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Is there a way i can disable calling from my tab? i would like to use the 3G data only with no voice, I guess i can try flashing the American Firmware or ROM but i dont want to do that since it will no longer read Arabic. But if there is any way where i can strap the voice drivers that will be good.
I believe you should be able to do that by asking your provider for a SIM with data only
Unfortunatly they dont get it, i tried several times but they are so stupid.
No actual help with the main issuehere, but a question or two.
If you never give out the number, what's the difference in having it there or not if your carrier isn't going to give you a SIM that bills differently? You can choose not to call out, and I'd imagine if you never give the number out the chances/frequency of random wrong number calls is pretty low. I guess I'm just wondering what benefit you'd gain by disabling voice.
Your best bet is to flash a modem from another tab. I mean on my T-Mobile voice is disabled and 3g works.
From the Tab.
www.twitter.com/ayman07
Rotohammer came up with a modem Switcher that can switch between 3G or 2G+phone. The instructions are listed here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871021
Hi I have just asked my provider to help make my tab work as a "phone" and was told I couldn't unless I enabled VOIP for $10 P/M
I'm not too happy about this and told them so!!!
They have come to an arrangement with me but I'm still not happy because It still sounds like VOIP to me and over 3g it drops out.
Is there a way to prove this traffic is actually data/voip
my interface shows up as SVNET0 I can capture the the UDP protocol by using OSMonitor but I don't think that is detailed enough.....
cheers for any help
PS I am running stock FROYO
First off. Who is your carrier? If you're in the US no carrier will give you voice service only data. In order to enable voice for a Tab in the US you will need to root it and then do some homework by searching through XDA. In other countries that do allow voice and data on the Tab, your mobile plan should be like any other smart phone.
cheers
Well first off I'm with Optus, and the girl tried to offer me an add on voip service to allow phone calls.
anyhow I was watching my data interfaces and sure enough they do move while on a "Voice/3g" call so although all digital transmissions could be data, these ones are UDP in particular which points to VOIP...
just need more details.....
cheers anyways
So This might sound a little odd.
I am moving about the country quite a bit in the next few months, and I work in northern bc/alaska where there is no cell towers. I am curious if it is possible to get a data only sim for my phone and use google voice with my number ported over. Or possibly a SIP account with a number. I use my phone on wifi where I am working currently and I use skype, works great but I cant get a canadian skype number which means no one can call my existing phone number and have it get through to me.
I Dislike the Idea of having to switch a whole bunch of providers and I like the idea of getting a data sim and just having a flat monthly rate. But is that even possible?
Any ideas/suggestions?
Worst case I can get a new number from my provider and have my existing number ported to google voice, as I am on an unlimited data plan but then I am still paying for all the extras of having a phone and not just data. I really would like to keep my existing number as I have had it forever and use it for work purposes.
Not in the exact situation as you, but similar. I travel outside of the country often and usually have wifi (hotel, etc.). Groove IP from the market is the easiest solution. As long as you have data 3g/4g/wifi, you can receive and make calls to any US number using your google voice number. It has a separate dialer, but you can set it to use the native dialer as well (it will prompt you if you want to use grooveip or regular cell towers). Just read the instructions on it well (forwarding calls to google chat), and it's the best $5 I've spent. No hassle.
Obviously, the better data signal you have, the better the call quality is.
(I am not affiliated with Groove IP in any way)
Hmm well that app actually does almost exactly what I would like to do. Thanks for the info.
Hi everyone, last week i bought a galaxy tab 7.7 lte after reading it could make calls but didnt realise the stripped out tbiz feature in us models till i got home. I searched the net hoping to find a hack of somekind to re enable this feature to no avail. I have the graNdfathered unlimited plan and wanted to use my own verizon number to make and recieve calls, i guess the next best thing is to use google voice and groove ip? I have no idea how to set it up as my only number i have read about it but it just confuses me so came on here boping to. Get some help. If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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Hi everyone, last week i bought a galaxy tab 7.7 lte after reading it could make calls but didnt realise the stripped out tbiz feature in us models till i got home. I searched the net hoping to find a hack of somekind to re enable this feature to no avail. I have the graNdfathered unlimited plan and wanted to use my own verizon number to make and recieve calls, i guess the next best thing is to use google voice and groove ip? I have no idea how to set it up as my only number i have read about it but it just confuses me so came on here boping to. Get some help. If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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Here's the problem: US carriers are very greedy. As such, a single device that "does it all" is bad for business. Think about it. If you got a tablet that also doubled as your phone, then that's a tethering fee they can't get you on if you had a wifi-only tablet paired up to your smartphone. OR that's a whole other data subscription, just for your tablet, that they aren't getting your money for either.
US carriers don't like all-in-one devices... That's why you'll never see a US device with all the features of the international version of the same device.
Here's my advice for you: Give Verizon a big fat middle finger by returning the VZW version of the 7.7, buying the international 3G version (P6800) instead, port your existing number over to StraightTalk for $45 a month, unlimited everything, pay as you go, and cancel your VZW contract.
People in the US need to get out of this 2-year agreement dependency BS... That's how carriers are able to gouge us for 3 and 4 times as much as everyone else around the world who are mostly pay-as-you-go. PAYG is much more competitive, and the consumer benefits from it.
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Here's the problem: US carriers are very greedy. As such, a single device that "does it all" is bad for business. Think about it. If you got a tablet that also doubled as your phone, then that's a tethering fee they can't get you on if you had a wifi-only tablet paired up to your smartphone. OR that's a whole other data subscription, just for your tablet, that they aren't getting your money for either.
US carriers don't like all-in-one devices... That's why you'll never see a US device with all the features of the international version of the same device.
Here's my advice for you: Give Verizon a big fat middle finger by returning the VZW version of the 7.7, buying the international 3G version (P6800) instead, port your existing number over to StraightTalk for $45 a month, unlimited everything, pay as you go, and cancel your VZW contract.
People in the US need to get out of this 2-year agreement dependency BS... That's how carriers are able to gouge us for 3 and 4 times as much as everyone else around the world who are mostly pay-as-you-go. PAYG is much more competitive, and the consumer benefits from it.
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I whole heartly agree.... when my contract with ATT is up.. Im doing this very thing.. thanks J.E.W...
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If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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As everyone mentioned, your vzw sim is for data only, but for gvoice calls (& voip internet calling) you only need data to work in order to make calls. If you intend to keep your vzw tab, you can try this:
Go to google.com/voice & setup a google voice account & choose a gvoice phone #. You need to do this from a laptop or pc, won't work from tab or phone. You may be required to setup at least one phone for forwarding to complete setup, you can use your cell or home phone, you can always go back later & uncheck forwarding or delete that phone from your gvoice acct.
After setup, at top right of web page, look for pic of gear (settings/options), be sure to select/check off forward to your gmail address.
Be sure your vzw sim is activated & in your tablet.
On your tab go to google play/market & download gvoice app & follow the setup guide. Gvoice will attempt too send a text from your tab which notifies google voice of your tab's phone # configures Gvoice to sync & forward with your new tab. Next download grooveip & follow the setup. You should be golden
I use a prepaid GoPhone sim in my gsm 7.7 tab for calls, text & 3G. If you have good att signal near you & can do without the remote control infrared on the vzw version & can still return your vzw tab, get a p6800. You will not be disappointed
Good Luck
Magickly said:
As everyone mentioned, your vzw sim is for data only, but for gvoice calls (& voip internet calling) you only need data to work in order to make calls. If you intend to keep your vzw tab, you can try this:
Go to google.com/voice & setup a google voice account & choose a gvoice phone #. You need to do this from a laptop or pc, won't work from tab or phone. You may be required to setup at least one phone for forwarding to complete setup, you can use your cell or home phone, you can always go back later & uncheck forwarding or delete that phone from your gvoice acct.
After setup, at top right of web page, look for pic of gear (settings/options), be sure to select/check off forward to your gmail address.
Be sure your vzw sim is activated & in your tablet.
On your tab go to google play/market & download gvoice app & follow the setup guide. Gvoice will attempt too send a text from your tab which notifies google voice of your tab's phone # configures Gvoice to sync & forward with your new tab. Next download grooveip & follow the setup. You should be golden
I use a prepaid GoPhone sim in my gsm 7.7 tab for calls, text & 3G. If you have good att signal near you & can do without the remote control infrared on the vzw version & can still return your vzw tab, get a p6800. You will not be disappointed
Good Luck
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I have the US Verizon version of the 7.7 and it has 4g. Will this setup work with it. I set it up as per your instructions and hope it works but a confirmation from you would be nice.
My company paid for the 7.7 as well as foots the bill for the monthly unlimited 4G data w/ Verizon (I just swap the SIM out between my MiFi and the 7.7 depending on which one i would bring with me). I actually prefer the awesome speed of LTE.
I have got GrooveIP working w/ my Gvoice account to make & receive VOIP calls. (Thanks 2 Asenduk who pointed out the setting that was making it not work on mine).
I just wish the bluetooth would work with the 7.7 as a phone and not just "media" as when I bought one of those bluetooth mini handsets it only lets you talk on it but does not let you answer or end the call from the handset (nor gives you caller id or ringing indicator at all).
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I have the US Verizon version of the 7.7 and it has 4g. Will this setup work with it. I set it up as per your instructions and hope it works but a confirmation from you would be nice.
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If you already have it setup, why not just test it out ?
I can say that I just set this up on my sister's VZW 7.7 GTab & it works flawlessly using free version of GrooveIP Lite. She already had a gvoice # setup w/forwarding to her cell, I just added GVoice app to her tab & configured to her GVoice, and of course, installed GrooveIP Lite app & Bam !
You may need to enable (check box) to "send calls to GoogleChat" option in google voice for incoming, on some devices this was necessary for me
I'm off to pay for full version of GrooveIP, cuz they deserve it
Hello all. Im pretty excited about my nexus 7 lte so i figured i would help grow this currently small section on it. Having verizon and knowing how people have complained about not being able to activate their tablet on it, I came up with a pretty good way to swap your sim card into it without missing phone calls. I made a youtube video about it but I will also explain it briefly here.
you tube (dot) com (forwardslash) watch?v=GFkIR1elWug
Here are the apps you need on your phone:
Google voice
simple call forwarding (optional but the included widget makes life so much easier)
The apps needed for your tablet:
GrooveIP (or talkatone, I have both but prefer grooveIP) {Check Autostart in the App settings}
RFRSH- Refresh for Android (optional, but the autostart makes the dialer your first screen if you want to make a call)
(Root and bootloader unlocking NOT needed on either)
Basically, you set up google voice on your phone with a number.
then you set up simple call forwarding by selecting your carrier and the google voice number.
add the included widget to your homescreen and click on it to toggle it on.
the widget will place a brief call resulting in all mobile calls being forwarded to your google voice number.
An icon will show in the top left corner reminding you that call forwarding is on. You can power off your phone.
Remove microsim from phone and place into sim tray of nexus 7 using included sim tray key.
Power on tablet.
Set up grooveIP to use your googlevoice number to make calls. Try calling your house to verify it is working. It will also handle
text messages but they are only from your google voice number. {Use Verizon Messages app on your tablet to send sms.}
(Using the latest cyanogenmod builds on your phone include voice+ which allows you to text through any app with your google voice number.
This is a good incentive to ditch your text messaging plan and use google voice for all your texting anyway.)
Launch refresh for android. In the launcher tab, add grooveIP to the list so it autostarts at every boot up.
Reboot your tablet to verify it worked. It might take a few seconds but it should automatically load grooveip. This ensures you
never miss a call since call forwarding is on and you never forget to load the app since it autostarts.
To deactivate when youre done with your tablet-
Power off tablet. remove microsim and place in phone.
Power on phone. Once booted up, click on simple call forwarding widget to toggle of call forwarding.
It will place a brief call to turn off call forwading. Once it is off, you are back to normal!
I hope this has helped a few people. It works great so far. Let me know if you have a better way to do it. I am still working on the SMS part of it.:laugh:
~sigh~ dude really?
There's so much wrong with this post that its impressive.
1-No you do not need to use RFRSH to make GrooveIP auto-start, you just have to set GrooveIP to autostart in its settings
2-What does activating a SIM in a phone have to do with anything?
3-Using a Verizon phone SIM card means you're using a "phone" plan as opposed to a data only plan. This will cost a lot more money and is forbidden by the Verizon terms of use in the contract you signed when you got your phone plan. Gotta love wasting moneys!
4-None of this Google Voice-related information is new and none of it is specific to the Nexus 7 in any capacity.
5-This is a DEVELOPER forum and, as it explains at the top of the forum, not a place for you to be posting this sort of thing, especially when this is literally your first XDA post, and in the first paragraph of said post you ask people to go check out your YouTube page.
Maybe go troll for traffic somewhere else?
Well, I think he is just very proud that he got it working.
But...there is a simpler way.
Verizon provides free call forwarding at this web page:
https://wbillpay.verizonwireless.com/vzw/secure/services/CallForward.action
You can forward only if no answer, or forward immediately.
I use forward if no answer, and my tapatalk app starts ringing on the 4th or 5th ring.
Verizon also provides a free texting app which can be used on PC or tablets.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en
Once it is setup you can even power off your phone and still send and receive texts from PC or tablet.
So, I don't need to make a uTube video of it.
And yes, this probably belongs in the General forum.
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Well, I think he is just very proud that he got it working.
But...there is a simpler way.
Verizon provides free call forwarding at this web page:
https://wbillpay.verizonwireless.com/vzw/secure/services/CallForward.action
You can forward only if no answer, or forward immediately.
I use forward if no answer, and my tapatalk app starts ringing on the 4th or 5th ring.
Verizon also provides a free texting app which can be used on PC or tablets.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs&hl=en
Once it is setup you can even power off your phone and still send and receive texts from PC or tablet.
So, I don't need to make a uTube video of it.
And yes, this probably belongs in the General forum.
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correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't verizon charge like $0.10 per minute per forwarded call regardless whether it's nights and weekend or the minutes or you have in your plan?
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correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't verizon charge like $0.10 per minute per forwarded call regardless whether it's nights and weekend or the minutes or you have in your plan?
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http://support.verizonwireless.com/support/features/calling_features/call_forwarding.html
Call Forwarding is automatically included with new activations, and there are no subscription fees for the service. However, airtime charges apply to all forwarded calls according to your calling plan, even when forwarding to a landline.
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I do not think there is any method of forwarding calls from Verizon without it using your plan's minutes. So it is best to tell people your google voice telephone number, and use tapatalk/grooveIP on both phone and tablet.
Regards
P. S. Call forwarding during nights and weekends
https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/794117
http://www.howardforums.com/printthread.php?t=172532&styleid=46
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~sigh~ dude really?
There's so much wrong with this post that its impressive.
1-No you do not need to use RFRSH to make GrooveIP auto-start, you just have to set GrooveIP to autostart in its settings
2-What does activating a SIM in a phone have to do with anything?
3-Using a Verizon phone SIM card means you're using a "phone" plan as opposed to a data only plan. This will cost a lot more money and is forbidden by the Verizon terms of use in the contract you signed when you got your phone plan. Gotta love wasting moneys!
4-None of this Google Voice-related information is new and none of it is specific to the Nexus 7 in any capacity.
5-This is a DEVELOPER forum and, as it explains at the top of the forum, not a place for you to be posting this sort of thing, especially when this is literally your first XDA post, and in the first paragraph of said post you ask people to go check out your YouTube page.
Maybe go troll for traffic somewhere else?
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~sigh~ You probably felt the same way I felt after reading your post- surprised and annoyed.
I'm glad you are impressed. It was my first post, after all.
1- You are correct. I bought GrooveIP a long time ago and the version either did not have the autostart option or I missed it. Either way, you did provide this shred of beneficial information in your post. For that I thanK YOU.
2- Verizon will NOT allow you to activate the Nexus 7 LTE on their network even though it works fine. I'd post a youtube link with more information, but you might mistake it for trolling so I'll just tell you to GOOGLE it.
3- If you want to whine about the terms of Verizon's contract then do it somewhere else because you're preaching to deaf ears. This is a forum for people to use rooting and roms and tethering and plenty of other things Verizon doesn't want us to do yet here we are exploring options and learning new things. Those of us grandfathered on the unlimited data plan are not wasting money- this is who benefits from this. I guess you weren't that lucky. Don't worry, its ok.
4- I never said nor implied the Goole Voice information is new. When you think of it, just about everything on the web is recycled. This IS specific to the Nexus 7 LTE. Try to find another tablet that works on Verizon's LTE network that they WILL NOT let you activate. There are no others. This is a solution to help people who bought the tablet for Verizon and can't use it.
5- I did not see what you are mentioning at the top of the forum but I did find the forum rules. Here is Rule 2.3 for YOU
"2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner." If a moderator could kindly move this thread to the General section, I'd appreciate it.
I never asked anyone to check out my youtube video. I mentioned that I made a video. People can check it out for clarification if they want to.
I wrote my intentions in the beginning- "i would help grow this currently small section". This is not trolling.
I used to belong to a different forum for a few years until I got fed up when it became a bloodbath of the veterans picking on the newbies. See Rule 2.3 again, dude.
(HowardZ, you have been thanked.)
Linked your link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFkIR1elWug
Good stuff. Thanks for the information. I've always wanted to dabble with GrooveIP and my Google Voice number. I have a good setup now, but it would be cool to play around to see if I could benefit from any of it.
Ok, the thread has been moved to the proper section. I also updated the Youtube video to explain how to autostart GrooveIP in its settings tab and to use Verizon Messages app to send sms on your tablet.
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Ok, the thread has been moved to the proper section. I also updated the Youtube video to explain how to autostart GrooveIP in its settings tab and to use Verizon Messages app to send sms on your tablet.
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I have been finding that whether I use GrooveIP (paid version) or Talkatone (free version), that sometimes the tablet does not receive incoming calls, and the calls instead go to Google Voice voice-mail.
I have moved the microSIM card back to my phone, because I do not want to miss calls.
Reliability is more important.
So, currently I keep the SIM in my Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod with WiFi teather turned ON all the time. Then on my tablet (stock rooted) I use the "WIFI Prioritizer" free app so that the tablet will only auto connect to the S4 Wifi hotspot as the last resort - the last choice among all other WiFi hotspots stored in the phone. So I carry the S4 in a holster on my hip and will only use it for phone calls. For texts I use the Verizon messaging app on the tablet, and of course email and anything for the internet looks much better on the tablet.
I'd prefer to do everything on the Nexus 7 LTE and leave the phone powered off. But any VOIP solution must answer all phone calls - it needs to be rock solid reliable.
HowardZ said:
I have been finding that whether I use GrooveIP (paid version) or Talkatone (free version), that sometimes the tablet does not receive incoming calls, and the calls instead go to Google Voice voice-mail.
I have moved the microSIM card back to my phone, because I do not want to miss calls.
Reliability is more important.
So, currently I keep the SIM in my Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod with WiFi teather turned ON all the time. Then on my tablet (stock rooted) I use the "WIFI Prioritizer" free app so that the tablet will only auto connect to the S4 Wifi hotspot as the last resort - the last choice among all other WiFi hotspots stored in the phone. So I carry the S4 in a holster on my hip and will only use it for phone calls. For texts I use the Verizon messaging app on the tablet, and of course email and anything for the internet looks much better on the tablet.
I'd prefer to do everything on the Nexus 7 LTE and leave the phone powered off. But any VOIP solution must answer all phone calls - it needs to be rock solid reliable.
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How is your battery after leaving wifi tether on all the time? Does tasker have a profile to use it only at certain times? i guess it must be a lot better than mine- the galaxy nexus i just replaced ran out of juice too quickly for that to be an option. With my new moto x, that may be an option i will try, especially since they use different size sim cards- need adapter.
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How is your battery after leaving wifi tether on all the time? Does tasker have a profile to use it only at certain times? i guess it must be a lot better than mine- the galaxy nexus i just replaced ran out of juice too quickly for that to be an option. With my new moto x, that may be an option i will try, especially since they use different size sim cards- need adapter.
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Short answer: 5% to 10% per hour battery consumption on the Samsung Galaxy S4 (verizon) using the latest Cyanogenmod 10.2
The phone consumed 18% battery for the last 3 hours 7 minutes. However the entire time I have been in a WiFi area, so the N7LTE is not WiFi connected to the phone. The phone's WiFi hotspot is ON, but I suspect its LTE radio will use more battery power if it actually has data to transmit on behalf of the tablet.
I do not use Tasker.
It is nice that the N7LTE tablet and my Samsung Galaxy S4 (verizon) use the same size SIM card.
However, you should consider the following:
1. The vast majority of the time I am in a WiFi area. This means the N7LTE tablet is not WiFi connected to the phone. This is assured by using the free "WiFi Prioritizer" app. Minimizing use of the phone's Wifi hotspot assures lower plan data usage (I do not have unlimited data).
2. The phone is only touched for phone calls, so at some point I think it goes to deep sleep which reduces battery usage. Or perhaps Wifi Hotspot being on will not allow it to go to sleep?
3. Texts are handled by the free Verizon Messaging app running on the tablet - because all apps look and operate nicer on a tablet.
4. Phone is only used for actual voice cell phone calls.
There are other alternatives I can use, but they will modestly increase the monthly costs. For example I can move the phone's verizon microSIM card back into the N7LTE and:
1. Pay Skype $5 per month for a SKYPE phone number and $3 per month for unlimited calling to USA real phone numbers. Skype has a reputation of working very well - unlike google voice. This is back to carrying around only the N7LTE tablet, but paying for Skype because Google Voice is not reliable for me. OR,
2. Activate one of my old verizon dumb-phones for $10 per month and use that for actual phone calls. In this scenario the tablet gets its DATA via the verizon microSIM card inside it via LTE. A dumb phone is much smaller and lighter than a smart phone, and the battery charge lasts much much longer.