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Please make a super themed Nexus S rom. I know we all Nexus S Gingerbread owner's have a pure Google experience but, it's not the same unless we have a pure Developer experience. I'm asking Team Whiskey because you guys worked miracles on the Vibrant. I know that Team Whiskey will get my support and, lot's of other happy Nexus S owners. I'm very happy with this phone but, with a great touch of Team Whiskey everything is awesome and nice. What's your take on my thought, good or bad? please post your thoughts thanks.
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Hi have you tried the bionix rom with trinity kernel?
Check out the dev section on the nexus s forum
Bionix rom is out but it hasn't been updated in a while. Known reboot issue but I think the team whisky guys other than morphic are busy working the kinks out and making ui options for their new bionix vibrant rom. Here's to hoping they come back soon for us. I love cyanogenmod for this phone and others but I pretty much only used teamwhiskey roms the entire time I had my vibrant and they were awesome. Some of the most polished roms out there and usually amazing battery life with all the speed and enhancements
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Bionix rom is out but it hasn't been updated in a while. Known reboot issue but I think the team whisky guys other than morphic are busy working the kinks out and making ui options for their new bionix vibrant rom. Here's to hoping they come back soon for us. I love cyanogenmod for this phone and others but I pretty much only used teamwhiskey roms the entire time I had my vibrant and they were awesome. Some of the most polished roms out there and usually amazing battery life with all the speed and enhancements
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Ill have to agree. I miss team whiskeys releases since I had my vibrant. It would be nice to see the same level of development for the NS as well. No pressure to the devs though. I sincerely appreciate any effort of development within XDA.
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Hi have you tried the bionix rom with trinity kernel?
Yes I flased the bionix rom for the Nexus S and, I went into the Vibrant Android development section and flash the newest bionix rom for the Vibrant and, boy it was wow! If I might say. The bionix Team Whiskey rom for the Vibrant is what made me throw out this post; that rom was that great! Besides, the bionix rom for the Nexus S...it just didn't have much of Team Whiskey in it. Coming from the Vibrant's Team whiskey work to the Nexus S Team Whiskey work, you would know something was missing.
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just be patient
their latest 1.3b is stable
if you want OC, you can always add trinity to it
besides, there are no new Google updates yet, there's no need to have a new ROM every week, just for the sake of flashing something new every week
if you are a flash addict, might as well go try CM7 or any other ones available with daily changes
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besides, there are no new Google updates yet, there's no need to have a new ROM every week, just for the sake of flashing something new every week
if you are a flash addict, might as well go try CM7 or any other ones available with daily changes
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I thank the gods of android that I broke the flash a day rom addiction I'd developed with my i9000 and N1! Such a time consumer trying to keep up on that treadmill.
I really am 95% or better satisfied with stock rom, still.
Might try netarchy kernel, for the voodoo sound improvements though...
+1, although I am still constantly on the forums searching for my daily fix.
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+1, although I am still constantly on the forums searching for my daily fix.
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same reason why i'm here all the time LOL
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same reason why i'm here all the time LOL
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Lol, thank God for CM7 nightlies. Sort of puts my heart at ease. Something to flash daily without doing the whole backup restore shabang between rom builds.
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I still miss flashing new roms constantly like I did on the Evo. I'd try one for a few hours and flash a new one. It'd be completely different. I'm doing the same with kernels now but its not the same lol.
Yes I flased the bionix rom for the Nexus S and, I went into the Vibrant Android development section and flash the newest bionix rom for the Vibrant and, boy it was wow! If I might say. The bionix Team Whiskey rom for the Vibrant is what made me throw out this post; that rom was that great! Besides, the bionix rom for the Nexus S...it just didn't have much of Team Whiskey in it. Coming from the Vibrant's Team whiskey work to the Nexus S Team Whiskey work, you would know something was missing.
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From someone who has never seen Bionix rom on Virbant, please explain what it is that differs the bionix rom for the Virbant to the Nexus S Bionix rom. Does it have different/more fancy graphics?
Team Whiskey ROMS = Great speed, stability, great battery life, updated regularly, etc. 'Nuff said.
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From someone who has never seen Bionix rom on Virbant, please explain what it is that differs the bionix rom for the Virbant to the Nexus S Bionix rom. Does it have different/more fancy graphics?
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Team Whiskey ROMS = Great speed, stability, great battery life, updated regularly, etc. 'Nuff said.
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They're that good, huh? I've been pretty loyal throughout my N1, MT4G and NS days to Cyanogen. During my time with the Vibrant, I was too busy being pissed off at both Samsung and the Odin app to try flashing ROMs besides Eugene's.
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They're that good, huh? I've been pretty loyal throughout my N1, MT4G and NS days to Cyanogen. During my time with the Vibrant, I was too busy being pissed off at both Samsung and the Odin app to try flashing ROMs besides Eugene's.
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They're definitely both of the same caliber. Team whiskey is like Eugene's but embellished with a few more features for those interested. Everyone has their cup of tea.
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They're definitely both of the same caliber. Team whiskey is like Eugene's but embellished with a few more features for those interested. Everyone has their cup of tea.
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No. They're not on the same caliber at all, CyanogenMod and TeamWhiskey's works are two separate things.
CyanogenMod doesn't base their ROMs off OTAs. They base their ROMs from AOSP SOURCE.
Whereas, Team Whiskey use the OTA as the base of their ROM. I'm assuming that when CM7 is released as stable then they'll base their ROMs off that.
But in the end, I will always give the team at CyanogenMod more credit because they are building from AOSP source whereas TeamWhiskey just base off OTAs and add things on top of it.
Flame me all you want, but this is just my two cents and I'm laying out the facts here. I don't have any favoritism to any group or a fanboy of CyanogenMod but I tend to have much more respect for people who build from AOSP source because this takes a lot more effort rather than basing off a ROM that is already built together and adding things on top of it.
I was referring to Team Whiskey and Eugene with regards to the Vibrant.
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I was referring to Team Whiskey and Eugene with regards to the Vibrant.
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Oh okay. Because you quoted something with Cyanogen in there too.
Just saying that the two should never be compared to each other, its a incompatible comparison.
Interesting thread....i kind of agree also. I lve tried a lot of the different roms available for my nexus and every time i keep going back to bionix.
So far i just found them to be the most friendly when it comes to battery life...also extremely speedy and stable overall.
I would likr to see more themes and customisation options tho. But yep...overall, you cant really go wrong with bionix. I been on the beta 1.3 release for about 2 weeks now and no real issues.
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ya, this is way off...i didn't ask how CyanogenMod differs from Team Whiskey. This has nothing to do with CyanogenMod.
I asked how the Team Whiskey Bionix rom for the Vibrant differs from the Team Whiskey Bionix rom for the Nexus S? The author of the quoted message above stated that the Virbant version is better and I would like to know in which ways since I can't compare the two. I'm still wondering if anyone can answer please.
I've made Espresso ROM For The Droid X. And Will Now Finally Get It To The Fascinate. My Plan Was To Get It To All The Galaxy S Varients, Nexus One, Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Droid Charge, HTC My Touch 4G, HTC Droid Incredible, Wildfire, HTC Hero, Original HTC Desire, HTC G2 (Desire Z) And Aria.
When Will Espresso ROM Be Released?
Later This Week.
(If You Search Over On The Droid X Forums, You'll Find My ROMs Including Espresso, & Doubleshot)
awesome, more "coming soon" threads...ugh
Mtd or BML ?
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Fascinate MTD.
Thanks JT!
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Thanks JT!
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...JT?? Wheres jt?
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...JT?? Wheres jt?
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His point is that JTs work on the fascinate is the reason all of these other mtd based roms are being ported to our device now.
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His point is that JTs work on the fascinate is the reason all of these other mtd based roms are being ported to our device now.
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Ahhh! Gotcha. Thanks
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I've made Espresso ROM For The Droid X. And Will Now Finally Get It To The Fascinate. My Plan Was To Get It To All The Galaxy S Varients, Nexus One, Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Droid Charge, HTC My Touch 4G, HTC Droid Incredible, Wildfire, HTC Hero, Original HTC Desire, HTC G2 (Desire Z) And Aria.
When Will Espresso ROM Be Released?
Later This Week.
(If You Search Over On The Droid X Forums, You'll Find My ROMs Including Espresso, & Doubleshot)
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Umm..so far all the Gingerbread roms that are out are still having some issues...low in- call volume, no hardware acceleration(videos), no flashlight...etc...and aren't quite fully functional as Froyo is just yet..which is perfectly understandable...
I was just wondering if your up coming rom will still have those issues....or if you are going to blow our minds with a fully functional Gingerbread rom for the Fasciante...
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Umm..so far all the Gingerbread roms that are out are still having some issues...low in- call volume, no hardware acceleration(videos), no flashlight...etc...and aren't quite fully functional as Froyo is just yet..which is perfectly understandable...
I was just wondering if your up coming rom will still have those issues....or if you are going to blow our minds with a fully functional Gingerbread rom for the Fasciante...
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Completely understand your frustration. Unfortunately, if the devs don't have a full, stable source drop to work with, we really can't hold the current crop of common /generally recognized GB issues against them. Heck, they're probably more frustrated about it than the rest of us
OP, I look forward to the upcoming release and maturation of your project!
Another option would be terrific, but good luck with the SD card!
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dont feel like its personal if you are met with flak about "new and upcoming" roms here. you can thank Tonu for that.
but good luck either way man!
My point is that no legit devs post coming soon ****...they work on something then release it...hype is just lame and time after time these threads end in disappointment or the rom just doesn't offer anything worth a hype thread
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My point is that no legit devs post coming soon ****...they work on something then release it...hype is just lame and time after time these threads end in disappointment or the rom just doesn't offer anything worth a hype thread
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please nitsuj. I want NO beef but, cut the kid some slack, he's just trying to help everyone, trying to make our phones better. u guys have a coming soon tab on the tsm site ....but anyway he seems like a good kid trying to help. let's give him a break. what he makes could be really good. please don't push people down before we see what they can do. hahah I mean cmon
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please nitsuj. I want NO beef but, cut the kid some slack, he's just trying to help everyone, trying to make our phones better. u guys have a coming soon tab on the tsm site ....but anyway he seems like a good kid trying to help. let's give him a break. what he makes could be really good. please don't push people down before we see what they can do. hahah I mean cmon
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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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I do know one of my roms will have 2.4 Ice Cream when google releases the SDK. But most are AOSP coupled with Touchwiz. They will also come with my version of The JIT Compiler. They will also come with my version of build.prop tweaks. And more.
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yes on our *website* we have a coming soon tab..we dont make those posts on xda
if he has something good...then great
the work would stand on its own without hype...but i looked at his post history and there are nothing but coming soon threads for various phones
*if* one is going to do this type of thread, at least list what the rom is comprised of (aosp, tw, other) what differentiates it from other existing roms (besides a theme, there are enough throms out there) and why it needs to be hyped up
either way ill eject myself from the thread now
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The nexus one just got the Espresso Rom yesterday.
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The nexus one just got the Espresso Rom yesterday.
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yes and its about the most vague op ive ever seen...and for the fascinate u wont just be compiling off the sdk...you ll have to kang jt's mtd setup or ull never release anything
Getting an atrix to play with and have a couple questions.
is there an Miui?
How many custom roms are there?
What are people looking for in custom roms?
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1) MIUI in progress, look in the dev forum, should be a thread there
2) there are a lot of custom roms based on the stock GB firmware and the CM7 firmware(all with various tweaks). I really don't know how much though.. 10? refer to #1.
3) personally I need something lean and fast... I could care less about fingerprint and webtop.
If I got the the right rdannar, he is a talented dev from the x10 forum a while back. I hope you consider producing a Rom or two. What we need is if possible a very light blur Rom built for speed and fully functional. Or you can team up with the miui or cm team for webtop ideas. Glad your considering helping us with the ATRIX. Welcome.
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If I got the the right rdannar, he is a talented dev from the x10 forum a while back. I hope you consider producing a Rom or two. What we need is if possible a very light blur Rom built for speed and fully functional. Or you can team up with the miui or cm team for webtop ideas. Glad your considering helping us with the ATRIX. Welcome.
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Ninja, Darkside, Aura, CM7 (All the roms based on CM7 as well) are either de-blurred or have 2 different versions, one with blur or very minimal blur. What exactly are you looking for?
1. MIUI is currently in Alpha 2, no details on the Beta release yet, but here's the thread.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383721
2. Quite a few ROM's for the Atrix.
-Darkside ROM (Nottach)
-Alien ROM (Kenneth from Briefmobile, not being updated)
-Aura (Diviance, not being updated anymore I believe)
-CM7 (Atrix Dev Team, working on CM9 now)
-Ninja (Sam Cripp)
-GingerMod (Evogp)
-RedPill and RedPill CM7 Hybrid (Dorian from Atrix Forums Website)
There's more but that's some of them, most of them rather that I know are still on the 1-2 page.
3. Mainly, when I look to flash a ROM, I would like it to be stable, smooth, fast, minimal blur or none at all.
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If I got the the right rdannar, he is a talented dev from the x10 forum a while back. I hope you consider producing a Rom or two. What we need is if possible a very light blur Rom built for speed and fully functional. Or you can team up with the miui or cm team for webtop ideas. Glad your considering helping us with the ATRIX. Welcome.
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I was okay on x10. I am more of a cook or porter with some Dev skills. I puta lot of roms out for x10. the good old days. then did some ROM for the Motorola bravo, lg thrill, galaxy s2, and soon this I hope.
I know people ask this all time, but was asking for other reasons then noobs do. Thanks for the info everyone. I could search but liked the feedback of users.
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lean and fast i mean real lean and fast is
neutreno rom by notorious544
fastest benchmarks of any rom; cm7 based or blur for atrix yet i was 14 pionts shy of 7000 on antutu
bench with fauxs old 1.4.5 kernal
with no undervolt and.maxed.min and max
I use neutrino (hopefully I spelled that correctly). Also welcome to the Atrix side glad to have you. There is a KANG CM9 in progress but the OP on that thread doesn't seem to have much more to say.
The Atrix Dev Team are great guys I think they would be happy if you could help them.
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I was okay on x10. I am more of a cook or porter with some Dev skills. I puta lot of roms out for x10. the good old days. then did some ROM for the Motorola bravo, lg thrill, galaxy s2, and soon this I hope.
I know people ask this all time, but was asking for other reasons then noobs do. Thanks for the info everyone. I could search but liked the feedback of users.
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Hope you like the atrix! Coming from the x10 I sure do!
I can tell you what i'm looking for in custom roms though. ICS! We have a port but it's really an alpha, much like the x10 one.
See? ... Another proof that the Atrix 4G is still very alive and kicking!!!
(in reference to another post where pessimistic AT&T employees are saying that the Atrix 4G has reached it's end of life.)
Welcome to the Atrix rdannar
Thanks for all feedback.. I should have it today. The first thing I usually do is deblur and slim down a rom to get used to its files... Then theme and framework.. Then who knows? I have a Gs2 that I do roms (waiting for ics and new computer to do more) for so this will be a toy...
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Can we get an updated sticky poll on who is using what roms these days?
bump.
I'm using the PrimeXL Sense 3.5 ROM currently. Before that, I was on the InfectedROM for a while. Before that, I was on Synergy for a long time.
I've toyed with Energy, MIUI, and a few others, but I find the Sense 3.5 UI and widgets fit my needs the best so far...
I thought you needed 10 posts to post in the dev section??
Either way, why didn't you just make one?
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I thought you needed 10 posts to post in the dev section??
Either way, why didn't you just make one?
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+1________
Does LTE work?
JK....I am currently using Decks or classic tomato.
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I flashed a lot of roms om my HTC EVO 4G, cant stop, if I flashed less than 10 roms a day I feel bad. Some of my roms: MikFroyo, CM7, Deck, Virus.
I have MikG 3.0 on my evo right now.
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I thought you needed 10 posts to post in the dev section??
Either way, why didn't you just make one?
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See, I thought so too, but it must be 10 posts, or after a year...there must be a seconds stipulation. I've seen more lurkers 1 year+ posting more in the dev section with less then 10 posts, so it would prove my theory.
Mikg with anthrax or decks gb with tiamat 3.3.7
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Are you developing a poll? Lol
ICSmod7 here for a while now. Good, solid CM base, with nice theming and animations.
Can we get a poll? Do you propose we take a poll to see if a poll is warranted ? In the dev section, no less?
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Why is this in development section, should be moved to general or Q&A.
Running KushDeck's ICS ROM Alpha 2. since I've rooted my phone I have only ran ICS ROMs on my Evo 4G lol I want nothing to do with sense lol I did however try flashing the ICS Sense ROM but, hated it because it was Sense lol
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...-jelly-bean-source-is-now-being-released-r955
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-released-to-aosp-right-now/
Damn it you beat me to the punch lol
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CM10 soon!!!!!!
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
lets see how fast we see something for s3
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hopefully we get CM9 support first
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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Why would they make CM9 for this phone when JB source is released? Lol that makes absolutely no sense.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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I believe it was said that jb code is very similar to ics. Cm9 is very close for us. A stable cm9 to cm10 would probably be faster than cm10 built from scratch. Just a guess though, I'm not a dev.
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Nah I mean working off of CM9 would make sense if they could just merge the changes but I doubt it would officially be released just for them to release CM10 after that.
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I really hope we get CM7 before that
/sarcasm
really? why would you want the outdated one?
The CM team is merging the update as we speak. I think we will probably just get CM10 and not CM9 first (could be wrong though)
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We will get CM10 before CM9. All development on CM9 is being ceased after version 1.0.0. Just be patient, the source was uploaded something like 2 or 3 hours ago.
I think we will have something by next week
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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I think we'll have something by tomorrow morning.. ;-)
Joking aside, this is cool to see.
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Joke? don't underestimate the developers on THIS phone, of all phones ) I'm gonna definatelly keep an eye on these forums. if nothing else i expect someone starting a WIP thread, an AOSP built rom, most likely not fully functional ofcourse, but compiled enough to boot up, just to give us a taste while development begins in earnest
This is just what was needed to jump-start development for the SIII
I'm curious, with Verizon's S3 flashing abilities currently being limited to roms stripped of kernels, how will this affect a jellybean rom? Is the ics kernel the same as the jb kernel?
Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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Reason people are saying that we could see CM10 soon is because the CM team think the code should be able to merge right into what they have with CM9, and not break that many things. With CM7 to CM9, they had to basically do everything from the ground up again because ICS was such a huge update over GB. Now JB isn't that big of an upgrade over ICS, in a way it is, but in a way it isn't. Sorry if that sounds confusing.
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That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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Just rambling here, no disrespect intended and none meant at all just want to learn as much as possible....ICS source has been available the whole time, why wouldn't we have seen a CM9 build if it were that simple (as to have source)? Just cause source for 4.1 is out, it is going to make it that much easier to build an AOSP rom now? Again just trying to learn I know people are pretty snappy at questions like these, lol.
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I am no dev, but heres how i understand it works;
we start with an announcement of an OS, this is done generally at Google I/O or a Nexus Event, in this case was Google I/O.
On the announcement day, devs receive the SDK; Software Development Kit.
This is released to allow the devs to begin making apps that match and run on the new OS. However, aspiring rom devs then begin to build a rom off the released SDK, generally called an sdk port.
These tend to be made simply to give us an idea of how the system would work and function, and generally might boot up and have a couple working things, but major things tend not to function because the SDK is not made for that.
Then comes the Source code, this is the real deal, it is full code of the system, code that can then be compiled to produce a fully working system, or nearly fully working. Only thing that remains missing is proprietary drivers and such, these tend to be the things specific to each phone, files that would make particular chips work, particular functions, the specific phone kernel, etc. but once you have the source code, you're over 80% done as far as having the resources needed to develop a full rom. at this stage, some devs can produce a fully working, stellar rom, but it will take quite a bit more work than devs who choose to wait for the final stage
Then comes the OTA. this is where all the device-specific stuff comes to the devices, and devs have the absolute and complete freedom to produce a fully working, better than stock, experience. This is where roms flood the dev forums.
So as far as not having AOSP yet, and now this is our chance at AOSP? No, thats not why we dont have AOSP. we dont have it cause no one built it yet; the Touchwiz UX is sooo integrated in the system that untangling and taking it all out is a long and drawn out process, and theyd need to deconstruct what we currently have, take out elements of touchwiz until its all clean, all the while making sure it doesnt break anything else.
but getting the jellybean source code propels devs because now this is a new OS, a new AOSP with its own new interesting properties. and because Jelly bean is a small update compared to ICS, now that we have source code, many of the device specific stuff wont be broken by implementing jellybean code into it, therefore building a Jellybean rom is a faster path to AOSP than untangling the current ICS for Galaxy S III
Does that make sense?
mt3g said:
That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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AOSP in this case is talking about the actual Android Open Source Project. so it is a bunch of code. so why are we excited? we've had ICS AOSP code for nearly a year now, what we dont have is AOSP roms. building an ICS AOSP rom is much harder than building a JB Rom, and we currently have icecream sandwich on the SIII even if its touchwized, and undoing touchwiz is quite a bit of work. but Jellybean...Oh Jellybean, now we got the source, we will start getting that baby soon and it'll boost dev on these devices. make sense?
mt3g said:
That's easy to understand, and not what I'm asking... what you are saying is its easy to incorporate 4.1 to 4.0, just like it was easy to go to 2.2 to 2.3... I'm asking why is everyone so excited to get 4.1 AOSP, when we don't even have 4.0 AOSP?
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Not sure if you were trying to come off rude or not, but people are excited because its the newest update, duh. Reason being we don't have 4.0 AOSP is because the phone hasn't been out that long for the US carriers.