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Sprint service center cannot downgrade your phone

Well after a little discussion yesturday in the root thread about whether or not sprint can downgrade your phone after the 2.1 update I went ahead and called them and they said that it could be done. I actually called first to the sprint service center and they said it could be done. So I went down there today and talked in person to the tech and he told me that it can't be done. So wasted an hour case closed

just a thought, but if the guys here havent figured out how to downgrade hboot, what makes anyone think that sprint would be able to?

wtphoto said:
just a thought, but if the guys here havent figured out how to downgrade hboot, what makes anyone think that sprint would be able to?
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They have the source, and release keys. They can do whatever they want like make you wait six months for a very terrible update just to make you buy a new phone and then blame it on the hardware the same hardware that's going into the mytouch slide which will be running froyo. But the consumers don't know any better so they just buy a new phone

I have been there, the told me it can't be done so i made radioshack give me a new phone since i really wasn't happy with the 2.1

iliapiano said:
I have been there, the told me it can't be done so i made radioshack give me a new phone since i really wasn't happy with the 2.1
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If I wasn't giving it to my girlfriend tomorrow then I would send it to them and have them "fix it" or give me a new one I still got the box they sent me but i figure its not worth the hassle I still got one with root.

thatguythatdid said:
They have the source, and release keys. They can do whatever they want like make you wait six months for a very terrible update just to make you buy a new phone and then blame it on the hardware the same hardware that's going into the mytouch slide which will be running froyo. But the consumers don't know any better so they just buy a new phone
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Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............

chfields said:
Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
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I can't stand the goddamn weather animations. Makes my phone unresponsive to touch when it first wakes up, and I can't figure out how to turn them off.

delete the clock widget, and when you add it again, after choosing clock style then city, it gives you the option to check full screen animations, just uncheck it.

danaff37 said:
delete the clock widget, and when you add it again, after choosing clock style then city, it gives you the option to check full screen animations, just uncheck it.
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HUZZAH!!!!

abcdfv said:
I can't stand the goddamn weather animations. Makes my phone unresponsive to touch when it first wakes up, and I can't figure out how to turn them off.
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Yeah I'm not a fan of them either would rather have live wallpapers. "Oh my god it's gonna be cloudy and I know cuz clouds just rolled across my screen" . Yeah ridiculous.
On another note I
cheffields said:
Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
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So much I can say but I just llike to have the option of taking and removing what I like (Hate sprint nascar) personalizing icons and so fourth a2sd.......... I could go on but really froyo and gingerbread is all I really need to say

thatguythatdid said:
Yeah I'm not a fan of them either would rather have live wallpapers. "Oh my god it's gonna be cloudy and I know cuz clouds just rolled across my screen" . Yeah ridiculous.
On another note I So much I can say but I just llike to have the option of taking and removing what I like (Hate sprint nascar) personalizing icons and so fourth a2sd.......... I could go on but really froyo and gingerbread is all I really need to say
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Basically what the other guy said, u not being able to root is the reason ur throwing a tantrum. Nothing is wrong with the update but the ability to do something that its normally forbidden.

I'll just throw in an "I told ya so"

Well I want to downgrade because the damn Bluetooth won't work with 2. 1
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thedro said:
Well I want to downgrade because the damn Bluetooth won't work with 2. 1
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Neither does 87 gas in a racecar. Look for one thats compatible

Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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thedro said:
Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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hahah, wow.

thedro said:
Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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Then u r sol my friend. Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone

DirtyShroomz said:
Then u r sol my friend. Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone
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First you post about wanting something that's normally forbidden...aka ROOT !
Then you just post and tell him "Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone "
So what is it?....... you like root or it disgusts you? Can't have it both ways.
And the ability to USE bluetooth with a new phone, either rooted or NORMALLY the way it should be is EXPECTED when we pay for them.
But I'm sure the guy welcomes your SOL attitude......

bubbacs1 said:
First you post about wanting something that's normally forbidden...aka ROOT !
Then you just post and tell him "Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone "
So what is it?....... you like root or it disgusts you? Can't have it both ways.
And the ability to USE bluetooth with a new phone, either rooted or NORMALLY the way it should be is EXPECTED when we pay for them.
But I'm sure the guy welcomes your SOL attitude......
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My phones rooted buddy. I'm talking about the OP complaining because he says 2.1 sucks because he can't do functions that root allow him to do. Reading comprehension > u
As far as my attitude, nothing wrong with my attitude. Some things are NOT compatible with others, plain and simple. Doesn't matter what phone you pay for, it does not mean every bluetooth ever invented will be compatible with the phone. You pay for the phone service, and you have phone service. Your cars bluetooth doesn't work with it? Sorry, i'm sure HTC wasn't thinking PRIUS when they made 2.1.
As a worker for Sprint I hate coming to these forums and hearing people complain about things that have nothing to do with Sprint and then reading about how they can "cheat" Sprint or how disgusted they are with them when it's not even Sprint. Why am I disgusted you ask? Cause all the BS customers that constantly complain come to my department (retention). I don't care what ppl do with their stuff, but don't complain when it's not needed.

Okay first things first I have two phones one with root one without. So this issue is just something that got out of hand. Just gonna touch on some things:
DirtyShroomz said:
Basically what the other guy said, u not being able to root is the reason ur throwing a tantrum. Nothing is wrong with the update but the ability to do something that its normally forbidden.
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Actually I was quite calm when I wrote that. All I hear is blah blah blah. I like how you try to put yourself in a higher position than me by demeaning me and overexaggerating my statements to twist them into what you want people to think I meant.
regaw_leinad said:
I'll just throw in an "I told ya so"
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LOL thanks
DirtyShroomz said:
My phones rooted buddy. I'm talking about the OP complaining because he says 2.1 sucks because he can't do functions that root allow him to do. Reading comprehension > u
As far as my attitude, nothing wrong with my attitude. Some things are NOT compatible with others, plain and simple. Doesn't matter what phone you pay for, it does not mean every bluetooth ever invented will be compatible with the phone. You pay for the phone service, and you have phone service. Your cars bluetooth doesn't work with it? Sorry, i'm sure HTC wasn't thinking PRIUS when they made 2.1.
As a worker for Sprint I hate coming to these forums and hearing people complain about things that have nothing to do with Sprint and then reading about how they can "cheat" Sprint or how disgusted they are with them when it's not even Sprint. Why am I disgusted you ask? Cause all the BS customers that constantly complain come to my department (retention). I don't care what ppl do with their stuff, but don't complain when it's not needed.
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Okay the only reason that I posted this was to stop the conversation in the root section. Also to confirm that sprint service centers can't downgrade the bootloader. Second thing I want to touch on is when I did this there were no fake or harassing conversations with employees I was very polite. Why would I be a **** to people that I go out of my way to look for reasons to talk to? Them and tmobile reps. Also I bought phone insurance from radioshack and was promised everything under the sun and told the guy how finnicky I am about my phone and was straight up honest with him and things that were likely to happen to it. You know what he said, "it's okay there's ways around that kind of stuff to get it handled". Now I'm out 125 and I could get a new phone through their policy got the box sitting about three maybe four feet from me but I'm not gonna.
By the way sprint does suck. They aren't as bad as at&t. And before you say why not leave them. Because I can't right because for other reasons that our my business

Friend got the new market place

Back story.. So my friend and I got our phones the same day both samsung epics running stock 2.1. I am rooted and have some basic knowledge about our phones, he has no knowledge about root or anything android related. Well I saw his phone today and he has the new market place (2.3 look) while mine has the new tabs for comment and related. We are both on stock 2.1 same hardware and everything. Why would and how would his get the new one. He didn't install it. It just showed up for him about 4 days ago. It was bugging me and figured you guys could inform me on what's going on.
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Stuff rolls out at different times. Its hard to figure out when stuff like that will hit individuals.

Or u could have came here and got it in 5 secs
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My phone updated the market itself

musclehead84 said:
My phone updated the market itself
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Sometimes you get lucky and get it right away. Sometimes you wait a long ass time. Its a roll of the dice.

Yeah I'm not worried about it I was just curious. Thanks.

New software sprint has

Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like ciq.
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Sounds like ciq.
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Yup.
But who cares about the baseband? It's just the modem version.

Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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fury15 said:
Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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More information would be appreciated. Name of the software, how it's connecting, etc.

Only thing I know is the tool I use to check it... Its the thing that auto activates you're device so I don't know much
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Whoa sprint gonna start crackin down on the roots? J/k just kuz I highly doubt they really care all that much...
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*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.

pixlz said:
*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.
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They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.

I had my external speaker go out and took it up to the Sprint store to get the speaker replaced. The tech asked me if I rooted it, but he didn't have a problem with that.
The problem I had was that replacing the speaker screwed up the phone somehow so I had to re-flash. Meaning it wouldn't boot properly. But that is another story.

bender_123 said:
They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.
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So they knew just from you calling on that rooted phone that you had a custom ROM on there? Wow, not too bad.

OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )

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Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like you left out a lot of information:
1. How do you know this? Is this something that happened to you or is this heresay / speculation?
2. Was this done on Stock phone or one with SRF/Bonsai (with no ciq?)?

TexasEpic4GUser said:
OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )
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I could care less about the Intercept...that damn thing can burn in a pit...which may actually help it function better than it currently does.
Not sure if they have a system or not, but I laughed that the dude knew the only way it works is with a custom ROM. I have Ubentdroid on it and at least the capacitive buttons work now.
If you can't tell, I would not recommend the Intercept. It sucks more than the suckiest suck that ever sucked.

This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.

DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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+1 on this

DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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Sometimes its an issue that isnt a biggie, so unroot is a waste of time. With my wifes, it was that her phone stopped being recognized on Sprint service. It ended up being an account screw up.

Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)

DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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EXACTLY! why take a chance? especially if you have lost/stolen protection, you don't want to give them a reason to screw you over. good to know they can figure it out over the phone as well tho. hopefully they stay content letting people root away w/ no consequence except for a voided warranty, considering all the reasons they give customers for rooting (CIQ, DRM, ect...)

Overstew said:
Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)
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Baseband is your modem version...
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Try to get a new phone.

Last week my wife and I went to a sprint store because her moment was having problems. The person there offered her a different phone but out of the list her phone was the best. I have read about people getting different phone by complaining about the epic and with all of its problem. I do have insurence on my phone. I was wondering what people think my chance of getting a differnt phone is? I have had it replaced once. I have been really happy with the dev community here and if samsung had programmers half as good as the ones here we would see ICS on our phone by the end of the year. Also does anyone know what the other phone options are available for a replacement for the epic?
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Also not looking for an insurance fraud case to swap. Saw that with one of these threads before.
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it depends on the manager at the time. when my samsung moment was going out(which has flash) non of the phones offered did. i begged, just poked my head in 3 times a week to see if they chagned the list. i know i bugged, but if i wanted no flash i would have stuck with my treo 755p.
in short it really depends who is there help you, if you complain, the squeaking wheel gets the oil first as my dad says.
i went from moment to transform btw

I know going in to the store means going back to stock. Does anyone know if I can do this over the phone with sprint?
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epic 4g is great for me

Paris6906 said:
I know going in to the store means going back to stock. Does anyone know if I can do this over the phone with sprint?
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it will take some time but is possible eventually. How far from stock are you currently? If it's just rooted with a different launcher they won't care most likely.

tubasteve said:
it depends on the manager at the time. when my samsung moment was going out(which has flash) non of the phones offered did. i begged, just poked my head in 3 times a week to see if they chagned the list. i know i bugged, but if i wanted no flash i would have stuck with my treo 755p.
in short it really depends who is there help you, if you complain, the squeaking wheel gets the oil first as my dad says.
i went from moment to transform btw
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Did adobe rewrite flash player to support the Samsung moment? I'm 100% sure that the moment's chipset does not support flash that's why I got an epic. But html5 works fine on the moment which I found out about 2 months ago.
but if flash does work can you post a link to where you got flash from? I searched on sdx and they all confirmed flash doesn't work.

If I remember correctly it will work, just not ideally. The jit compiler was not optimized for Flash support on Eclair, but it would function. This is all fuzzy, someone please correct me if necessary.

[Humor] I remember when...(your noob days)

A little background before I begin. To be honest, all throughout Elementary, Middle School, and my first three years of Highschool, I never had a phone. There was no need for me to have one, and if I did need it, I'd call from the office, or a friend's cell. Plus I never lived too far from school to simply walk.
Junior year near my birthday was when my sisters, and mom surprised me with a "phone" it was one of those Nokia Phones that were very simple, with only skydiver, bowling, and backgammon for "fun". I was so pleased and glad, now i had my OWN number, now if a girl asked me for it, I had something for her to write down instead of lamely saying "sorry, i don't have one"
The phone probably lasted about 3 months until again, my family decided I didn't need one. Plus, I hardly used it and they didn't want to pay another bill.
Senior year, my mother gifted me a Blackberry 8130 (Business Edition) with the backlit keys. The provider was Cbeyond. I felt like such a pro, now I had a corporate device, with business service, and I felt good. That was short lived as well, apparently calls and texting weren't free and my mom had to cancel the $700 bill.
After High-School Graduation, I immediately began to work. (so much for vacations)
With my own money, I bought a cheap 100 dumb-phone from MetroPCS, a popular provider aimed at MetroPolitan areas, similar to Cricket for those who haven't heard of them. Without getting too personal, let's just say I partied too heavily one day and destroyed the phone.
Bought myself a Touch Pro 2 off craigslist from someone who was "moving" to Android. I didn't care what this Android OS he was switching to was, I was too busy being mesmerized by the eye-candy Sense running on Windows Phone 6. I got geeked up at the idea of having eye-candy Sense, and a Windows Phone in one that I now felt like my phone was a computer.
I was happy until i noticed it was laggy, and when i tried looking for apps, (The best app on there was probably Youtube.) or updates, it was very limited, and was sad to find out that support was being dropped. Nonetheless, I made the best of it, that's where I began using programming tools like cdma workshop and qpst. Didn't take long for me to figure out how to run it on MetroPCS. Another thing that captivated me about the phone was the KEYBOARD. I thought how genius it was to have something so handy, conveniently built right in. I learned about the "Xandroid" project, and was in love with Android running on my outdated windows phone. I learned to like and understand the efficiency of having an Android phone and soon wanted to look for one. I had noticed all over forums online that people had dropped my phone, and went over to the "Epic" I remember thinking how funny of a title that was, but I didn't pay too much attention to it, nor did I bother looking it up.
Wasn't till October 2011 that I decided to look for an Android phone on google, then search for its price on craigslist. I remember thinking how much of a headache it was to look for one, there were SO many phones, and I didn't know what to pick, my sister had recently bought the Evo, and being a Mexican with pride, I didn't want to piggy-back and get the same phone, but something that rivaled the Evo. To show my sister how much cooler my phone was. I came across the Samsung Captivate and Vibrant, loved the screens, and the phones looked nice. Went to craigslist, made the deal, when i met up with the seller, he said he didn't bring the phone.
I was like "wtf?, so you came three hours away from where you live, asking me to bring my money, just so you show up without it?" He said "Listen, I've got a better phone to offer you, and for the same price, unlike the deal i offered you, this one is BRAND-NEW" Turned out he was an authorized dealer and the phone was the Samsung Epic 4G.
I felt the smoothness of the case as i took it out of its box. I turned the phone on, being the first time I had ever seen a SuperAMOLED screen, and needing glasses, the brightness from the Samsung Bootup logo made my eyes squint. I had found my phone. The responsiveness blew the TouchPro2 out of the water, and while I tried to keep my cool in front of the seller, i pretended like it wasn't anything special. I ended up making the purchase, getting it flashed to MetroPCS, moving away from Texas, and re-programming it to Virgin Mobile here in Oregon.
And that's my Cell-Phone life story. Why did I share that? I don't know, but trust me, I appreciate my phone ALOT. So for you noobs out there that simply bought it and don't see what's so great, it's a big step-up, cherish it.
NOW back to the Humor!
I remember when I had my Touch Pro 2 and I saw that it had an app that said XDA, and this weird talk about root, and seeing a post with people saying, "good thing my phone's rooted!"
And I thought to myself, hm... I don't know what this root thing is, but obviously, it means backing up your phone's information to this Xda-Developer's Site on a backup server or something. Eh. Guess Rooting is handy.

I remember when I searched adult things on the android market with my old HeroC and wanted to erase the search history then found out about rooting online after a Google search

I remember when I flashed a leaked Froyo build just for the new Youtube UI

I remember posting in Dec sec for help I think
I also pmed noobnl for help cause I got computer ... triangle ... phone very early doing something
I can't remember
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I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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xopher.hunter said:
I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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I remember having done the same thing. And Numus was the one who first taught me how to root over at SDX.
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xopher.hunter said:
I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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Yess awwful lol the phone itself as well haha. I remember when we could easily cook a rom ourselves and themes were really easy to use as well
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Yess awwful lol the phone itself as well haha. I remember when we could easily cook a rom ourselves and themes were really easy to use as well
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Still can. Roms are easy to winzip
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I started out on Qwest Wireless on the oldest and crappiest phone I'd ever seen. But hey, it had a camera...which was the bees knees. Then when Qwest merged with Verizon, I got the LG Voyager. Pretty dumb phone looking back, but the keyboard was top notch. That was when my uncle walked up with this fancy new cell phone. He called it his "Android". It turned out to be the T-Mobile G1. I played around with it and well...that was the end of that. I was hell bent on my next phone being Android powered. Note this thing was running Cupcake. That's how big a step up it was. I researched and researched for months and months until sometime mid-summer 2010. When I saw...it. 4" screen, full qwerty keyboard, Android 2.1, and so much more. It was...Epic. And I knew what I had to do. So I convinced my mother to switch to Sprint from Verizon so I could have it. And here we are.
Then Randy Shear taught me how to root and I flashed the latest ROMs. This was back before I knew that you could swap system files from other ROMs and benchmarks meant the world. I went with Viper ROM because it had the latest music player(you could toggle it from the notification area!). Eventually I settled on Bonsai and Rodderik released a 2.2 kernel that could overclock to 1.2GHZ! BEFORE SOURCE! WOWZERS! Then I met qbking77(on the BakedSnack threads lol) and joined ACS. It all seems so far away.
I remember when everything dev I'm doing now seemed impossible. I remember when iSaint wasn't a troll(HA!). I remember getting MIUI 1.3.5 up with Mike_77, asdfghjkl, raymond and fusingblackrose. I remember when joining the Syndicate mattered. I remember when I started my first thread and got torn up by a developer. When we prided ourselves on having no development but a great community...and hated the EVO even more so than now.
While there may be new phones and different operating systems, I will always remember and cherish the Epic 4G community for what it was, what it is, and what it will be. Thank you everyone! Old and new!
**I am so going to copy/paste that for my goodbye thread.
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darkierawr said:
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While there may be new phones and different operating systems, I will always remember and cherish the Epic 4G community for what it was, what it is, and what it will be. Thank you everyone! Old and new!
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I nominate this for post of the year
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Zeinzu said:
I remember having done the same thing. And Numus was the one who first taught me how to root over at SDX.
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Lmao at SDX! I remember that site, you guys helped me out alot.. Thanks!
Memories.. hmm..
I remember when the Epic was a "forgotten" phone and people would complain and the devs and vets would just say be patient.. Patience is a virtue, because now I have 3 ICS roms to choose from!
Back further I remember when XDA didn't have much CDMA work going so I had to go between here SDX and PPCGeeks lol I'll have to log in and check how those guys are doing..
Back further I remember getting Android on my PPC-6800 aka the "Mogul" aka the iPhone Killer lol.. Having that phone was a big deal back then lol
And back even further I remember flashing my first rom on a PPC-6700 Apache which may be the last smartphone to have a freakin antennae on it!
Good times thanks to all of the great devs who have helped me out over the years..

I remember learning about xda from my friend's dad when he was rooting my friend's captivate then wanting to root my epic.
I remember when I first rooted without the one click (the root method by joeykrim and noobnl) and then using my phone stock rooted keeping my bloatware and everything. I tried getting clockwork mod but there were like 10 scripts called things like "usethisifthefirstandsecondandthirddontwork.bat" and I was just too confused. I eventually took the plunge and wanted to go on dk28. I odined to it and then flashed the viper rom.
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Lol I used to trick people into thinking I had ICS ( 1 month before it came out) when I was on the intercept XD I wud just change my build nukber to say ice cream sandwich and the version to be like 4.0.1 and like every week id change the last decimal and add 1 to make it look like I was getting updates hahaha. I'm glad I dnt have to do that anymore
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I remember when I first got my Samsung Moment with cupcake on it. I was jealous of my older brother with his old Touchpro who would flash different roms. So I used google to look for custom roms for the Samsung Moment. I ended up a site called SDX-Developers, I found the first rom made by Calkulin. Reading through the instructions which were linked to instructions by joeykrim which than I ended up rooting my phone putting his reocvery on the moment. Now I am able to compile a rom, debloat roms before flashing them.

I remember when I had got the Samsung moment when it came out and I was told about rooting the phone I spent 3 months trying to figure it out and never got it man I felt so dumb lol
Epic 4g, CM9 Beta, EL30, Shadow

crazymadbaby said:
I remember when I had got the Samsung moment when it came out and I was told about rooting the phone I spent 3 months trying to figure it out and never got it man I felt so dumb lol
Epic 4g, CM9 Beta, EL30, Shadow
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I think we vastly improve our skills as we begin to sharpen them, second and third time round is always faster.
Repgrogramming my first phone to a different carrier first took me 1 week to figure out with a guide,
Reprogramming second time through, without a guide to go by took 9 hours to figure out on my own.
Third time through took under 30 mins, mostly for protocol, checking and making sure everything is functional.
Rooting took like 20 mins of thorough reading first time through for me.
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I remember the Moment as my first phone I ever rooted, over on sdx. I was always in a battle trying to top Zeinzu's desktop wallpapers
I also remember when Zanderman112 wouldnt root, so many other things will never be forgotten, along with this entire epic community.
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My first phone that I modded was the T-mobile Wing. Lol. And SDX is still there and kicking. Most is just a copy from here now. The moment was getting 2.3. Lmao. That poor phone. This has been one of the best group of ppl. If not the best on XDA. Our forums are the cleanest, respected, and everyone knows everyone and gets along. I go look into other phones and I wanna just go off on them. Like wtf, its so bad the search button says fu I'm not touching that. I hope we move to a newer phone together. ;0) We've all noobed together.

This is such an awesome thread.
And nova...give me a new SuperNova! I won't use it. But I want it to exist. Collab with me on Mortify or something!
I remember using SuperNova back when DK28 had just come around. It had THE BEST boot animation ever. It didn't score the highest...back when scores mattered...but the dev was a cool guy and that was good enough for me. And he had the most ADDONS! LOVE THE ADDONS!
Oh and I remember flashing Syndicate ROM and BakedSnack 1.3 and saying "Wow these are almost as fast as DK28!" Even though they were probably much slower.

xopher.hunter said:
I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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This times 100.
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