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It seems like the custom ROMs out right now are for the international version, right?
There should be ROMs coming for US-specific (IE, Vibrant), correct? I just don't want to get something I cannot customize. What scares me is that Samsung will update it to 2.2 and not release 3.0 later on?
Coming from the Touch Pro 2 scene where there are lots of variations as well, there should be roms that are compatible with multiple handsets and even some geared towards specific phones. Additional add-ons might be required for button layouts or something but I'm not sure how it works since I am speaking with experience only in the Windows Mobile area.
Regarding the update, it's really hard to tell since we don't even have the 2.2 update yet. But hopefully, they'll continue to support the Galaxy S as it's Samsung's direct iPhone competitor.
We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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We should be able to flash any firmware for the galaxy s including the modaco rom. The real question is will we be able to get a hacked recovery to stick like amon_ra or cynogen ? Ps my phone comes this week im freaking excited!!
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I'm excited to and I'm exited to be apart of building the vibrant section hopefully can atleast beat out the captivate and fascinate page
Thursday morning I'm waking up early and picking this baby up. I hope we can gain root the same way as the international version.
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same going to be at the store 9 am to pick it up then head straight to xda for a root and a cfw that would be a dream
Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
That would be so awesome. I really don't care about samsung supporting this phone, as long as they let devs do their thing. Meaning not to lock up anything ala droid x
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9am est on Thur July 15th.. It will be mine
It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
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It doesn't matter if they don't officially update it to 3.0, when there is root, there is a way!
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not nessecarily true lol, take a look at the Motorola Milestone for an example, they have had root for a long time now, but cant load a custom rom due to an encrypted bootloader.
That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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Hopefully the source code that was released by Samsung for the Galaxy S is the same for the Vibrant, which I see no reason why it would change but it is Samsung. If it is, I will help to port CM6 over to the Vibrant. The source code from Samsung that I downloaded yesterday has from what I could see with my quick glance over the drivers (baseband, sound, screen, etc) that would be needed to bake up a custom ROM.
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If the drivers are there, 90% of the work is done. We'll have the latest roms (barring some unlikely extreme performance requirements).
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That's why I'm saying that if samsung doesn't do it, let the community have what it needs to do it themselves, look at cyan. My g1 should've been obsolete a year ago, but on the contrary its as strong as it was when I first rooted it.
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Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Can the bootloader be unlocked?
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It's really easy to root the vibrant
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Second that. Took me 1 minute. Maybe less, LOL. Running tests, everything seems to be working, SU permisions et al.
Not sure on boot, but it seems that Samsung didn't even try to make it hard.
I went back to winmo for a while, and while the HD2 community is great, have to say glad to be back on android.
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Haven't checked in a while but the Behold 2 was a pain in the ass to root. And Samsung said that they didn't want people hacking their phones. That was a few months ago, since I don't have the phone I haven't checked back. I'm getting this bad boy and hopefully there will be a lot of support for it.
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The behold 2 wasn't too bad to root me and kam187 had it rooted shortly after it launched. The custom roms part was the hard part lol.
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The fact that modaco has a custom ROM out indicates that it's probably going to be fairly easy for us.
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
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Thanks for the link!
I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck
I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........
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I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like ciq.
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Sounds like ciq.
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Yup.
But who cares about the baseband? It's just the modem version.
Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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More information would be appreciated. Name of the software, how it's connecting, etc.
Only thing I know is the tool I use to check it... Its the thing that auto activates you're device so I don't know much
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Whoa sprint gonna start crackin down on the roots? J/k just kuz I highly doubt they really care all that much...
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*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.
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*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.
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They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.
I had my external speaker go out and took it up to the Sprint store to get the speaker replaced. The tech asked me if I rooted it, but he didn't have a problem with that.
The problem I had was that replacing the speaker screwed up the phone somehow so I had to re-flash. Meaning it wouldn't boot properly. But that is another story.
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They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.
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So they knew just from you calling on that rooted phone that you had a custom ROM on there? Wow, not too bad.
OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )
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Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like you left out a lot of information:
1. How do you know this? Is this something that happened to you or is this heresay / speculation?
2. Was this done on Stock phone or one with SRF/Bonsai (with no ciq?)?
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OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )
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I could care less about the Intercept...that damn thing can burn in a pit...which may actually help it function better than it currently does.
Not sure if they have a system or not, but I laughed that the dude knew the only way it works is with a custom ROM. I have Ubentdroid on it and at least the capacitive buttons work now.
If you can't tell, I would not recommend the Intercept. It sucks more than the suckiest suck that ever sucked.
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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Sometimes its an issue that isnt a biggie, so unroot is a waste of time. With my wifes, it was that her phone stopped being recognized on Sprint service. It ended up being an account screw up.
Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)
DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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EXACTLY! why take a chance? especially if you have lost/stolen protection, you don't want to give them a reason to screw you over. good to know they can figure it out over the phone as well tho. hopefully they stay content letting people root away w/ no consequence except for a voided warranty, considering all the reasons they give customers for rooting (CIQ, DRM, ect...)
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Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)
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Baseband is your modem version...
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Anyone know why when I tried to open a network support ticket they are detecting I'm on a mikfroyo rom. I changed Roms so many times the past 6months.. so what the hell is up with that:
They even said you have to be on a official Rom.. man how they detect this info is pretty funny. And how wrong it is.
But any way to fix that issue
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Why do you think they would give you support when you voided your warranty by rooting and installing another ROM?
I mean seriously...
I don't need support. I do wish to inform them of their network problem here... If so I have 8 other people with Sprint who are official.. who can report the network problem aswell ... Why would I need support if my phone is perfectly fine. And besides the fact I'm not running the Rom they are indicating I am...
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Again... think about it for a little bit. They don't know if you have 8 other people who are experiencing they same problem you are.
They're not going to waste their time with a problem that could be the result of a modded phone.
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Why do you think they would give you support when you voided your warranty by rooting and installing another ROM?
I mean seriously...
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You only voided your warranty with HTC, not sprint. I've taken my rooted/S-OFF device many times and have talked to the store reps and they have no policy against rooted devices. There is stores that will give you a hassle just to be lazy, meanwhile other stores will ask you to simply flash back to stock to help narrow down issues caused by software or hardware.
Oh so a version from stock that just has apps removed that ate considered bloated. So that can be a phone error. Dude I've flashed many roms kernels and radios and its the network. I'm not after phone support. I don't need a warranty on my Damn phone but I pay them for service via their towers if they have issues with it then they should fix their network problems. I will pay insurion if I have phone issues its why I have them.
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The guy just said to install a stock Rom and give him info. The guy was like okay 3rd party. You need to install stock . But he did agree there is probably a problem in the area.
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ANyways the guy said I should keep stock until testing is done well. Im on a modified stock rom etc (testing this rom out). Anyways is there a way to show them my software/build number as stock or whatever to fool them when i re provision it to update their system?
nemoid said:
Again... think about it for a little bit. They don't know if you have 8 other people who are experiencing they same problem you are.
They're not going to waste their time with a problem that could be the result of a modded phone.
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no they are not wasting their time providing CUSTOMER support to a paying CUSTOMER
How can Sprint finds out if your rooted with a custom Rom? Even they never saw the phone?
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culua said:
How can Sprint finds out if your rooted with a custom Rom? Even they never saw the phone?
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I used to Run Mikfroyo but the thing is I don't know how they know I was on a custom rom. Maybe when provision your phone it sends that data. Now I'm On a different rom but i was unaware how he knew. The guy *PinkElmo* basically just said to go back to stock ROM for the duration of the testing (sounds like he not only not has a problem with it but sounds like he uses custom as wellXD).
I'm still puzzled as to how they found out...
I also currently using mikfroyo 4.61. But I didn't start rooting after a month signing up.
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I also currently using mikfroyo 4.61. But I didn't start rooting after a month signing up.
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I had to provision a few months back though... But It Got me wondering. I have been downloading a stock rom at 199mb it should take roughly 2-8 hours on the Sprints NOW DialUp Network
Sprint has a program called OMA-DM. This program has all the information from the status section of your device. When I worked for sprint we would have customers update their data profile, this would send the information to the tool. The rep can then see what rom you are on. However this did not work on AOSP roms since they do not update the profile.
If you want to fool sprint update your profile under a stock unmodified rom, then flash to AOSP, the info for the sense rom would be still in the system.
Furthermore they can see if you have updated the profile, so if you tell them that you did they will be able to see if you actually did or not.. They are also able to view all the transactions with dates and times between your phone and the tool.
My advise to you is to suck it up and run the official rom until the testing is over, usually about a week.
Also sprint has no control over a custom rom, so they automatically have you update profile and firmware to the current version to ensure that the phone is working to their standards and things that they have control over.
TL;DR - Quit complaining and use a stock rom so sprint can do their testing.
The complaining in this thread has me puzzled. Run a stock Tom for them to test, reinstall favorite Tom when done...
Pao23 said:
The complaining in this thread has me puzzled. Run a stock Tom for them to test, reinstall favorite Tom when done...
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is your favorite "Tom" a "Tom Collins"? hahaha, sorry. i had to.
Thanks and for data profile. Just the one under updates? If so it would have shown mikg if clean rom I got a download of stock and was going to flash it when i can before Tuesday since Monday is a holiday...
Thanks for informing me how they detect what Rom your on.
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I imagine sprint can know quite a bit about your phone. When I had my diamond, (or maybe it was my Evo, I forget) something wasn't working right. I got on the phone with a tech, and he proceeded to to operate my phone while I was holding my phone. I could see the screen clicks, and him going from one menu to another, operating my phone remotely. Blew me away.
As for the monitoring SW mentioned earlier in this thread, does it read build prop values? Cuz I'm guessing that's how they get your device info.
Lastly, post 2 and 3 about not expecting sprint to work on/assess your rooted phone. BS. Sprint has given mixed signals about this. I know there have been internal memos released stating they now will honor rooted phones. I think lazyness is the culprit when a comes to CSRs or techs rejecting for root. I've always taken in my rooted phone and put a stockish rom on it first, when I have a hardware problem (blown speaker, broken screen, etc.)
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cmsjr123 said:
Thanks and for data profile. Just the one under updates? If so it would have shown mikg if clean rom I got a download of stock and was going to flash it when i can before Tuesday since Monday is a holiday...
Thanks for informing me how they detect what Rom your on.
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scottspa74 said:
I imagine sprint can know quite a bit about your phone. When I had my diamond, (or maybe it was my Evo, I forget) something wasn't working right. I got on the phone with a tech, and he proceeded to to operate my phone while I was holding my phone. I could see the screen clicks, and him going from one menu to another, operating my phone remotely. Blew me away.
As for the monitoring SW mentioned earlier in this thread, does it read build prop values? Cuz I'm guessing that's how they get your device info.
Lastly, post 2 and 3 about not expecting sprint to work on/assess your rooted phone. BS. Sprint has given mixed signals about this. I know there have been internal memos released stating they now will honor rooted phones. I think lazyness is the culprit when a comes to CSRs or techs rejecting for root. I've always taken in my rooted phone and put a stockish rom on it first, when I have a hardware problem (blown speaker, broken screen, etc.)
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They used an application call LogMeIn Rescue. It gives them the ability to remotely view/control a pc, windows or blackberry phone. Its actually a lot easier to do it for a customer more often then trying to walk them through it.
Yes the information displayed in the about phone section is stored in the build.prop.
As for the software; software plays a factor in how the device operates and communicates with the network. Sprint has designed the stock software on their devices to their standards. They know their software and how it works. Now take a custom rom, one that has be frankenstined together. How do you expect a company to properly troubleshoot and diagnose a problem that could very well be related to the customer software?
I totally agree with the laziness part on the Tech Reps, after working with the company for several years, Id have to say most of the reps were less educated or technically minded about the device that they were working with. I could not tell you how many times I would hear customers complain about the Tech Reps.
Going to a hardware issue, Custom software would not break the screen, blow a speaker, or otherwise cause physical damage to the device (with the exception of a battery). So these should have no effect on hardware warranty's or exchanges.
A little background before I begin. To be honest, all throughout Elementary, Middle School, and my first three years of Highschool, I never had a phone. There was no need for me to have one, and if I did need it, I'd call from the office, or a friend's cell. Plus I never lived too far from school to simply walk.
Junior year near my birthday was when my sisters, and mom surprised me with a "phone" it was one of those Nokia Phones that were very simple, with only skydiver, bowling, and backgammon for "fun". I was so pleased and glad, now i had my OWN number, now if a girl asked me for it, I had something for her to write down instead of lamely saying "sorry, i don't have one"
The phone probably lasted about 3 months until again, my family decided I didn't need one. Plus, I hardly used it and they didn't want to pay another bill.
Senior year, my mother gifted me a Blackberry 8130 (Business Edition) with the backlit keys. The provider was Cbeyond. I felt like such a pro, now I had a corporate device, with business service, and I felt good. That was short lived as well, apparently calls and texting weren't free and my mom had to cancel the $700 bill.
After High-School Graduation, I immediately began to work. (so much for vacations)
With my own money, I bought a cheap 100 dumb-phone from MetroPCS, a popular provider aimed at MetroPolitan areas, similar to Cricket for those who haven't heard of them. Without getting too personal, let's just say I partied too heavily one day and destroyed the phone.
Bought myself a Touch Pro 2 off craigslist from someone who was "moving" to Android. I didn't care what this Android OS he was switching to was, I was too busy being mesmerized by the eye-candy Sense running on Windows Phone 6. I got geeked up at the idea of having eye-candy Sense, and a Windows Phone in one that I now felt like my phone was a computer.
I was happy until i noticed it was laggy, and when i tried looking for apps, (The best app on there was probably Youtube.) or updates, it was very limited, and was sad to find out that support was being dropped. Nonetheless, I made the best of it, that's where I began using programming tools like cdma workshop and qpst. Didn't take long for me to figure out how to run it on MetroPCS. Another thing that captivated me about the phone was the KEYBOARD. I thought how genius it was to have something so handy, conveniently built right in. I learned about the "Xandroid" project, and was in love with Android running on my outdated windows phone. I learned to like and understand the efficiency of having an Android phone and soon wanted to look for one. I had noticed all over forums online that people had dropped my phone, and went over to the "Epic" I remember thinking how funny of a title that was, but I didn't pay too much attention to it, nor did I bother looking it up.
Wasn't till October 2011 that I decided to look for an Android phone on google, then search for its price on craigslist. I remember thinking how much of a headache it was to look for one, there were SO many phones, and I didn't know what to pick, my sister had recently bought the Evo, and being a Mexican with pride, I didn't want to piggy-back and get the same phone, but something that rivaled the Evo. To show my sister how much cooler my phone was. I came across the Samsung Captivate and Vibrant, loved the screens, and the phones looked nice. Went to craigslist, made the deal, when i met up with the seller, he said he didn't bring the phone.
I was like "wtf?, so you came three hours away from where you live, asking me to bring my money, just so you show up without it?" He said "Listen, I've got a better phone to offer you, and for the same price, unlike the deal i offered you, this one is BRAND-NEW" Turned out he was an authorized dealer and the phone was the Samsung Epic 4G.
I felt the smoothness of the case as i took it out of its box. I turned the phone on, being the first time I had ever seen a SuperAMOLED screen, and needing glasses, the brightness from the Samsung Bootup logo made my eyes squint. I had found my phone. The responsiveness blew the TouchPro2 out of the water, and while I tried to keep my cool in front of the seller, i pretended like it wasn't anything special. I ended up making the purchase, getting it flashed to MetroPCS, moving away from Texas, and re-programming it to Virgin Mobile here in Oregon.
And that's my Cell-Phone life story. Why did I share that? I don't know, but trust me, I appreciate my phone ALOT. So for you noobs out there that simply bought it and don't see what's so great, it's a big step-up, cherish it.
NOW back to the Humor!
I remember when I had my Touch Pro 2 and I saw that it had an app that said XDA, and this weird talk about root, and seeing a post with people saying, "good thing my phone's rooted!"
And I thought to myself, hm... I don't know what this root thing is, but obviously, it means backing up your phone's information to this Xda-Developer's Site on a backup server or something. Eh. Guess Rooting is handy.
I remember when I searched adult things on the android market with my old HeroC and wanted to erase the search history then found out about rooting online after a Google search
I remember when I flashed a leaked Froyo build just for the new Youtube UI
I remember posting in Dec sec for help I think
I also pmed noobnl for help cause I got computer ... triangle ... phone very early doing something
I can't remember
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I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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xopher.hunter said:
I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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I remember having done the same thing. And Numus was the one who first taught me how to root over at SDX.
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xopher.hunter said:
I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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Yess awwful lol the phone itself as well haha. I remember when we could easily cook a rom ourselves and themes were really easy to use as well
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Yess awwful lol the phone itself as well haha. I remember when we could easily cook a rom ourselves and themes were really easy to use as well
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Still can. Roms are easy to winzip
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I started out on Qwest Wireless on the oldest and crappiest phone I'd ever seen. But hey, it had a camera...which was the bees knees. Then when Qwest merged with Verizon, I got the LG Voyager. Pretty dumb phone looking back, but the keyboard was top notch. That was when my uncle walked up with this fancy new cell phone. He called it his "Android". It turned out to be the T-Mobile G1. I played around with it and well...that was the end of that. I was hell bent on my next phone being Android powered. Note this thing was running Cupcake. That's how big a step up it was. I researched and researched for months and months until sometime mid-summer 2010. When I saw...it. 4" screen, full qwerty keyboard, Android 2.1, and so much more. It was...Epic. And I knew what I had to do. So I convinced my mother to switch to Sprint from Verizon so I could have it. And here we are.
Then Randy Shear taught me how to root and I flashed the latest ROMs. This was back before I knew that you could swap system files from other ROMs and benchmarks meant the world. I went with Viper ROM because it had the latest music player(you could toggle it from the notification area!). Eventually I settled on Bonsai and Rodderik released a 2.2 kernel that could overclock to 1.2GHZ! BEFORE SOURCE! WOWZERS! Then I met qbking77(on the BakedSnack threads lol) and joined ACS. It all seems so far away.
I remember when everything dev I'm doing now seemed impossible. I remember when iSaint wasn't a troll(HA!). I remember getting MIUI 1.3.5 up with Mike_77, asdfghjkl, raymond and fusingblackrose. I remember when joining the Syndicate mattered. I remember when I started my first thread and got torn up by a developer. When we prided ourselves on having no development but a great community...and hated the EVO even more so than now.
While there may be new phones and different operating systems, I will always remember and cherish the Epic 4G community for what it was, what it is, and what it will be. Thank you everyone! Old and new!
**I am so going to copy/paste that for my goodbye thread.
Humor: Snoochie Boochies!
darkierawr said:
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While there may be new phones and different operating systems, I will always remember and cherish the Epic 4G community for what it was, what it is, and what it will be. Thank you everyone! Old and new!
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I nominate this for post of the year
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Zeinzu said:
I remember having done the same thing. And Numus was the one who first taught me how to root over at SDX.
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Lmao at SDX! I remember that site, you guys helped me out alot.. Thanks!
Memories.. hmm..
I remember when the Epic was a "forgotten" phone and people would complain and the devs and vets would just say be patient.. Patience is a virtue, because now I have 3 ICS roms to choose from!
Back further I remember when XDA didn't have much CDMA work going so I had to go between here SDX and PPCGeeks lol I'll have to log in and check how those guys are doing..
Back further I remember getting Android on my PPC-6800 aka the "Mogul" aka the iPhone Killer lol.. Having that phone was a big deal back then lol
And back even further I remember flashing my first rom on a PPC-6700 Apache which may be the last smartphone to have a freakin antennae on it!
Good times thanks to all of the great devs who have helped me out over the years..
I remember learning about xda from my friend's dad when he was rooting my friend's captivate then wanting to root my epic.
I remember when I first rooted without the one click (the root method by joeykrim and noobnl) and then using my phone stock rooted keeping my bloatware and everything. I tried getting clockwork mod but there were like 10 scripts called things like "usethisifthefirstandsecondandthirddontwork.bat" and I was just too confused. I eventually took the plunge and wanted to go on dk28. I odined to it and then flashed the viper rom.
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Lol I used to trick people into thinking I had ICS ( 1 month before it came out) when I was on the intercept XD I wud just change my build nukber to say ice cream sandwich and the version to be like 4.0.1 and like every week id change the last decimal and add 1 to make it look like I was getting updates hahaha. I'm glad I dnt have to do that anymore
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I remember when I first got my Samsung Moment with cupcake on it. I was jealous of my older brother with his old Touchpro who would flash different roms. So I used google to look for custom roms for the Samsung Moment. I ended up a site called SDX-Developers, I found the first rom made by Calkulin. Reading through the instructions which were linked to instructions by joeykrim which than I ended up rooting my phone putting his reocvery on the moment. Now I am able to compile a rom, debloat roms before flashing them.
I remember when I had got the Samsung moment when it came out and I was told about rooting the phone I spent 3 months trying to figure it out and never got it man I felt so dumb lol
Epic 4g, CM9 Beta, EL30, Shadow
crazymadbaby said:
I remember when I had got the Samsung moment when it came out and I was told about rooting the phone I spent 3 months trying to figure it out and never got it man I felt so dumb lol
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I think we vastly improve our skills as we begin to sharpen them, second and third time round is always faster.
Repgrogramming my first phone to a different carrier first took me 1 week to figure out with a guide,
Reprogramming second time through, without a guide to go by took 9 hours to figure out on my own.
Third time through took under 30 mins, mostly for protocol, checking and making sure everything is functional.
Rooting took like 20 mins of thorough reading first time through for me.
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I remember the Moment as my first phone I ever rooted, over on sdx. I was always in a battle trying to top Zeinzu's desktop wallpapers
I also remember when Zanderman112 wouldnt root, so many other things will never be forgotten, along with this entire epic community.
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My first phone that I modded was the T-mobile Wing. Lol. And SDX is still there and kicking. Most is just a copy from here now. The moment was getting 2.3. Lmao. That poor phone. This has been one of the best group of ppl. If not the best on XDA. Our forums are the cleanest, respected, and everyone knows everyone and gets along. I go look into other phones and I wanna just go off on them. Like wtf, its so bad the search button says fu I'm not touching that. I hope we move to a newer phone together. ;0) We've all noobed together.
This is such an awesome thread.
And nova...give me a new SuperNova! I won't use it. But I want it to exist. Collab with me on Mortify or something!
I remember using SuperNova back when DK28 had just come around. It had THE BEST boot animation ever. It didn't score the highest...back when scores mattered...but the dev was a cool guy and that was good enough for me. And he had the most ADDONS! LOVE THE ADDONS!
Oh and I remember flashing Syndicate ROM and BakedSnack 1.3 and saying "Wow these are almost as fast as DK28!" Even though they were probably much slower.
xopher.hunter said:
I remember when I rooted my samsung moment entirely because I wanted a live wallpaper which was disabled by default.
Those who had a moment will understand just how noobish it was to bog that phone down with a live wallpaper haha.
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This times 100.
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