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Just to let you guys know

Sprint will not sell you the Epic unless its activated in store, so for you unboxers, take your cameras to the stores if you were planning an unboxing video

we'll see what the shack has to say about that

Why do they need to open my box and finger freak my new $500 phone just to activate it? Use the ESN# from the box and call it a day!
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I believe Sprint mean it must be activated under a plan, not necessarily activating the phone itself. So if a person tries to come and buy one at full retail under no plan, they wont allow that.

b15love said:
I believe Sprint mean it must be activated under a plan, not necessarily activating the phone itself. So if a person tries to come and buy one at full retail under no plan, they wont allow that.
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Nope,the phone MUST be activated or it will not be sold, period lol. This is coming from an internal memo I received today
Quoted per memo "no cold sales allowed"

I don't mind them having to activate the phone on spot. It means that it will be usable more quickly.
But the dude at radioshack IS NOT going to be the one who opens the box and takes off the plastic etc. I will most likely go outside the store and take a moment to open it, then let them activate it.

My phone was sent to me with service.
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So I won't be able to buy this as a gift for somebody?
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Whoops! Looks like my Sprint reservation will be for naught.

mommasboy said:
So I won't be able to buy this as a gift for somebody?
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Not from Sprint

talk to the rep explain your situation, sure they can make an exception for the commission they are getting

Activating it in store and a cold sale are two different things. Cold sale means it was sold to someone at full price and they don't have an account. You CAN however, sell the phone attached to someone's line, without actually turning the phone on.
One caveat, however: Good luck finding someone willing to do this for you. I know I wouldn't.

b15love said:
talk to the rep explain your situation, sure they can make an exception for the commission they are getting
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHA......HAHAHA......HA....*cough*
That's funny. Like the commission is anything decent on one line. I have to do 50 activations a month, and my commission check is barely decent.

Not that you would want to pay full price from Sprint when Amazon has a better deal on the buyout price.

Yeah but I can walk into a Sprint store on launch day and buy one. Can't do that with Amazon. Tuesday is far enough away as it is

entropism said:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA......HAHAHA......HA....*cough*
That's funny. Like the commission is anything decent on one line. I have to do 50 activations a month, and my commission check is barely decent.
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you balling, dude, lol

entropism said:
Activating it in store and a cold sale are two different things. Cold sale means it was sold to someone at full price and they don't have an account. You CAN however, sell the phone attached to someone's line, without actually turning the phone on.
One caveat, however: Good luck finding someone willing to do this for you. I know I wouldn't.
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Why wouldn't you? If I buy it and give it to my friend who has a sprint account wouldn't the phone no longer be on my account and just transfer over to theres, or is it still tied into my account some how?

is the policy different for the shack and best buy?

rawsoup said:
is the policy different for the shack and best buy?
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I dont think its any different at either of those places. I recall both places opening my phones during prior purchases. I went with a buddy of mine to best buy when he got his Evo and they actually updated it and told him they had to put a task killer on it before he could take it. Theres no way im letting the best buy mobile rep do that to my Epic

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Not that you would want to pay full price from Sprint when Amazon has a better deal on the buyout price.
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I thought the off contract price from both sprint and amazon was $499?

Texas Recovery Fee??

I just got a text today from tombile
stating that the Texas Recovery Fee is now included in my monthly bill?
What does this mean? and wht IS the texas recovery bill?
edit..
I just read here http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/pcmtemplate.aspx?passet=Pro_Pro_NSFLegal
But how much is it, i don't care now because its MANDATORY, but i still would like to know what it is and what it does.
does anyone have any clue?
EDIT: as far as i've read this is for ALL Texas Customers on ANY carrier, dunno about other states.

lol isn't that some bull**** .

It's just a way to tax us Texans without taxing us directly. They charge a fee to the phone company for operating in the state knowing full well the cost just gets passed on to customers.
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Ya I got that text last week I also would like to know how much more my bill is going to be now

okay as long as i'm not the only one that this is happening to i'm fine.
but still whats the cost for someone whos had this done to them for a month or so?
If its 5$ or more. BULL. I'mma move lol.

man, half our cellphone or cable bill is all these fees, taxes, and regulatory bull**** that no regular person understands

I got this text yesterday as well.
Just called in and the lady read off a statement she had.
Short of it:
1% of your telecommunications billing (minutes, data ect...) is what this fee will be.
Soooo depending on your bill I don't see this being over $1.50-$2. I have two lines both with data and my plan and data are I believe around $120 before tax so I can live with $1.20 more. I will not LIKE it but welcome to America right?
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I stand corrected, mine is $1.41 lol.
Also she said it will be/is in "other charges" in your bill.

Can't wait for this to.happen in my state.
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Yeah I get charged for one in Md. even though I don't live there. I still have a Md. number so I have to pay the taxes.

anthonys2r said:
man, half our cellphone or cable bill is all these fees, taxes, and regulatory bull**** that no regular person understands
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It's because you refuse to raise taxes elsewhere.

xriderx66 said:
okay as long as i'm not the only one that this is happening to i'm fine.
but still whats the cost for someone whos had this done to them for a month or so?
If its 5$ or more. BULL. I'mma move lol.
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Better move its 77cents OMG you'll go bankrupt !

oka1 said:
Better move its 77cents OMG you'll go bankrupt !
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Mine is a fixed rate of $4.99

Yes.. I got this too.. but, the real question is why is it called the Texas Recovery Fee?
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You think that's bad, I worked in a Town where you had to pay a fee for having a job, $20 quarterly, whether or not you lived there it was automatically deducted from your pay, and they didn't even try to hide it, it was called the Right to Work Fee

Dr.Stainedglove said:
Yes.. I got this too.. but, the real question is why is it called the Texas Recovery Fee?
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From what I have read, this is basically t-mobile attempting to recover the fees that they are incurring as part of a tax on them for operating in Texas. Basically they are getting taxed so they are passing the cost on to the consumer. Crummy but not much we can do about it.

Cartigan said:
It's because you refuse to raise taxes elsewhere.
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Well, I live in California (highest tax rate). Not to mention the gas prices here, where it already eclipsed 4 dollars

anthonys2r said:
Well, I live in California (highest tax rate). Not to mention the gas prices here, where it already eclipsed 4 dollars
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yea but california is a nice place to live with lots to do and see and it is worth paying to live there(I did in san dog for 11 years)... Texas.... well....this place just sucks MAJOR ASS! nothing to do or see...

reddragon72 said:
yea but california is a nice place to live with lots to do and see and it is worth paying to live there(I did in san dog for 11 years)... Texas.... well....this place just sucks MAJOR ASS! nothing to do or see...
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You don't like it? Get out. We don't want you here Where else can you buy a 2000sqft house on the water for $170k? Good luck Commyfornia.

bimmerd00d said:
You don't like it? Get out. We don't want you here Where else can you buy a 2000sqft house on the water for $170k? Good luck Commyfornia.
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For someone defending Texas you sure don't show it, your not even sporting TX on your location. HAHA just messing with you
there are several states doing this now, and most consider cellphones as a luxury item like a sports car and charge you for just owning one.

This might be for a different thread but the U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the world and all those corporations just pass that expense on down the line to us.

Question of using wifi hotspots without monthly fee

Is there a way to get the hot spot function without the monthly fees?
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Yes, if you are rooted.
Grab wireless tether here or from market now I believe.

To me, I think of it as I'm already paying for it...It's just using the internet signal from my phone and pushing it to my computer, I have my unlimited data plan!
But yeah, Barnacle Tether or Wireless Tether for root users are your two best bets.

Just remember you're doing something illegal and risk terminating your account with sprint

shook187 said:
Just remember you're doing something illegal and risk terminating your account with sprint
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I don't think you could convince me that wifi tether is Illegal...I mean, try your best...but If I pay for unlimited data on my cell phone...and my cell phone does all of the modulation/demodulation of the data....regardless of what app it is pushed too or what hardware that app has control over....I see 0 wrong with it.

Just because there's nothing morally wrong with it doesn't mean it isn't illegal.

Kcarpenter said:
I don't think you could convince me that wifi tether is Illegal...I mean, try your best...but If I pay for unlimited data on my cell phone...and my cell phone does all of the modulation/demodulation of the data....regardless of what app it is pushed too or what hardware that app has control over....I see 0 wrong with it.
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You could think what you want to think. Tell sprint what you're doing, let's see if there is nothing wrong with it.

shook187 said:
You could think what you want to think. Tell sprint what you're doing, let's see if there is nothing wrong with it.
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I already pay for services on my phone for the internet, therefor I can do what I would like to with it. Yes, Sprint may not be happy with it, but more than likely their sprint rep's wouldn't even understand what I was trying to tell them.

shook187 said:
You could think what you want to think. Tell sprint what you're doing, let's see if there is nothing wrong with it.
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Actually, a Sprint employee told me to get the Epic and root it. LOL

heathmcabee said:
I already pay for services on my phone for the internet, therefor I can do what I would like to with it. Yes, Sprint may not be happy with it, but more than likely their sprint rep's wouldn't even understand what I was trying to tell them.
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I do it too. But by the Terms and Conditions they made you agree to:
Prohibited Network Uses. ...(vi) for an activity that connects any device to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for the purpose of transmitting wireless data over the network (unless customer is using a plan designated for such usage);
So legally you can't do anything you want

Are you guys really dumb or just acting dumb? Of course it's illegal and against contractual agreement.

It's not illegal as there is no law that prohibits you from doing so.
It is absolutely a breach of your contractual obligation with Sprint and makes you subject to termination and perhaps damages recovered from Sprint for using their service in a manner you agreed that you would not use it, though I doubt Sprint would ever do more than terminate your contract.

I want it for work I need conectivity and sum pol have no phones or internet so for me to connect their stuff and send data then dissconnect is Whuts needed but I pay enough already for my plan I don't se the 30 more on top of the bill wnted to bypass that aspect
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vansmack said:
It's not illegal as there is no law that prohibits you from doing so.
It is absolutely a breach of your contractual obligation with Sprint and makes you subject to termination and perhaps damages recovered from Sprint for using their service in a manner you agreed that you would not use it, though I doubt Sprint would ever do more than terminate your contract.
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exactly. Illegal means there is a LAW prohibiting it. Find said law in any state, local, or federal mandate and I will happily eat my shoe.
It IS probably a breach of contract though, which by no means is a law.

Everyone is a law expert these days. Illegality and breach of contract are not the same thing.

"Theft of services" is a violation of the law in probably all states...is in mine. That would be the law, cough, cough, being "broken"....saw a few judges concerning said law back in the day. Jumping turnstiles.

Overstew said:
Actually, a Sprint employee told me to get the Epic and root it. LOL
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Was it really a Sprint employee? Was it a corporate store or a co-branded indirect dealer? Sprint lets a ton of dealers use their name as long as they conform to certain policies and procedures.

Kcarpenter said:
I don't think you could convince me that wifi tether is Illegal...I mean, try your best...but If I pay for unlimited data on my cell phone...and my cell phone does all of the modulation/demodulation of the data....regardless of what app it is pushed too or what hardware that app has control over....I see 0 wrong with it.
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it's not illegal, but is definitely against the terms of your license agreement.
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Just because there's nothing morally wrong with it doesn't mean it isn't illegal.
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yeah. but it's not illegal- if you think so, tell me the law against it.
all you guys saying it's illegal... are totally and completely ridiculously clueless. the party can sue for monetary damages or performance of the contract, but it's not like the gov't is going to take action (like they might if it were actually illegal).

edscholl said:
it's not illegal, but is definitely against the terms of your license agreement.
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This. You can contractually agree to many things that aren't otherwise regulated by law. I'm not saying I don't do it from time to time, but it isn't as simple as saying that you pay for unlimited data so you can use it however you like.

Funny how u all act like u follow every law there is in the world
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Ripped of by Sprint. Beware anyone I beg you.

I love Sprint, NOT!!! I cancel service because it used to work at my house then quit. I go a month without it so I port my numbers and they will not do anything on cancellation fees. I had them submit a Adjustment waiver form and they came back of course saying they are valid cancellation fees. Why should I pay you anything? You can't keep up with your end of the bargain but you want me to keep up with mine. I also should make sure to state I had full service in my house when I signed up and 2 months later nothing. No construction done nothing. Just a big screw you from Sprint. Thanks guys really appreciate it.
Not to mention it was not a building issue. It was outside everything. I wasn't even asking to remove all cancellation fees. I figured 50% would be fair.
Caution to anyone avoid them they are crooked.

U Flippin Idiot said:
I love Sprint, NOT!!! I cancel service because it used to work at my house then quit. I go a month without it so I port my numbers and they will not do anything on cancellation fees. I had them submit a Adjustment waiver form and they came back of course saying they are valid cancellation fees. Why should I pay you anything? You can't keep up with your end of the bargain but you want me to keep up with mine. I also should make sure to state I had full service in my house when I signed up and 2 months later nothing. No construction done nothing. Just a big screw you from Sprint. Thanks guys really appreciate it.
Not to mention it was not a building issue. It was outside everything. I wasn't even asking to remove all cancellation fees. I figured 50% would be fair.
Caution to anyone avoid them they are crooked.
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You didn't have service?
Sounds like a possible phone issue.

Unfortunately I think all carriers would have treated you the same way.

dude it's not sprint it's ur phone get an evo 3D or galaxy S2 and all those problems will dissappear

U Flippin Idiot said:
I love Sprint, NOT!!! I cancel service because it used to work at my house then quit. I go a month without it so I port my numbers and they will not do anything on cancellation fees. I had them submit a Adjustment waiver form and they came back of course saying they are valid cancellation fees. Why should I pay you anything? You can't keep up with your end of the bargain but you want me to keep up with mine. I also should make sure to state I had full service in my house when I signed up and 2 months later nothing. No construction done nothing. Just a big screw you from Sprint. Thanks guys really appreciate it.
Not to mention it was not a building issue. It was outside everything. I wasn't even asking to remove all cancellation fees. I figured 50% would be fair.
Caution to anyone avoid them they are crooked.
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You can actually cancel without ETF by stating that the Administrative Fee is increasing to $1.50. I tried myself (didn't actually go through with it) and they said yes, even though I just upgraded to an Evo 3D on launch day.

Product F(RED) said:
You can actually cancel without ETF by stating that the Administrative Fee is increasing to $1.50. I tried myself (didn't actually go through with it) and they said yes, even though I just upgraded to an Evo 3D on launch day.
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Not sure how true that is now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17413788&postcount=288
People have reported that Sprint will no longer do it for you.

Cool story bro.
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mattykinsx said:
Not sure how true that is now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17413788&postcount=288
People have reported that Sprint will no longer do it for you.
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That's bs. Its on goodandevo.net and I tried it myself, asking if I could instead go month to month. The woman said no but that she'd be happy to terminate my account without ETF if I wanted.
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qjsmartphone said:
dude it's not sprint it's ur phone get an evo 3D or galaxy S2 and all those problems will dissappear
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this was what i was going to say...

qjsmartphone said:
dude it's not sprint it's ur phone get an evo 3D or galaxy S2 and all those problems will dissappear
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Or a Photon.

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Or a Photon.
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Or an Echo.
Sent from my Kyocera Echo.

Verizon Nexus 6 was "supposed" to be released today.

Spoke to a Verizon rep randomly today because I was about 10 seconds away from getting out of my EDGE plan and have a competitor buy me out of a contract. I am patient but for the love of god give me something Verizon. This is ridiculous.
Anyway, long story short I happen to get myself a fanatic today. He had a lot more information than any other rep I have spoken to and I have had my fair share of run ins with these clowns. I figured I would give some love back to my community.
I took it for what it was........ Hopefully its true. Sorry for the poor quality, it does the trick though.
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Chat reps know nothing. No matter how convincing they may appear to be.
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I can assure you the N6 was not supposed to launch today for VZW.

thepiombino said:
I can assure you the N6 was not supposed to launch today for VZW.
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And how exactly is this? Lol. We both know the same thing. My title states supposed in some lovely quotation marks so I am not entirely sure where I came off as serious in here lol. All I am saying is that I got a lot more information then I ever have before..... So I shared it.

I have no I idea WTF you're trying to say here.

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I have no I idea WTF you're trying to say here.
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Not sure how you can assure me that it was not supposed to come out today when we both have no information on it lol. That's all I was trying to say............. It clearly did not come out today, maybe we are getting closer... Maybe not. Take the images for what they are my friend. That's all.

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Not sure how you can assure me that it was not supposed to come out today when we both have no information on it lol. That's all I was trying to say............. It clearly did not come out today, maybe we are getting closer... Maybe not. Take the images for what they are my friend. That's all.
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Oh, I see. I can assure you because I work for the company.

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Oh, I see. I can assure you because I work for the company.
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Oh ok. I am about to give up on the nexus 6 with Verizon man.

If I remember correctly edge is not a contract so you don't have a termination fee, just a payment fee. And from what I heard from T-Mobile, they will only buy out your contract/pay termination fee. They will not pay your edge installment balance off. Just fyi if you did want to eventually leave Verizon while you have Edge installments.

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Oh ok. I am about to give up on the nexus 6 with Verizon man.
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I hear you. I got tired of waiting and purchased from Moto directly, took advantage of their no-interest payments. Sold my G3 to offset some of the costs.

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If I remember correctly edge is not a contract so you don't have a termination fee, just a payment fee. And from what I heard from T-Mobile, they will only buy out your contract/pay termination fee. They will not pay your edge installment balance off. Just fyi if you did want to eventually leave Verizon while you have Edge installments.
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That's right. What I was going to do was pay 75% of my phone off and get started in a contract so another company can buy me out that way.

kidruk said:
That's right. What I was going to do was pay 75% of my phone off and get started in a contract so another company can buy me out that way.
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That's early edge, meaning that you're recycling into another edge installment. you have to completely pay off your phone if you wanted to leave the service. it looks like what you're trying to do has a slim chance of seeing a glimmer of light lol. all in all, if you do it this way, pay the full amount of the phone you have and sell it at ebay/swappa/cl price. not sure what phone you have but i'm sure you'll be losing a few hundred bucks. sorry buddy, that's the trick of edge, they got you.

kidruk said:
Spoke to a Verizon rep randomly today because I was about 10 seconds away from getting out of my EDGE plan and have a competitor buy me out of a contract. I am patient but for the love of god give me something Verizon. This is ridiculous.
Anyway, long story short I happen to get myself a fanatic today. He had a lot more information than any other rep I have spoken to and I have had my fair share of run ins with these clowns. I figured I would give some love back to my community.
I took it for what it was........ Hopefully its true. Sorry for the poor quality, it does the trick though.
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Lol at that third picture, I'm not entirely convinced you know what "off the record" means.

You can switch over to a 2 year contract. I just went through this with Verizon.

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Lol at that third picture, I'm not entirely convinced you know what "off the record" means.
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Lmaoooo... I tried to make it sound as off the record as it can possibly be. I'm sure all those conversations are monitored.

mysterysauce said:
You can switch over to a 2 year contract. I just went through this with Verizon.
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That's good to know that you can switch over. That also means you just forked over hundreds of dollars (to pay off 75% for a device) to verizon AND bought a new phone under a 2 year agreement plus activation fee. But if you started edge when it first came out, then there's no problem about that since you've been already paying that for that period of time.
Or, are you planning to switch to a different carrier for them to pay ETF?

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That's good to know that you can switch over. That also means you just forked over hundreds of dollars (to pay off 75% for a device) to verizon AND bought a new phone under a 2 year agreement plus activation fee. But if you started edge when it first came out, then there's no problem about that since you've been already paying that for that period of time.
Or, are you planning to switch to a different carrier for them to pay ETF?
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I'm doing the 2yr contract. Getting the moto x since its free right now with the headphones. With all the fees I'm paying about 90 dollars. Than I'm going to sell them on ebay. To help with the cost of the nexus 6.

Thought I'd mention that on the official Verizon forums I found a post from mid December where a person claimed to have been told January 2nd by a support rep. That gives me hope that it truly will be released eventually.
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VZ extended their exchange period for the holidays until 1/15. I GUARENTEE they won't release it during that time period. Look for it no earlier than 1/16.

I switched the family over to Verizon yesterday and ended up using a iphone 5S IMEI to get my number to activate before popping it in my CW Nexus 6. The rep that was doing the activations said that he has played with a Verizon Nexus 6 during his training. He asked me how I liked it. I did ask him when it would release and he said he wasnt sure, just that the phone was undergoing testing and should release soon.
Only gripe would be that I cant do Data while On a phone call. Was used to this when I was on AT&T and came in handy while on Conf calls and such.