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I'm been working on this for a little bit now since I found all the existing apps don't work well in WM6 or don't work well in a custom rom. This is a open source program (as all of mine are) and I welcome help/donations/and comments. Bug reports will be helpful in this first release as I certainly consider this a alpha release at the moment.
What it does:
once setup at every boot it compares your IMSI number with the one stored, if it's a match it plays a little sound and that's it. If it's not a match, it locks the device and displays your email and a request to please get it back to you. It also send you the "new sim's" imsi and phone number via a SMS.
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SecurIt 1.1 (BETA) by Shadowmite
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TODO: Build in SMS rule filtering thus adding remote control
Lock out activesync connections?
Protect the datafile from being deleted, or keep a backup in registry.
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH CDMA PHONES!
Version 1 (BETA) Instructions:
This security applicatioon can run loaded normally via a cab file to your device, or via being cooked into a rom. It will require your phone able to run unsigned code (most roms at this site are fine in this regard). Furthermore it does require the .NET Framework so it's really for WM6 devices, WM5 will be more tricky and is left up to the user to figure out how to make it all work.
When first run the program resides in \windows and must run from there. If you ran the cab installer it will have created a shortcut for you into the Programs folder.
The application comes up with a form showing you the current device imei, imsi, and phone number. You need to enter a password (needed to disable security programmatically or change SIM info), a email you can be reached at my a "finder" of your phone, and a SMS phone number you'd like alert messages sent to. Once done click set. Finally, click Enable security.
The application then sets itself up to autorun upon boot and if the SIM matches, it plays a little sound file to let you know everything is fine. If the sim is found to have changed, it will lock down the device until a password is entered. Meanwhile it shows your contact email and has sent the alert sms to you with the new imsi and phone number.
If you enter the proper password the program will take you to the settings screen where you can reenter the password and make changes to the settings and resave them. Simply clicking enable security without making changes will keep the settings as they are.
Clicking disable security will remove the autorun entries and remove the data file the programs keeps at \windows\SecurIt.dat.
The data file keeps 5 lines, MD5 hashes of your imei, imsi, password, and also your email and sms phone number as plain text. Thus stealing this file does not enable retrieving the password or easy changing of the imsi. Deleting this file however would remove security. Furthermore activesync will still link to a locked device. Knowledgable people about these devices could therefore defeat this security, however it's goal is to keep the casual theif / finder out of the phone.
This program is a work in progress and I welcome help with modifications to it as well as bug fixes. Source can be found at:
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite/SecurIt
To cook this into a rom, you need 3 files. 2 of them need to be generated when you first install it like normal and set it up. Copy the SecurIt.dat from \windows and the SecurIt.lnk from \windows\start up to your rom as well as the SecurIt.exe file. It's that simple. Enjoy!
History:
1.1: Fixed all kinds of bugs causing security to crash with various sims
1.0: Initial release
If you like my work and would like to help insure I continue to have time for this, please consider a donation to: foglemATshadowmiteDOTcom
Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.
nice work as usual...
shantzg001 said:
Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.
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number 2 is in the TODO list...
#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.
#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.
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ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..
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ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..
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What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
famewolf said:
What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
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If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?
Shadowmite said:
If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.
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you dont bother with a review but bother with a slagging ... take your "fame" somewhere else...
Ok, for starters mine isn't based on assuming every device has a GPS built in (while technically being a Trinity owner I should go that route). I instead base mine on nicely locking down the interface so far with a polite message to get the device back to the owner. Furthermore mine is trivial to build into a cooked rom which was my main reason to write it. I tried every security app out there over the last weekend without any of them working "properly" and figured the best way to get one is to write one. In addition mine is open source, mobilejustice is not.
Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
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I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON.
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Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
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1) The rom I currently have installed comes with Mobile Justice preinstalled.
2) I have not configured and am not currently using Mobile Justice
3) The author is currently taking suggestions for software to include in the next revision of their rom.
What part of any of those statements are you having difficulty comprehending?
Perhaps you and the gentleman from Melbourne should both grow up and quit reading an insult where one was not intended.
Well than back on track... Give it a try and see what you think. I really want feedback from folks outside the USA as I believe it will not properly catch your phone number of the "thief's sim" however if the sms works it should still get the phone number to you obviously.
The GPS coord. request feature is a nice one and will have to go on the todo list.
well, well, fights apart, what drew me to this app over the other apps was the opensource nature as mentioned by Shadowmite because I, like shadowmite, was not happy with the other apps doing things properly or just because I wanted somethings to be done differently..
@shadowmite:
1. I have a few ideas of getting "coordinates" and sending to the original owner even on non-GPS devices ..Maybe we can discuss some things later on once the basic structure of the app is ok.
2. Couldn't find the source code of the app on ur site..(May be am just one dim-witted dim-sighted git ) Please point me to it..
You'll need svn to get it, windows users: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.n...vn/TortoiseSVN-1.4.4.9706-win32-svn-1.4.4.msi
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite is my master repository for all projects.
cool, I do have TortoiseSVN installed at home..Will check it when I go back..
Will it sustain a hard re-set ? Dont think so.
@shailesh, for sustaining hard resets, it has to be cooked into the rom, pointed out by shadow on post 1..
I don't know if something else can be done for this (writing into ext rom is one option but that is not possible for most devices now)
Sounds like a great piece of software. And open source is a great idea too.
I did tried several others like this one (Eye on the thef, Ultimately Theft Alert ...) some features were still missing :
First an autoconfig method :
As already said, whatever your storage methode is (file or registry), you 'll everytime lose the configuration when a hard-reset is done on the device. The only one possibility i can imagine is to store your "installer" program on extended rom with the ability to add an external config (encrypted) file as a parameter.
Installation will be handled by the autoconfig process, using this external file. Config will probably needs to be stored on extended rom too. It's not peace of cake to create an extended rom, but easier that cook a rom.
This feature won't be very helpfull if there is no way to generate a config file automaticaly base on settings done by user : kind of export process.
On standart start/soft-reset, your program will run as it does actually, but when a hard-reset, is proceed, programm will reinstall unattented and will still be running after boot... No way to easily remove it. Bad effect is that it will also be difficult to update programm/config.
Secondly, i'd like to have the a way to "format"(or encrypt) a memory card remotely.
Do you thinks those could be part of your TODO list ?
Will try it on few next days and i'm ready to help you translating it in french
hi shantzg001,
thanks for replying,
My mistake, did not read the whole text.
Hey all,
I have been in contact with the author of the Dynamo task switcher program for a little while now, and he has decided to give up work on a new version of the program because he does not have enough time to devote to it anymore (if you haven't heard of it, look here: http://www.aspecto-software.com/punbb/viewforum.php?id=2). As such, he's released the source code, which I am posting here. I'm hoping some industrious programmers here with some time on their hands could have a look at it, and finish where he left off. Here is what he's written about it.
"Although I truly think Dynamo is a great application and deserves to be maintained, I have been unable to find enough time to finish off and release a new version.
The source you'll find here is an almost completed new version of Dynamo that I had hoped would work on phones. As you may be aware, Dynamo 2 will not work on Windows smartphones and the aim of this version was to create a single version that worked on both standard PDAs and phones.
When built, the current code will execute on a phone and try to hook up one of the hard-keys as a key to launch Dynamo. When clicked, this key will then activate Dynamo and show the programs in the dynamo interface as expected (if this fails for any reason simply manually launch Dynamo again to activate it). The apps can then be selected as per Dynamo's normal behaviour. The program is indeed near completion. In my opinion all that needs to be done to get it completed (for the phone at least) is to correctly identify the applications that are phone operating system ones and not worth displaying (you'll notice that currently Dynamo displays a few applications that are OS caretaking apps, and can't really be selected), and to generally tidy up the interface to make it look nice for release.
Please note that all the code is released under the GNU software license, as follows...
Copyright (C) 2008 Marek Bell & Malcolm Hall
Email: [email protected]
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA."
Edit: See this thread if you don't know what Dynamo is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367399
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I just wanted to say that you're an illiterate [email protected]
that's all i wanted to say.
nir36 said:
I just wanted to say that you're an illiterate [email protected]
that's all i wanted to say.
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I feel so appreciated
This is great news! I just tried 3d alt tab yesterday, but it lacks the random access that Dynamo gives. Also with the Xperia coming out soon I expect this kind of animated task switcher will become very popular (for phones that are not the xperia of course).
Surur
surur said:
This is great news! I just tried 3d alt tab yesterday, but it lacks the random access that Dynamo gives. Also with the Xperia coming out soon I expect this kind of animated task switcher will become very popular (for phones that are not the xperia of course).
Surur
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Yeah, I think the random access on this program if far superior to the 3D alt-tab program that is being developed here. I've been using Dynamo 2 for months now, and it's really fantastic, just needs landscape support, exclusion ability, and a couple other tweaks and it'd be perfect. According to the author the new version posted here only requires a little more work to complete, so hopefully someone will look into it.
Pretty please?
bump.
Surur
Come on people, this is probably the greatest task-switcher program ever written for Windows Mobile and there's not a single developer on here that wants to put the finishing touches on an almost completely written code?!
I second to that!!!
+1
People - come on, join with this, the more requests we get, the more the probability rises that someone will notice this and act.
Strongly agree
surur said:
This is great news! I just tried 3d alt tab yesterday, but it lacks the random access that Dynamo gives. Also with the Xperia coming out soon I expect this kind of animated task switcher will become very popular (for phones that are not the xperia of course).
Surur
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what is the random access?
roozbeh said:
what is the random access?
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It means being able to instantly access any of running programs (so you can see list/thumbnails of _all_ running programs and just click the one you need), as opposed to sequential access (only next and previous program) used in 3d alt-tab.
Anyone able to post some pics?
dantegl36 said:
Anyone able to post some pics?
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See this thread for an animated gif of it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367399
I really hope someone picks this up i have been looking for this exact app for my phone for a verry long time
nice find!
htctoucher said:
I really hope someone picks this up i have been looking for this exact app for my phone for a verry long time
nice find!
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I think a lot of people have. It's been around for years, it's just that no one has ever heard of it.
this is app is great,
calling all programmers who can help
finish this cool stuff,
i fully agree!!!!!!! we need a new build that works on all the devices, cmon developers
Freaking bump
I searched and got nothing in the forum about homebrew, so i figured i'd ask about it. Is it possible for us with this phone to do any of the homebrew stuff out there? I have been without my laptop so cannot really try anything yet, but I see articles about little apps and aesthetic changes people are doing to their Samsung and HTC wp7 phones and i want in on it too.
I loved that homebrew community when i had my Palm Pre back in the day and had it hacked to my liking. I really hope we can do this with our phones too. I have looked into it a little but, but i don't think the guys who have done the unlocking and developing for wp7 have used, tried or have access to our phone. I really hope I'm wrong and just haven't had any luck searching for answers, but so far i haven't really found anything specifically stating whether anything works on the DVP yet.
If they have, could someone point me in the right direction and i'll continue learning on my own? If not, then i hope we can some day.
Thanks for any help y'all can provide.
I'm looking to attack this problem from the other end. I'm the developer of one of those "little apps" you mentioned; specifically the one that lets you change the Search function in IE (when you hit the Search button or mis-type a URL).
I'm working with a homebrew library that more-or-less handles HTC, Samsung, and LG, but completely doesn't support Dell. I'd like to get it working with Dell so that
A) You all can use my app
B) More homebrew apps can be written for the DVP
Some questions that I have (answers to any are appreciated):
How can I programmatically identify a Dell phone? (On an HTC, you can check for HKLM\Software\HTC in the registry.)
Does anybody have ProvisionXML working on the Venue Pro yet? (This is a really handy way to make changes to the OS.)
Does anybody have a way to get access to the file system, even read-only, on the Venue Pro?
Thanks a bunch. In the meantime (and possibly helpful to this cause) there's a homebrew project called "Functional Webserver" in the WP7 Hacking forum. It should work on Dell phones (I think) and means you should have at least Socket (networking) APIs. It also gives (read-only) access to the \Windows directory, which may be very useful for getting other stuff...
GoodDayToDie said:
I'm looking to attack this problem from the other end. I'm the developer of one of those "little apps" you mentioned; specifically the one that lets you change the Search function in IE (when you hit the Search button or mis-type a URL).
I'm working with a homebrew library that more-or-less handles HTC, Samsung, and LG, but completely doesn't support Dell. I'd like to get it working with Dell so that
A) You all can use my app
B) More homebrew apps can be written for the DVP
Some questions that I have (answers to any are appreciated):
How can I programmatically identify a Dell phone? (On an HTC, you can check for HKLM\Software\HTC in the registry.)
Does anybody have ProvisionXML working on the Venue Pro yet? (This is a really handy way to make changes to the OS.)
Does anybody have a way to get access to the file system, even read-only, on the Venue Pro?
Thanks a bunch. In the meantime (and possibly helpful to this cause) there's a homebrew project called "Functional Webserver" in the WP7 Hacking forum. It should work on Dell phones (I think) and means you should have at least Socket (networking) APIs. It also gives (read-only) access to the \Windows directory, which may be very useful for getting other stuff...
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I would like to submit my services to help you get that information... However, I'm not really sure how to get that to you. If you'd be happy to lay out directions so I can get you that information, I'll happily do it on my Dell Venue Pro.
Thanks for the help!
@nabiscuit Thanks for the offer. The first step is making sure your phone is developer-unlocked, so you can side-load (install directly, not from Marketplace) XAP application packages. All homebrew apps are distributed in this way. The official way to do this is to have a Microsoft developer account (http://create.msdn.com/) although for the next few weeks ChevronWP7 should also work.
For the first question, try installing a Registry Viewer or Registry Editor app - there are a number of them available, both on this site and on TouchXperience (I like the TouchXperience one a lot). Go poke around for anything that looks like a distinctive registry key or value. The most likely place is under HKLM. You could also just do a registry search (the better apps have at least some capability for such searches) for "Dell" as *anything* with that string is probably distinctive.
For the second, it will take access to native code. Using the "Functional Webserver" app you can download some file from the phone's /Windows directory. Checking them for useful COM exports would be helpful, although I'm not the person to ask about doing that - I can do NT drivers and I can do managed code, but COM is not my thing. Try asking for help with this in the general Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=606).
For the third question, I could actually whip up a small app that *might* work already. You could also try Advanced Explorer (XDA) or TouchXplorer (TouchXperience) although I don't think either is guaranteed to work outside of HTC phones. If you're willing to try running an app that will check for read and write in a number of harmless parts of the file system, I can code one up for you to run and report results back.
Thanks again!
I'd love to get some homebrew development going, is there anything I can do to help?
Try getting in touch with notebookgrail (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3174632) as he seems to be pulling apart the DVP native libraries and finding lots of cool stuff to do with their COM interfaces. I don't know if he has registry write yet - one of the core functions that a lot of homebrew apps want - but if so I can work on getting it integrated into a nice cross-device library for writing apps which (should... grrr Samsung) work on any phone.
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Try getting in touch with jessej (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3220709) as he seems to be pulling apart the DVP native libraries and finding lots of cool stuff to do with their COM interfaces. I don't know if he has registry write yet - one of the core functions that a lot of homebrew apps want - but if so I can work on getting it integrated into a nice cross-device library for writing apps which (should... grrr Samsung) work on any phone.
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Did u mean to point it to me as i was the one who did pull apart the native libs.?
If not, sorry for the intrusion.
Yes, send your request to notebookgrail. I am not on his level for development purposes. But I do appreciate the comment.
Whoops, sorry about that notebookgrail! I must have looked at a response instead of the OP by accident. I've fixed my post above. Thanks a bunch for the work you've done. Any word on registry writing?
any progress?
I love webOS but we have very little choice about applications, and OS really deserves to reach a very good support for apps and patch than what we have now(many thanks to webos-internals), for now if we look the other platforms are missing most of the more useful applications...so i open this thread for ask to webOS users and help developers to have a first idea about what people need it most at this time.
Is not necessary to specify the name of the existing app from the other OS is also enough to have just the idea of the application or patch that you miss.
I start with:
Something like Shazam and Whatsapp and another choice than the original browser...
Thanks
VOIP
Any VOIP and preferably Skype or Fring or any way to use Google Voice as a calling or receiving number...
2 patchs:
1. arabic enabling for webos 1.4.5
2. app catalog enabling for unsupported carriers
many apps:
1.shazam
2. fring
3. call recorder
4. word, excel sheet editor
5........ many others
Currently I would just like a patch to be able to bookmark things in Diigo or look up my Diigo bookmarks and read later items.
ahmadshawki said:
Any VOIP and preferably Skype or Fring or any way to use Google Voice as a calling or receiving number...
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Linphone is in early alpha testing:
http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Linphone
Make yourself known in the #webos-internals IRC channel on Freenode if you wish to participate.
Source code is in the WebOS Internals git repository:
http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/linphone.git;a=summary
-- Rod
leopard106 said:
2 patchs:
2. app catalog enabling for unsupported carriers
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You can use the WebOS Internals MetaDoctor to bypass activation and create a palm profile over wifi to access the app catalog. If you do not do this on an official carrier in an official launch country, then you will end up with no access to purchase paid apps, and (depending on your country) may not end up with access to any apps at all.
You can always, of course, use Preware to install homebrew apps, patches, themes and kernels.
-- Rod
Hi,
I would like to see:
1. shazaam
2. springpad
3. pulse
Thx
Would love to see an app like DroidWall for WebOS to control access to data and/or wifi for specific apps.
Sent from my GSBv1.6-ERIS using XDA App
love to see most of the apps on web os before launching of touchpad and pre 3
I crave an Agenda app
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You can use the WebOS Internals MetaDoctor to bypass activation and create a palm profile over wifi to access the app catalog. If you do not do this on an official carrier in an official launch country, then you will end up with no access to purchase paid apps, and (depending on your country) may not end up with access to any apps at all.
You can always, of course, use Preware to install homebrew apps, patches, themes and kernels.
-- Rod
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can you link me to correct thread where bypass is tutorial,my pre is o2 germany with 2.1 webos meta-doctor?
sorry for lazy question
I still say Dark Nova should be ported to WebOS. It's already a remake of THE BEST PalmOS games ever, SpaceTrader. Its open source and written for both Android and iPhone/iPad/iPod. If anyone is interested in doing this, I would LOVE to beta test it! Just Let me know!
-NightHammer
How about a different web browser with more capabilities, such as flash. And no, I'm not talking about flash lite or some derivative of it....but the real deal. Android has 10.1....., why can't someone port it to work with Web OS? They're both programmed in Linux. Don't know why this has'nt been done by now. Web OS is such an innovative and powerful system......it really deserves more attention than it's been getting.
On a side note, anyone in the mood for some custom roms? Are their any Web Os chiefs out there? Or does anyone know of any roms for the palm pre?
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On a side note, anyone in the mood for some custom roms? Are their any Web Os chiefs out there? Or does anyone know of any roms for the palm pre?
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No such thing as 'ROMz' in webOS land. Your device contains flash memory, not Read-Only Memory (ROM) and you simply install and uninstall packages.
You are the chef. Preware is your menu. You pick and choose what kernel, patches, theme and packages you want, and all of them are installable over the air without needing to reflash your device or lose any data.
WebOS Internals provides the restaurant.
-- Rod Whitby
-- WebOS Internals Founder and Project Lead
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No such thing as 'ROMz' in webOS land. Your device contains flash memory, not Read-Only Memory (ROM) and you simply install and uninstall packages.
You are the chef. Preware is your menu. You pick and choose what kernel, patches, theme and packages you want, and all of them are installable over the air without needing to reflash your device or lose any data.
WebOS Internals provides the restaurant.
-- Rod Whitby
-- WebOS Internals Founder and Project Lead
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That actually cleared up an old question for me haha. I always wondered why nobody ever made custom "roms" like they did on Windows Mobile and Android.
Do you, by any chance, know if this is the same deal for iOS?
Thanks again for the info.
rwhitby said:
No such thing as 'ROMz' in webOS land. Your device contains flash memory, not Read-Only Memory (ROM) and you simply install and uninstall packages.
You are the chef. Preware is your menu. You pick and choose what kernel, patches, theme and packages you want, and all of them are installable over the air without needing to reflash your device or lose any data.
WebOS Internals provides the restaurant.
-- Rod Whitby
-- WebOS Internals Founder and Project Lead
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Thanks for the insight. That cleared up alot of my questions. How about the deal with flash? Anyone know of a program or custom kernel that enables it? I know Web OS 2.0 is supposed to have some rendition of it. Is it the real thing like Android has? If so, would we be able to make it work on an older version of Web OS? Anyone got any ideas? And thanks for your response Mr. Whitby
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Thanks for the insight. That cleared up alot of my questions. How about the deal with flash? Anyone know of a program or custom kernel that enables it? I know Web OS 2.0 is supposed to have some rendition of it. Is it the real thing like Android has? If so, would we be able to make it work on an older version of Web OS? Anyone got any ideas? And thanks for your response Mr. Whitby
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There are all kinds of tutorials on the WebOS Internals Wiki. Those guys are awesome. They have walkthroughs forWebOS 2.1 on legacy Pres and everything. Including enabling Flash. I have used the tutorial and its thorough and intuitive. Check out their site! hxxp://w w w .webos-internals. o r g
Good Luck!
-NightHammer
nighthammer said:
There are all kinds of tutorials on the WebOS Internals Wiki. Those guys are awesome. They have walkthroughs forWebOS 2.1 on legacy Pres and everything. Including enabling Flash. I have used the tutorial and its thorough and intuitive. Check out their site! hxxp://w w w .webos-internals. o r g
Good Luck!
-NightHammer
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Cool man! Thanks for the advice I've been preoccupied with my Sprint Epic 4g. Time for a change of pace. I never really abandoned my Pre, just lost interest a few monthes back. Seems like there is far more information and programs available for WM & Android.....it's a damn shame I tell ya, the Pre is such a powerful little device. Thanks again for the info, I'll check it out tonight
Does anyone know of a video player that supports formats other than .mp4? Is it possible to create a video player that plays .wmv, .avi, divx or .mpg files? Maybe that's asking too much of this device. Any thoughts on this?
Developer News: Beta Mango Tools Available Today
Whether you’re a new or existing Windows Phone developer, now is the perfect time to take the next step and be what’s next in mobile. The checklist is simple:
Register on App Hub at http://create.msdn.com
Start a Windows Phone project and get ready for Mango with the new Beta Windows Phone Developer Tools 7.1
First the tools. Developers can use this beta release to get ready for the upcoming Windows Phone OS release. The new application platform capabilities coming in Mango deliver the top features you have asked for:
- Background processing
- New profiler and emulator for testing
- Use of Silverlight + XNA together
- Silverlight 4
- IE9 web browser control
- Live Tile enhancements: use of back of tiles and ability to update Live Tiles locally
- Deep linking into apps from notifications and Live Tiles
- Additional sensors; direct camera access, compass & gyro
- Fast application switching
- Networking / sockets for communications
- Local SQL database for structured storage
- Access to calendar and contacts for apps
Can we, developers, use a pre-release on our phones?
personally .. idc if i have to get it in a private message and it isnt posted online for the world ..
I am tired of not having an unlocked NODO focus ..
just because once you apprently install NODO and dont actually backup your backup file you get bonned and cant reset it back to 7004 or 8 ..
If Instagram were to create a WP7 app, now that they have direct access to the camera, would it work on current phones? Or would these apps only run on phones that have mango installed?
What I'm basically curious about is whether we have to wait until Mango before we see apps taking advantage of the new SDK, APIs etc.
Shadowise said:
If Instagram were to create a WP7 app, now that they have direct access to the camera, would it work on current phones? Or would these apps only run on phones that have mango installed?
What I'm basically curious about is whether we have to wait until Mango before we see apps taking advantage of the new SDK, APIs etc.
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You have to wait to mango.. New apis just work on Mango
Its been said there is a MANGO BETA version to download for free... out there. But where exactly is the download file so i can download it on my htc hd7 ? If however i new how to install it though.
Someone said you need to private someone for the file and another said you msut register for it. How could so when the actual thing is free to download it aniways ? WP7 dont force anyone to register or pvt someone for the mango beta version file aniways.
Mamon
regards
sandra
p.s heres the download file for MANGO BETA for free you only get some things available. Not everything within the 500 features just yet. But here are just some what to expect. But works. Only for WP7 phones.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...64-ab15-40e1-bc38-713a95a56a05&displaylang=en
Who ever says to you to pvt me for the file or to register here before you download it... Is quite suspisous because like i said wp7 will never make you prvt someone for the download file and secondly you do not register just to download the file. Just so long you own a Windows phone 7 and download it for your phone.
Bingo
Shadowise said:
What I'm basically curious about is whether we have to wait until Mango before we see apps taking advantage of the new SDK, APIs etc.
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How do you mean we see apps taking advantage of the new SDK? what does that stands for ?
you do realise the marketplace theres allways a new app every time or at least every few days time. Are you actually talking about the whole android apps for wp7 ?
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How do you mean we see apps taking advantage of the new SDK? what does that stands for ?
you do realise the marketplace theres allways a new app every time or at least every few days time. Are you actually talking about the whole android apps for wp7 ?
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not just the android, all the iphone apps too. that's great!!
the SDK is the tool that converts the applications for free from droid/IOS to the WP7 platform, just installed Mango on my HD7 with the link you provided, it was a bit complicated I had to reset the DNS and insert a new character after the carriage return, but it works great, thanks a lot!!! I converted all of my wife's iphone apps in 10 minutes
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Its been said there is a MANGO BETA version to download for free... out there. But where exactly is the download file so i can download it on my htc hd7 ? If however i new how to install it though.
Someone said you need to private someone for the file and another said you msut register for it. How could so when the actual thing is free to download it aniways ? WP7 dont force anyone to register or pvt someone for the mango beta version file aniways.
Mamon
regards
sandra
p.s heres the download file for MANGO BETA for free you only get some things available. Not everything within the 500 features just yet. But here are just some what to expect. But works. Only for WP7 phones.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...64-ab15-40e1-bc38-713a95a56a05&displaylang=en
Who ever says to you to pvt me for the file or to register here before you download it... Is quite suspisous because like i said wp7 will never make you prvt someone for the download file and secondly you do not register just to download the file. Just so long you own a Windows phone 7 and download it for your phone.
Bingo
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Pretty sure that's just the developer tools... No actual ROM for installing on an actual device.... Maybe that's what people are trying to keep private as don't think MS want it out there just yet!
I can't wait for this release as I just got my hd7.
The
link is nit working can someone repost it or send it to me please.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...64-ab15-40e1-bc38-713a95a56a05&displaylang=en
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The
link is nit working can someone repost it or send it to me please.
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Here's link to download ISO image:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...6-4272-93D8-C4D98F0567AE/WPDT_v2_Beta_en1.iso
Then you can install it offline.
After I download it how do I install it on the phone.
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After I download it how do I install it on the phone.
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No, you can't flash it to your phone.
It's just a WP7 emulator that installed on your PC.
Ok got it
Many thanks...what does it do then just show what's coming in mango?
can somebody add wifi hotspot on the develpoment?
A really newbie question im would like to start developing some aplications for mango i know a litle of visual basic, so i would like to ask what is the programing languge is used to develop apps for mango? Thank you very much
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