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Well the last craze to get updated to Froyo seems as though it may end up being short lived as I came across this today: http://www.androidcodex.com/gingerb...edium=rss&utm_camp aign=gingerbread-is-coming
2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.
Personally, I can't wait for 3.0. I'm really hoping it comes a lot closer to being as nice looking and easy to use as iOS. I came from an iPhone and loved it, but I love Android a little bit more; I don't know why I like it more, but I do, however, the apps are really ****ty when compared to iOS and the UI is pretty rough in some areas - sense or aosp.
Google really needs to step it up and hire some graphic designers that can't code at all.
Whoot Whoot !!!
bring it on Google
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that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...
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2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.
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I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?
lee.n.doan said:
that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...
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Moto said blur was pretty much dead -as far as new updates goes- on all of their higher end phones, today.
Where is the source on this article?
very cool, maybe ill finally upgrade from the original htc 2.1 rom to GB when it comes out!
Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.
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Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.
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More than 30fps will never be part of the evo, htc has said many times that its a HARDWARE limitation, they lied for a reason. To cover their ass. I dont see them exposing their own lie, ever.
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Where is the source on this article?
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This ^
...Next we'll be seeing threads about how Gingerbread will be released on Monday...
Sounds interesting... can't wait.
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Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
dglowe343 said:
I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?
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I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
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Even if we don't get it from HTC (unlikely) with the dev's we have, I'm sure the evo will run gingerbread one way or another... if the g1 can run froyo... anything can happen
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I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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Hope that's true. I'd hate to see it done away with.
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SilverZero said:
I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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I did read somewhere that sense was getting an "upgrade" sometime next year. Dont remember where i read this but i remember reading it for sure. I assume this will be for GB.
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Some dev with port it if anything... I don't see why we wouldn't get it. The phone meets the specs and I don't see them abandoning the EVO so quickly.
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This reminds me of all the sourceless articles about Verizon's iPhone launch this January.
So, Gingerbread has been released... when do we see a ROM for the CDMA Hero?
OH HELL YEAH!
and here's a link:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
Time to get a new phone, ha.
Would it run on our phones?
Hopefully one of our few remaining devs can get something going
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I'm not much of a dev, but I'll be dabbling on trying to get it to at least compile. I mostly build stuff for my own personal use. I'm sure someone will beat me to the punch anyway since I work more than I would like to
Your best bet is either jaybob (he seems to be just a cyanogen builder) or aosp. I think besides the previous two I mentioned and nfinitefx45 there are no other real public ROM devs left for our phone.
Darchstar?
Nexus S and Gingerbread are both underwhelming to say the least. Color me disappointed.
alexthearmo said:
Nexus S and Gingerbread are both underwhelming to say the least. Color me disappointed.
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+1 I thought the ui was gonna be badass. Not much of a change I am kinda curious about the obb memory management. Cyanogen is saying no pony on his tweets??? Just a heads up they changed where the adb.exe is
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+1 I thought the ui was gonna be badass. Not much of a change I am kinda curious about the obb memory management. Cyanogen is saying no pony on his tweets??? Just a heads up they changed where the adb.exe is
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3.0 is probably going to be the one that has more of a UI change, pretty sure it was at least semi-confirmed a while ago that 2.3 wouldn't be a drastic change.
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3.0 is probably going to be the one that has more of a UI change, pretty sure it was at least semi-confirmed a while ago that 2.3 wouldn't be a drastic change.
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Yeah I read somewhere about one of the tablet makers saying that they weren't gonna release their tablet till honeycomb comes out because 2.3 isn't much of an upgrade. I just was hoping.
Here's a video I made of the gingerbread sdk. Remember I was tired.
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Darchstar?
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Is MIA
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Yeah I read somewhere about one of the tablet makers saying that they weren't gonna release their tablet till honeycomb comes out because 2.3 isn't much of an upgrade. I just was hoping.
Here's a video I made real tired of the gingerbread sdk. Remember I was tired.
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To be fair though, .1 updates are never huge upgrades, just have back-updates and various new features that generally aren't massive (1.5 > 1.6, 2.0 > 2.1, 2.1 > 2.2, etc etc).The tablet remark makes sense, because if what's been said on various tech sites in the past is true, 3.0 will be made with tablets in mind, as opposed to 2.2/.3, which are not really optimized for tablets at all. Personally, I'm a bit excited to see what happens with NFC, as I am sort of into the idea of never carrying a credit card again.
Does 2.3 have requirements? I heard that either 2.3 or 3.0 will but I think its gonna be 3.0 since its a .7 update instead of a .1 update.
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Does 2.3 have requirements? I heard that either 2.3 or 3.0 will but I think its gonna be 3.0 since its a .7 update instead of a .1 update.
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This isn't always the case but in general naming practice the code base for a X.1, X.2, X.3, X.N, series of a program are the same and the revision steps are bug fixes and maybe small upgrades. When a name changes from 1.X to 2.X that usually indicates a major revision to the base code such as a rewrite.
Such as, 1.5 to 1.6, minor step, few new goodies mostly bug fixes, 1.6 to 2.1, major jump tons of changes and bug fixes, 2.1 to 2.2, mostly bug fixes but also included major Dalvek VM upgrade, the step from 2.2.1 to 2.3 is mostly bug fixes and a few updates. The next major revision should be 3.0 and from what I have read and heard it will have a major focus on larger format applications beyond cell phones such as Tablets and Media devises such as Tv's and Google Tv.
well the evo devs are already working on a rom for us. glad i bought an evo when i did. i don't think the hero can handle 2.3.
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Does 2.3 have requirements? I heard that either 2.3 or 3.0 will but I think its gonna be 3.0 since its a .7 update instead of a .1 update.
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you from sterling heights, mi? i used to live in macomb county.
fixxxer2008 said:
you from sterling heights, mi? i used to live in macomb county.
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Off topic, but I live in Warren.
fixxxer2008 said:
you from sterling heights, mi? i used to live in macomb county.
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Ya im from sterling heights
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well the evo devs are already working on a rom for us. glad i bought an evo when i did. i don't think the hero can handle 2.3.
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That would be odd.
My phone seems to handle each update better than the last.
I know that it's mainly meant for tablets, and it's just a preview, but I figured some of you will want to download and play with it.
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i know that it's mainly meant for tablets, and it's just a preview, but i figured some of you will want to download and play with it. :d
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it has 2d accelerated graphics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[EDIT] downloading now, time to explorer the emulator.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
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I know that it's mainly meant for tablets, and it's just a preview, but I figured some of you will want to download and play with it.
Android Developers
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Ah. But you know we will get it running on our evos. You know it will happen. I hope
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Ah. But you know we will get it running on our evos. You know it will happen. I hope
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Haha, exactly what I'm hoping for. Gingerbread is getting old already
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Ah. But you know we will get it running on our evos. You know it will happen. I hope
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There was an interview here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/exclusive-interview-googles-matias-duarte-talks-honeycomb-tab/
And if i'm correct he said honeycomb can be scaled down for phones.
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There was an interview here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/exclusive-interview-googles-matias-duarte-talks-honeycomb-tab/
And if i'm correct he said honeycomb can be scaled down for phones.
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if thats true, any release date. hopefully we will get it
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if thats true, any release date. hopefully we will get it
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I think the Devs will have something cooked up for us way before Sprint or HTC does.
It's kind of fun to play with in the emulator...it would be more fun if I could figure out how to flip it to where it wasn't sideways. lol
port...port...port...
Damn that preview runs like crap can't wait til they finish optimizing it so it works right.
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Cole28 said:
Damn that preview runs like crap can't wait til they finish optimizing it so it works right.
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It's almost always going to run like crap in the emulator, even a port rom would likely work better.
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Will it have Sense?
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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Ah. But you know we will get it running on our evos. You know it will happen. I hope
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I have absolutely no doubt at all somebody will get it running on out evo's within days of a tablet being put on the market running it. They've done it with everything else, hell the phone was rooted before it was even released! The dev's here are magic.
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Will it have Sense?
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Yes, but you have ro download it from HTC and use WinZip to install it. Make sure your WinZip is fully updated.
Seriously though, I bet someone comes up with a port from the emulator before the Xoom even comes out.
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So by the time we get an actual release of gingerbread, we will probably have a working port of Honeycomb.
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So by the time we get an actual release of gingerbread, we will probably have a working port of Honeycomb.
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Lol, yeah, probably.
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I doubt this version of Android will work on any phone. At least not properly. It's built for tablets. I'm sure there's a handset version of this UI being developed now but we probably won't see that until late Spring or the Summer.
Award Tour said:
I doubt this version of Android will work on any phone. At least not properly. It's built for tablets. I'm sure there's a handset version of this UI being developed now but we probably won't see that until late Spring or the Summer.
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It can be scaled down. I wouldn't expect it to work properly anyway, since it would be an emulator port. I'm sure they are working on a phone version though.
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Award Tour said:
I doubt this version of Android will work on any phone. At least not properly. It's built for tablets. I'm sure there's a handset version of this UI being developed now but we probably won't see that until late Spring or the Summer.
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Why is that? If it uses the same type of processor why couldnt it be ported?
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Why is that? If it uses the same type of processor why couldnt it be ported?
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I wouldn't be surprised if it booted on a phone. In fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't. What I was saying is that the framework is probably made specifically for tablet size displays. It'd probably be all broken on a small resolution.
Edit: If it did boot, you might be able to increase the software DPI but then everything would be super tiny and unusable as a day to day. Plus I don't know if the Adreno 200 GPU drivers would play nice with the new 2D/3D acceleration. So it might not work correctly or even boot on our EVOs.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it booted on a phone. In fact, I'd be surprised if it didn't. What I was saying is that the framework is probably made specifically for tablet size displays. It'd probably be all broken on a small resolution.
Edit: If it did boot, you might be able to increase the software DPI but then everything would be super tiny and unusable as a day to day. Plus I don't know if the Adreno 200 GPU drivers would play nice with the new 2D/3D acceleration. So it might not work correctly or even boot on our EVOs.
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You make some very good points. I did boot, within the emulator, to a 4.3 inch screen and it looked usable. Your point about the drivers is well taken though. That could be a big issue. Hopefully some enterprising dev will try to find out.
By the way...anyone know how to change the screen orientation in the emulator?
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I've heard rumors its in the works, and heard it was already ported over. Any truth to these?
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CRIME INC. said:
I've heard rumors its in the works, and heard it was already ported over. Any truth to these?
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well i would venture to say if it was ported over it would be in the dev section, i too have read somewhere it was in the works, but cant remember where, not even 100% sure what synergy is tbh i know its sense 3 but dont know if its an actual sense 3 rom or a 2.1+3.0
Wrong post sorry
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Looks like you asked to delete the wrong thread......
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Hahahaha
Yes it's in the works (Synergy) according to someone close to the project.
Man I would love synergy!
It shouldn't be too hard at all to port considering its based on our GB update....
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if its based off our gb why don't we have it already?
I hope its soon. That's an awesome ROM.
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YoungCorruption said:
if its based off our gb why don't we have it already?
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Time for a life lesson my friend.
People don't care about the shift
It sucks but it's truth it's just not as popular as everything else the EVO is a revolutionary phone I'm a way so it's very popular but the shift came out right about the time new dual core phones came out so in a devs eyes its not there first pick to develop on but they'll use any resource they got which one was our GB update.
Hope it answered your question
^^^ lol it did but its just sad knowing that cause the shift is a really good and fast phone but i can see them wanting the fancy and newest or more popular phones
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^^^ lol it did but its just sad knowing that cause the shift is a really good and fast phone but i can see them wanting the fancy and newest or more popular phones
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Yea it's very capable with the second gen snapdragon. More capable than the EVO to do anything so it's upsetting that people still develop for a phone with an older processor (I hate to call 1st gen snapdragon old but in the world an pace of technology it is) and that's about to stop selling starting October than a phone that barley came out not even a year ago
Well that my rant lol.
But yea I'm sure synergy will eventually make it's way to the shift and if people have heard rumors about the shift well then it's gotta be true because rumors and EVO shift don't go together for reasons stated in above posts
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Yea it's very capable with the second gen snapdragon. More capable than the EVO to do anything so it's upsetting that people still develop for a phone with an older processor (I hate to call 1st gen snapdragon old but in the world an pace of technology it is) and that's about to stop selling starting October than a phone that barley came out not even a year ago
Well that my rant lol.
But yea I'm sure synergy will eventually make it's way to the shift and if people have heard rumors about the shift well then it's gotta be true because rumors and EVO shift don't go together for reasons stated in above posts
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+1
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I made a port for myself a little over a week ago. I've also talked to myn about releasing it and he's all for it. So when I have some more time I'll try and update it to the current release and the maybe put it up.
zenulator said:
I made a port for myself a little over a week ago. I've also talked to myn about releasing it and he's all for it. So when I have some more time I'll try and update it to the current release and the maybe put it up.
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I think a lot of people would really appreciate that. The more ROMs we can get the better.
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I made a port for myself a little over a week ago. I've also talked to myn about releasing it and he's all for it. So when I have some more time I'll try and update it to the current release and the maybe put it up.
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Im sure we would love that!
That would be awesome!!! Thanks to all the developers working on and with the shift. You guys rock!!
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zenulator said:
I made a port for myself a little over a week ago. I've also talked to myn about releasing it and he's all for it. So when I have some more time I'll try and update it to the current release and the maybe put it up.
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Thx Zen , would like to try it.
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zenulator said:
I made a port for myself a little over a week ago. I've also talked to myn about releasing it and he's all for it. So when I have some more time I'll try and update it to the current release and the maybe put it up.
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I'm down for testing, did it for the vogue might as well do it for speedy.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/ice-cream-sandwich-based-cyanogenmod-9-in-the-works-slated-for/
Hmmm...I wonder if this will be available for our baby Aria....
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Dont be too hopeful. Google said that ICS wont be available for Nexus One and that's a more powerful phone than the Aria. Maybe they lack manhours to do it, but in that case, we would need a big Dev backing up the Aria, and since it aint such a popular phone...
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Dont be too hopeful. Google said that ICS wont be available for Nexus One and that's a more powerful phone than the Aria. Maybe they lack manhours to do it, but in that case, we would need a big Dev backing up the Aria, and since it aint such a popular phone...
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Unfortunate truth...I was surprised we got support for CM7 to be honest. I suppose no ICS for me until April (or later if I decide to wait for a certain phone)
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/ice-cream-sandwich-based-cyanogenmod-9-in-the-works-slated-for/
Hmmm...I wonder if this will be available for our baby Aria....
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Way too early say absolutely, but I doubt very much that ICS will not be properly ported to msm7227 devices - including Aria.
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Way too early say absolutely, but I doubt very much that ICS will not be properly ported to msm7227 devices - including Aria.
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Then again, one thing is to be ported, another differently is that it runs smoothly, aye?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-first-android-ever-the-htc-g1-gets-ics-port/
I have already ported the ICS, but the HTC Aria slows as everyone else!
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I have already ported the ICS, but the HTC Aria slows as everyone else!
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have you tried overclocking at all?
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have you tried overclocking at all?
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No! Not did overclock
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No! Not did overclock
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It should help.
i think, kernel not stable! But still try!
I'm sure there will be a stable ics rom for the aria even if its not cm9. I have a very early one on my aria atm which runs well. Its not my everyday phone so idc that it does not have mobile or wifi lol. I just wanted to play around with ics.
IMO the sense 2.1 + 3.0 rom is more resource intensive than an aosp build of ICS. We'll see a smooth port on the aria, I'm sure of it. Not supporting the N1 was a business decision on Google's part not to support legacy hardware.
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And here's an update: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update.
From the sounds of it doesn't look like we gonna get Cm9. Good thing we have a build in the works already.
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Love my Aria but I really think its the end for this little guy.
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Love my Aria but I really think its the end for this little guy.
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Really? I think with CM7, the Aria still has a lot of juice left.
I still cannot justify an upgrade at this point, even if we do not get CM9 or another ICS port.
Like me little ARIA.
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Really? I think with CM7, the Aria still has a lot of juice left.
I still cannot justify an upgrade at this point, even if we do not get CM9 or another ICS port.
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Concur!! Still like the smaller phones with a very versatile functionality. Would liike to see ICS on this fine phone, but will still keep the ARIA if that never transpirers.
Looks like Cyanogenmod 9 add ARMv6J and ARMv6VFP support
http://r.cyanogenmod.com/10301
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Looks like Cyanogenmod 9 add ARMv6J and ARMv6VFP support
http://r.cyanogenmod.com/10301
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Which means "hooray, we are getting CM9" or is it too early to cheer??