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Been lurking on here for a while, great site, helped me get my phone rooted and more useful than stock. My phone is however starting to give me some sass...
Got the Sprint CDMA Hero back in Feb. Loved it for about a week, then hated it.. Started to run REALLY slow (like 1-2 sec to flip between homescreens), so I took it back and got a new one. Again worked great for about a week then it slowed down slightly- said screw it and rooted it.
Wow. Loaded up Fresh 1.1 with the Gumbo Kernel (2.6.27), and SetCPU. Occasional force close aside, it became the phone I thought it should. When the official 2.1 update dropped, I looked back into the custom ROM to take advantage.
Familiar with Fresh's stuff, I decided to try out his stock ROM. After updated the RA, I loaded the ROM- then everything went downhill...
It was Slower than my stock 1.5 was, and force closed constantly. The phone was unusable. So I decided to load FreshToast. Wouldn't load- would get stuck on the HTC logo as it booted, like it would just freeze there. So I reverted back to my fresh 1.1 backup.
I then tried a few other ROMs, none of them would work either. Only ones I remember were iZEN: got the same HTC boot loop, and DAMAGE ROM: which worked for about 3 days before constant force closes.
Ultimately I went back to fresh 1.1 frustrated. That was a few weeks ago, now my fresh 1.1 is starting to wig out on me! Constant force closes of SenseUI, apps are unstable, and Wi-Fi tethering crashes my phone.
I really want to run FreshToast, or at least give it a go, but I don't know what to do at this point. Begining to think something is wrong with my phone (I have heard from many people personally that the CDMA hero is just generall unstable)
Please any suggestions would be appreciated.
Lots of things going on here, first I would say in my own personal experience my heroCDMA has been very stable, even overclocked to 768. I never get FCs unless I did something wrong messing with an APK or something.
Are you using Apps2sd? If so is your EXT 2 upgraded to EXT 3? And is your dalvik on internal memory or SDcard? Any particular program thats FCing on you, or just completely random? Are you wiping between roms(data, dalvik, EXT)?
I would give Fresh Rom 2.1.2 a go, and if you can get it stable and really want overclocking, flash an overclocked kernel over it. such as...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
I've also had nothing but a stable platform out of this phone. Granted, pokey compared to current offerings, but definitely stable. My phone also started out as 1.5 from Sprint, but after getting tired of waiting for the official 2.1, I rooted, loaded RA 1.62, and have been rom-hopping ever since.
Just to rule out anything basic, you haven't applied the official Sprint 2.1 update or OTA patch, right?
I tried a few rooms from here and had stability issues as well. Try going to android central forums and flashing the honeybun rom. I have iced honeybun lite with the overclock kernel and overclock widget set to 710. It is very smooth and stable.
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Not running Apps2SD. I perform a nandroid backup, then wipe everything it will let me every time I try a new ROM. Running RA 1.62.
FCs are mainly random. I'm ok with one once in a while, not a big deal. But SenseUI, or Fresh itself will FC at least twice a day. No official Sprint patch/updates have been performed since rooting it.
I guess I should clarify the "unstable" comment I made. I know 6 people with the CDMA Hero, Only 2 of them haven't had any trouble. The rest of them have had at least 2 phones because it was practically unusable slow (very similar to what I mentioned with mine), one of them has gone through 5 of them- everyone has crashed. Maybe they just send us the bad batches here in the Midwest lol.
So those personal testimonies have always had me frustrated when it runs slow, cause everyone on the net doesn't seem to have these problems. I do have the "with Google" version, not sure if that impacts anything at all.
Is there any hard wipe I can do to start from scratch? It is Very possible I tweaked something wrong early on and it's just catching up with me. When I get a chance I'll try that honeybun ROM, Fazulka.
Thanks for the replies!
Aloysius 2.1 LWP (not overclocked) has been fast and rock solid. Some Hero's (like mine) have issues with the OC'ing so it might just be that. Try using a non overclocked ROM.
I have the same exact phone you do and I can testify that there is performance issues with these phones. ....I've personally been through 2 of these phones and I've got this one rooted running buufed 2.1.6 which runs okay although the older buufed roms Were way better.. not much u can do with the force closes..I'd boot back to stock and see how it responds...leaving it rooted on stock software should let u know if u messed anything up.. then try a rom like buufed 2.1.2..that's a good stable version but it doesn't come with sprint voicemail and work from there
Hey guys and gals. i'm done with BakedSnack. it started out well, but it's gotten so laggy that it's simply not usable. so i'm looking for suggestions for a new rom.
so far i've tried two OMJ's, three BakedSnack, a real early DamageControl and an early Fresh.
basically i'm looking for all the standard hardware(wifi, 4g, cam, etc) to continue functioning. i'd also like decent battery life(a whole day is more then enough) i don't want to lose my 50fps unlock. i'm also looking for something optimized for performance. apps opening and closing smoothly and quickly, screens animating smoothly and most importantly no lag while using swype(that happens now with BS and it's giving my all kinds of strange phrases when i try to type)
can someone suggest some new roms? and yes, i know i could go read through dozens of postings and look at features, but id much rather hear about their behavior in the real world.
thanks!!
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Hey guys and gals. i'm done with BakedSnack. it started out well, but it's gotten so laggy that it's simply not usable. so i'm looking for suggestions for a new rom.
so far i've tried two OMJ's, three BakedSnack, a real early DamageControl and an early Fresh.
basically i'm looking for all the standard hardware(wifi, 4g, cam, etc) to continue functioning. i'd also like decent battery life(a whole day is more then enough) i don't want to lose my 50fps unlock. i'm also looking for something optimized for performance. apps opening and closing smoothly and quickly, screens animating smoothly and most importantly no lag while using swype(that happens now with BS and it's giving my all kinds of strange phrases when i try to type)
can someone suggest some new roms? and yes, i know i could go read through dozens of postings and look at features, but id much rather hear about their behavior in the real world.
thanks!!
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Calkulin's EViO is what you're looking for. It's located here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745205
that looks really promising! but do i need to install a new kernel? i'm currently running bakedsnacks latest and i'm worried that it's part of my speed problem
Honestly, if Baked Snack is lagging, you might have a different issue. Lag issues are a lot of time related to your kernel. Try flashing Netarchy's latest (not the beta but the stable one...I forget the numbers) and see how that goes. I've tried almost all of the ROMs but haven't found anything as good as BS.
it started out awesome, everything was slick and zippy. now, about three weeks in, it takes nearly 45 seconds to get handcent to open. then when it does open, i have to wait 15-20 seconds for the keyboard to appear. then it takes a bit for the keyboard to get situated cause as soon as i try swipping, the tracer is all over the place :-/
could it be that the kernel didn't flash properly? maybe if i reflash, it'll fix my speed issues?
This is after you reboot the phone every day?
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yessir. i had to, just to get a little relief.
Have you tried a simple wipe of your cache or davlick? You will not lose valued info and it will speed up your system.
Laggy yea ok, not sure what your doing but its not on the rom's end . I ran 1.7 for while and it was rock stable no lag no stuttering etc etc
As other roms go try them all see what one fits the needs you have
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Have you tried a simple wipe of your cache or davlick? You will not lose valued info and it will speed up your system.
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+1 wipe cache and dalvik and switch to a dif kernel either kings or nets would dobjust fine.
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Sounds like a kernel issue to me also. I was running one of his tweaked "best battery" kernels, and started noticing some lag after a while, so I switched to what was the default kernel in 1.5 and the lag disappeared. Also, if you've been running the same bs for a few weeks, then you probably haven't updated recently (like me). Maybe you'll have a better experience with 1.7.
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no i'm up-to-date. i'm running the latest 1.7.
See my sig with all my rom info and scores. Fresh is working lovely for me, and everything works. While some of the processor scores may be lower than what the Evo is capable of, I don't think those scores are bad when you consider I'm running Sense and I have a bunch of apps on my phone that are always hogging up resources (i.e. Facebook and Facebook for Sense, Lookout, eBay, Google Maps, HTC's mail, friendstream, Scoremobile widget, weather channel app, Swype, and a live wallpaper). These scores were achieved with Fresh's 3.1.0.2 rom, and I flashed the 3.2.0.0 which is based on the OTA that has not been released yet, but I lost many features with the new kernel from HTC that saves battery life, so I flashed king's kernel over it until the devs get a chance to play with the new kernel. All my root goodies are fully functional on Fresh 3.2.0.0 with Kings kernel.
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no i'm up-to-date. i'm running the latest 1.7.
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Switch to a dif kernel? I had a similar issue w one of kings kernels builginh a crazy amount of dalvik thus slowing down my phone, switched to a dif one and problem solved.
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no i'm up-to-date. i'm running the latest 1.7.
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whoops, my bad - see that in the third post. I got thrown off when I saw the comment about it being zippy at first but now you're having trouble 3 weeks in...
Try the wiping and maybe another kernel - say what you will about BS, but Hero does you give you kernel options!
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whoops, my bad - see that in the third post. I got thrown off when I saw the comment about it being zippy at first but now you're having trouble 3 weeks in...
Try the wiping and maybe another kernel - say what you will about BS, but Hero does you give you kernel options!
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i agree with the wiping before and choosing the proper kernel, also what resource intensive apps are you running? maybe you should post a list of installed programs, atrackdog allows you to export.
lastly, you can't shop without your wallet. *runs off*
I'm having no problems with BakedSnack 1.7 and kernel #5. It is the best Sense ROM, in my opinion.
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I tried BS 1.7 on a fresh install today and I was not a personal fan. It would bog down and the camera could not focus for squat. Meh.
I really like evio because it does not resize pictures sent using the standard messaging client, a big bonus imo. Paired with BFS#6 and even though I keep trying other roms, I alwasy nand back to my evio.
How do you manage to get 50 FPS on your evo. i am also running the new fresh rom and i am only getting 30 fps. please advise
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See my sig with all my rom info and scores. Fresh is working lovely for me, and everything works. While some of the processor scores may be lower than what the Evo is capable of, I don't think those scores are bad when you consider I'm running Sense and I have a bunch of apps on my phone that are always hogging up resources (i.e. Facebook and Facebook for Sense, Lookout, eBay, Google Maps, HTC's mail, friendstream, Scoremobile widget, weather channel app, Swype, and a live wallpaper). These scores were achieved with Fresh's 3.1.0.2 rom, and I flashed the 3.2.0.0 which is based on the OTA that has not been released yet, but I lost many features with the new kernel from HTC that saves battery life, so I flashed king's kernel over it until the devs get a chance to play with the new kernel. All my root goodies are fully functional on Fresh 3.2.0.0 with Kings kernel.
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hey guys, i just had a thought. when i first installed baked snack i wiped with Clockwork recovery. now i'm reading reports that it may not be clearing the cache's like it's supposed to. could this be a cause??
Whether it's a Gingerbread ROM, or just pre-rooted GB Motorola ROM, I am not stable. I get random freezes sometimes, but more often I just can't turn the screen on. It turns on, but is completely black (but you can tell it's on) and I have to do a battery pull. Liberty GB (all versions) do this as well. No GB ROM in existence is stable. I go back to .340 stock Froyo SBF or back to some other Froyo-based ROM, everything is fine. The problem never happens once.
HOW ARE YOU GUYS HAVING STABLE GINGERBREAD ON THE DX?
Ugh. Rant over. If it was a hardware problem, it'd happen at least occasionally on Froyo.
My next phone is so going to be an HTC or Samsung.
Absolutely no problems at all using Apex 2.0 RC2. Gingerbread AOSP.
No problems on prerooted GB. I was having that issue with rooted Froyo towards the end before I upgraded. It would mainly happen when I used Maps and as far as I could tell it was the GPS screwing up because when I turned off GPS my phone worked fine. I have yet to turn on GPS on GB, food for thought.
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Same exact problem as OP mentioned. Especially common after docking/undocking from PC (even if it's only charge only mode). I think GB and the Moto Driver pack are not happy. I'm running win7 ult. x64... not sure if you're on the same; but I noticed I didn't have the problem on my old work PC w/ XP x86
try cyanogen its pretty fukin awesome. only bugs so far are vieo camera and hdmi. other than that its fast n stable...
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Cyph' said:
Same exact problem as OP mentioned. Especially common after docking/undocking from PC (even if it's only charge only mode). I think GB and the Moto Driver pack are not happy. I'm running win7 ult. x64... not sure if you're on the same; but I noticed I didn't have the problem on my old work PC w/ XP x86
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I don't think it's Win7 64bit causing the issue, I'm running it at home and work and I haven't had any issues connecting or disconnecting my phone. I would really recommend SBF'ing back to Froyo, clearing data and cache a few times, and starting with a fresh ROM. And if you have TB backing up any system data, don't restore that, just apps + data.
I love how people say they will switch to a different device manufacturer as if they expect that device to be 100% flawless.
I use prerooted GB .588 and I don't have any freezes and the random reboots stopped after I did a factory reset.
I,ve been running 596 deodexed since the first day it came out with no issues. Since the vast majority of ppl seem ok with GB, it's most likely ue (user error) with following directions.
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.596 rooted deodexed. Perfectly stable. Are you overclocked?
The only time mine froze was when I went from having it underclocked at 800 MHz to overclocking at 1.4 GHz. But I expected that to happen lol
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Liberty is working great for me. I have had one freeze up since may.
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My Verizon Droid X works great with GB. Even pushed it with Netflix and Hulu. I burn about 2200 min a month of cell time on avg. No issues.
I am running the latest DarkSlideX on my DX. It's flashed on top of TBH's 2-part 596. It's fast, stable, and has pretty good battery life, too. I had a reboot issue the first day with it, but a couple reboots and it hasn't hiccuped in over a week.
My DroidX Thrives on the DarkSlide!!
I have had about 1 of the problems you've discribed: The lockscreen blackout but that only happened once.
The problem is that you are probably deleting necessary files with Titanium backup. The crappy thing about GB is that half of the apps on the system that moto puts in there are interconnected with everything else so if you kill one app it'll make your phone die. I have never had the random freezing; but If I were you I'd delete WInzip if you have it on your phone. This is the main reason for a lot of my gingerbread issues. I now use ProPlayer: you can either get it free somewhere online, or off the market[place for like 3 bucks.
Everything is now working great.
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Since the vast majority of ppl seem ok with GB, it's most likely ue (user error) with following directions.
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I completely agree with your logic, but it's not user error. I'm a tier 3 tech for 10 years and user error is abundant and seemingly always the cause of problems that you can't duplicate on your side of things. However, I was flashing ROMs to smartphones years before Android even existed. (I also SBF my phone from a headless Ubuntu server sitting under my desk that I'm SSH'd into, if that helps convince you that I know what I'm doing.) I'm intimately familiar with the process on a variety of devices. I clear data, cache & dalvik cache 7 times each just to be sure whenever I SBF or install a new ROM, or even update to a newer version.
I don't use backup apps of any kind like Titanium Backup specifically because they can cause problems, I do "fresh installs" every time. I may have some hardware issue only being brought to light in Gingerbread, which seems unlikely but anything is possible. No matter how many times I SBF back to .340 stock or .340 stock then flash Liberty 2.0.1, (which is still Froyo-based) it's rock solid, but any GB ROM, before long I've got the screen turning on to a blank black screen when I hit the power button and it takes 1-10 reboots before the problem goes away for a while.
Really annoying. Guess I'll just have to stick with Froyo until I decide to buy a new phone. Bleh.
You probably did this, but many aren't aware of it. Any time you do a SBF or ROM install, do a factory reset as well. More often than not, it clears up strange behavior like this. I had lots of problems with my GB upgrade until I remembered to do this. Since then, GB has been running flawlessly for the past few weeks.
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You probably did this, but many aren't aware of it. Any time you do a SBF or ROM install, do a factory reset as well. More often than not, it clears up strange behavior like this. I had lots of problems with my GB upgrade until I remembered to do this. Since then, GB has been running flawlessly for the past few weeks.
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After SBF'ing, I've always had to (so far) wipe data and cache to stop it from bootlooping anyways, which is basically the same thing as doing a factory reset.
Roland Deschain said:
I completely agree with your logic, but it's not user error. I'm a tier 3 tech for 10 years and user error is abundant and seemingly always the cause of problems that you can't duplicate on your side of things. However, I was flashing ROMs to smartphones years before Android even existed. (I also SBF my phone from a headless Ubuntu server sitting under my desk that I'm SSH'd into, if that helps convince you that I know what I'm doing.) I'm intimately familiar with the process on a variety of devices. I clear data, cache & dalvik cache 7 times each just to be sure whenever I SBF or install a new ROM, or even update to a newer version.
I don't use backup apps of any kind like Titanium Backup specifically because they can cause problems, I do "fresh installs" every time. I may have some hardware issue only being brought to light in Gingerbread, which seems unlikely but anything is possible. No matter how many times I SBF back to .340 stock or .340 stock then flash Liberty 2.0.1, (which is still Froyo-based) it's rock solid, but any GB ROM, before long I've got the screen turning on to a blank black screen when I hit the power button and it takes 1-10 reboots before the problem goes away for a while.
Really annoying. Guess I'll just have to stick with Froyo until I decide to buy a new phone. Bleh.
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Nothing to add, just wanted to say "Hile, Gunslinger!" (just finished the audiobook version of DT 7).
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
I've compared the Desire S with and without a custom ROM to my Galaxy S, and for some reason HTC Sense is just really fast and with custom ROM was about the same as my Galaxy S. So I guess it's just HTC Sense.
Install Cyanogenmod 7. Makes the SGS far faster than the wildfire s and makes the Samsung ROMs like JVO look prehistoric.
Insanity cm.....all is instant
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Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
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yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
Quad-core 1Ghz, 3D Samoled+! O.O
Sorry, OT.
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CM7> AOSP > HTC Sense > Samsung TW > LG
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I have no idea what you are moaning about. No issues with the phone. Compared to my Xperia X10a and HTC HD2, this one is very nice indeed.
Ctcng said:
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
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exactly my thoughts.
I like samsung - i was also considering buying the second sgs, however decided to wait for a nice ice cream at the year end.
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
And something offtopic: the alarm bug hasnt even been officially fixed right?!!?
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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i must say I totally agree with OP ! my sgs is also laggy. I am on f1 sgs2 rom. with galaxian kernel, with ext 4 lagfix and oc to 1.2 Ghz. but still it takes way to long, to open apps of any kind... and it just lags randomly all the time. have reinstalled several times according to instructions so dont tell me to do factory reset
I think the best gingerbread I have tried was jvh. app launch was the nearest to instant I have seen.
but I think the most lagfree experience must be froyo jp6 or jpy with speedmod kernel.
and to be honest since jp6 the browser has been a joke... :-(
its said that jvq browser is better, but only on odexed roms...
sadly I think that the support for the sgs is nearly over... and I have lost faith that samsung will free my sgs of lag :-(
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Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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Still way slower than my old nexus one running gingerbread. It runs rings around cm7 even. Everything is instant and faultless.
Op is right.
If nexus one had samoled screen and better speakers I'd be like,
what's a galaxy s?
Having said that I prefer the gs1 to nexus s.
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Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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my bad, that is what i am using.
It was impressive at the beginning, however not anymore.
lag is back, the alarm bug is still on, and some recent random restarts started.
I know there are fixes etc - but its worth noting that the hardware will die unutilised at least when it comes to official roms from samsung.
The lag issue is a common theme with the SGS. Not sure how long you have owned your SGS but I believe the SGS still has better hardware but the lag develops over time.
So when I first got me SGS in June last year, it was great at the start. Then the lag came in and I tried OneClick Lagfix based on xda advice. That seemed to work for a bit but then slowed down again. In November, I flashed my first custom rom (Darky 8.5), the used the Speedmod Lag fix. Same thing, good at the start, then slows down. I kept trying a few others (Darky 9.2, 10.1, DebusRom, ExtraOrdinary, Chebon) and the longest I stayed on before noticing the lag was about 1 month.
One of the steps suggested before a flashing a rom is to undo lagfix and recommended to do a wipe as the freshest install. Doing this seems to refresh the speed as it was at the start (so constant flashing seems to make things quicker).
Something also to try if you don't want to try a new rom or firmware, is to undo and redo the lagfix. Almost like defragmenting but it seems to refresh the system (imho).
I have also heard some of the latest firmwares (JVQ) have better implementations of the filesystem and have heard some people not using lagifx at all. Given you have installed lagfix, you aren't that far from installing a new firmware/rom (just back up your files obviously). I haven't been on JVQ long enough to see if this truly fixes the issue though.
Just my thoughts.
Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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This shocking,i had the wildfire,and have to say that i experienced totally different things than you.It was laggy,slow.Then i rooted the phone,and changed the sense crap to a different rom,then there was no lag.phone worked smoothly.as for my SGS,the stock thing is laggy.It gets much better only changing the kernel to Galaxian.
I gotta try that Galaxian kernel. Changing to other phone constantly inhabits my mind, to something more reliable.
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In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
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Manufacturer? It's not even that simple. A friend has a stock one and it works nicely (for stock). Another friend has another stock one and lags horribly, force closes, freezes, has trouble with dropped calls. The difference? They are on different operators so the crap that they bundle together is so different that it makes or breaks the phone.
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
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You were right. LP was lagging the phone as hell, mostly when going back to the homescreen and closing apps. I gave TouchWiz a run for a straight hour, playing games, opening and closing emails, browsing G+, Maps and several other apps, it never lagged when going back to the homescreen, which is what worries me most. I still need to try it on everyday use though.
Time to find another launcher. Any recommendations?
So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
I've flashed a number of custom ROM's that speed up the phone significantly and drastically improve battery life. The only problem is after a few days of use I almost always start to get intermittent problems like random reboots, force closes and texts not going through etc.
I always follow the install instructions to a "t" and I still get problems. I must be missing a step somewhere along the way or not fully understand the cons of running custom ROM's or something.
I'm at my wits end. At one time I thought it must be the phone so I swapped with Sprint but I still have the same problems.
Currently I am running Scrambled EGgs22 V7 and I love it (when it works). I've tried bonsai, urban roms, you name it. Its the same results with every one. They work fantastic at first and then slowly become unusable.
Is there anybody out there who has experienced something similar to this and can help me remedy?
Having journaling enabled does help with data corruption if you find yourself having to start over a lot due to force closes.
Are you under/overclocking and/or undervolting at all? IIRC, stock speeds are ~400/1000Mhz.
Sounds like journaling is youjr answer. Make sure it is enabled and never pull the battery without shutting the phone completely down..after the vibration.
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Kafluke said:
So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
I've flashed a number of custom ROM's that speed up the phone significantly and drastically improve battery life. The only problem is after a few days of use I almost always start to get intermittent problems like random reboots, force closes and texts not going through etc.
I always follow the install instructions to a "t" and I still get problems. I must be missing a step somewhere along the way or not fully understand the cons of running custom ROM's or something.
I'm at my wits end. At one time I thought it must be the phone so I swapped with Sprint but I still have the same problems.
Currently I am running Scrambled EGgs22 V7 and I love it (when it works). I've tried bonsai, urban roms, you name it. Its the same results with every one. They work fantastic at first and then slowly become unusable.
Is there anybody out there who has experienced something similar to this and can help me remedy?
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Kafluke said:
So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
That's about the biggest lie over stock.. I started with a custom rom and it sucked the world's biggest donkey balls on battery life. It can last me the whole day on EC05. Just gotta learn how to optimize bro.
SchizioPunk's Epic Experience 2.1 Eclair -> Odin to EC05 Froyo. Rooted. Bloatware Removed. Voodoo Sound V9 Module Loaded. TouchWiz4. Enjoying my Customized Stock Experience.
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Run 'Fix Permissions' from Rom Manager. That has solved FC problems for me in the past.
Have you tried reformatting your SD card? If it has gotten mucked up, I imagine that could start causing issues.
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Run 'Fix Permissions' from Rom Manager. That has solved FC problems for me in the past.
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Dont forget clearing dalvik and cache does also. I'm assuming people think that'll erase their stuff but It doesn't.
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So how do I turn on journaling exactly?
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So how do I turn on journaling exactly?
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Edit: there should be a zip file that came with Epicurean to enable journaling.
There I a zip file that you can flash. I'll look for it
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
I can't win. I enabled Journaling and my performance and speed went to crap. I guess I either have to suffer through the crappy stock rom or deal with force closes and random crapiness with a custom rom.
Kafluke said:
I can't win. I enabled Journaling and my performance and speed went to crap. I guess I either have to suffer through the crappy stock rom or deal with force closes and random crapiness with a custom rom.
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If you want to disable journaling then just make sure to never shutdown your phone improperly or drop it and keep good backups to restore from. I like to do a nand every 3 or 4 days then I can always do a restore advanced data only.
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kennyglass123 said:
If you want to disable journaling then just make sure to never shutdown your phone improperly or drop it and keep good backups to restore from. I like to do a nand every 3 or 4 days then I can always do a restore advanced data only.
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Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.
Did you try the stock EG22 leak? Thats what I use, deodexed from decadence with the plus kernal from chris41g. It performs well and is the best battery life I ever had.
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Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.
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True, that is why your $400 device comes with stock ROMs that are RFS so none of these FCs happen unless a third party app is written poorly. If you run custom ROMs these are the chances and prices you pay.
A $2000 computer still requires regular backups for the very same reason.
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Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.
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BUT! Your forgetting something: you paid $400 for a phone
which Sammy provided to you via the vender of your choice with a STOCK ROM preloaded which works that way they have wanted.
Now from the moment you came over to the dark side and preloaded a rom there are good things and bad things that come with the package and you can't blame sammy for them.
Also, this is the world of trial and error: what may work fine for 500 phones will not work sometimes with yours. Every part of your phone though it could of been made the same day and from the same batch of my phone, are different and this will make you have different results.
Keep that in mind, your in a world that pose much risk to your device, but that's the fun part! Taking the risk and rolling with it!
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I am running SFR 1.2 with journaling on and can get all day with 3 to 4 hours screen on time , no force closes or any problems and all the smooth and fast goodness that comes with the rom.
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BUT! Your forgetting something: you paid $400 for a phone
which Sammy provided to you via the vender of your choice with a STOCK ROM preloaded which works that way they have wanted.
Now from the moment you came over to the dark side and preloaded a rom there are good things and bad things that come with the package and you can't blame sammy for them.
Also, this is the world of trial and error: what may work fine for 500 phones will not work sometimes with yours. Every part of your phone though it could of been made the same day and from the same batch of my phone, are different and this will make you have different results.
Keep that in mind, your in a world that pose much risk to your device, but that's the fun part! Taking the risk and rolling with it!
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I don't have any problems with the stock rom. I'd love to have a stock rom that doesn't blow on battery life.
I understand that there are risks and pros and cons with custom roms but I can't seem to get a custom rom that is stable in any way shape or form. I assume that its my fault because I don't see anybody else having the same problems.
I guess I'm just looking for some help in getting a "half decent" custom rom experience but I can't even get that far. Without fail, every time I load a custom rom I get force closes and random issues. Then I go back to stock rom and I'm charging after two hours of use. I can't win.
@mark8503 I'll give that stock EG22 leak a shot and see what happens.
Thank you for everyone's help!
@mark8503
I assuming this is the stock rom you speak of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183558
and this is the kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185221
Please confirm.
IMO, if turning journaling on slowed down your phone enough for you to notice, something went wrong
I've run the on and off zips, and the difference is hard to see
Also, since RFS has a journal feature, I can't see how EXT4 with journaling on would be slower, all other factors being the same
You want stable and solid, ODIN an EC05 modem, install SRF 1.2, do you voltage setting, and call it a day
If you want the bleeding edge, you just have to accept you need precautions, as on the edge, **** happens.
Pick your poison and go with it
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5:50 pm and battery is awesome! So far so good, this deodexed stock EG22 is running great, no FC's, no random reboots and battery life is excellent with chris41gs kernel. I just hope I didn't jinx it.
I'll report back after a few days of use.