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Wanted to start this so we can get a better idea of what kind of battery life we will be seeing with 2.2! Please post your opinions so far and if you are rooted/stock and using stock kernel or the .34 kernel cyan posted. Hopefully we won't see much of a decrease do to JIT or any other new features
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
SiNJiN76 said:
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.
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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686765
i was on CM5.0.7t2, and as we all know, CM is known for draining more battery than the stock rom/enoms but so far im seeing same usage as CM which is ok but not great. next few days will be testing for all of us. hopefully we will have similiar usages not like before where some people are getting 40 hours and some 10 lol
I dont if theres an improvement but I updated on a full battery. After I had 97% then killed the battery in like 5hours while at the Engadget Show lol
is anyone running setcpu with FroYo? im already gettin horribad battery life...probably due to Hulu
I may have done something wrong, but I'm on a rooted phone with kernel 2.6.32.9-27220-g328f560 and my phone went from 80% to 10% in about 4 hours just sitting in my pocket. The most I did was check some emails and some basic SMS.
Will monitor closer tomorrow by my battery usage shows something like 19% email. I wonder if my outlook push is doing something constantly that is hurting it.
Edit: it's also charging REALLY slowly. I have it connected to a USB port and its taken ~ 30 minutes to go from 14-16%.
So far, mine is looking pretty good. Early days yet though.
Its better with froyo.
Had to charge every evening with CM 5.0.6 and pershoots kernel, now i get almost a half day more (with more "playing around").
I use setcpu (245/499 at sleep).
My battery is showing 99% after 3 hours switched on and with light usage. If true, that is amazing! More likely something is not quite right. I am using the .34 UV kernel from persionsown he posted on twitter....
The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
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The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
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If I believed that it were a true reflection of battery use and not a mis-report of some sort, I would be shouting about it a lot louder!!
i streamed about 1.5 hours of video via qik (uploading not DLing). Still have 60% battery left. I say that's an improvement. Rooted modaco froyo
I'm seeing what I think is significantly worse battery life since I installed Froyo. It's hard to say, though, because I've been playing around in ways that are different from my normal usage pattern (checking the market frequently for updated apps, for example). I was on stock 2.1update1 and now am on stock Froyo.
Battery life is definitely better than Cyano/Modaco/Enomther but it is also worse than stock ERE27. Can definitely make it through a day still though on moderate/slightly heavy use with Froyo something I can't do with Cyan/Modaco/Enom...and this is way faster and more fun than any rom i've had previously so no complaints from me.
Well I was running cyan 5.0.7 and it lasted me longer than this I have now, which is Paul's Froyo.. but since my wi-fi finally stays on I wont revert.
Question: can I still install older custom kernels on froyo???. Want to try...
My battery died sometime last night, and I had gone to bed with it 70% charged. Prior to Froyo, I was on CM 5.0.6 and usually using intersectraven's 925mv kernels, and I would lose about 1.2% per hour while idling.
I'm not blaming Froyo yet, since it could have been an app screwing around. However, the battery usage page didn't show anything out of the ordinary. It will take some more testing before I ditch Froyo until an update is released.
BTW, battery usage while actually using the phone seems to be about the same.
my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
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my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
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Check out Battery Indicator http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator/
Great and extremely simple app. I've been using it for months. (And it doesn't drain battery either.)
Yeah I know there are a lot of other battery threads out there, but just wondering if I can get some help from all you gurus.
Currently running MYN Warm 2.2 RLS3 with HTC kernel 2.6.32.15.
Have read a lot about this and done a lot of the usual optimizations (calibrate battery, turn off auto sync, 4G, etc...last test I did I was able to get about 25 hours on a charge with very little usage, which is pretty decent. So the phone seems to be sleeping the way it's supposed to.
The issue I have is that when I actually start using the phone the battery drains like crazy (about 1% every two minutes). This is with regular usage (i.e. internet browsing). If I use certain battery hog features such as Navigation or Bluetooh then it drains everything in a matter of an hour or so. Have tried playing around with SetCPU and don't really see any improvements (BTW I only get three options on SetCPU).
So the question is whether the battery drainage is a function of the Kernel I'm using? Why would it be good when it's sleeping, but as soon as I use something consumption goes through the roof. Is there anything out there that would allow you to see actual battery usage by app or service? I know Spare Parts gives you SOME info, but it's not granular enough (i.e. It says Android System includes many different pieces).
I doubt there's any magical kernel that can do more than what you are getting now.
Best you can do is to make sure the phone sleeps when the screen is off, which seems like you have already.
Max display on usage I usually get out of a charge is between 2-3 hours at about 30% brightness settings, out of about 12-15 hour per charge.
I sync google, always data on.
yo i have myn's rom as well but different kernel.. try the ones that myn added in the myn update app that came with the rom
Hmmm...so I guess 2-3 hours of actual usage is the best I can hope for then? I hear people saying how they get a lot of hours and that includes having Bluetooth on, browsing the web, Pandora, gaming, etc...If I did that with mine I don't think I would get more than 45 minutes.
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Hmmm...so I guess 2-3 hours of actual usage is the best I can hope for then? I hear people saying how they get a lot of hours and that includes having Bluetooth on, browsing the web, Pandora, gaming, etc...If I did that with mine I don't think I would get more than 45 minutes.
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You probably can extend it by using wifi but what's the fun in that?
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yo i have myn's rom as well but different kernel.. try the ones that myn added in the myn update app that came with the rom
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Hmmm...Where? Are you referring to the Warm Updater app? I don't see anything about other kernels there. I haven't flashed any kernels on my phone. This is the one it came with.
What battery life do you get when you're actually using the phone?
Achllles: I get quite a bit of degradation on WI-FI as well.
I'm just trying to understand if there's a way to see what exactly is eating my battery when I use the phone. I mean I could be just sitting on the screen not doing anything and if it's on it consumes quite a bit, but as soon as I turn off the screen everything goes to sleep and consumption drops to about 1% per hour. just trying to understand this huge disparity.
Not sure. Best you can do at this point is to install current widget and see how much is being consumed, and guess what's killing your battery.
One other thing I've noticed was even at same settings, my phone often consumed around 25-30mA while screen is off, but now it hovers around 50-100mA, and I haven't made any change to the phone.
Not sure if it's effect on real life usage, but it does seem like it does.
Maybe its not software related...maybe your battery is just shot already.
I know exactly what your going through OP. This caused me to leave Myns and Cyanogen and go to Fresh ROM.
This seems to have mainly fixed the problem.
Myn was using the stock kernal, but his new rsl4 is gonna be using ziggys elite kernal.. Now is this kernal gonna be faster than other ones? No but myn told me its not about speed. Its speed that makes your battery life go down. These flashy kernals that have high quadrant speeds, suffer battery draining issues. So wait till friday for the new rom, and see how that goes.
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Hmmm...Where? Are you referring to the Warm Updater app? I don't see anything about other kernels there. I haven't flashed any kernels on my phone. This is the one it came with.
What battery life do you get when you're actually using the phone?
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there are 2 kernels there.. just try to look harder, i get 12-15hrs heavy use which is more than enough for me
Was never able to find these other Kernels, but I did install Netarchy Toast. Installed versions 4.19 to try Collin's Battery Tweak, but could never get that tweak to work properly (it always has a process that uses a lot of CPU). Uninstalled that and tried version 4.2 ant that seems to be working OK (without the battery tweak).
So after a lot of testing and re-testing I've come to the conclusion that my crazy battery drain only happens whenever there's a "radio" on. CPU usage is not the main culprit in my case as even overclocking it doesn't drain it much if the radios are turned off. It doesn't matter if it's WIFI, 3G or 4G, if the phone is using any of this it drains very quickly. Thus the reason it acts good whenever is sleeping.
A perfect example of this is that I used Power Amp to play music from my music library (from my SD Card). Used it for like 4 hours and it drained the battery at a very reasonable pace, then I stopped that and started playing music using Pandora. Immediately the battery started to drain at about 1% rate every two minutes or so. I've read somewhere that using WIFI instead of 3G would save battery. Didn't seem to make a difference in my case as it drained at about the same rapid pace. Now if I have both on, then it gets even crazier.
So having found the culprits the question is whether there's anything that can be done to improve this. BTW I think I have the latest PRI (1.77_003), PRL (60671) and baseband (2.15.00.09.01) versions
Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
SCREENSHOT 2: This is CM7 Nightly build 27# with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel and although i didnt use the screen once of charge for a few minutes as you can see once the screen was off battery life barely decreased and was over a long period of time.
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
I'm actually looking forward to reading your results.
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Yep, this would actually be pretty useful. Good luck and good work!
i'm a sucker for these types of tests, always love doing them and seeing the results. post soon!
I like others will be keeping an interested eye on your findings.
Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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I'm interested too.
Can u try modaco r10 with Netarchy 1.2.1 kernel.
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Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
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I'd be interested in seeing CM7, just whatever nightly build you manage to catch.
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
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I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
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Unfortunately that will not give you how well the rom does while it is idle.
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
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I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
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What were you using before that you consider this phone to have bad battery life? By far this phone has the best battery life of any Android device I've owned. If you want bad battery life, get an Evo. That is horrific battery life.
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Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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I am looking forward to the rest of these, however just a quick question. What was your battery use like in that situation with the stock ROM? Just for reference, because I'm thinking I might switch to modaco soon. Thanks!
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Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
Interesting find
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
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I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
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This kinda enforces the point that SetCPU is useless for the NS unless you really want to overclock...
Any battery saving tactics used buy lowering screen off profiles are counteracted by the system process;( So i think in the context of battery life you are probably better to not use SetCPU
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Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
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I would definitely move to a video loop or some other 'heavy use' task because when you think about it, not too much can really be changed when almost no power is being used in the first place.
You could also just mention your general feeling for the battery life of each rom, because quite often that is what I go by as my usage varies depending on a range of things (school day or weekend etc) .
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Could you please test modaco r10 with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel ?
I would love to see the difference between modaco's default kernel vs netarchy's kernel.
On CM nightly 13, I just went 11 hours and I'm at 90%. That's 1/2% an hour. Not bad. That is with stock kernel.
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I updated to the current build, using the samsung tool to update when it came out. I've never rooted, so I have always been stock.
Wiped it, and then went through their whole process to install.
My system shows im running 2.2.1, so I know I did it right.
My question is, Froyo is supposed to have improved linpack scores by up to 5x. I used to get like 8 mflops, and now I get around 13. That is by no means 5x more. Is something not working right? Are other people getting this result?
Next, my battery life is horrible, well much worse then before. While running 2.1, I used Zeam launcher, and had Advanced Task killer set to auto kill everytime I turned my screen off (with the exception of a few apps I used). I would traditionally be able to get like 16 hours of battery life, and still have like 30% battery. This is with texting and web browsing during the day. Now, with minimal texting and less use, ive been getting like 12 hours, and im at like 5% battery life. As far as I know, I have it set up just like I did before. Anyone else running into this at all?
(most of my battery is being used by my Display 89% right now, or so my phone says...)
Maybe I am completely offbase on these, but I want to know if anyone else is running into these questions. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I am fairly new to Andoroid so take it for what it is worth. I am also experiencing a drop off in battery life since Eclair (which was also no great shakes re. battery life, lasted about a day), and did the requisite things necessary to to extend battery life - screen at lowest setting, no automatic sync, wifi/BT/gps off when not in use. In my case, the hog is display (98% ) which I attribute to spending more time with the phone since Froyo update. In my previous phone, a blackberry, it took several days and a few battery pulls for the OS to completely "settle in" - I don't know if that's the case with Android OS.
Five times!
Where did you hear that? People with certain phones saw close to a 2x improvement because of JIT, but JIT isn't optimized for our phones so it doesn't do as much for us. Personally, I think a 50% improvement with only software changes is pretty impressive.
Also, don't use task killers with 2.2. FroYo has better task management than eclair did. And people who have tried using task killers to improve battery life have reported worse battery life than just sticking with the stock memory management.
And you know that since your display is using almost 90% of your battery, the problem isn't a runaway process. It is more likely that the problem is how much time the screen is on. Get spare parts and tell us what percentage of the time since last charge/boot the screen has actually been on to use so much juice.
Battery could be the TWS (time without signal) bug. Go to Settings > About phone > Battery use > Cell standby. See what your time without signal is at. If more than a couple percent then toggle Airplane mode on and off. Also make sure you update your PRL. You may have to do this every time you reboot. My understanding is that it's a common problem with 2.2 and CDMA devices (not just the Epic).
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Five times!
Where did you hear that? People with certain phones saw close to a 2x improvement because of JIT, but JIT isn't optimized for our phones so it doesn't do as much for us. Personally, I think a 50% improvement with only software changes is pretty impressive.
Also, don't use task killers with 2.2. FroYo has better task management than eclair did. And people who have tried using task killers to improve battery life have reported worse battery life than just sticking with the stock memory management.
And you know that since your display is using almost 90% of your battery, the problem isn't a runaway process. It is more likely that the problem is how much time the screen is on. Get spare parts and tell us what percentage of the time since last charge/boot the screen has actually been on to use so much juice.
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Yeah,
<http: //developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights. html>
Says 2x-5x. I seeing as i'm not even getting 2x, thats kinda a joke.
But something within the update had to have affected the screens battery use. Like I said before, I had fine battery life not 3 days ago, and now it all of a sudden drops. I HIGHLY doubt that that is a hardware issue. I can test, but I have worked with computer hardware for years, so that just doesn't make any sense to me.
Linpack does not execute any code..it does a floating point calculation..wit JIT you get up to 5x efficiency in code execution..does not mean it crunches numbers faster 5x faster..
The phones that are achieving 5x or more speed are doing so through a flaw in linpack...
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
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Angelo
I don't know if my battery life is worse on ICS than on CM or stock 2.3. Because I don't have any logs of battery life. Maybe I will do some tests in next week, just for curious.
So... I'm getting 30mA - 34mA drain on idle on Andromadus v13 with default kernel. It is lower than yours. I'm using latest radio now (.19).
After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be indicative of the final product.
I don't have any hard numbers, but based on my moderate usage, (8am to 11pm) I go from 100% to about 40%. Fairly good IMO when compared to sense roms (that i'm used to) but not as good when compared to AOSP GB or MIUI roms..
Hmm I found my battery doing suprisingly well compared to aosp gb, now that I'm using ics its lasting longer than ever.
It probably has to do with better app/process management.
That's my experience..
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Well, this might sound strange to say but i'm actually getting the best battery life i've ever had out of ICS so far with Andromadus v13/Jibwich 1.3 on my phone. I seem to manage to get really long charges of at least 48 hours. Maybe i'm not using my phone as much as i was with GB? I'm not quite sure if that's the case or not, but i'm consistently getting longer lasting charges than ever before with GB.
Thing is though that ICS ROMs DO seem to drain the battery more while the phone is actively being used (in comparison to AOSP GB ROMs), this seems to be the case for me, as well as some other people that i've seen.
There were a few strange versions of Andromadus and Jibwich though which seemed to cause severe battery drain for me. Fortunately, that hasn't been the case with any of the latest versions.
All of that said, i still don't think anything compares to the battery life on G2 Slim (Gingerbread AOSP ROM), that ROM has ridiculously good battery life. With that one, i'd use my phone a fair bit (couple hours of tethering, gaming, lots of texting and calls) and it would still last for at least 44 hours or so.
In the end though, there are still some GB ROMs that have much worse battery life than ICS for me. For example, all CM7 variants that i've tried has always had this frustrating radio related battery drain, then some Sense ROMs seem to drain the battery a bit more than AOSP ROMs too. In response to the OP, i never really got amazing battery life with MIUI, so ICS has been a much better experience so far in that regard.
What i do know for sure though is that battery life with ICS is MUCH better than the stock gingerbread OTA update that our phones got.
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
asantaga said:
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
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Here was my (personal) record breaking charge on Andromadus v13 https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/12263406/1/screenies?h=c9ef42
You can see part of my configuration there (radio and CPU speeds).
On top of what's already there, i use supercharger RC6.9 with option 6 and nitro-lag-nullifier.
here are my usage patterns for good battery life:
-I generally stick to 2g networks as i don't do much web browsing while i'm out but when i do, i just switch to 3g.
-I also don't regularly use any task killers but if i detect any choppyness i kill app using Advanced Task Killer.
-I don't use auto-brightness and instead i just use the notification power widget.
-I do lots and lots of texting, some calls here and there, i often use wifi hotspot and i play 2d games a little bit at times, so i'm generally a light-moderate user.
-I also "debloat" as much as possible by getting rid of any system apps that i don't use.
On a random note, right now, i'm using Jibwich 1.3 and it is so great, battery life seems the same as andromadus v13 but this ROM is actually much more smooth and fluid on the home screen.
I hope this helps a bit, give me a thanks if you found this useful ;D
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
asantaga said:
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
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Go to settings --> wireless and networks --> mobile networks
Now see if you have "use only 2g networks" checked. If you do, that'd be why you're always connecting to 2g networks.
As a battery saving tip, it's best to always check that option when you don't need mobile data (like when you're at home and wifi is available).
In addition to that, if that option is NOT checked, then your phone will connect to 3g networks where applicable, you have to check if your carrier actually uses 3g networks on your plan.
Also that app seems fine, but i wouldn't use the "use 2g when sleep" option because that could cause problems with reception between waking and sleeping because it'll be erratically switching between basebands all the time.
asantaga said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
Comments?
Angelo
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It looks to me that yes. Tried 3 ICS inluding JIBWich and CM9 based and battery life was reduced to me about 1/3 maybe 1/4. looks like that. Hope some improovment will come in near future.
I'm running Andromadus v13 and it seems to be only a bit worse than the latest CM7 nightly. However, this is only my subjective opinion, it could be that I'm using my phone more with ICS
I also have the .19 radio and the tweaks associated with v13.
Well from what i've seen, ICS has very steep and sudden drops in the battery stats graph when the phone is being used. This is in contrast to many gingberbread ROMs which just have a sloping negative curve on the battery stats graph. This seems to indicate that ICS uses more battery when the phone is being actively used.
I'll post pics after this current charge is over to show a comparison of ICS battery life with Andro v13 and GB battery with Virtuous G-lite 2.0.1.
I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I also configure all new rom's from begining and on Affinity 2 - my battery in averange usage die after ~16h but on ISC os about ~13h, I don't know why.
My battery after full charge get 4.212 V , tried clear battery stats bin no effect
My avg runtime on one charge on CM7 w/o oc, with ilwt or pershoot kernel is 60hours (yes! 3 "work days") or atleast 2 days with 50-70 min calls and 25-35 SMS
Turning data and/or wifi when needed makes phone battery least looooonger...
Now testing Andromadus Audacity b1, charged 7.5h ago (4207mV), i will post when empty (or near ~3600-3650)
Also remember that we don't have the proper kernel source for our phone. There are some tweaks that can't really be made yet, and probably a bunch of wasted cpu time where errors and stuff get worked through.
GB battery life was worse than Froyo at the same stage of development. It'll even out better when we have the official kernel source for the DHD, I think.
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So most ICS based roms have roughly the same battery life?
I'm current on the audacity beta, getting about 20 hours with no charge with moderate use. Gingerbread i could go about a day and acouple more hours.
I'm a bit bitter that I can only use 3G or higher on Bell with my DZ...that means if I want better battery life I need to ditch mobile data altogether. Boo.
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Better battery life
All,
I was just about to install "Elitemod", which claims to be tuned to bits wrt battery life, and I noticed AudicityBeta1 was released.. so i thought Id try it out.. and
And yes I think its much better!.. this morning I used it a bit, made a dozen phonecalls, sync'd email and for the first time the "voicecalls" are less than the screen.
(see attachment)
Im wondering if the recently released qualcomm drivers made a difference..
At this rate it will last ~40hrs... probably less but as long as it lasts the day Im happy
Anyone else want to confirm my findings?