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Just wondering if the Epic can be used on MetroPCS like the Evo can. I recently sold my Captivate for an Evo, and I hate to say it, but I think I liked the Captivate more. Better screen and better processor is hard to downgrade from
If it's possible to flash the Epic to Metro, I would pick it up in a second.
I haven't found any search results on Google or here, so I figured there was no harm in asking.
Thanks in advance for any help or answers you might have.
From what I've read, slim to none. At least, if you plan to use the internet for anything besides web browsing with the stock browser (ie, forget anything that accesses the internet directly within an app).
The problems:
1. MetroPCS uses proxies for everything.
2. Android proxy support sucks. No, wait... that's not strong enough. Android proxy support sucks monkey balls. In theory, you might be able to build your own kernel that includes iptables support and use iptables with some handwritten helper apps to deal with them... but you'll basically be trailblazing virgin territory, and mostly on your own. Your phone is unlikely to ever work properly. Android's crude proxy support only (kind of) works with the built-in browser. This isn't kiddie stuff. This isn't even "L33t" stuff. If you're a true Linux God who works for Metro, chills with Linus once or twice a year, and has access to Metro's internal documentation (or possibly the guy who created Cyanogen, with a close friend who works for Metro), you MIGHT get it to work... eventually. Nobody less is likely to ever get an Epic to work properly on Metro.
3. Android depends on Sprint for things like network-based location service. Guess what isn't going to work on MetroPCS?
4. Did I mention that Metro is 1xRTT, and the one place where they have 4G (Las Vegas) uses LTE, which isn't compatible with the Epic?
Really, if you add up what it would cost to buy an unsubsidized Epic and 24 months of service with MetroPCS, and compare it to the cost of buying an Epic with a 24 month Sprint contract and 24 months of Sprint, it's insane to even contemplate trying to use the Epic with MetroPCS. The only reason to ever use a Sprint Android phone on Metro is if you have an old one that you'd just chuck into a drawer, and would rather give it to a needy friend or family member with MetroPCS. Buying Sprint's most expensive phone at full retail to use on Metro would be insane.
(By the way, I know this because I *was* going to give my old Hero to a needy friend with Metro).
If the evo can gain access then most likely the epic can. I'm just making this broad assumptions considering the run the same operating system with mostly all the same functions.
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i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
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i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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anybody know how to get the mms working?
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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On metropcs not on sprint... Read before you post please.
is the mms working?
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is the mms working?
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Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
From what I remember when was with Metro (had a Touch Pro), Howard Forums are where a lot of their modding community hangs out. At least that was where all the work/discussion seemed to be going on back then. A simply google search should show the way.
The keys are internet & MMS. Internet tends to be the first thing to get unlocked, but without that MMS is hopeless. Even then MMS isn't always possible, depends a lot on the phone. In the past HTC phones were very easy to make fully function, with Samsung & LG phones being rather difficult. Also keep in mind that, as much as Metro used it as a marketing ploy, they really don't like the flashed phones ideas. They've already nearly disabled all flashed phones once by changing the passwords needed to access the web proxies.
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Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
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native sprint coverage only, no roaming.
for some this may be good, for others it may be a dealbreaker.
to make mms work, you need to simply alter the mmsc URL in the ##DATA# > MSL menu and change it from Sprint's to boost's
changing the MMS url is easy for boost..same w/ making internet work... Samsung phones are CAKE to put on boost FWIW
epic 4g will only run 3g on metropcs
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
scooby dont said:
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
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Uhhh...no. The Epic has no LTE capability. Only WiMax chipset.
The epic doesn't have an lte radio, that's why it doesn't work.
If you got 3g working and mms, then its practically runnin as well as it could be on metro
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scooby dont said:
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
scooby dont
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You posted that on two different threads.
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This. ^ Metro does have 4G but it is LTE, unless the Wimax driver gets a software upgrade in the future, no Metro 4G currently possible. Though you can still pay for Sprint 4G service if you turn on the 4G radio and pay for a 24 hour pass for like 15 bucks.
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Even if you could get all the 3G services working properly, you could never use it as a 4G phone on MetroPCS. Epic is WiMax, Metro is LTE.
Trust me, you want the 4G. Now this is my opinion only so take it for what it is worth. From what I have seen of the existing Metro 3G network it sucks plain and simple, not just for data, but voice services as well. I have tested out the 4G network a bit in South Florida though and am duly impressed. Speed was very good, and even though I don't believe 4G is used for voice services yet, the phone I saw still had much better call performance (most notably actually receiving incoming calls).
Traded my Sprint version for the Verizon version and got $100 back.
Who all has the Verizon version, and what have you been able to do/not do with it?
I wonder how many of us actually have the VZW tab and not the GSM.
I've been searching around for a few days and don't see much going on.
Looks like the original manual peaked that it does have voice capabilities.. just locked up.. anybody working on this? *hint..i would donate plentiflie.. and i made that word up.
Also, if no developments are in process on this, anybody been using sipdroid or skype, without having an alternative handset in their pocket?
I have a hd2 that I hotspot to the tab, if voip calling is reliable enough, id activate the verizon service and let go of my tmobile and number for it..
my only worry is bluetooth really, want to see if anybody has had luck usuing skype voip on 3g or anything while using their bluetooth for listening and microphone..
this isnt just about calling, id like to see the general Verizon owner input
Personally, I really like my Verizon Galaxy Tab. I picked one up at CostCo because they're very reasonable with their return policy and while I wanted to see how it stacked up against the iPad, I wasn't really counting on keeping it. But I've barely even looked at the iPad since purchasing the Galaxy Tab. I am a tad bummed that I can't connect my bluetooth keyboard but, frankly, it's not that big of a deal. It is a pocketable tablet, after all. It's worked quite well with both of my bluetooth headsets but I haven't tried using the mic. It's small, light, fits in the pocket of most of my pants and looks very nice.
I use mine for email, browsing and, BIG plus over the iPad, watching baseball and hockey games via streaming Flash. I suppose if I really cared that much about voice capability I'd be looking into something VOIP but I barely even use my phone for voice calls. I barely use my phone for phone calls, however, so I couldn't really care less about it on the tablet. I do the opposite with my phone, tho. My AT&T iPhone account still has real unlimited data (I've been very careful to maintain that) so I use the phone as a hotspot and connect the tablet to it, only using Verizon when I'm in a place where AT&T sucks.
Finally, CDMA always gets the short end of the stick when it comes to custom systems and I don't see much of anything here for anyone yet so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for something. I jailbroke my iPad and rooted the Galaxy Tab and all things considered, the Galaxy Tab kicks the iPad's ass right now and I'm very pleased with it.
I have a VZW tab too and I love it, and I kind of expected less developer support for the CDMA tabs. Still though I would love to see some custom roms / kernels for us as well.
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I have a VZW tab too and I love it, and I kind of expected less developer support for the CDMA tabs. Still though I would love to see some custom roms / kernels for us as well.
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+1 - Love my VZW rooted tab but I am looking forward to being able to do more...
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I have a Vzw Tab. Over all I like it with the exception of no Bluetooth keyboard support. Very annoying.
Looking forward to taking it on my 8hr+ flight coming up.
Hey great sharing markgamber. Could you elaborate a bit on how to connect hotspot from your phone? I'm using a verizon phone and a tab, but somehow it seems if youwant to set up your phone as a hotspot, you have to pay for extra tethering, like $10 per month?
any way around that? Or am I mistaken?
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Personally, I really like my Verizon Galaxy Tab. I picked one up at CostCo because they're very reasonable with their return policy and while I wanted to see how it stacked up against the iPad, I wasn't really counting on keeping it. But I've barely even looked at the iPad since purchasing the Galaxy Tab. I am a tad bummed that I can't connect my bluetooth keyboard but, frankly, it's not that big of a deal. It is a pocketable tablet, after all. It's worked quite well with both of my bluetooth headsets but I haven't tried using the mic. It's small, light, fits in the pocket of most of my pants and looks very nice.
I use mine for email, browsing and, BIG plus over the iPad, watching baseball and hockey games via streaming Flash. I suppose if I really cared that much about voice capability I'd be looking into something VOIP but I barely even use my phone for voice calls. I barely use my phone for phone calls, however, so I couldn't really care less about it on the tablet. I do the opposite with my phone, tho. My AT&T iPhone account still has real unlimited data (I've been very careful to maintain that) so I use the phone as a hotspot and connect the tablet to it, only using Verizon when I'm in a place where AT&T sucks.
Finally, CDMA always gets the short end of the stick when it comes to custom systems and I don't see much of anything here for anyone yet so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for something. I jailbroke my iPad and rooted the Galaxy Tab and all things considered, the Galaxy Tab kicks the iPad's ass right now and I'm very pleased with it.
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I have the VZW Galaxy Tab and while I love this thing there are a few things that are annoying.
1) No phone but thats all US carriers so thats pretty Lame
2) No bluetooth keyboard. This is really annoying as I am a college student and I planned on taking notes on this thing, but now I really cant.
3) I have no idea why but the T-mobile version of the tab has 16GB internal memory and the VZW tab has 2GB, which makes absolutly NO SENSE AT ALL.
Other than that the tabs are all the same accross carriers but its unfortunate that these things happened on VZW.
I have the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Tablet for my wife. It's rooted with Z4root, wifi connection (modification with 1 file like wp*) with Droid 1, & Droid X for internet/emails. Corporate emails Activesync works. GV with Skype for voice call/receive.
Installed Droid bootstrap recovery, & Droid overclock for under clock the tab, Setcpu & others utilities. Haven't try the deodex files convertion. Very happy with the tab performance, no FC yet, battery performance is great, no hot temp issue.
Using Droid 1 with Project Elite 4.1 rom for myself, & Droid X with Fobalous Apex 1.31 rom for my wife.
Forget to mention that no dataplan from Verizon, cancelled after purchased the tab for 2 weeks. Pay no tethering fees, just using from Droid 1, Droid X wireless tethering. I bricked 1 tab though while converting the deodex files. My part of mistake.
I used the z4root and rooted my tab, but I don't understand the advantage of me doing it.. is Set CPU and all that another app to download? Really not sure what to be looking for.
I've been debating activating the tab with Verizon, i have Unlimited data through Tmobile and have been tethering the WiFi to it wherever I go, but funny thing is, my Tmobile Data drops pretty frequently, not sure if it's anything to do with the ROM i have on my phone.. but its very annoying to see the Webpage cannot be displayed page while I see verizon has a great signal.. makes me want to call and activate everytime.
I gotta say, I really do enjoy the tab, I got the VOIP working on it for free using ipKall,callcentric, gv, and sipdroid.. unlimited calling.. but the quality just isnt there, even on WiFi the latency is murder.
What advantages, aside from a constant data connection does activating it get? Is Vcast and the other preloaded apps a big benefit??
Also, what have you guys been able to use for Video Calling? I haven't once been able to use it, Qik is a older version with no video chat, and ooVoo never seems to wanna load. Hopefully we will get the updated skype with video chat, I saw a guy with an iphone 4 in best buy the other day video chatting, looks fun!
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Also, what have you guys been able to use for Video Calling? I haven't once been able to use it, Qik is a older version with no video chat, and ooVoo never seems to wanna load. Hopefully we will get the updated skype with video chat, I saw a guy with an iphone 4 in best buy the other day video chatting, looks fun!
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Try Tango in the market it is free and works quite well. A buddy of mine has an iPod touch 4g and he installed tango and we were able to video chat without issue.
I am very satisfied with my VZW tab and 3G service.
I have done most of the less adventurous tricks and installs that are here on the forums without issue. No flashing or ROMs or such, I'm waiting for an easy recovery solution.
I am using a sideloaded older version of skype on a VZW data package for voice calling and GV for SMS. Have replaced my iphone with this tablet and am now paying roughly $40/mo. for everything. Works wonderfully for my needs.
There isn't even an option to add tethering to my plan, I just looked. There is a note on the bundled 3G mobile hotspot application that using it will use your device's existing mobile broadband plan. This just seems logical to me and all the other carriers are just robbing their customers. We are paying a premium for the limited data plans as it is, why should it matter how we burn through it?
VZ vs Tmo
Hello,
Can someone please post the email.apk and email.odex from your VZ tab? It has a better email client that isn't as crippled as Tmo's and i would like to try it.
Does anyone know if this will work? I will try it.
And if anyone wants the bluetooth files off of the Tmo version, let me know. It may allow you full funtionality (BT keyboard).
Does anyone know if this will work?
Best,
BC
Doesn't Vzn charge for text messages from the tab? I have T-Mobile and they are included. May get the new vzn tab with lte, 1.2 ghz and 5mp camera though.... thanks
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If you tell me how, ill send them.. I only have z4 root.
We should get a list going of everything that does work on the vzw tab so nobody has a "accident"
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If you tell me how, ill send them.. I only have z4 root.
We should get a list going of everything that does work on the vzw tab so nobody has a "accident"
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Use root explorer from the Market and once inside, go to system>app>then find email.apk and email.odex and copy to post both files please.
Let me know if there is anything on the Tmo version you want. If I were you, i would try using the bluetooth files off of this version because it's not crippled the VZ's so you can use a bluetooth keyboard with it among some other things I believe.
Good luck and thank you!
BC
I would be interested in the Bluetooth files if they will work on a Verizon version Tab.
vzw tab here...
rooted with z4 so I could install anyvpn to vpn to my office and also so I could delete bloatware.
use oovoo for video calling -tested on wifi and 3g
mostly use it for reading news, taking notes, light rdp over vpn, custom app that accesses jms queue etc.
use wifi hotspot occasionally instead of the wifi tether I used on my droid 1.
all in all a big fan and will keep it until vzw 4g device of similar size released. as much as I like the looks of thexoom, it and the ipad are just too big for my taste.
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leongs said:
Installed Droid bootstrap recovery, & Droid overclock for under clock the tab, Setcpu & others utilities. Haven't try the deodex files convertion. Very happy with the tab performance, no FC yet, battery performance is great, no hot temp issue.
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Could you give us details on Boostrap recovery pls?
I see it nowhere displayed, so i am fearing that no there is not. I don't understand why they would leave such a thing out, a tablet is not a tablet in my opinion until it's full media hub, i.e. i need to be able to anything with it, including making calls.
I'd buy it in a heartbeat, if it would have. It does have SIM slot for the data connection obviously, and seeing android is an open platform, if the motorola does not have the capability, would any future open source updates do have it ?
GSM-capabilities are so 2010. 2011 is the year of Google Voice.
I never knew people were planning on using their tablets to entirely replace their phones. And apparently Verizon nor T-Mobile was either =/
This simply sounds redundant. In my opinion this is in no way what they are for.
Could you imagine holding this thing up to your head?
Will there be a GSM version of this tablet? not just CDMA
not asking to use it as a phone, but connecting to the internet...
I am curious too. Can I use 3G services from a GSM service provider or will I have to necessarily use a CDMA provider????
The Xoom will also be released in the UK, where GSM is used. Therefore, there will be a GSM version.
From the UK's where I'm going to order my Xoom from, as as always, a Dutch release will take far too long.
I'm just going to use my galaxy s tethering on it to get internet if no wifi is available.
I'm a little drunk tonight. You tether with your galaxy s? I'm going to tether my xoom with my weiner
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I know I know, "CDMA is not for international use" etc, etc. I am aware.
Still, although it isnt probable - it is not necessarily imposible! And thats what I am banking on
Long story short, I need to travel soon and I dropped my xoom the morning I was going to return it (no need to remind how stupid that was, i havent forgotten yet...) Anyway everything is fine with the tablet except the aluminum body got two minor marks on the edge. Now best buy wont accept it back.
I love everything about the tablet except that I wont be able to get mobile data overseas. The country I am going to has CDMA networks but how can i get verizon to release me from their clutches? I didnt register a data plan with Vz but as i understand I am still at their disposal in terms of wireless service. Anyone have any experience getting any CDMA device unlocked (particularly with Vz)? Can you point me in any direction?
I am willing to do it "legally" through them (if they will even allow it), or through a hack, or any other method. Just let me know whats possible.
I wasnt sure about my travel plans and my Grandmother had been asking to get me gift - end result is I have a perfectly good Xoom I cant return and cant use overseas.
(Just for the record I HATE THE IDEA OF BUYING A DEVICE LOCKED TO A PARTICULAR COMPANY. I never bought a CDMA device for this reason, first time I did and it bit me in the @$$ immediately)
It isn't that it's locked to a company, it's to a technology. Europe uses a different standard. It's like trying to plug a US power socket into a European power socket, it ain't gonna happen! There aren't any "converters" for this. You would be better off getting a mobile hotspot once you're there and connecting via WiFi.
If it was with at&t or tmobile it would be a different story, though I'm not sure the data would work on 3g, it would be 1g (I think).
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It isn't that it's locked to a company, it's to a technology. Europe uses a different standard. It's like trying to plug a US power socket into a European power socket, it ain't gonna happen! There aren't any "converters" for this. You would be better off getting a mobile hotspot once you're there and connecting via WiFi.
If it was with at&t or tmobile it would be a different story, though I'm not sure the data would work on 3g, it would be 1g (I think).
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Thats true, i didnt think about a mobile hotspot. Although I had remembered that I can tether to my cell phone (then I entirely forgot again in the frustration of not being able to return the Xoom )
Anyway I am aware that GSM and CDMA are different standards, but the country I am going to has at least two CDMA carriers that I am aware of. Admittedly I dont know much about CDMA networks but I know my friend had a phone from Sprint that he was able to use overseas after they permitted it.
I still got my fingers crossed...
Phones typically have an unlock code that enables you to use them on other networks. It works for att and tmobile since you don't have to activate the device (just swap sim cards) but getting Verizon to activate a sprint device is nearly impossible.
That said, I don't even know if the Xoom is completely locked to Verizon in the same way. The issue will be provisioning the device for another network with cdma. Either way it's probably not worth the effort.
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The radio is a plug and play Module, if you get your hands on the right one and flash the right ROM, could work, but first thing first .. wait for the release
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The radio is a plug and play Module, if you get your hands on the right one and flash the right ROM, could work, but first thing first .. wait for the release
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Sorry for being such a layman and a noob but what exactly are you referring to the release of?
I feel kind of bad having to do all this ranting and not knowing entirely what I am talking about, so I hope you'll excuse me.
Technology, you can use xoom and connect cdma EvDO network outsea.
You need change ESN、IMSI、AKEY、SID、NID to register xoom on the other CDMA network and make phone call. You also need change AN、AAA to using EvDO service then you can get 3G network link。
The most difficult thing you need to do is getting the AKEY and AAA，which is controled by service provider that you want to connect.
To write ESN、IMSI、AKEY、SID、NID、AN、AAA， you also need some CDMA crack tools，such as CDMA Workshop、QXDM、QMAT etc.
when you google for "AKEY AAA"， you will get more technical detail.
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Phones typically have an unlock code that enables you to use them on other networks. It works for att and tmobile since you don't have to activate the device (just swap sim cards) but getting Verizon to activate a sprint device is nearly impossible.
That said, I don't even know if the Xoom is completely locked to Verizon in the same way. The issue will be provisioning the device for another network with cdma. Either way it's probably not worth the effort.
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That’s all correct.
I had the same experience with a CDMA device in Germany. That is another reason that I am waiting for the GMS version of the xoom.
Hi all, great site! I have used the search facility and viewed dozens of threads ( as well as searching google) and can't find an answer, so my first post is going to be a question.
I was given the Verizon Samsung 7.7 4G LTE as a gift, but was hoping to be able to use it as wireless only as I am in the UK and we don't have 4G and I don't actually want to use any Sims with it.
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Hi all, great site! I have used the search facility and viewed dozens of threads ( as well as searching google) and can't find an answer, so my first post is going to be a question.
I was given the Verizon Samsung 7.7 4G LTE as a gift, but was hoping to be able to use it as wireless only as I am in the UK and we don't have 4G and I don't actually want to use any Sims with it.
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You'll have no issues using it as wifi only! I do it with mine.
Do get a VZW sim (free in store US or 3-5 dollars online ebay) so you can disable mobile data (Packet Data). This'll help you get battery life almost inline with the wifi P6810. There are ways to disable the com services but you'll get 2 FC's anytime you reboot which are annoying.
And enjoy the 7.7, easily the best tablet out there as far as im concerned.
If this helps, I can disable cellular packet data separately from wifi, just leave that off, tablet doesn't care.
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One could:
1) Remove the sim
2) Reset the tablet
3) During the startup wizard specify wi-fi only