Many of the newer kernels have builtin scaling, e.g. smartass governor. And some others I've seen mentioned that SetCpu has no impact.
So is it still advised for root users? There's also Overclock Widget which people claim does the same thing (with less options).
ive never used setcpu, it's not needed IMO.
If you are using a kernal with havs, then no its not needed. Im running a stock kernal, and I love setcpu. Give me at least a full day battery, sometimes 2-3 days if im light on the usage. Without it, I cant go more than 8 hours.
What about for overclocking. Using say netarchy's 4.3.2
You still need setcpu right?
I use SetCPU for overclocking and to switch governors only. I don't use any profiles because I use a HAVS kernel that works beautifully.
If you are using cm7, in the cyanogen mod settings there is a area where you can set the CPU and governor.
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What about for overclocking. Using say netarchy's 4.3.2
You still need setcpu right?
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I use SetCPU for overclocking and to switch governors only. I don't use any profiles because I use a HAVS kernel that works beautifully.
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I am using Netarchy toastmod 4.3.2 havs...
so.. what do you mean.. dont use profiles because of havs....
and is there a way to overclock without setcpu or something similar?
object of debate... mostly used to set profiles. alot of devs will recommend not to if need be in their roms but if used in a rom with scaling script the setcpu tends to override it.
I use SetCPU for one giant reason: Profiles. I don't want my phone overclocking at all when the screen's off, or the battery is super-low. When it's plugged in? Sure.
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I use SetCPU for one giant reason: Profiles. I don't want my phone overclocking at all when the screen's off, or the battery is super-low. When it's plugged in? Sure.
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yeah the only profile I have set is that when my screen is off my phone is only at 245MHz.
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I use SetCPU for one giant reason: Profiles. I don't want my phone overclocking at all when the screen's off, or the battery is super-low. When it's plugged in? Sure.
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Would you mind sharing your profile settings?
drmacinyasha said:
I use SetCPU for one giant reason: Profiles. I don't want my phone overclocking at all when the screen's off, or the battery is super-low. When it's plugged in? Sure.
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I used to think like this until I tried running w/o setCPU for a couple days with cm7 to find out if it made a difference. I'd challenge anyone running cm7 to set your oc + gov in the cm7 settings and disable setCPU for a day; I bet the results would surprise you.
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Would you mind sharing your profile settings?
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I used to think like this until I tried running w/o setCPU for a couple days with cm7 to find out if it made a difference. I'd challenge anyone running cm7 to set your oc + gov in the cm7 settings and disable setCPU for a day; I bet the results would surprise you.
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I'll try it.
I really only use it for changing governors and I used to use it for screen-off. However, I realized that if you're running something in the background that needs more than 245 MHz and the screen is off, it'll run slowly (ie fetching album art in "3" [the music player]).
When I'm on Myn's I use Netarchy Toastmod 4.3.2 CFS SBC More Aggressive without SetCPU. I believe it's set to Conservative by default. It runs super smooth. Right now I'm on CM7 RC1 with SavagedZen 0.9 CFS SBC GB without SetCPU, since CM7 has a built in menu for changing governor and CPU min/max.
Well, tried ditching SetCPU, and tbh, didn't see all that much of a battery life change. Some days it was better, most days it was a little worse (by about an hour or so). But because of the profiles and all, I'll be sticking with SetCPU for now.
Related
Being new to the Android world, I'm a little unsure of what my settings should be for SetCPU on my Epic.
Looking for something that would offer a good balance of battery and performance without crippling the device too much.
Thanks in advance...
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I keep mine short and simple. I am using a kernel at allows for overclocking so I set the max to 1.2Ghz and the min to 200Mhz. You can play around with the scaling to see which governor works for you best. It's really up to your butt-o-meter.
Under "Profiles" I have one single profile for "Sceen Off" that keeps my EPIC at 200Mhz when the screen is off.
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Under "Profiles" I have one single profile for "Sceen Off" that keeps my EPIC at 200Mhz when the screen is off.
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Your epic doesn't freeze when you do that? No matter which kernel I use, if I set it so that my phone down clocks when the screen is off it freezes. It won't unlock and the only way for me to be able to use it again is to pull the battery out and reboot.
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no problems here with my settings
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Your epic doesn't freeze when you do that? No matter which kernel I use, if I set it so that my phone down clocks when the screen is off it freezes. It won't unlock and the only way for me to be able to use it again is to pull the battery out and reboot.
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I set mines to min 100 max 1200 conservative scaling and its been almost 48 hours and I have yet to have a lock up or freeze up im using the Stoopid fast kernel posted in Android development, set cpu 2.03 and AOSP OC v2 ROM
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Your epic doesn't freeze when you do that? No matter which kernel I use, if I set it so that my phone down clocks when the screen is off it freezes. It won't unlock and the only way for me to be able to use it again is to pull the battery out and reboot.
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Nope. Seems to love it. I guess my EPIC and my EVO share their love for UV + underclocking maybe they really are related
I keep my Epic 1.2 -600 , I'd recommend the Stoopid Fast Kernel as well. The phone is still quick and phone is better with battery life and a hell of a lot quicker when it comes to charging.
I have mine set to 100 Min / 1200 Max. No problems that I can tell.
MixUp kernel.
What about the advanced settings? Can somebody explain to me what they are for?
when i input my own settings it wont show the settings. it just says 1 if at max and 0 if anything else. i love the app i just dont think its really working. i'm wondering if the kernel i'm on allows it to change cpu speeds.
running suppernova build 1.5
kernel 2.6.32.9 (not sure what that means)
Mr.Muscles said:
I keep my Epic 1.2 -600 , I'd recommend the Stoopid Fast Kernel as well. The phone is still quick and phone is better with battery life and a hell of a lot quicker when it comes to charging.
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might be a stupid question...but is that a Froyo Kernel your running thur?
Here is what I have on mine set to and I get at least 11 to 12hrs of battery life and its super fast
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Here is what I have on mine set to and I get at least 11 to 12hrs of battery life and its super fast
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i was always told to leave it on concervative scaling for sgs phones. Conservative won't allow my phone's screen to toggle on if my max is over 400. If i set it to ondemand, it works just fine at 400mhz.
jemarent said:
i was always told to leave it on concervative scaling for sgs phones. Conservative won't allow my phone's screen to toggle on if my max is over 400. If i set it to ondemand, it works just fine at 400mhz.
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Huh. I just set it up the way I have it my phone just flys and I get 1965 on quadrant just try it out and if it doesn't work just go back to conservative. Make sure u enable the profiles
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I thought SetCPU didn't work with the Froyo Builds.
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I thought SetCPU didn't work with the Froyo Builds.
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It does. Where did u hear that
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It does. Where did u hear that
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I forgot where I read it but it was when I sold my Evo and moved to this section of the forums. I'll look around some more and see if I come up with something but I thought it was something like "Until Froyo gets officially released Set Cpu can't work with it. I bought set cpu a long time ago and didn't use it since. I'm about to throw that bad boy on though to see if it makes any difference.
It's not that SetCPU doesn't work with froyo, but the stock kernel on froyo already scales between 100mhz to 1000mhz without it. I do not have it installed and when I run a system monitor mine usually idles between 200mhz to 400mhz and ramps up whenever a notification comes in or syncing starts.
Just did a screen cap and the phone it idling at 135mhz.
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It's not that SetCPU doesn't work with froyo, but the stock kernel on froyo already scales between 100mhz to 1000mhz without it. I do not have it installed and when I run a system monitor mine usually idles between 200mhz to 400mhz and ramps up whenever a notification comes in or syncing starts.
Just did a screen cap and the phone it idling at 135mhz.
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thats true.
also. setCPU messes with your 4g connection to connect. i wasent able to connect when i turnned on the setcpu but i was on the stock conservative setting. i think 4g requires alot of cpu usage that setCPU dosent recognize. SMH
Just flashed enoms g2 rom and I cleared up what I can, tried making it efficient.I ran some benchmark tests on quadrant standard and was kinda disappointed in the numbers. My bests score was low 1100 after that it was 850,900, 835... very basic stuff any suggestions???
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If you ran the benchmark on battery power, try plugging the phone in. Sometimes the CPU will underclock itself to save power. If that doesn't work, download SetCPU (google it) and make sure that the max speed is set above 800 MHz.
On the stock G2 ROM I was getting 1600-1800... maybe it's the ROM your using
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On the stock G2 ROM I was getting 1600-1800... maybe it's the ROM your using
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Yeah this is the typical range for a stock G2.
Those scores in the OP are so low, its almost like hes underclocking or something. Or possibly a running application using a ton of resources?
i got 2064. but i was running virtuous.
im running enom's rom and i had it underclocked at 768 and i was still able to get 1609
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If you ran the benchmark on battery power, try plugging the phone in. Sometimes the CPU will underclock itself to save power. If that doesn't work, download SetCPU (google it) and make sure that the max speed is set above 800 MHz.
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Umm... No... The CPU doesn't underclock to save power...
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Umm... No... The CPU doesn't underclock to save power...
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Perhaps the kernel has an undervolting profile built in and it's triggered by a < battery percentage?
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What should I have my phone clocked at with enoms rom?? I dnt have much running at all I dnt understand why its so slow, I was gunna flash the latest kernal and try that... clock settings please anyone
Edit: jus tweaked my clock on spareparts. I switched cpu governor from ondemand to performance and the clock setting. I put underclock at the lowest and overclock at the max highest... benchmark test put up a 2200... I feel as if this will drain battery like crazy only time will tell... what do u think, should I drop the overclock? Is it safe at that high number???
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If I run with Flippy's kernel, CM 6.1.1 Stable and OC my phone to 1.8 GHz, I can get a Quadrant score of 3037 (screenshot below). With it OC'd to 1.4 GHz (my normal OC setting) I can get around 2500.
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If I'm averging 2500 I'm fine wit that my current settings are Enoms Rom
Using enoms cpu controls
Cpu governor: performance
Max frequency: 1,516,800
Min frequency 245,760
I dropped 3 percent in battery writing this message.... my main concern is battery and overworking the cpu.... I'm thinking about downloading set cpu and clocking the performance settings then set it for power save after a certain drop point........ does this sound logical?
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When you set your cpu to performance it means your cpu will stay at max all the time and it never goes down which is why you are getting bad battery life.
There is no need for that.
Yes you can do that with setcpu
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Maybe you tested your Samsung Galaxy s by mistake?..lol..just joking.
I score around 2500 on quadrant:
OC'd to 1.4 (normally run 1.2)
SetCpu On Demand
CyanogenMod 6.1
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Maybe you tested your Samsung Galaxy s by mistake?..lol..just joking.
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Hey! Not funny! My vibrant gets 2035 in the quadrant! But I'm going to get myself a g2 because I miss the hardware keyboard
Got me 2813 with Virtous 0.9 <---- (sense rom btw) and eVil's latest Glacier based kernel @ 1.5ghz... life is good
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Yeah, I know, its my first release and its build #28. Just wanted to let you guys know how much of my time with testing and building I put in to this. Tons of thanks to Morfic, Netarchy, Supercurio, Dagnus, the great devs at Google, and of course the ever wonderful Codeworkx, Coolya, and Atinm. Now that the dry part is over, lets get to the good stuff!
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Joe Biden support Trident!
http://www.joebidensteeth.com/
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Features:
Massive+stable 1400 MHz Overclock (tested on several phones and found to be stable if you don't use SetCPU or any other CPU frequency setter)
Voodoo Sound v4 (v5 coming soon)
A cool boot screen
A cool name
Gingerbread-ful
Built with codesourcery's ARM-EABI 2010.09 Toolchain for more optimizations than the stock CM7 kernel
Kernel HZ set to 1000 for buttery-smoothnessitude
How to use it: Flash it through ClockworkMod recovery like you would any other ROM. After you've booted, get SetCPU here and then open it, switch your governor to conservative, and then set your min frequency to 100MHz.
Oh! Did I mention its fully opensource?! https://github.com/ytt3r/android_kernel_samsung has the stuff
Please report any issues you have with the kernel here
New website! http://goo.gl/ENJLC
Like it? Hit thanks or buy me some root beer!
Warning: The second you click the download link here (or here for the 256 HZ version you release me of any and all liability of emotional, physical, or metaphysical damage that this kernel may do to you or your phone, even though it was thoroughly tested.
#30
Changed kernel HZ to 1000 for buttery-smoothness and not much increased battery drain. Not like you'd worry about that on an overclocked kernel, right?
Compiled with Codesourcery's ARM-EABI 2010.09 Toolchain for more buttery-smoothness. How much more can it take?!
Looking forward to see where this goes!
Edit: I can only assume this is I9000 based bc all of the ROMS myself and others build are also I9000 based. Is that an appropriate assumption?
Is this compatible with fugu tweaks?
Particularly with Phoenix Ultimate
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Is this compatible with fugu tweaks?
Particularly with Phoenix Ultimate
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Fugu tweaks shouldn't be needed, it's buttery smooth and Gingerbread-y
What's it based on? Any color tweaks?
Edit: boo, it's for cm7
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Looking forward to see where this goes!
Edit: I can only assume this is I9000 based bc all of the ROMS myself and others build are also I9000 based. Is that an appropriate assumption?
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/me facepalms I forgot to mention CM7, should be edited now
downloading now
just wondering if it was necessary to disable to make work
So this is oc to 1400 and can not be adjusted using voltage control, just run with it
CM7
Sounds about right!
How does battery life with this kernel compare to the battery life of stock cm7 nightlies, or the battery life with TheEscapists OC-UV kernel?
So I'm a little curious.. how would you set what OC you want? Would you just set it to 1.3 or 1.4Ghz and not mess with UV settings at all?
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/me facepalms I forgot to mention CM7, should be edited now
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I thought I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in glee and were suddenly silenced.
Coreym said:
So I'm a little curious.. how would you set what OC you want? Would you just set it to 1.3 or 1.4Ghz and not mess with UV settings at all?
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Back on Froyo, my phone couldn't even handle 1300MHz, now it easily gets to 1400 and the battery life is plenty for me UV is not implemented yet.
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I thought I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
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lolwut?
More good stuff for CM7 . Thanks a lot for this release. Going to give it a shot.
Will this be updated with the nightlies? Are fixes like wifi sleep already implemented
CM7
No and yes respectively. I will release periodic updates though, with the latest from teamhacksung.
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So it it gonna be running 1.4Ghz all the time or will the frequencies only go to max when required?
You can set the CPU governor in SetCPU, as long as you don't set the frequencies.
In answer to your question, it defaults to ondemand. (So it varies based on how much power you need.)
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Ok so it is very hard to find dedicated threads to this and I think the more of us trying this and reporting back to one thread, the more successful we will be in achieving great battery life or performance (i do it for battery life)
Here's what i have found to work well today, just some simple adjustments but my battery didn't drop a single percent for about 1.5 hours of very light use(still great tho).
MAIN TAB
Setting the Scaling to: Conservative
Max: 1000MHz
Min: 100MHz
PROFILES TAB (i only have one profile set):
Screen off - Max: 400 (don't go lower, your phone wont wakeup)- Min: 100- conservative - Priority 50
ADVANCED TAB(minimal changes, but i feel they have helped a bit):
Sampling Rate: 20000
Up Thresh: 80
Down Thresh: 25
Ignore Nice: 0
Freq Step: 20
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These may not be the best settings as we will play guess n check, but thats the reason of this thread, lets figure these things out.
You need root permission's for this, correct?
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You need root permission's for this, correct?
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yessir you do
You should look into the smartass governor if you want to look for screen off frequencies. SetCPU only wastes CPU cycles for you to do this when a kernel can do it. Of course, I believe the end result is that you're still saving more battery, so at least it's a step forward
I'm overclocking 1.2 ghz. Switching between interactive and conservative.
Conservative has better battery life, but interactive is a bit snappier.
I'm new to the setcpu thing; gathered bits and pieces here and there to try and find the perfect settings.
Great thread though, hopefully people will post so we can take full advantage of this beast!
BTW, Tried to post screenshots, but I need more forum activity.
Had no success with conservative myself it allows the clock to step down to 100 eventhough I have the minimum at 200. The smart ass works like a charm no more lock screen lag
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teddybrukshut said:
I'm overclocking 1.2 ghz. Switching between interactive and conservative.
Conservative has better battery life, but interactive is a bit snappier.
I'm new to the setcpu thing; gathered bits and pieces here and there to try and find the perfect settings.
Great thread though, hopefully people will post so we can take full advantage of this beast!
BTW, Tried to post screenshots, but I need more forum activity.
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Hi. I am new to over clocking with SetCPU. How did you get it to go over the 1000 max? I don't understand all of the other settings enough to feel brave enough to change them other than the first tab.
Thanks
ArizonaLoco said:
Hi. I am new to over clocking with SetCPU. How did you get it to go over the 1000 max? I don't understand all of the other settings enough to feel brave enough to change them other than the first tab.
Thanks
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You have to flash a custom kernel (i recommend netarchy's kernel), then when you open setcpu, you can "autodetected recommended settings". You will then see the ability to overclock.
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Ok so it is very hard to find dedicated threads to this and I think the more of us trying this and reporting back to one thread, the more successful we will be in achieving great battery life or performance (i do it for battery life)
Here's what i have found to work well today, just some simple adjustments but my battery didn't drop a single percent for about 1.5 hours of very light use(still great tho).
MAIN TAB
Setting the Scaling to: Conservative
Max: 1000MHz
Min: 100MHz
PROFILES TAB (i only have one profile set):
Screen off - Max: 400 (don't go lower, your phone wont wakeup)- Min: 100- conservative - Priority 50
ADVANCED TAB(minimal changes, but i feel they have helped a bit):
Sampling Rate: 20000
Up Thresh: 80
Down Thresh: 25
Ignore Nice: 0
Freq Step: 20
These may not be the best settings as we will play guess n check, but thats the reason of this thread, lets figure these things out.
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i used following profiles and UV settings...
still looking into it though...
http://caleb1783.tistory.com/196
I'm not using setcpu. It causes launcher pro to freak out for me. Installed CPU master and all is perfect. Running matr1x 7.5 @1.3 jiggawatts with the smartass v2 governer. Also I'm on gpa17 at the moment.
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Ok I need to narrow down if I'm doing something wrong, or if my phone is actually faulty.
I have the latest Virtuous Affinity Rom, and installed OC/UV Beater, and I cannot seem to find a stable setting, and after using the VDD/OC reset .zip's that are supposed to reset everything to normal, I still have the issues.
I'm new to the whole OC the phone thing, can someone tell me if my voltages are far off what they should be for my phone.
ALSO could anyone supply me with their virgin (or stable working) files from their MT4G found in the sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ folder so I can double check mine?
It seems below the 537600mhz is where I'm unstable. I stress tested 3 freq at a time and went down the list, that's where I would get the issues.
My OC settings in OC/UV Beater are:
Wake Gov: ondemand
Wake Min: 122000
Wake Max: 1459200
Sleep Gov: conservative
Sleep Min: 122000
Sleep Max: 460800
VDD:
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I can think of 2 things.
1) Your wake min is WAY too low. That alone could be the issue.
2) Try bumping the voltage on higher frequencies up a notch.
Asking us if your voltages are ok is asking us a question we can't answer. Always start with default voltages. If that gives you stability VERY slowly adjust your voltage down a notch at a time, allowing time and testing between each setting. Never set on boot until you're SURE it's stable.
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I can think of 2 things.
1) Your wake min is WAY too low. That alone could be the issue.
2) Try bumping the voltage on higher frequencies up a notch.
Asking us if your voltages are ok is asking us a question we can't answer. Always start with default voltages. If that gives you stability VERY slowly adjust your voltage down a notch at a time, allowing time and testing between each setting. Never set on boot until you're SURE it's stable.
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Thanks for that. I understand what you are saying as I have been overclocking my PC for years, however, what I don't understand is why does OC/UV Beater2 seem to not be stable at all stock clocks and voltages when I stress test.
I have now gotten 1.5Ghz through 537600mhz stable, however, I cannot get 460mhz through 122mhz stable at stock volts, but it is stable with the voltage boost I have added. I'm curious to see if maybe my default voltage settings have gotten corrupted or misconfigured, that's why I am looking for someone to fill me in on the stock VDD and Freq for my cpu.
Also looking for advice as to what I have set there is normal voltage for the frequencies there?
Just looked at mine on cm 7.2. Your voltages look a little low across rhe board. Clear the data on oc/uv beater and reflash your kernel.
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Awesome, when you get a chance could you give me some screen shots of your voltages or tell me how much more yours are boosted?
Well, I'm on a different ROM now, but maybe this will help you. The voltages on this kernel are pretty low.
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