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not receiving calls in force EVDO or 1x mode

hey there just wanted to share my experience for those who might have the same problem. I tried using force EVDO mode (default is hybrid) and could no longer receive calls or text until i called someone. (calling out worked). I also read that someone had the same problem in force 1x mode. Just a heads up since it took me a while to figure out what was wrong. Not sure if others have had this problem and couldnt find it in any searches.

I had the same issue withing the first 30 days of release and actually returned two non Google branded phones. Tech support was unable to figure out why i was not receiving calls and advised me to return them. They tried rebuilding my account, re-provisioning ect. I only figured out what was going on after i was unable to get a call on the third phone immediately after changing the setting to evdo only. that was november 2nd and i have not had any issues since.

still happens on google branded phones. I too did the whole reprovisioning, factory reset, nandroid restores, and finally got a new phone. Tech support does not know about this problem.

i searched this a while back, when i got a "web page unavailable error" in the browser when i was trying to browse the internet during a call.
basically what i found out (google searching) is that our phones send calls and texts over the 1x data network. and the phone is unable to connect to both evdo and 1x at the same time.
that's why every time you send a text it drops down to 1x for a second and when you are in a call you cant use the internet.
some phones can do it but the sprint hero cannot.
i'll try to find the link to the article i was reading, but you can find it by searching google.
EDIT:
http://androidforums.com/sprint/10700-call-surfing-same-time-possible-not.html
here is just one post from another forum.
that's why you have to leave that setting on hybrid, because in order to send calls/texts the phone has to switch networks.
hope this helps

Just to clear something up
Google branded or not its the same damn phone. absolutly nothing different between the two besides the branding
And yes, CDMA cannot connect to data while on a call but I thought text could be sent through EVDO. Ive d/l files quite a bit and when I recieve a text it countinues to download with what no interference.
I see that as a Sprint issue, or if the phone is defective in some way. If anyone is experiance this issue, try to load a custom rom or if you are on one flash the RUU and if that doesnt help contact Sprint.

kylez64 said:
Google branded or not its the same damn phone. absolutly nothing different between the two besides the branding
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there are differences, i have a htc branded phone and it came with 1.29 firmware. the google branded phones now have the 1.56 firmware, as they do not make the htc branded phones anymore. there are probably more differences also...
kylez64 said:
And yes, CDMA cannot connect to data while on a call but I thought text could be sent through EVDO. Ive d/l files quite a bit and when I recieve a text it countinues to download with what no interference.
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the question is not if you can send texts and download files at the same time, its if you can receive calls/texts while locked out of the 1x network.
kylez64 said:
I see that as a Sprint issue, or if the phone is defective in some way. If anyone is experiance this issue, try to load a custom rom or if you are on one flash the RUU and if that doesnt help contact Sprint.
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its not really a issue, unless they advertised that you could call be on a call and surf the web (which they do not) or if they advised you to change the setting in question from hybrid to EVDO. (which they do not)

CDMA 3G doesn't currently support receiving text or calls in EVDO.
EVDO is used for data only.
Every time you call or send/recieve a text, it switches to 1X, no matter what.
Hence, why you are able to recieve them when calling voicemail.
GSM phones have this capability, and while technically CDMA can, no CDMA carrier has the ability active(it's a network issue).
Forcing EV is good if you want uninterrupted data, but to recieve any calls or texts you will need to either dial out, or switch to a hybrid/1x mode.
Fact.

just got off the chat with sprint, they said, (after a long pause)
12/29/2009 11:53:58PM ME: "just wondering"
12/29/2009 11:57:09PM Agent (Myquan): "I do apologize but the option to place a call and browse the web at the same time, this is not one of the options provided on the sprint network, I do apologize for this inconvenience."
12/29/2009 11:57:43PM Agent (Myquan): "This option may possibly be available in the near future."
12/29/2009 11:58:13PM ME: "will my hero support this?"
12/29/2009 11:59:32PM Agent (Myquan): "Absolutely! if we receive a software upgrade for htc phones allowing this feature this will be available for your Hero."
12/29/2009 11:59:50PM ME: "sweet"

4G supports it.
Hero isn't a 4G phone.
So unless they decide to expand their 3G to allow it to do this, that's a no.

[Q] Help with tab making and recieving calls

Hi everyone, last week i bought a galaxy tab 7.7 lte after reading it could make calls but didnt realise the stripped out tbiz feature in us models till i got home. I searched the net hoping to find a hack of somekind to re enable this feature to no avail. I have the graNdfathered unlimited plan and wanted to use my own verizon number to make and recieve calls, i guess the next best thing is to use google voice and groove ip? I have no idea how to set it up as my only number i have read about it but it just confuses me so came on here boping to. Get some help. If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.

Mcnavice said:
Hi everyone, last week i bought a galaxy tab 7.7 lte after reading it could make calls but didnt realise the stripped out tbiz feature in us models till i got home. I searched the net hoping to find a hack of somekind to re enable this feature to no avail. I have the graNdfathered unlimited plan and wanted to use my own verizon number to make and recieve calls, i guess the next best thing is to use google voice and groove ip? I have no idea how to set it up as my only number i have read about it but it just confuses me so came on here boping to. Get some help. If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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Here's the problem: US carriers are very greedy. As such, a single device that "does it all" is bad for business. Think about it. If you got a tablet that also doubled as your phone, then that's a tethering fee they can't get you on if you had a wifi-only tablet paired up to your smartphone. OR that's a whole other data subscription, just for your tablet, that they aren't getting your money for either.
US carriers don't like all-in-one devices... That's why you'll never see a US device with all the features of the international version of the same device.
Here's my advice for you: Give Verizon a big fat middle finger by returning the VZW version of the 7.7, buying the international 3G version (P6800) instead, port your existing number over to StraightTalk for $45 a month, unlimited everything, pay as you go, and cancel your VZW contract.
People in the US need to get out of this 2-year agreement dependency BS... That's how carriers are able to gouge us for 3 and 4 times as much as everyone else around the world who are mostly pay-as-you-go. PAYG is much more competitive, and the consumer benefits from it.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Here's the problem: US carriers are very greedy. As such, a single device that "does it all" is bad for business. Think about it. If you got a tablet that also doubled as your phone, then that's a tethering fee they can't get you on if you had a wifi-only tablet paired up to your smartphone. OR that's a whole other data subscription, just for your tablet, that they aren't getting your money for either.
US carriers don't like all-in-one devices... That's why you'll never see a US device with all the features of the international version of the same device.
Here's my advice for you: Give Verizon a big fat middle finger by returning the VZW version of the 7.7, buying the international 3G version (P6800) instead, port your existing number over to StraightTalk for $45 a month, unlimited everything, pay as you go, and cancel your VZW contract.
People in the US need to get out of this 2-year agreement dependency BS... That's how carriers are able to gouge us for 3 and 4 times as much as everyone else around the world who are mostly pay-as-you-go. PAYG is much more competitive, and the consumer benefits from it.
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I whole heartly agree.... when my contract with ATT is up.. Im doing this very thing.. thanks J.E.W...

Mcnavice said:
If i put my sim in the tab can i just forward my verizon calls to my google voice? Does the tab support sms with my verizon number? If i port my number to google voice im guessing it terminates my contract? How do i setup. Google voice the guide i read said something about having another number to fowar to but idont have one i want to use my tab as all in one device with sim in it. Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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As everyone mentioned, your vzw sim is for data only, but for gvoice calls (& voip internet calling) you only need data to work in order to make calls. If you intend to keep your vzw tab, you can try this:
Go to google.com/voice & setup a google voice account & choose a gvoice phone #. You need to do this from a laptop or pc, won't work from tab or phone. You may be required to setup at least one phone for forwarding to complete setup, you can use your cell or home phone, you can always go back later & uncheck forwarding or delete that phone from your gvoice acct.
After setup, at top right of web page, look for pic of gear (settings/options), be sure to select/check off forward to your gmail address.
Be sure your vzw sim is activated & in your tablet.
On your tab go to google play/market & download gvoice app & follow the setup guide. Gvoice will attempt too send a text from your tab which notifies google voice of your tab's phone # configures Gvoice to sync & forward with your new tab. Next download grooveip & follow the setup. You should be golden
I use a prepaid GoPhone sim in my gsm 7.7 tab for calls, text & 3G. If you have good att signal near you & can do without the remote control infrared on the vzw version & can still return your vzw tab, get a p6800. You will not be disappointed
Good Luck

Magickly said:
As everyone mentioned, your vzw sim is for data only, but for gvoice calls (& voip internet calling) you only need data to work in order to make calls. If you intend to keep your vzw tab, you can try this:
Go to google.com/voice & setup a google voice account & choose a gvoice phone #. You need to do this from a laptop or pc, won't work from tab or phone. You may be required to setup at least one phone for forwarding to complete setup, you can use your cell or home phone, you can always go back later & uncheck forwarding or delete that phone from your gvoice acct.
After setup, at top right of web page, look for pic of gear (settings/options), be sure to select/check off forward to your gmail address.
Be sure your vzw sim is activated & in your tablet.
On your tab go to google play/market & download gvoice app & follow the setup guide. Gvoice will attempt too send a text from your tab which notifies google voice of your tab's phone # configures Gvoice to sync & forward with your new tab. Next download grooveip & follow the setup. You should be golden
I use a prepaid GoPhone sim in my gsm 7.7 tab for calls, text & 3G. If you have good att signal near you & can do without the remote control infrared on the vzw version & can still return your vzw tab, get a p6800. You will not be disappointed
Good Luck
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I have the US Verizon version of the 7.7 and it has 4g. Will this setup work with it. I set it up as per your instructions and hope it works but a confirmation from you would be nice.

My company paid for the 7.7 as well as foots the bill for the monthly unlimited 4G data w/ Verizon (I just swap the SIM out between my MiFi and the 7.7 depending on which one i would bring with me). I actually prefer the awesome speed of LTE.
I have got GrooveIP working w/ my Gvoice account to make & receive VOIP calls. (Thanks 2 Asenduk who pointed out the setting that was making it not work on mine).
I just wish the bluetooth would work with the 7.7 as a phone and not just "media" as when I bought one of those bluetooth mini handsets it only lets you talk on it but does not let you answer or end the call from the handset (nor gives you caller id or ringing indicator at all).

aximtreo said:
I have the US Verizon version of the 7.7 and it has 4g. Will this setup work with it. I set it up as per your instructions and hope it works but a confirmation from you would be nice.
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?!
If you already have it setup, why not just test it out ?
I can say that I just set this up on my sister's VZW 7.7 GTab & it works flawlessly using free version of GrooveIP Lite. She already had a gvoice # setup w/forwarding to her cell, I just added GVoice app to her tab & configured to her GVoice, and of course, installed GrooveIP Lite app & Bam !
You may need to enable (check box) to "send calls to GoogleChat" option in google voice for incoming, on some devices this was necessary for me
I'm off to pay for full version of GrooveIP, cuz they deserve it

Possible phone use on Verizon 7.7

Let me note: I am not a dev nor programmer.
With the similiarities of the P6800 and the Verizon 7.7, I threw together a rom w/ stock SCH-I815 samsung/verizon kernel using the P6800 frameworks and apps into the Verizon 7.7 and removed most bloat. The LTE/Verizon antennas aren't recognized by the device at all but everything else was working.
Now, you can't swap the phone.apk's around without the framework's else you'll experience FCs. So obviously I'll need to use the base stock apps and frameworks and go through the 2 framework files hunting about.
Has anyone else with the Verizon 7.7 taken a look into this?

I'm curious if you've made any progress on this?

Not yet, probably be a week before I even look through the files again. But I believe it's fully possible to get phone use
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2

i think you will need to find samsung modem for verzon networks, does verizon have a galaxy note or sgs2?
although your modem firmware probably has voice disabled, may have to find modem manufacturer and try to flash custom firmware.
good luck, wish you the best.

I'm happy enough using GrooveIP for google voice calling. What I'd really like is if we could activate the phone profile in bluetooth (or will that just come with enabling the proper phone part in the 7.7?).
As of now i can use GrooveIP and bluetooth to listen and speak, but it won't let the bluetooth device answer/hang up/transfer address book/show caller ID (on the Verizon LTE 7.7)

Doesn't verizon require some sort of signed telephony to work properly on their network

ph00ny said:
Doesn't verizon require some sort of signed telephony to work properly on their network
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I got no idea but with the other packs it didn't detect the radio at all. This is keeping the vzw radio partition stock. I like the ideas and really wish the note was verizon as that'd help figure things out.
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just to confirm does this a sim slot? i thought someone said it did.

chrisrotolo said:
just to confirm does this a sim slot? i thought someone said it did.
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It does for LTE but cdma service doesn't use sim
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Seeing as your data account won't have any provisioning for voice usage, even if you DID get a working modem and a modified framework to allow for phone functionality on the device, I doubt that you'd actually be able to made or receive a phone call due to Verizon's limitations at the account and provisioning level anyway.
Point is, it's a CDMA device, and thus your service is attached to the device itself, not the SIM card (except for LTE data). Basically, you can't just provision service to the SIM card alone, and then simply swap it into a different device. So if you got the modem and the framework working, and you called in to Verizon customer service and asked to provision your line for voice, they'll just be like "Umm, no... We never INTENDED for you to use that device as a phone, so no... You want a phone? Buy a phone. You want a tablet? Buy a tablet. You want to do both in one device? We won't allow that because that loses us money that we would be getting by having you either subscribe to two lines, or charge you extra to tether..."
There is a much simpler solution however.
Ditch ANY CDMA carrier in favour of a GSM carrier instead, preferably one that uses the same compatible frequencies adopted by the rest of the world, like AT&T (and MVNO's based off of AT&T's network), and buy the P6800.
The moral of this story is this: if you want the latest devices, with the best features, you're NOT going to find them in the north American market, EVER, at all, period; you're just going to find watered-down, gimped, bloated, and locked-down versions of the international models. You HAVE to import. If you're going to import, you HAVE to use a GSM service provider... That's just the way it is. It sucks, I know, but it is what it is.

I would have to agree, the GSM version would be best. It would be near impossible to make this happen. Of course if I was stick with one, I would try everything I could as well. I'd probably fail miserably and go for something like GrooveIP.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Seeing as your data account won't have any provisioning for voice usage, even if you DID get a working modem and a modified framework to allow for phone functionality on the device, I doubt that you'd actually be able to made or receive a phone call due to Verizon's limitations at the account and provisioning level anyway.
Point is, it's a CDMA device, and thus your service is attached to the device itself, not the SIM card (except for LTE data). Basically, you can't just provision service to the SIM card alone, and then simply swap it into a different device. So if you got the modem and the framework working, and you called in to Verizon customer service and asked to provision your line for voice, they'll just be like "Umm, no... We never INTENDED for you to use that device as a phone, so no... You want a phone? Buy a phone. You want a tablet? Buy a tablet. You want to do both in one device? We won't allow that because that loses us money that we would be getting by having you either subscribe to two lines, or charge you extra to tether..."
There is a much simpler solution however.
Ditch ANY CDMA carrier in favour of a GSM carrier instead, preferably one that uses the same compatible frequencies adopted by the rest of the world, like AT&T (and MVNO's based off of AT&T's network), and buy the P6800.
The moral of this story is this: if you want the latest devices, with the best features, you're NOT going to find them in the north American market, EVER, at all, period; you're just going to find watered-down, gimped, bloated, and locked-down versions of the international models. You HAVE to import. If you're going to import, you HAVE to use a GSM service provider... That's just the way it is. It sucks, I know, but it is what it is.
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I move my SIM between devices all the time and have never needed to call VZ to provision the new device. Voice and data just work.

miiike said:
I move my SIM between devices all the time and have never needed to call VZ to provision the new device. Voice and data just work.
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I can CONFIRM the following:
I have a VZ tab 7.7 with 5GB data plan and I have a VZ Razr with voice/unlimited data plan.
Both are LTE devices and hence use (micro) SIM cards. In "My Verizon" even the tab has a phone number assigned to it's "line". A call to that number just rings but obviously nothing on the tab.
BUT...
Put the tab sim in the phone and YES it will ring if you call that number! Even TXT in/out works! I assume they will just charge me per txt and per min phone use BUT IT WORKS in a PHONE.
And the kicker is, the unlimited PHONE SIM also works in the TAB! I immediately get LTE data and can surf with the tab. Of course at that point calls and texts to that phone number are "ignored" by the tab's neutered modem.
Lesson learned:
IF there was a way to flash a modem, say for example from the Samsung Galaxy Nexus to the VZ 7.7 TAB, we would have a full supersized phone in our hand. Only downside, no earpiece. So only speakerphone or BT calls I guess.
Anyway, after a little more research I also found this very interesting article:
http://www.phonenews.com/verizon-affirms-unlimited-smartphone-sim-card-usage-in-hotspots-tablets-lte-ipad-20053/
Hope this helps bring a little light into the messy CDMA/LTE darkness

I have swapped my Galaxy Nexus SIM in my VZW LTE 7.7 numerous times. It works. I'd love to have voice on the VZW LTE 7.7, then I could possibly do it all on my tab. I'm no developer tho ;p

Questions on using Samsung unlocked S8 on Verizon

I have read a bunch of threads all over and done some searches but cannot seem to find any clear definitive answers on a few things. I am looking at grabbing the Samsung unlocked S8 and want to know for sure if anyone can confirm what does and does not work on VZ with that model? I am pretty sure of the following, but anyone who has one on VZ and can help me out would be greatly appreciated.
- WiFi Calling does NOT work on VZ with the unlocked version. I am pretty sure based on what I read on this.
- VoLTE and HD calling DO work on VZ. Again, pretty sure from what I read but it is hard to find definitive answers anywhere.
- Any app based WiFi calling would still work (so using stuff like Signal or any app that uses data to make calls could make WiFi calls even if the VZ network WiFi calling does not work?)
- Video calling DOES/DOES not work? Cannot find any answer to this.
- Voicemail still gives you notifications/works like normal? I think I read someone say that Visual Voicemail does not work, so the app that lets you just tap and see and instantly listen to VM would not work and you would have to dial *86? Not sure here and clarification is appreciated.
- Any other significant issues or things that don't work or are affected that I have missed?
I think it is pretty bad that phones can evolve with tech and you can get a phone several years and models newer than an older phone, but because one is carrier locked version, it has a ton of features that the newer phone can do, but won't because of carrier BS. Again, all help is appreciated. Thanks!

Visual voicemail does not work. HD calling works. I dont do wifi calling. I dont do video calling. I have unlimited data and mobile hotspot works flawless.

antonius66 said:
I have read a bunch of threads all over and done some searches but cannot seem to find any clear definitive answers on a few things. I am looking at grabbing the Samsung unlocked S8 and want to know for sure if anyone can confirm what does and does not work on VZ with that model? I am pretty sure of the following, but anyone who has one on VZ and can help me out would be greatly appreciated.
- WiFi Calling does NOT work on VZ with the unlocked version. I am pretty sure based on what I read on this.
- VoLTE and HD calling DO work on VZ. Again, pretty sure from what I read but it is hard to find definitive answers anywhere.
- Any app based WiFi calling would still work (so using stuff like Signal or any app that uses data to make calls could make WiFi calls even if the VZ network WiFi calling does not work?)
- Video calling DOES/DOES not work? Cannot find any answer to this.
- Voicemail still gives you notifications/works like normal? I think I read someone say that Visual Voicemail does not work, so the app that lets you just tap and see and instantly listen to VM would not work and you would have to dial *86? Not sure here and clarification is appreciated.
- Any other significant issues or things that don't work or are affected that I have missed?
I think it is pretty bad that phones can evolve with tech and you can get a phone several years and models newer than an older phone, but because one is carrier locked version, it has a ton of features that the newer phone can do, but won't because of carrier BS. Again, all help is appreciated. Thanks!
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Did you decide to purchase the unlocked S8 for use on Verizon? Has it been a good experience? I'm thinking of buying one since I have the grandfathered unlimited data plan and I'd like to be able to use the mobile hotspot without having to root. Although I don't travel too much, having the option to use my phone in another country by popping in a local SIM is definitely an attractive feature. Thanks in advance!

US997 on AT&T, any way to enable wifi calling

I have the US997 G6 with the bootloader unlocked and twrp and magisk installed. I was wonder if there was a way to enable wifi calling while on the AT&T network, from what I've read so far only branded AT&T G6's have wifi calling enabled. I am just wondering if it is possible to change any setting now that I have rooted the phone to get it to work.
To be more specific on why I want this feature enabled, I work in the Gulf of Mexico on an oil and gas production facility, and there is no cell signal out here at all, but we have decent internet access. I don't really want to make calls as much as I want to be able receive my text messages and after googling some info I've found suggests that wifi calling needs to be enabled for sms and mms messages to go through. One of the biggest annoyances is when I return to land and get signal so many messages that have piled up for the last 15 days hit the phone at once and there have been occasion where I had to reboot the phone due to it partially locking up.
Any info is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

Bump! I would like some info on this as I am in a similar situation. I don't have to go days on end like you do without cell signal, but it would still be nice to have this feature on my US997 variant of the G6.

The update to Google Voice is supposed to allow this directly from the Google Voice app.

ive tried google voice app and im not getting any of my text messages, i can get all my voice, unless there is something more that i need to set up, il look on google and report back with what i find

Bump. I am trying to get ATT visual voice mail to work on my US997 and I want access to the LG native email app.
Thanks in advance,
Glenn

Would be amazing if there was a way. I wonder if it's just a buildprop change or something easy like that. Way back in the old days when verizon charged for tethering all you needed to do was root and change a value in a database from 0 to 1 to unlock the ability to turn on tethering.

I still haven't found anything on how to enable this, google voice didnt work for me. Googleing the issue again brought me to my own post on here.