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Is it worth going from stock to MoDaCo?

Hello-
First off, please excuse my n00bness - I'm from the world of Windows Mobile hacking, and this Android stuff is really confusing me.
I've been tolerating stock for a while, but the slowness is really getting to me - today I clocked my Hero at 12 seconds to wake up from standby, which is just unacceptable. I'd like to know if there are any significant speed benefits to going from stock to the latest MoDaCo rom? Are there any downsides? I read the post over at modaco.com, but couldn't see any "known issues".
Thanks for any input,
TM

Take the plunge.

I went from stock to Fresh and overlayed Modaco. My uptime shot to 90%, 80% and stuck at 70%.
I reflashed to Stock then back to Modaco. I am now at around 15% uptime. I removed the bloatware from Sprint and LOVE the speed of this phone now. Its what I expected when I bought it.

I have no doubt that you'll see a speed increase with Modaco. Especially if you remove the sprint apps once you load Modaco.

Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.

it's worth it to switch to any custom rom. bluetooth is just something thats messed up with our 1.5 builds.

ffolkes said:
Thanks for all the replies. One more question though, are there any big known issues with the latest MoDaCo? I thought I read something about BT not working, or something to that extent.
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you will notice a big difference switching to modaco 2.2... and im not experiencing any BT issues at all... matter or fact, im not experiencing ANY issues with anything using this rom...

Heck, anything is better than stock.

especially since we have a custom kernel now its definitely worth it to go to any custom rom, especially modaco 2.2

Im using fresh. I used the kitchen to root my phone and installed 1.1. No problems so far except that the voice recorder app keep crashing for some reason. I did an upgrade without wiping though so that might be my problem.
Its a lot faster and the tether app is awesome!

Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?

I ran stok for about 6 hours and decided that I didnt pay that much money for a smart phone that was that slow.
I flashed Fresh 1.0 to start and I have tried just about all the roms that are out there. Including modaco 2.2 and it may just be that I started with fresh but I always seem to go back to it over the rest, and add onto that the modaco kernel with compcache and then doing the config tweak found here my phone just flies now.
I now have it set to where I feel a phone at this price point should be to start.
edit: to remove the apps follow the instructions found here

ffolkes said:
Ok, so far so good. Got everything flashed, but how do I get rid of things like Stocks/Sprint TV/NFL/etc? Just follow the generic guide (for any rooted Hero) I saw?
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Use the Fresh Kitchen to pull any you don't want.

You know what? I've flashed MoDaCo's ROM before, but it was just too much like stock (except for the obvious speed increases). I flashed Fresh 1.1, and loved it because it had the speed of MoDaCo's, plus the Espresso UI. Then I recently flashed Gumbo Kernel to my phone, and omgwtfzorz my phone is RIDICULOUSLY fast. Not noticeably, but RIDICULOUSLY. I can't believe you've been living with stock for this long >.< Custom ROM's and kernels are necessary for this phone haha.

Which ROM have YOU flashed?

Sup everyone.
Just curious to whats going on in the EVO community, as far as who flashed which ROM, and why. Maybe even provide a link to the ROM, or the dev site! That always helps too. So lets start with mine::
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1) Which custom ROM are you using? (or Stock?)
- Currently running Fresh 0.2 Custom ROM. Loving the speed and nearly bugless experience. Custom navi-bar is a nice feature, but currently running LauncherPro on top of it.
2) Why are you using it?
- Considering its my first real ROM experience, Fresh seems to be the more popular of the bunch. Sticking with it until something else awesome comes out, or maybe this one can just get better. ^_^
3) Pros / Cons?
- PROS - Fast, reliable, nearly no errors, at all. Trust-worthy name in the ROM society. Removes unwanted Apps and bettery life seems pretty fair. Can only get better.
- CONS - Seem to be having trouble changing wallpapers. (getting FC?)

1.32.651.6 rooted I just wanted root and I like the Sprint and HTC programs

Damaged 3.0
Its fast, stable and everything works.
Once the asop like builds and or froyi get mms receive / camera working I'll probably move to one of those.

1. Bugless Pete 3.0
2. like the stock experience (first android phone), didnt want something with GUI hacks
3. Pros: incredibly fast, no ads, everything works
Cons: Need a second flash to get rid of Sprint Apps

BuglessBeast
Using it for the battery life improvements and built in task killer
Fast, stable and excellent battery life.
No problems yet, but I havent done anything tasking with it.

Stock rooted 1.32.651.6 that Flipz provided. Took out all the stuff I didn't want, and put ADW Launcher on it. It's basically perfect now. I've been wanting to flash some other stuff but I haven't seen anything to sway me from this setup yet.

I've done about 4 of the
OMJ ROM's are stable, everything works, Sprint Apps are excluded. Advantages (since I'm new to Android) are different programs he puts in his ROMs. This is the one I use when I need my phone usable.
I tried the EVOlution ROMs. Froyo is definitely quicker and cooler. I can't wait until we can get it. There are too many things that unstable or unusable about it. I mean, I got kids so I NEED my camera at any given moment.
I flashed one that I didn't know what the difference was. That was really just a test for ROM Manager, which makes the process 100% easy. Just a few clicks and your done.
My next one which just finished DLing is DamageControl 3.0. He advertised well. Sposed to be quick stable and battery saving. All benefits to me.
I also use Titanium Backup so I can restore my customizations. Saves a bunch of time as well. Be careful though cuz a customization on one ROM could mean a bootloop on another.

I use OMJ's Vanilla "eclair" rom with all the sprint and htc crap removed. it's glorious!

Fresh 0.2 for me. Just because I liked his stuff on the hero.
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Fresh 0.2. Flipz always did me right with my hero. Tried out the Evolution Froyo rom just to see how Froyo ran on the Evo. Definately nice. Can't wait to have a fully working rom. Tried OMJ for a while. Will probably stick with Fresh rom. He makes a pretty stable rom and always has some tricks up his sleeves for the next build.

I'm running RvU 1.3.2. I then used Buggless bloatware removal, installed Overclock..
I did it because of battery drain.. Before, I was getting about 8-12 hours of use + sleep (3g). Now, I'm pushing 35-40 with use and sleep (these results are when using wifi only, I'm still experimenting with 3g).

DamageControl v3 but switched to EVOlution V7 last night and it's running great.

Stuck switching between FroYo and DC.
I would love to have everything working, but it's just so hard with how sexy FroYo is

Flipz "Fresh Evo 0.2" ... and i upgraded to .3 using ROM Manager.

Running Baked Snack .7 . Stupid fast and I love his customization to the battery icon, notifications and the notification bar. Plus the battery life has been improved as well.

EVOlution v7...If I need a camera ill just load my saved 2.1 in a couple minutes and roll..
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only tried fresh although I think it has a memory leak because my available memory keeps on going down the longer I keep my phone booted. Could be wrong.

Hero's Hero said:
Stuck switching between FroYo and DC.
I would love to have everything working, but it's just so hard with how sexy FroYo is
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Same, cant pull myself way from Avalaunch's ROM, Froyo is too nice....

Right now I'm running DamageControl v3.0, I really wanna tryp flipz fresh .3 but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get into adb on my comp, I've been googling and going through posts here for a few hours now to no avail

Have flashed:
EVOlution: Amazing, but no cameras
Damaged 3.0/.1/.1.1: Nice, and a lot of innovative features, but was too buggy.
Currently running:
Bugless: It doesn't try to do anything fancy, and because of that, everything works great and its fast and sleek.

[Q] What's wrong with this MyTouch 4G?

A buddy's girlfriend just picked this phone up and she had me check it out and show her the ropes (I own an Epic 4g and came from a Hero) and I just couldn't get over how incredibly slow it was. It installed and opened apps slowly, it changed screens slowly, I honestly thought it was a 500Mhz phone until I looked it up. Now, I know these custom UI skins have a tendency to drag down performance, but my Hero never ran like this and neither does the Evo which is a similarly spec'd phone with the "same" software. Its so bad at this point even she's fed up with it and the only Android phone she's had before is the Vortex which is a 600Mhz device.
Now, I know that this phone is capable of more given its hardware and I'm going to get right to hacking it up for her and getting CM6 or 7 (nice btw, I wish we had CM7 going on the Epic) but is the stock software it comes with supposed to be this bad or is this an atypical experience that if I were to do a factory restore (via RUU or w/e file type they chose to load software with) would fix it?

Definitely unusual, my gf has a stock that she abuses, installing everything she finds and never uninstalling or rebooting and her phone still runs smooth. Might happen to have an app misbehaving...

Thanks, I've worked many an HTC phone and hers is a disaster. I can't imagine what app could have been misbehaving, but I assume it'll stop once I wipe everything and load some vanilla Android goodness. I'll admit, I'm more excited to mess around with CM7 than I am to root around in her stock phone to find whatever's causing the problem.

I'm still running stock on my MT4G, and it's quick as can be. Been using it a month or so and virtually no lag.

My stock mt4g wasn't slow either. But definitely root it. Much faster
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nick34609 said:
My stock mt4g wasn't slow either. But definitely root it. Much faster
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Lol, yeah I'm sure performance would be even better after rooting and optimizing, but I'm not there yet. I had my MT3G for like 6 months before I got bored and decided to root, after which I tried about 20 different roms. I'm sure I'll follow a similar pattern with this phone - in a few months I'll get bored and root to start switching things up. But still enjoying the stock experience as it offers everything I had to root the MT3G for. Plus rooting after running stock for a while will really make it feel like getting a new phone without actually having to buy one

I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...

Install iced glacier rom on it and maybe faux's kernel and you're done. It should be smooth as butter. I don't know how tthat stock is slow but I've played with a buddies stock phone and its still quick. No lag. Definitely a app misbehaving
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If wiping does not fix it, then I would say there is a hardware issue. It should not be slow at all.

Yeah. Took me about a week before I decided lol.
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RootaToota said:
I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
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It seems like a factory reset wouldn't fix any core issue, since there isn't an image kept on the phone's memory. It just wipes all of your user data and returns the phone to an original state, but if the original state is in some way corrupted you would have to flash a known good image of the stock ROM to correct any problems. You can find good post-OTA PD15IMG.zip files on these forums.

Misbehaving apps or hardware problems are not the only reason for slow down.
If you have your phone syncing a ton (facebook, twitter, Qik, weather, stocks) it will appear slow as it becomes sluggish during the sync process.

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Misbehaving apps or hardware problems are not the only reason for slow down.
If you have your phone syncing a ton (facebook, twitter, Qik, weather, stocks) it will appear slow as it becomes sluggish during the sync process.
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You should be able to run 7 screen full of active push widgets and full syncs without the type of lag he is describing.
He said he thought it was a 550MHz phone until he looked up the specs. There's got to be some rogue program controlling things. Check out the running apps / services and also check the battery usage.
Finally, if a wipe doesn't fix it, send 'er back!

RootaToota said:
I just bought one as well on the 12th of Feb and it's VERY slow. Annoying. I DID run a Quadrant standard test on it and it scored about 1660 which is nice. No matter how many factory resets I do, it doesn't change the crappy smothered OS.
My stock EVO was very fast. Other MT4G's I've worked with are able to be rooted and are very snappy STOCK. This one is slow and giving me a headache.
I am unable to root it with any method available. I can't find Visionary 11, which supposedly is the problem...
I'm waiting for another method to come out. I've tried about 4 different methods...
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Here is Visionary R11

ROMs... bugs... where to go from here?

Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.

Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....

Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?

So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.

Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet

iwantyourskulls said:
Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?

Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.

What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.

Crossrocker said:
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.

On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.

What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.

chandlerw88 said:
No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).

reaper24 said:
What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)

I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.

I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM

I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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c1o5ry1991 said:
The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.

Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!

Trigger 3.2 vs CM7

What are some of the differences? I use Trigger 3.2 and it works well for me (but KB5 Modem doesnt so im on KB1 which drains battery more but gives me better signal indoors in NYC)
Ive never tried CyanogenMod... anyone prefer one over the other?

I'm also on Trigger, and what has kept me from even trying CM7 is the lack of GPS, which as I understand it stems from the lack of Gingerbread for our phones. I imagine this board will explode once Gingerbread gets leaked, so maybe I'll try CM7 when I see that happen.

i like cm7, but i always go back to trigger. cm7 is good, but the only thing i don't like is the 3d on some gameloft games are skippy. specially for fps like nova 2. im gonna try the new version 17 and see what happens.
edit: ok so i went back to cm7 and i don't think im going to change back. runs smooth and 3d problems go away after playing for a bit. only real issue besides gps is that sometimes you have to mute/unmute phone for people to hear you clearly

I came over to cm7 from trigger 3.2 and I love it. minus the gps, which i rarely used anyways, I love the customization of cm7. also, it just looks so much shinier.. the wallpapers, the themes, everything is just so beautiful.

Thanks for the feedback!
Alex - I too hardly use GPS so maybe I shall give it a try too.

I loved Trigger 3.2, especially with the Bullet kernel. I moved over to CM7 though and have no plans to go back. It's not just a Trigger vs CM argument, but a Froyo vs Gingerbread argument. The generic email app in Froyo on Vibrants is broken, this isn't just a Trigger problem, but a problem with all Froyo ROMs for the Vibrant. In Gingerbread it is buttery smooth. I also like how streamlined CM7 is. Applying a theme for CM7 is easier than on any ROM I have tried before. I also get better Linpack and Quadrant scores using the base kernel for CM7 then I have for any base kernel in Froyo. And like a previous post mentioned, CM7 is extremely customizable. If there is a feature they added that I don't like, it's very easy to turn off that feature. Another nice feature to CM7 is that once you have flash CM7 on your phone, it's very easy to update. I found updating any Froyo ROM to be time consuming since I had to make sure that I had backed up my files in TB and then once I updated my Froyo ROM I would have to restore my TB backup. With CM7 you only need to restore your TB backup after the first flash. Every update after that only updates the specific files they have changed in CM7, so I don't need to go through the restore process each time.
Trigger 3.2 with the Bullet kernel is still faster, more stable (although not by much, CM7 is really stable now), has GPS and a better battery life. Even with all of that, Trigger is a ROM that has reached the end of it's development. CM7 is still in the beginning stages for the Vibrant and continues to grow.
Either way you really can't go wrong since both are fantastic ROMs and it all really comes down to which you prefer. The biggest warning I will give you is if you decide to try out CM7 make sure you know how to Odin you phone, because you will have to perform an Odin on your device if you want to go back to Trigger.

When they fix the mute/unmute bug on CM7 it will be the best ROM, even without GPS.

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When they fix the mute/unmute bug on CM7 it will be the best ROM, even without GPS.
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they've already fixed that... try new #17, mine's worked since 16 though.

it depends on how you use your phone, imho i like both im currently on cm7 in trigger i like the speed stability battery life functions and all of that stuff and in cm7 i like the update process since its easy, the new functions and so much more

droidfan77 said:
I loved Trigger 3.2, especially with the Bullet kernel. I moved over to CM7 though and have no plans to go back. It's not just a Trigger vs CM argument, but a Froyo vs Gingerbread argument. The generic email app in Froyo on Vibrants is broken, this isn't just a Trigger problem, but a problem with all Froyo ROMs for the Vibrant. In Gingerbread it is buttery smooth. I also like how streamlined CM7 is. Applying a theme for CM7 is easier than on any ROM I have tried before. I also get better Linpack and Quadrant scores using the base kernel for CM7 then I have for any base kernel in Froyo. And like a previous post mentioned, CM7 is extremely customizable. If there is a feature they added that I don't like, it's very easy to turn off that feature. Another nice feature to CM7 is that once you have flash CM7 on your phone, it's very easy to update. I found updating any Froyo ROM to be time consuming since I had to make sure that I had backed up my files in TB and then once I updated my Froyo ROM I would have to restore my TB backup. With CM7 you only need to restore your TB backup after the first flash. Every update after that only updates the specific files they have changed in CM7, so I don't need to go through the restore process each time.
Trigger 3.2 with the Bullet kernel is still faster, more stable (although not by much, CM7 is really stable now), has GPS and a better battery life. Even with all of that, Trigger is a ROM that has reached the end of it's development. CM7 is still in the beginning stages for the Vibrant and continues to grow.
Either way you really can't go wrong since both are fantastic ROMs and it all really comes down to which you prefer. The biggest warning I will give you is if you decide to try out CM7 make sure you know how to Odin you phone, because you will have to perform an Odin on your device if you want to go back to Trigger.
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Thank you for your thorough review. I will surely try CM7

I need some assistance. Im trying to flash CM7. The directions state to flash ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager Premium. When I do, an option for Vibrant MTD isnt listed...how do I get it to give me that option?

as long as u have rom manager premium all u have to do is click on flash clockwork recovery it will be at very top of rom manager page. Then it will ask u wht type of phone u pick vibrantmtd for cm7 and then u pick 3x NOT 2x. Then after thats done go to download rom and pick cm7 nightlies

Hey movieaddict... I did upgrade to Rom Premium but unfortunately VibrantMTD isnt an option.. Perhaps my Trigger 3.2 bootloader isnt a Froyo bootloader? (If the ROM installed its own)
Update: This is one of the EDT reps wrote on their facebook page: Trigger does not contain one. I believe you can find one in one of the older ODIN packages posted.
So I guess I need to ODIN to stock in order to have a Froyo bootloader? Which is odd because I have ODIN'd to stock in the past...
Anyone have any recommendations?

I got it.. I had to reinstall Rom Manager which is totally a newer version then the one I had on my phone

What is the diff between CWR 2.x and 3.x? The thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061889 indicates you should choose 2.x, which is what I have done.
Thanks.

ive always chosen 3x on cm7 and on 2.2 roms i choose 2x and i havent had one problem yet with cm7!

I had problems with CM7 to where I had to reflash the nightly, well dayly for it to continue to work. It would keep FC everything. It would not remain stable. I stopped updating when #11 hit since my voice calls wouldn't work. I suppose that issue is fixed by now though. That was my experience with CM7 and I don't suppose I will go back until 2.3 is released.

What I don't understand is all the problems people are having with cm7 nightlies? Its pretty straightforward! I prefer cm7 over trigger
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i like CM7 more

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I agree. I had a lot of FCs with Trigger. Now, I have to say though, I did a ODIN back to stock before flashing CM7. I didnt do this when flashing Trigger though. Trigger worked fine for a week then started FCs on everything.