exe runs endlessly until you shutdown. on your android device that's the equivalent of your preferred launcher.
what else.. msn? the equivalent of your favorite sms app. facebook and notifications? similar to that browser you keep open with 5 or 6 tabs swiftly consuming your precious processor.
i'm not sure an argument even exists. "task killers" has "killers" in the name which naturally has negative connotations. call it a task manager. windows has a task manager.
other than that nice tips
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Although that may be true for windows computers it its not with Linux which Android is based on. I know that there are virtual machines and all that jazz for the apps but the core system is all Linux and it's even optimized for battery life so when you press the home button yeah that is still running in the background but if you ever need to use that ram it either clears that app from the ram or (based on the app) kills its altogether. And like someone else said ram uses the same amount of power weather it's being used or not.
Also if you're using well written apps then they shouldn't be using any CPU in the background.
If there is some app that's hogging CPU in the background then you need to just uninstall it. Task killers especially auto task killers are actually using a lot of your CPU constantly checking for apps that are using too much ram but Android already does that automatically.
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Linux can manage its own ram without you and for the love of God, stop using task killers they're making everything worse.
i was defending their usefulness in general not so much their effectiveness in battery preservation. probably the wrong thread. if any its minimal.
i'm talking about active task management tho. when i'm done browsing the web and want to fire up pewpew for some old school polygonal destruction i kill the browser entirely. i guess its really based on the type of user you are whether or not benefit is to be had. some people are active while others are standby
Rayan said:
Exactly! When the phone switches back and forth 2G and 3G/4G it drains a lot of power. So it too depends on the zone we are in at the moment and that's one of the reason we see a lot of different results among users. Of course, phone and app/game/internet usage style also counts.
Cheers!
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Sure, it depends on how you use the phone and the strength of the signal you're getting in your area. Would you guys just turn data off in bad signal areas to save battery? How would you handle that?
This is what happened. My battery is doing amazing. I changed the battery mode to Performance during the day and I still have 65% after 12 hours. Not bad. It's about 2.9% an hour. The display was used for a total of 2 hours and 10 minutes.
Battery life posts are useless unless we have some kind of standards during testing.
Like setup your system and then a 15min phone call, 1 hour of video/ ect.. same call.. same video same ect .. ran on each battery setup will give a truer idea on what saves battery the best.
This whole .. it was off charger for 5.33 hours and I used it alot and its at xx% doesn't hardly mean anything.. how much use is alot? How much is little?
Need some kind of same standard test that can be run..
nice to know
Why do custom roms get worse life on the ATRIX? Im new to this phone. (Used to be a HTC only guy)
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andrewxu said:
Why do custom roms get worse life on the ATRIX? Im new to this phone. (Used to be a HTC only guy)
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Mostly its not about the ROMs you use, but the Kernel or Baseband (Radio) firmware.
At least for me it's been much better than with the original ROM.
Also you must take into consideration other factors like type of use, voice/data signal quality on your area, and many other factors.
Cheers!
Rayan