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4G signal

I live in Seattle,WA. T-Mobile is useless for customer support. My question is what is up with 4G. Is it like still in beta or something. I haven't seen 4G at all.
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You don't see an actual 4g sign on your phone you just see a h on your signal bar that stands for hspa+ aka 4g
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but im still on the UMTS network. not HSPA+.....the H is always there unless im on EDGE orGPRS.

HSDPA 3G or 4G?

Just checking but when your network status says HSDPA that is not considered "4G" right? More like enhanced 3G correct?
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you're right ! but if u have a 4g phone like the mt4g, g2, samsung vibrant4g, etc.
you will get the full hsdpa+ 4g network. so u don't have to worry if it says 4g or just H, or hsdpa in settingsettings info. I can tell the difference with my mt4g compared to mytouch3g. both says H on the notification bar & HSDPA but the speeds for the mt4g is way faster!

The terminology is branding more than anything else. hsdpa is t-mobile's high speed protocol for 3g, but they call it 4g because, well, pretty much everyone has jumped the gun on calling their networks 4g.

fastnsx21 said:
Just checking but when your network status says HSDPA that is not considered "4G" right? More like enhanced 3G correct?
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Someone chime in and correct me if i'm wrong
By definition 4G has to meet 100Mbps on download during peak times. HSPA+, LTE, Wi-Max do not meet these requirements as of currently. And every thing is enhanced 3G.
If you look at it from a "G" = Generation Standpoint we are in the 4th Generation of Mobile Broadband technology. 1: GRPS 2:EDGE 3:HSPA 4:HSPA+. So it really depends on which side of the coin you look. and to really get the idea of it
HSPA = High Speed Packet Access
HSDPA = High Speed Download Packet Access
HSUPA = High Speed Upload Packet Access
If i'm correct typically your phone is considered HSPA if you have HSDPA and HSUPA activated. But if you are on lets say AT&T with the Atrix, they consider that a HSDPA+ phone, because the upload end of things are still as slow as 3G or below.

Well hsdpa will have about 8-10 mbps theoretical download speed. Where later this year T-Mobile is releasing hspa + to have up to 42 mbps download and technically it can be upgraded in to the 100's of mbps.
So personally I would call it 3g
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neidlinger said:
Someone chime in and correct me if i'm wrong
By definition 4G has to meet 100Mbps on download during peak times.
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I thought it was 1gig
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I was checking because I was wondering if I was getting what I paid for or not.
I put quotes around the 4G because there is some debate about whether it is or not. I really believe its not. Whether it meets standards or not it doesn't bother me because I reallyyyy don't need 100mbps on a phone. Tethering on the other hand....
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TMobiles HSPA+ network is considered 4G by the ITU, which says what should be called 4G. It wasn't originally fast enought, but they changed their mind and said that WiMax, LTE, AND HSPA+ are technically 4G. http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/

mark manning said:
I thought it was 1gig
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Network speed isn't really measured in gigs..
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Whats H+ ?

Noticed I was connecting at H+ rather than H at my friends today. What is H+ compared to H and G? /noob

Is this what you mean?
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-hsdpa.htm

H+ stands for HSPA+

H+ is HSPA+ which is just a name of a network speed. Just like 4g, 3g etc. It's just a little faster than 3G and a little slower than 4g.
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Faster than 3g and slower than LTE. Some us carries have been calling H+ 4G when it's actually 3.5G
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Just as an FYI...Bell Canada calls 3.5G "4G".
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/03/02/bell-hspa-4g-network.html

Ahaaa! Thanks peeps. Wondered if it was 3.5/4G. Was certainly quite fast!

mrdegriz said:
Noticed I was connecting at H+ rather than H at my friends today. What is H+ compared to H and G? /noob
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MIUI - give up 4g?

As i understand it, MIUI doesn't support 4G.. but a lot of people here seem to like it.
For those of you using MIUI with otherwise decent 4G coverage from t-mo, is it a big sacrifice to give it up?

klm22 said:
As i understand it, MIUI doesn't support 4G.. but a lot of people here seem to like it.
For those of you using MIUI with otherwise decent 4G coverage from t-mo, is it a big sacrifice to give it up?
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MiUi doesn't give up HSPA+. Who ever told you that is lying. The radio files are not a member of the ROM. If the radio file you have supports HSPA+ then you will get HSPA+ on MiUi.

neidlinger said:
MiUi doesn't give up HSPA+. Who ever told you that is lying. The radio files are not a member of the ROM. If the radio file you have supports HSPA+ then you will get HSPA+ on MiUi.
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Don't know why the OP would think such a thing....A rom won't remove 3G or 4G from your phone, unless you physically remove the radio parts from the device. You will get 3G & HSPA+[4G] on miui, only if you are in the coverage area.

Ace42 said:
Don't know why the OP would think such a thing....A rom won't remove 3G or 4G from your phone, unless you physically remove the radio parts from the device. You will get 3G & HSPA+[4G] on miui, only if you are in the coverage area.
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I have no idea either. I've never seen a post that leads one to believe that any ROM will take away HSPA+.
I've seen where people say that "4G" or "H" no longer appears but you are still getting the service regardless of what the phones.

Ok thanks, this is helpful. I guess I am confusing with HSPA+ and perhaps LTE.
There's many posts that mention MIUI doesn't support "4G" and probably won't until China gets "4G". I'm guessing this is LTE they are talking about?

klm22 said:
As i understand it, MIUI doesn't support 4G.. but a lot of people here seem to like it.
For those of you using MIUI with otherwise decent 4G coverage from t-mo, is it a big sacrifice to give it up?
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Hspa+ is only one radio. So you will always have 4g. MIUI doesn't support wimax radio. Which is sprint band which has one radio for 3g and another for 4g.
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I have been using Miui on my HTC sensation and I can't get 2g, 3g or 4G. I only get regular cell. I can't even connecct to the marketplace as it says no connection. And I've tried about everything.

The evo has no wimax (4G) support on any MIUI ports. That is another example of the no 4G support. Easy mistake for someone to make, I suppose. Now they know.
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klm22 said:
As i understand it, MIUI doesn't support 4G.. but a lot of people here seem to like it.
For those of you using MIUI with otherwise decent 4G coverage from t-mo, is it a big sacrifice to give it up?
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... i get 4G...
I'm using my 4G to type this right now.. lol
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saranhai said:
... i get 4G...
I'm using my 4G to type this right now.. lol
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Technically, you're using an OSK to type it. You're using 4G to SEND your smartass reply ;-)
Haha. Good times around here.
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estallings15 said:
Technically, you're using an OSK to type it. You're using 4G to SEND your smartass reply ;-)
Haha. Good times around here.
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Lmaooo well if you to be like that...
Sent from my 4G signal xD
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Yup I'm getting lightning 4G speeds with MIUI 2.1.13...just downloaded

Yes 4g is working on miui roms
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tweaq said:
I have been using Miui on my HTC sensation and I can't get 2g, 3g or 4G. I only get regular cell. I can't even connecct to the marketplace as it says no connection. And I've tried about everything.
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Try wiping everything. After backing up that is; and doing a clean install. I've seen your issue with some people who were just installing over.

[Q] Help me with my HTC MyTouCh 4G

greetings Friends
As I can restore my HTC MyTouch 4G to the original? updated with GB but do not know if this has influenced the network! It really is 4G?

I think what your asking is, after upgrading to gingerbread mysense you are suspicious that the 4g is no longer 4g. I'm not sure why your suspicious but i can assure you that it is 4g... Well by T-mobile's standards because they use HSPA+ as opposed to LTE but never mind that's a different subject, the 4g is 4g

Just download a speed test from the Market and check for yourself if u have 4g coverage in your area and in your rate plan then it should show 4g speeds
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