Not sure if its official or obvious or both. But a someone working from Samsung told me that someone has just received official RC for Gingerbread for Galaxy S.
Sorry for the spam but wanted to share the joy that Samsung hasn't given up on 12 million Galaxy S users....yet.
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Sure Hope so! im getting tired of waiting around for samsung. It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.
Manufacturers need to start focusing on the total experience rather than hardware. (i would love to see how battery lives of next gen android phones compare)
rajuki said:
Not sure if its official or obvious or both. But a someone working from Samsung told me that someone has just received official RC for Gingerbread for Galaxy S.
Sorry for the spam but wanted to share the joy that Samsung hasn't given up on 12 million Galaxy S users....yet.
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Thanks for the news, but you have to be more explicit: are you talking about the asian, european or american market?
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ghazi.urfali said:
It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.
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HTC is better? The Desire came out at the same time as the Galaxy S around here (I chose between the two), and they are basically in the same spot we are. http://www.product-reviews.net/2011...htc-desire-owners-will-get-update-eventually/ Waiting for it to come...eventually. A quick search reveals the Incredible doesn't have it officially yet either.
At least us XDA'ers won't have to wait an eternity for carrier-specific releases. In Bell's case they will be months molesting 2.3 (and possibly screwing it up) even after Samsung is finished, but I won't be beholden to their whims.
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Thanks for the news, but you have to be more explicit: are you talking about the asian, european or american market?
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Well, this person works in Nordic division for Samsung so can't really say. My guess is European first. The word is that the release will take some time because Samsung received a lot of complaints for Froyo- so they want to do this one right and freeze the development for Galaxy S- consider it as a farewell gift from Samsung.
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Sure Hope so! im getting tired of waiting around for samsung. It's this type of customer service that makes me think of switching to an HTC for my next phone, even though i will miss out on dual core and high end video graphics.
Manufacturers need to start focusing on the total experience rather than hardware. (i would love to see how battery lives of next gen android phones compare)
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Mate, Grass is always greener on the other side- isn't it?
I honestly belive, that we will get 2.3 (and mabe some minor improvements within 2.3), but that will be our last update.
I think we well get 2.4 minor update
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Well, this person works in Nordic division for Samsung so can't really say. My guess is European first. The word is that the release will take some time because Samsung received a lot of complaints for Froyo- so they want to do this one right and freeze the development for Galaxy S- consider it as a farewell gift from Samsung.
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Damn it, just one year dev support for phones costing +500$
What a silly consumer world we're running
Do you really expect something great and/or new with 2.3 or 2.whatever??
There will be some other issues again. The battery is still the same, the display is the same, the button won't change, the scratches your devices already have won't go ... so ... what is it good for?!
My stock Galaxy S was ok for calling, sms, mails, and some enternmaint as it comes. So it did/does what they said. Switching to other ROM or adjusting this or that was born by some boring nights at work, just to see how the things are working. But no real need to change anything. So, if they will release another ROM - nice, but if not - who cares.
To have always the newest (is it always better?), the more shiny (unfortunaley it will be easier scratched), the more expensive (did you earn more money in the last past?), the glamour of modern style (do you really think a smartphone beams you to the rich und famous?) belongs exactly to:
What a silly consumer world we're running
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But it makes lots of fun to brick it and get it back to live again.
According to Eldar Murtazin from mobile-review.com 2.3 version should be in 2 months time for Galaxy S phones. At least in Europe.
Am I the only one relying so much on 2.3 fixing the sluggish interface to give us iOs/wp7 smoothness?
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Am I the only one relying so much on 2.3 fixing the sluggish interface to give us iOs/wp7 smoothness?
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No your not the only one. On paper the Galaxy S should be faster than the Desire (which i owned before Galaxy S). But it lags so much its terrible sometimes .. im even embarrased to show the phone to iPhone users.
The problem is the crappy RFS filesystem!!! (Google it). I hope they get rid of that stupid crap and switch to EXT2 or 4.
Sometimes the phone just doesnt react to anything .. and i end up hammering the thumb on the screen. But the phone is frozen for several seconds. Its so anoying!
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lol, you are kidding right? as far as i know no htc device has official gingerbread yet so ... i'd say if samsung is able to produce a RC yet they are definitely on track! also i prefer a a good and tested firmware over a buggy and unoptimized one like the first 2.2 firmwares.
and yep: I'm also looking forward with joy to a fantastic 2.3 firmware. i guess they improved a lot due to the production of the nexus s. although i'd prefer a stable release of cm7 ...
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No your not the only one. On paper the Galaxy S should be faster than the Desire (which i owned before Galaxy S). But it lags so much its terrible sometimes .. im even embarrased to show the phone to iPhone users.
The problem is the crappy RFS filesystem!!! (Google it). I hope they get rid of that stupid crap and switch to EXT2 or 4.
Sometimes the phone just doesnt react to anything .. and i end up hammering the thumb on the screen. But the phone is frozen for several seconds. Its so anoying!
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don't be embarrassed, just install the speedmod kernel by hardcore and it will be faster than all the stupid ios&wp7 devices of your friends together . beliefe me!
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don't be embarrassed, just install the speedmod kernel by hardcore and it will be faster than all the stupid ios&wp7 devices of your friends together . beliefe me!
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No kernel or ext4 tweaks will fix the lag on our phones, i've been trying everything since day one, its hopeless. The problem isn't just the rfs filesystem, its also touchwiz.
@peachpuff
Either you are stupid or you just like to complain...
My i9000 outperforms both my friends iphones and android devices in speed and smoothness. (ok, the iphones are a bit smoother... But it's still better than the androids)
Exept for the GPS, there is nothing wrong with the galaxy that can't be fixed by mods.
And so far, Samsung has a pretty good update record. All of their unlocked international phones have got updates as fast, or even faster than other OEM's.
Install js5 and speedmod.
Activate lagfix, and i can promis you it will kill the iphone.
And with fasterfix and GPSaids the GPS is really good to.
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I hope Samsung won't stop at 2.3
I am using a custom rom with speed mod my galaxy s is faster and smoother than ever. It scores almost 1500 on quadrant edition.
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Today i went to a android meet up in Utrecht Holland... There were a few employees from samsung Holland and they said to me that Froyo is going to be released late october early November here in holland. Because they want to do it right at once. .. And he also told me that the GPS will be updated separately. They got a whole team working on the GPS. So this not so nice to hear. But i look it on the bright side. . They are working on it really hard. They also said to me that they do care about the costumers. And they had also 5 galaxy tabs and i can tell you They rock! Quote of the evening : Samsung employee to mee with my Galaxy S in his hand :How the hell can you have a newer firmware then me. .. He got JPH...
Sent from my Spaceship!!!
just as i though, like on the joke poll "when will froyo be released"
i guessed on November/December
you'll see it's going to be a merry Xmas from samsung when they release Froyo on the 25 Dec
Let them take their sweet time, as long as they get it right
So now we are talking about oct/nov.. This is becoming the epix wait.
Well I'm like dying to have it but I'm one for quality then quickness. So if that's true I'm all for the wait.
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Well I'm like dying to have it but I'm one for quality then quickness. So if that's true I'm all for the wait.
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+1 here, I'd rather wait a couple of months for something that won't be unusable that get something now that we'll be constantly complaining over to get patches etc.
I just wish Samsung would be more open with us about these things rather than letting us down. I would respect them more if they'd just tell us straight rather than giving false/un-meetable deadlines.
The lesson learned here for me is that I won't buy a Samsung phone again. The HTC Desire got its update to Froyo a lot earlier. I mean by the time they release Froyo for the Galaxy Google probably has release Gingerbread. Guess we have to wait till June '11 or maybe forever for that...
I got myself blinded by the great hardware specs. But with any hardware it is useless without the proper software to it. I dont think I expect to much from a device I paid 450 EUR for...
When was Desire launched and when was Galaxy S?
Also, have you read about the delays of eclair for htc hero?
Anyway, my last htc phone was and will be htc hero (beside poor costumer support they have inferior hardware in comparison to motorola, samsung, etc)*.
Don't start me on Motorola Europe. Just look at their Facebook page. Be warned though it is almost entirely Adult rated and definitely not for those of a delicate nature.
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The lesson learned here for me is that I won't buy a Samsung phone again. The HTC Desire got its update to Froyo a lot earlier. I mean by the time they release Froyo for the Galaxy Google probably has release Gingerbread. Guess we have to wait till June '11 or maybe forever for that...
I got myself blinded by the great hardware specs. But with any hardware it is useless without the proper software to it. I dont think I expect to much from a device I paid 450 EUR for...
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I understand what you are going through, But you must rememeber that the HTC Desire is a clone of the Google Nexus One, THE DEVELOPEMENT PHONE. so OF CAUSE the htc Desire gets the goodies first. Myself I'm pissed off that Froyo disn't have a optimized JIT for Hummingbird cpu! grrrrr.. Frankly I don't care if Froyo comes out anymore as I just wanted the JIT optimized like the Snapdragon cpu's . Also I'm hell thankful for not buying a X10, They still havn't even updated to 2.1 YET! so when (if) we SGS people are playing with Froyo (be it broken) they will finally get 2.1! heheh
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I understand what you are going through, But you must rememeber that the HTC Desire is a clone of the Google Nexus One, THE DEVELOPEMENT PHONE. so OF CAUSE the htc Desire gets the goodies first. Myself I'm pissed off that Froyo disn't have a optimized JIT for Hummingbird cpu! grrrrr.. Frankly I don't care if Froyo comes out anymore as I just wanted the JIT optimized like the Snapdragon cpu's . Also I'm hell thankful for not buying a X10, They still havn't even updated to 2.1 YET! so when (if) we SGS people are playing with Froyo (be it broken) they will finally get 2.1! heheh
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The thing that will really piss people off will be the upcoming galaxy tab that will be shipping with froyo for nov 1. That will make it painfully obvious on where Samsung is directing their dev team
They've worked too long on Froyo. Lets see what kind of garbage they will manage to churn out again. This is consequence of have poor staff engineers and interns as main coders and testers. In reality, the SW team is 2-3 "engineers" and a QA team of just one.
Having come from 1.6 on the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10, who have delayed the 2.1 release yet further to the Galaxy S (JM1) I have no problem waiting for the official release of 2.2.
I'm just happy to have a phone that actually works, unlike many people I have read on this and other forums having issues with the GPS I don't seem to be suffering the levels of inaccuracy that other do. But then again I don't really use the GPS so not even that big an issue for me.
And at least Samsung are getting it together in terms of the 2.2 update, Sony Ericsson looks like delaying the base 2.1 until around December.
I'm in the get it right, rather than get it quick, camp.
2.2 on the desire offers a plethora of nice improvements (I have the official upgrade on my own desire), but it's not faultless. Samsung have a range of issues to deal with and it's not unreasonable to assume that they might need more time to bring the galaxy s up to speed compared with the desire, which was by common consent functioning better under 2.1.
I think one has to be aware that ones personal concerns with the device are not necessarily majority concerns. Comparing my desire with the sgs, I still reach for my sgs for some tasks (internet, streamed media) in preference to the desire. The screen quality makes a massive difference and the speed and graphics acceleration makes the sgs feel more responsive. The desire feels like a workhorse, the sgs feels like fun.
Addressing the issues properly is much more important than rushing out a new set of bugs, in my view. In the meantime I find stock t-mobile fine, and better than most of my experiences with HTC windows mobile handsets out of the box.
If you really want 2.2 now you, can get it. Personally I find it reassuring that a professional team is out there trying to get it stable and optimised for the device.
Good info, thanks.
I'm all for quality too. I haven't touched my stock 2.1 yet. No lag fix, no rooting or anything, and I'm quite happy with it.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like the features of 2.2 as well, especially voice activated, handsfree dialing via bluetooth, but I'm not willing to take the risk of bricking my phone because leaked roms, or lag fixes may cause damage.
Some of you are willing to take that risk, more power to you, that's what development is all about. I'm just not willing to do that as yet. If Samsung stated they won't be providing an update, then fine. But they are, and I'm willing to wait.
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Personally I find it reassuring that a professional team is out there trying to get it stable and optimised for the device.
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Right....
asicman said:
They've worked too long on Froyo. Lets see what kind of garbage they will manage to churn out again. This is consequence of have poor staff engineers and interns as main coders and testers. In reality, the SW team is 2-3 "engineers" and a QA team of just one.
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How do YOU know that? Or do you just like trolling?
In reality, it might be that device development is a lot more difficult than people think. OSX Server 10.5 is an example of a product which took MUCH longer than 4 months to be useful, and we all know that Apple aren't a team of 2-3 engineers. How much Froyo development experience do you have to be able to say whats acceptable?
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How do YOU know that?
Or do you just like trolling?
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Look at the end result. Look the SGS that most people have in their hands...
Umm, thats a silly assumption.
The difference is that whilst every unhappy user seems to be jumping thread to thread making noise, those of us who are happy aren't creating threads everywhere praising Samsung. The discussions are unbalanced here. At one point of time, someone DID create a thread which was for people who liked the device, and it REALLY filled up.
So really, you don't have ANY development experience do you? It's more likely Samsung simply launched the product a bit prematurely in order to capture the market (and it worked), and now they are fixing the bugs. They have already fixed a lot..
You must also remember, we don't have access to the latest Samsung Builds.
SamFirmware have tweeted that Samsung are working on a new fast rom to be released in November ? Possible to UK and so on ?
Maybe they have seen that SGS is not running at peak performance ?
Anyone else have news on this ?
samsung is full of lies, i'll believe it when i see it,
I love their devices, but the support leaves a lot to be desired.
Lets hope it , till than voodoo which works great!
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How many times have they said is going to be released and then they say.. sorry next week.. next month.. is like the kid that cries wolf
Don't know know now to care anymore or to be excited then come November they will say December.. very unprofessional if used ask me.
According to samfirmware Samsung are also thinking of going ginger bread for galaxy s... yea maybe by 2012
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Several reports say the scandinavian 2.2 kies release has been pulled...
from [email protected]:
'We got this information from our Samsung insiders. Samsung is also thinking about Android 3.0 for Galaxy S.'
LoL, how about that to puzzle your mind
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Several reports say the scandinavian 2.2 kies release has been pulled...
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I don't honestly see why they would do that...
Glad I got it while I could though
As they are thinking about Gingerbread, they will probably announce they are ditching 2.2 to focus on getting 3.0 onto the SGS, lol
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I don't honestly see why they would do that...
Glad I got it while I could though
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http://goo.gl/9UOW
psp888 said:
As they are thinking about Gingerbread, they will probably announce they are ditching 2.2 to focus on getting 3.0 onto the SGS, lol
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Some say that gingerbread will be 2.5 :O
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yea... i'll believe it when i see it as well.
it's samsung don't forget. Great product, terrible support (although comming from an Omnia II with absolute 0 support, they are getting better)
They still lack the experience of HTC and such in high end smarphones for tech savy ppl
Same $hit, Same smell = Samsung......
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yea... i'll believe it when i see it as well.
it's samsung don't forget. Great product, terrible support (although comming from an Omnia II with absolute 0 support, they are getting better)
They still lack the experience of HTC and such in high end smarphones for tech savy ppl
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With the Galaxy S, I became a new Samsung Mobile customer and I'm a little bit disappointed. Not because of the froyo delays, i can survive that. But the lack with standard rfs is horrible given the technical specs this phone has.
Nevertheless, Samsung is one of the best manufactures for notebooks and TVs. In Germany, their support for notebooks is perfect. I've got experiences for a long time with these guys...
Let's wait a few more weeks, life goes on.
If Samsung are seriously considering Gingerbread they will need to up their game - their current speed of development is appalling. If Gingerbread becomes the most popular Android platform in the near future I will definitely consider selling and switching to HTC (Desire Z/HD)
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With the Galaxy S, I became a new Samsung Mobile customer and I'm a little bit disappointed. Not because of the froyo delays, i can survive that. But the lack with standard rfs is horrible given the technical specs this phone has.
Nevertheless, Samsung is one of the best manufactures for notebooks and TVs. In Germany, their support for notebooks is perfect. I've got experiences for a long time with these guys...
Let's wait a few more weeks, life goes on.
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Yes they are a great company, just don't have a clue about firmware development.
Symbian on Samsung sucked, bada sucks and now android on Samsung sucks as well. They should just focus on the hardware and leave the firmware development to Google. That's not ever going to happen though so I guess we'll just wait for the next nexus, which I still believe will be developed eventually.
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Yes they are a great company, just don't have a clue about firmware development.
Symbian on Samsung sucked, bada sucks and now android on Samsung sucks as well. They should just focus on the hardware and leave the firmware development to Google. That's not ever going to happen though so I guess we'll just wait for the next nexus, which I still believe will be developed eventually.
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I don't really think it sucks. You are exaggerating. JP6 is fine for me even without any tweaks. Putting the Tab Browser lib and voodoo makes it very very good. I've seen lots of android (and not only) smartphones and the SGS is miles ahead.
I believe most of the people here are just whiners, whatever product they use.
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I don't really think it sucks. You are exaggerating. JP6 is fine for me even without any tweaks. Putting the Tab Browser lib and voodoo makes it very very good. I've seen lots of android (and not only) smartphones and the SGS is miles ahead.
I believe most of the people here are just whiners, whatever product they use.
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I agree with your statement.
People need to remember that the Galaxy S phones have been in the market place for only about four months now. Many so-called "promises" have been speculative promises by random people, not by Samsung. They only promised to release the Froyo update when it's ready around September or October, and they are trying to keep that promise with the recent release in Europe. If you have any understanding of the software development and testing process, providing a major update in four months after the initial release of the product isn't great but not horrible as people say. Besides, we have great fixes that make the phone work really well now anyway. Just use these fixes and be a little patient! ^^ I love my Galaxy S for now...many thanks to VooDoo project and Samsung for at least giving us a great HW device!
BTW, I heard, from the most popular Korean Android website community- iroidcafe, that they discovered some issues with the JPM version and therefore, are pulling the release momentarily to fix the discovered issues before continuing to release the Froyo to the rest.
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from [email protected]:
'We got this information from our Samsung insiders. Samsung is also thinking about Android 3.0 for Galaxy S.'
LoL, how about that to puzzle your mind
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Wait Samsung are thinking? Didn't know they could do that. If they thought about it a little, they would take care of their customers better. A modern-day twelve year old has a higher level of skill in communication than their entire PR section. Actually, based on the mess they call Kies, that twelve year old might be better at programming, too...
Their hardware is pretty awesome though.
OK returning to subject, loosely translated that means a 5-10% faster ROM is coming out in february? march maybe? I have stopped believing them a while ago.
who cares?
I can't upgrade to it anyway, until now I can't make Kies working for my SGS..
(still have no gut to flash using odin..)
Samsung = the worst aftersale support I have ever experienced. And, I haven't had major issues. I would hate to think what it would be like if this phone started playing up (like for some on this forum). Really gives Android the bad name. Hardware = top of the line, no argument about this.
Here is a noble idea Samsung. Spending a little more on your communication to the public will increase our support for your brand. Don't lie or guess. Over estimate rfs dates for releases. You will be suprised how long people are prepared to wait, if they know the exact date. If you company has no credibility with your customers however, no matter what promises you will be making, you simply will be laughed at.
I personally do not believe anything that Samsung are saying. This is my first and the last purchase from this company.
Now if this true a google optimized samsung would mean the developers working on our phone will get an optimized kernal etc for hardware similar to our own
plus it is supposed to be a google phone meaning no custom ui so a we would better ports and roms for our phones.
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/rumor-samsung-will-announce-the-nexus-two-on-november-8th/
Very very exciting indeed. I am so glad I am getting a total refund now. Will def. wait and see if this is true!
If this is true, Android 3.0 running on the Orion makes me all giddy inside
Dual core 1Ghz A9 with 5x the graphic preformance of the current hummingbird.
http://i.engadget.com/2010/09/07/samsungs-orion-is-the-1ghz-dual-core-arm-cortex-a9-weve-all-be/
And an OS tuned by google. No.more ****ty software problems. What a match
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God I hope not, I was thinking of the n1s successor being the next Google phone, but not if its made by those clowns.
it is not true.
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God I hope not, I was thinking of the n1s successor being the next Google phone, but not if its made by those clowns.
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Clowns or not they are currently the ONLY phone maker who did not lock android down like a prison. Do you prefer getting a new HTC with their horrendous nand lock? Or maybe a Motorola with their encrypted bootloader ?
I didn't think so. Nuff said.
I really really hope it's true, in this case that's my next phone!
Samsung hardware with google software is indeed a deadly combo!
I told my cousin yesterday that samsung should drop dealing with the software side, and keep on concentrating on hardware. It seems they took my advice. Good boy Samsung!
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I really really hope it's true, in this case that's my next phone!
Samsung hardware with google software is indeed a deadly combo!
I told my cousin yesterday that samsung should drop dealing with the software side, and keep on concentrating on hardware. It seems they took my advice. Good boy Samsung!
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Deadly indeed. Hopefully the customers will be able to survive using the phone for at least a few minutes
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Nexus Two = Galaxy S
Have you heard the news? Google is working with Samsung on Nexus Two.
And rumors claim that it will be actually called Nexus S. It is supposed to have the same specs as Galaxy S have and to be released with Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/rumor-samsung-will-announce-the-nexus-two-on-november-8th/
The device will be the Nexus S
* It will be branded as a Google experience device featuring Android 2.3
* It will have the same 4" SAMOLED screen seen on the Galaxy S devices
* It will feature the same Hummingbird processor from the Galaxy S handsets
* It will be easily rootable like the Nexus One was
* It will be at least GSM, unknown about carrier or CDMA
* It will have no hard buttons on the face, similar to a Vibrant
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These are good news for us, 'coz we may be able to have Nexus Two goodies and seems like Gingerbread will be ported to Galaxy S (if not officially released) very easily.
If this is the case, nov. 8th announcement will be Da Bomb!!
If this is true, I might sell my SGS and get this one instead for a bigger modding community and faster updates!
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God I hope not, I was thinking of the n1s successor being the next Google phone, but not if its made by those clowns.
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Well, Galaxy S is the best Android phone on the market at the moment (hardware wise). So if there isn't going to be released any better soon, Galaxy S is the most obvious choice for Nexus Two.
EarlZ said:
If this is true, I might sell my SGS and get this one instead for a bigger modding community and faster updates!
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Why would you? It's basicaly the same phone, only ported!
You'd have to do the hastle to sell the phone, get another one with the same internals but with Google's logo instead. Just flash a rom on the first one and it'll be the same (ok... not the logos, but you can get those on eBay if you REALY want em!)
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Why would you? It's basicaly the same phone, only ported!
You'd have to do the hastle to sell the phone, get another one with the same internals but with Google's logo instead. Just flash a rom on the first one and it'll be the same (ok... not the logos, but you can get those on eBay if you REALY want em!)
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Porting may have a long wait time and additional bugs might arise and also I dont want any hard buttons on my screen.
i highly doubt this is true, but it would be wonderful.
we would probably get an optimized jit for the hummingbird finally, among other things.
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i highly doubt this is true, but it would be wonderful.
we would probably get an optimized jit for the hummingbird finally, among other things.
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Phone weight = 400g
Nice power pack battery lol
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I doubt its true, but however im sure it will be better than sgs even if they have the same a firmware.Anyone wants to bet?
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Wow I hope it's true it has the same hardware. Especially as I just got my Galaxy S lol.
Just about bought a nexus one yesterday.
Maybe I will wait for the Nov 8th announcement
I’m probably living in a pipe dream or just smoke to much, but imagine if they announced that the Galaxy S is going to be the first phone to have Gingerbread and be Google’s new Dev phone !
Hey it would make sense if it happened due to them pulling and delaying the Froyo release.
Ahhh a man can dream!
Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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you don't know much about the field and business of technology do you?
The second you buy any electronic device, it is obsolete before you even walk out of the store with it. It's something you have to accept if you make any electronics purchases.
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Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
Even though they keep coming out with new phones doesn't mean yours isn't good. Root that baby, flash a rom and fall in love with your phone all over again.
Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Yea I Know how electronics are.just think its stupid.but love my vibrant. Already rooted.just need offical froyo 2.2 and and I will be happy!
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
And of course with the same 13-1500mAh batteries these has, so we'll have like 5000 threads about terrible battery life, etc.
Personally, I don't think there is anything great about the Vibrant outside of the screen. That was Samsung's main selling point. The GPU is good, but there are now apps popping up left and right that are claiming "No Support for Samsung Galaxy S."
Yahoo Messenger for Android now has no Support for Galaxy S, Lol.
Not going to bother buying another Samsung phone anyways, but certainly not going to buy another phone with internals outside of the mainstream.
I personally view them going in another direction IRT hardware has a massive failure. That's like buying a Windows Computer with an AMD Processor, and Microsoft telling you Live Messenger isn't supported on you computer because you got AMD instead of Intel, or Microsoft Office won't run on your computer because you're running Windows Vista instead of 7, or WoW won't run on your computer because you got an ATI instead of an NVidia. Massive failure, IMO.
Apps > Hardware.
Then there's the issue of a bunch of apps simply being incompatible due to the phone only having Android 2.1...
If you expect a Nexus S or whatever to change that, then I dunno what to say. 90% of high end smartphones run Snapdragons and most don't run TouchWiz, so developers will continue to target architectures which are the majority - as they should, cause targetting Samsung's phone and ending up with apps that crash and burn on all those other phones would be utterly retarded.
DreamcastDC said:
Well as long as Samsung support the current Galaxy S line with updates I will be happy, if they don't, I know I won't be buying a Samsung phone again.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
ed1380 said:
cant wait for dual core smartphones with dedicated gpu.
4.5" screen
5+mp camera w/ flash and dedicated camera button
actual hard buttons
and of course ANDROID
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in a few weeks new Galaxy S/Nexus S coming to Tmobile. maybe it will be dual and 99.9% it will have flash. and the best thing, no more waiting for updates, and it will already come with Android 2.3
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Dont wait... Just go to akaskriller.com he already have the real one thanx to eugene
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Got in the site... i figured it out and didn't have to watch that whole video lol
Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Thing about it is, I thought about this too.. What is out that your phone can't do? It can run all the latest apps, and will even be able to support gingerbread. You could have a 5ghz phone, but what good will it do? The 1/4 second that it would be quicker would not be noticeable.
Galaxy S. Maybe the next version will include the P, so it will have a GPS~
Slow down??? Hell no! Speed up with new devices already. And the Vibrant is just fine. I use it, it has an awesome screen, and new updates get uploaded on XDA almost on a daily basis. And I love watching new phones appear. It just means that by the time I get around to another upgrade in about 14 months, the phones at that time will be that much better. So keep innovating, companies, and improving and releasing new phones.
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Ok so the Vibrant is not that old but seems like its forgotten already. Well the whole Galaxy S series! Bs since its only like 4 months old. Makes me mad that android devices get left behind so fast just to be replaced so quick. Not everyone can buy a new android device every week. I love my Vibrant but this crap makes me mad! Come on SLOW down with android devices already. Just my 2 cents! And no im not a fan boy. Just wanted to get this off my mind. Thanks a million!
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Please tell me your not mad that technology is advancing. Really? Is it such a bad thing? Nobody is forcing you to go out and buy the newest, fastest and greatest device. Personally I think while the vibrant may lack in 2.2 and some other things like flash and a 4.3" screen or HSPA+ it more than makes up for in MONSTER graphics computing, overall speed, a beautiful 4" SAMOLED screen and a camera that takes pretty amazing pics. I did expect better support from samsung considering the phone is across all carriers However I did buy the phone as is so I cant complain too much. it still holds its own against any other device out right now. Plus... The Nexus 2 will basically be a Galaxy S so we should see easy porting to our devices once gingerbread is released and android 3.0.
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What exactly are you talking about. No one is complaining about technology advancing. People are complaining mostly (and mostly indirectly) about the rate at which hardware/devices are deprecated and forgotten about.
Lots of people come from a long background in using computers, so they are not used to seeing a 1 year old device become "unsupported" for the most part.
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Hopefully we'll see some advanced implimentation of battery technology to make these handsets last a while with usage. Cause I don't want to see another ZOMG! I got 47 hours of battery.... with everything off.
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Yes, those threads piss me off so much I don't even open battery threads anymore unless it's one I posted in and there's a chance a reply may be directed at me.
Most people with great battery life hardly use the phone. I get 20 hours easy when it sits there in Standby for 18.5 of those hours. Once I start using the phone, the battery is crap. I actually had to uninstall some very useful applications so the battery wouldn't commit suicide.
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Has anyone noticed the multitude of G2 ads everywhere? Seems like HTC is really pushing the advertising with that phone...i dont understand because i have messed with the phone and i dont think its really that good. any agree?
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Yep. Actually noticed the G2 add play 3x tonight. The hinge is crap, but at least the phone works as expected.
A phone doesn't have to be "really that good" to be worth the investment. In many cases, like the Vibrant, when the phone is supposed to be "really that good" it just turns out to be a failed result of overreaching.
I got this phone because it had a lot of storage in it, and it's not like T-Mobile had that many choices when it came to high end smartphones when the Vibrant was released. Some people replying to posts act like the G2, MyTouch4G, HD7, etc. were being sold in stores in July/August.
There was the HD2, and the Vibrant. That's it. The rest of T-Mobile's phones were utter crap.
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yeah, this
only to add: i will actively tell every person i know to avoid samsung like the plague
ball's in your court samsung!
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This right here. What should have been a wonderful experience has been badly sullied by non-existent support.
Buying a phone on a 2 year contract and finding out that the phone isn't even properly supported for 4 months should be enough to piss anyone off.
Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
Seeing as there is one phone in existence sold with ics on it, that is kind of a tough stance to take. Also this has nearly the fastest currently available processor, why do you think you need a quad core?
I guess you could wait till they stop making new phones, that way there is nothing better just around the corner. I heard that will be next year, so I would wait.
Honestly, the best thing you can do is just get a new phone every year. until the next best thing, the note is it.
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Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
RMXO said:
You could learn how to root & install custom ROMs, so you never have to wait for the Samsung's updates.
If you could wait for a Quad core phone then wait for it. If you can't, then the Note should do you well.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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I know how to root so if ICS was ported I could do it myself. I'm just being picky and making up excuses to not buy the damn thing I think.. I do want it but the Galaxy Nexus went back cause I couldn't stand the volume bug and the crappy build. Just looking for opinions really to see if this device is really worth it and if the size is a problem. Trust XDA users opinions over Engadget and other tech sites.
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Wasn't sure if you knew or not hence the suggestion.
xAnimal5 said:
Ummm how to put this in simple words...
Once you start using the Note, all other phones will seem like small, slow pieces of garbage.
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So true. My friend bought Sprint's version of the SGS2 & she can barely go back to her SGS2 after using my Note for many hours.
So true...
Just got it since last week, but I don't think I'm ever going back to smaller... Only if there won't be any of theselovely 5" phones
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recklesslife85 said:
Read countless reviews and still can't decide.
Two things putting me off. The lack of ICS and Samsung take forever to get updates out (example my old mans galaxy s2 is still on 2.3.4 while my brothers Liquid Metal is on 2.3.6) Also the fact that quad core phones will be out next year.
My being picky? How are you guys gettin on with you' re notes?
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samsung arent too bad with updates, it could just be your device is locked to a region or carrier that doesnt update regularly.
my note was locked to the PLS region. it took 1-2 weeks longer than the other regions to get 2.3.6, but even so, its quite a quick update considering its a carrier branded device thats only been out for a month or so.
quad core phones have their strengths and weaknesses. the only advantage is in multitasking. you wont be able to use the raw power for a single app though aside from nvidia tegra 3 games. most PC apps are only now beginning to support multicore, i'd say android will take a fair while as well. when devs make apps, they make them so they will run on a wide variety of devices to maximise earnings. most people using android devices are still using single cores, devs will focus on maximising compatibility and improving performance on single cores first, so on a quad core phone, you may have one or two active cores with the other two doing pretty much nothing.
by the time the software catches up, you'd be stuck with a 40nm tegra3 that would burn your hands when a newer 28nm or 20nm cpu will be available and would be much faster and run much cooler.
i'd say just get a note now, enjoy the snappy performance of the apps samsung have optimised for dual core and the gpu and have fun knowing that you'll be using all you paid for in the phone rather than only getting half your money's worth with a quad.
As I know wildfires will not come out next year. There are coming some bastards 2x2 cores 2 at 1.5-1.8 and 2 low MHz cores so the battery live is increased when you don't need high usage of the cores. So don't think there will be much difference from the 2cores that are in the market atm. Maybe a better you on them will do the trick as now ics will provide hw acceleration.
Just my thoughts about that.
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