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I am very excited to see all the great work that has been done to achieve voice+data on the AT&T Galaxy Tab (and T-Mobile). I am a VZ customer, and have been for 6+ years. I was hoping to pickup a VZ GT, and be able to use voice on it (at some point), but going to the AT&T store tonight and playing with a GT has made me far too impatient to wait. I want my GT now!
Leading into my question..
As I have no relationships with AT&T, I have no idea their plans, pre-pay options, etc., not to mention what will work best for the GT. I want to know what is the best way to setup a plan and get a SIM that I am going to be able to use in an AT&T device to achieve voice+data.
Thank you, and I hope forthcoming answers will be of assistance to all the others out there like myself!
Need more info. How heavy do u use internet? 250MB is $25+voice plan i believe, 39.99.
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Need more info. How heavy do u use internet? 250MB is $25+voice plan i believe, 39.99.
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Fairly heavy, and I can only see it going up with the GT. The voice - not a ton. Something like 200 minutes per month. I doubt that wold be increasing.
After reading around, I think the best solution for me is going to be:
AT&T Galaxy Tab
SIM Unlock
Voice Hack
Simple Mobile $60/mo plan for 'unlimited everything'/
cafcwest said:
After reading around, I think the best solution for me is going to be:
AT&T Galaxy Tab
SIM Unlock
Voice Hack
Simple Mobile $60/mo plan for 'unlimited everything'/
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Don't know if this is apparent from their website, but Simply Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller, so you won't get 3G data from them... only EDGE.
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Don't know if this is apparent from their website, but Simply Mobile is a T-Mobile reseller, so you won't get 3G data from them... only EDGE.
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For my needs right now, I think EDGE is going to be ok.
As this is a device I "want", but dont have to "have", I can take some time and keep looking for a better way to make this work the way I want though.
Hopefully someone can answer this. Is there a way for my evo to run correctly in europe (england and france)?
I know sprint offers phones and plans that you can "rent", but id like to run my evo.
Any ideas?
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I have heard people say that you can get on CDMA networks overseas, but that it will cost you an arm and a leg. Many people seem to prefer using some VOIP solution and wifi access. Unfortunately we aren't on a GSM phone where you could purchase a cheap SIM card for a little bit of usage.
Answer: NO.
Why: CDMA (the technology that Sprint, Verizon, and MetroPCS use) is only used in North America, and certain parts of Asia (namely, Japan and China each have a carrier or two that use it). GSM is used everywhere else.
The EVO has CDMA and WiMax. It does not have GSM.
I'm not sure how Skype works on Android (haven't tried it). But assuming Skype works somehow, couldn't you just latch onto some sort of wifi?
Can't use the EVO to make actual cellular phone calls in Europe. Like stated above, the EVO is a CDMA phone and the only standard used there is GSM. You can however, use the EVO for just about everything else while you are there. My brother just came back from France last week and he was there for a month so before he went we had to figure out what we could do with our EVO's while he was there and I was in the US. When you are there turn on "airplane mode" and leave it like that the whole time you are there. This way, the phone isn't draining battery power trying to search for a CDMA tower to connect to.
The main thing is you will NEED TO HAVE WI-FI access to do anything I'm describing below.
I used to Tikl, push to talk app to keep in contact with my brother. I didn't have much luck using Qik, but I was able ooVoo to do video chat with him. I was still able to use Google Lattitude to see where he was at. His GPS actually worked there also. It was not as fast like here in the US but he was able to find his location.
My sister is in Manchester, England right now with her EVO the same thing applies there also. I do seem to notice that public wi-fi access is much more readily available in England than France. Today I "Lattituded" while she was at some hookah bar and was able to do video chat with everyone there while I was sitting at home in Iowa.
If you are currently using some kind of VOIP app now, make sure all the people you want to be in contact with are using it too. For a psuedo SMS app we used "Whatsapp" to handle our overseas text messaging since it uses internet rather than cellular service.
Hope this helps.
GPS will work anywhere.. it is a satilite signal..
the only issue will be the map you need to use with that signal.
why it is taking longer.. you have moble networkturned off. they phone use moble network to get quick read on you. the GPS is to fine tune you down to with in 9 meters or so.
Just went to France and ROME this past Sept. My evo was a paper weight. I just used it for the time & to take pictures...
J-Bert said:
Hopefully someone can answer this. Is there a way for my evo to run correctly in europe (england and france)?
I know sprint offers phones and plans that you can "rent", but id like to run my evo.
Any ideas?
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Just get a Sprint world phone from eBay. HTC PRO2 for like 100 buck. There are cheaper ones also. Then take it to sprint to get a sim card. It will work anywhere in Europe. When you get to Europe buy a cheap prepaid sim card to get a local number if thats what you want. Also tell Sprint to unlock it. They will since there is no contract on it. When you get back just switch back to your EVO.
no way to get evo working in Europe since there is no CDMA network
U can use skype+wifi hotspot there, tons and tons are FREE!!!
You can also get a google-voice number, a sipgate account, and add the sipgate number to google voice, then install a sip-compatible client on the evo. (Fring does work). People will be able to call your google-voice number and it will RING on wifi.
... though I do think Skype has a plan that gives you a number, I don't know what it costs.
Hi,
Does anyone know if T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S2 work with wifi calling feature?
SGS2 Hercules is too new, it's not even on sale yet for another week
i doubt people can answer you until next next week
I am going to assume yes, because all of the new t-mobile phones have it, BUT it doesn't mention it in the features on the t-mobile site.
Moved
I just got my SGS2 for Tmobile today. I'm coming from a mytouch 4g and use the wifi calling app every now and then.
at the moment, I do not see any icon for wifi calling on the SGS2. one came by default on the mytouch 4g. but not on this.
I was assured in the store that this feature was supported. but i'm not sure how if I don't have the tmobile app installed on the phone and can't find it on the market.
No wifi calling support and wifi hotspot NOT FREE!!!
Just got the SGS2 Wednesday...
There is no Wifi calling app and no support for it currently. I even tried installing the kineto apk from my G2X and it would install no problem, but then immediately FCs every time. Some t-mo forums I read support.t-mobile.com /message/42893#42893 state that there will be an app in a future update to enable this. But, it says the phone will IMS-based (as opposed to UMA or GAN). From what I understand, the Wifi calling app is free and does not deduct your plan minutes if you call to enable this feature and have the rep set it up this way. AND, if your phone supports calling over UMA! So, this really sucks! I get spotty reception in my house and chose a lower rate plan all with the expectation that this end-all be-all phone would obviously support this.
Also, don't be fooled by the Wifi Hotspot app the phone comes with. It would appear to work correctly without a hitch, but then nothing connects through it. I finally realized that when connected every page you attempt to visit on the tethered computer points to offers.t-mobile.com /tethering/upsell.do
Are you freaking kidding??? Again, aren't we buying this amazing phone and paying a premium for it because it can do anything???
Anybody else find this? Any official word from t-mo that this was all just a big mistake?
PS-Sorry, I had to split the urls above into two parts, I didn't realize you couldn't post outside urls for the first eight messages.
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Just got the SGS2 Wednesday...
There is no Wifi calling app and no support for it currently. I even tried installing the kineto apk from my G2X and it would install no problem, but then immediately FCs every time. Some t-mo forums I read support.t-mobile.com /message/42893#42893 state that there will be an app in a future update to enable this. But, it says the phone will IMS-based (as opposed to UMA or GAN). From what I understand, the Wifi calling app is free and does not deduct your plan minutes if you call to enable this feature and have the rep set it up this way. AND, if your phone supports calling over UMA! So, this really sucks! I get spotty reception in my house and chose a lower rate plan all with the expectation that this end-all be-all phone would obviously support this.
Also, don't be fooled by the Wifi Hotspot app the phone comes with. It would appear to work correctly without a hitch, but then nothing connects through it. I finally realized that when connected every page you attempt to visit on the tethered computer points to offers.t-mobile.com /tethering/upsell.do
Are you freaking kidding??? Again, aren't we buying this amazing phone and paying a premium for it because it can do anything???
Anybody else find this? Any official word from t-mo that this was all just a big mistake?
PS-Sorry, I had to split the urls above into two parts, I didn't realize you couldn't post outside urls for the first eight messages.
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I am with you. I use the wifi calling feature on a regular basis and I pissed that it doesnt have it. Its my fault I moved from the sensation to this and figured it would have it. I will wait for the update that hopefully comes soon.
Return the phone and cite the lack of WiFi calling/texting as the reason. If you just keep it and wait, they may assume you guys are all happy with what you got and never put it in the update... Pick your poison.
For anyone who is wondering whether or not the 7.7 (specifically the P6800) can be used as a GSM phone, well here is your definitive answer with video proof from yours truly. Enjoy!
Thanks, for the video. I look foward to receving mine.
Thanks for the video. You just made my decision on buying one much easier.
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Zed? They say zed in Virginia? Is it a suburb of Canada or something?
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Zed? They say zed in Virginia? Is it a suburb of Canada or something?
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Latent Britishism of mine. Used to live in the UK you see.
I wonder if the radio from either the T-mobile Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 7.0 Plus can be used to enable voice and 3G data on the T-mobile US network on this tab. Just a thought.
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I wonder if the radio from either the T-mobile Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 7.0 Plus can be used to enable voice and 3G data on the T-mobile US network on this tab. Just a thought.
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I would say probably not. I have discussed this at length over in the GNote forum.
Long story short, even if the chipset does have a 1700AWS feature, enabled by some modified modem.bin or whatever, the device itself is very unlikely to have the antenna necessary for picking up that frequency. So basically, you'll either get very poor 3G signal, or none at all.
For Americans, as much as it sucks, my suggestion when using international devices is this:
Listen carefully. Are you listening? Good!
AVOID CARRIERS WHICH USE PROPRIETARY FREQUENCIES AND/OR TECHNOLOGIES
So that rules out T-Mobile, or any MVNO that uses T-Mobile (like SIMple Mobile), and that rules out EVERY CDMA carrier.
So yeah, if you're importing international devices, you're basically left with only one option: AT&T (or any AT&T MVNO). And people think it isn't a monopoly? HA!!!
I'm not listening.
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For anyone who is wondering whether or not the 7.7 (specifically the P6800) can be used as a GSM phone, well here is your definitive answer with video proof from yours truly. Enjoy!
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I am wondering if my P6810 WiFi only device can use Gmail's Call Phone option?
I have used Call Phone on my laptop when traveling and it works great to make free calls within the U.S.
If not I guess I can use Skype or QIK or even Google Talk?
Yeah I know, why not buy the P6800? Well cost for one thing and also I have a T-Mobile "MiFi" hotspot that is pay as you go. So if I am traveling I top off the hotspot with data/time and I am good to go. Put the little thing my my pocket and connect to my tablet via 4G.
Note: I have not yet received my Tab from Negri , it is due to arrive on 1/26/12
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I am wondering if my P6810 WiFi only device can use Gmail's Call Phone option?
I have used Call Phone on my laptop when traveling and it works great to make free calls within the U.S.
If not I guess I can use Skype or QIK or even Google Talk?
Yeah I know, why not buy the P6800? Well cost for one thing and also I have a T-Mobile "MiFi" hotspot that is pay as you go. So if I am traveling I top off the hotspot with data/time and I am good to go. Put the little thing my my pocket and connect to my tablet via 4G.
Note: I have not yet received my Tab from Negri , it is due to arrive on 1/26/12
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GrooveIP will let you make calls with your Google Voice account via WiFi. Great little app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
Sweet! I will check it out...thanks for the link.
Couldn't have been easier..
I finally put my AT&T sim card in my tab yesterday..
Now I got it from Negri on the 6th & set up my wifi..
Set up my email.. all is cool..
Went & did an OTA update... all cool.. no probs...
Then I stuffed in the sim card..
Immediately after re-booting... I made and received phone calls..!!!
I didn't have to do any settings at all..
So I tried sending myself a txt message... sent and received within a few seconds..
I didn't have to do any APN settings at all like I had to do in my GNote..
Then sent and received mms too!! success..
Web pages loaded fast.. although I cant find any icons that say 3g or H or H+...
Only super tiny green arrows going up and down near the clock on bottom right..
My contacts from my sim card were there too..
AGAIN.. I DID NOT have to do any APN settings..Somehow it knew and did it all for me... wap. cingular...etc.....
Super success!!!
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Couldn't have been easier..
I finally put my AT&T sim card in my tab yesterday..
Now I got it from Negri on the 6th & set up my wifi..
Set up my email.. all is cool..
Went & did an OTA update... all cool.. no probs...
Then I stuffed in the sim card..
Immediately after re-booting... I made and received phone calls..!!!
I didn't have to do any settings at all..
So I tried sending myself a txt message... sent and received within a few seconds..
I didn't have to do any APN settings at all like I had to do in my GNote..
Then sent and received mms too!! success..
Web pages loaded fast.. although I cant find any icons that say 3g or H or H+...
Only super tiny green arrows going up and down near the clock on bottom right..
My contacts from my sim card were there too..
AGAIN.. I DID NOT have to do any APN settings..Somehow it knew and did it all for me... wap. cingular...etc.....
Super success!!!
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What kind of battery life are you seeing? Are you using as your primary phone? I get mine tomorrow and plan to try this myself. Just a bit anxious!!
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What kind of battery life are you seeing? Are you using as your primary phone? I get mine tomorrow and plan to try this myself. Just a bit anxious!!
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Phenomenal battery. Easy get through a full day with room to spare, even with screen at 100%. Using as primary phone as well. You can talk on the thing for over 24 hours straight, and still not run down the battery all the way. No joke!
Well it does say 49hrs of talk time in 2G mode and 27hrs in 3G so the battery life is gonna be phenomenal when it comes to taking calls.
Want to see how it looks when holding that tablet to your ears?
Watch this http://youtu.be/Lnqs5zMDtRc
phoning starts at 2:40
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Want to see how it looks when holding that tablet to your ears?
Watch this http://youtu.be/Lnqs5zMDtRc
phoning starts at 2:40
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And that right there is precisely the reason I bought an HM5000!
i would like to know do you guys actually use it as a phone or do you guys have 2 sim card? (one for your phone and one for 7.7)
i am not going to have 2 sims as it is too expensive for me and if i wana switch the sim from my desire hd to 7.7 i will need to switch off my phone which is very inconvenient. Which makes me think that even if i have the phone feature will i actually use it? or should i just get the wifi version and connect to the internet through my phone.
also if i wana insert/remove sim for the 7.7 do i have to switch off the tab?
thank you guys
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i would like to know do you guys actually use it as a phone or do you guys have 2 sim card? (one for your phone and one for 7.7)
i am not going to have 2 sims as it is too expensive for me and if i wana switch the sim from my desire hd to 7.7 i will need to switch off my phone which is very inconvenient. Which makes me think that even if i have the phone feature will i actually use it? or should i just get the wifi version and connect to the internet through my phone.
also if i wana insert/remove sim for the 7.7 do i have to switch off the tab?
thank you guys
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The Tab will restart by itself when you insert a SIM. You can turn off packet data for your Desire while the SIM is in another device and use it on wifi.
For myself, I've not bothered to use the 7.7 as a daily phone since I like to walk around unencumbered. But, for short weekend trips and the like it is useful to just have one all-purpose device.
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The Tab will restart by itself when you insert a SIM. You can turn off packet data for your Desire while the SIM is in another device and use it on wifi.
For myself, I've not bothered to use the 7.7 as a daily phone since I like to walk around unencumbered. But, for short weekend trips and the like it is useful to just have one all-purpose device.
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i agreed especially if the phones battery died lol
thanks for your reply
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i would like to know do you guys actually use it as a phone or do you guys have 2 sim card? (one for your phone and one for 7.7)
i am not going to have 2 sims as it is too expensive for me and if i wana switch the sim from my desire hd to 7.7 i will need to switch off my phone which is very inconvenient. Which makes me think that even if i have the phone feature will i actually use it? or should i just get the wifi version and connect to the internet through my phone.
also if i wana insert/remove sim for the 7.7 do i have to switch off the tab?
thank you guys
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No need for 2 Sims as long as your sim has both data and voice you are good to go.
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No need for 2 Sims as long as your sim has both data and voice you are good to go.
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I think the question was more was it worth it to have a data-enabled 7.7 when they already have an Android phone with a data plan and if the phone functionality of the 7.7 was a compelling reason to get it over the 6810 model.
It's really a choice that you'll have to make yourself based on your usage and finances. If you can use your phone as a hotspot for the 7.7 and don't ever plan on using it to make voice calls (you can still use various apps to make calls with your Google Voice account over wifi). But, charges for a separate data plan can add up and may not be worth it. I have a SIM from my work-provided Elevate hotspot so I use that with the 7.7, but if I didn't have that comped I'd probably go without a second plan.
Bottom line, in this case I would probably spend the extra money to get the 6800 over the 6810. The 6800 works fine over wifi without a SIM (although it will have an annoying message on the stock lockscreen about it). Then, you'd have that full functionality when you needed to use it with your phone's SIM.
I still have a phone and this tablet mainly because i don't wanna part with my good sprint sero plan. However for now i do have a tablet data plan for the 7.7 and i have made a call or 2 using a voip client and it worked no problem.
I use my 7.7 as a daily driver because I'm usually just sitting at work most of the time anyway. If I know I'm going to be on the move, I can just as easily swap my SIM into my GS2 or Note instead, and leave the 7.7 at home. It's nice having options!
I am using my 7.7 with a data only sim which I got from my cable/ISP company for free. On my phone I only have a 100 MB/Month data plan (using it only for e-mail and this plan is more than enough) and I am using the tablet for internet browsing and entertainment.
IMHO if you already have a data enabled phone and a good data plan it is not worth to spend extra cash for a 3G enabled 7.7, as u can use the phone as a hotspot
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I am using my 7.7 with a data only sim which I got from my cable/ISP company for free. On my phone I only have a 100 MB/Month data plan (using it only for e-mail and this plan is more than enough) and I am using the tablet for internet browsing and entertainment.
IMHO if you already have a data enabled phone and a good data plan it is not worth to spend extra cash for a 3G enabled 7.7, as u can use the phone as a hotspot
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Man, I wish my ISP would give me a data SIM for free. I need to remind myself that I calibrate my cost/value estimates based on the BS that US carriers require, and not every country is like that.
Tab 7.7 with 3G sim + HTC HD2 Android with 3G sim. My ISP has a neat deal where for an extra $10SGD/mth, I get to use an additional sim that shares the data of my main plan.
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Geez, thanks for all the reminders that US telecoms are complete rip-offs [REDACTED RANT ABOUT CAPITALISM]
I have the Gnote using my ATT sim card (from my previous Atrix).
Im paying for the 2G data plan along with my 700 minutes phone plan.
On weekends, I pull the Note's sim and put it in my 7-7.....
I have no problems as the 7.7 does fit in my pocket about 90%.
All is well!!! I like it this way!
good luck.....
same here
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Tab 7.7 with 3G sim + HTC HD2 Android with 3G sim. My ISP has a neat deal where for an extra $10SGD/mth, I get to use an additional sim that shares the data of my main plan.
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Same here exept my provider delever 2 extra 3g simcard for free. If this was not the case i dont think i would buy another plan for the tab
I got a multi sim plan from my provider in Singapore. Basically it's 2 sim card tied to the same mobile number. I put one into my mobile and another one in the tab and from there I share both outgoing voice and data on a single mobile plan. I do need to select one of my device as the primary incoming phone and this can be easily switched by sending a short code through the phone which I want to designate as the primary phone. With this I use my tab as my phone on weekends.
How well does this Tab work for any of you that use it as a daily driver? I'm SERIOUSLY thinking about trading my GSM GNex off for one, and just use it for a daily driver. I thought about the 7.0 Plus, but this is so much better specced, and the size difference is fairly negligible between this Tab and the 7.0 Plus, so why not go with the better version? I figure a set of headphones, like the Klipsch S4a, and I'm in business.
I have one simcard at the moment in the tab, and haven't used my HTC Desire in a week.
But I consider putting the card back in the Desire and get a prepaid dataplan for 14.99 a month with 5GB at 3g speed and unlimmited GPRS.
I would recommend getting the 3g version of the 7.7 because the signal reception is better than a phone because of the increased size. I was on holiday recently and I could not get a reliable high speed Internet connection on my Note where I was staying so tethering was not possible, but I got a good high speed connection on the 7.7. Also, with a 3g version of the 7.7 it can act as a backup phone and allow the 7.7 and phone to use the Internet independently.
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I would recommend getting the 3g version of the 7.7 because the signal reception is better than a phone because of the increased size. I was on holiday recently and I could not get a reliable high speed Internet connection on my Note where I was staying so tethering was not possible, but I got a good high speed connection on the 7.7. Also, with a 3g version of the 7.7 it can act as a backup phone and allow the 7.7 and phone to use the Internet independently.
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I bought a One X, but still considering this. I take it you love the 7.7 for all around use? How awkward was it as a DD?
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I bought a One X, but still considering this. I take it you love the 7.7 for all around use? How awkward was it as a DD?
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The 7.7 is very good for all round use and the screen resolution is a vast improvement over the original P1000 which makes it much better for Web browsing, watching videos etc. It is also very portable because of the 7" format and slim design and can easily be carried in ladies handbags or large pockets.
However, there are certain situations with any Tablet or smart phone where it is not possible to zoom Internet pages making it very difficult to select items using fingers for example when selecting items on financial charts when trading. You can overcome this problem by using a Bluetooth mouse or wired mouse and USB adapter. I would like Samsung to add their S-Pen to the 7.7 like the Note which would solve the problem without the need to carry extra hardware.
Gaugerer said:
The 7.7 is very good for all round use and the screen resolution is a vast improvement over the original P1000 which makes it much better for Web browsing, watching videos etc. It is also very portable because of the 7" format and slim design and can easily be carried in ladies handbags or large pockets.
However, there are certain situations with any Tablet or smart phone where it is not possible to zoom Internet pages making it very difficult to select items using fingers for example when selecting items on financial charts when trading. You can overcome this problem by using a Bluetooth mouse or wired mouse and USB adapter. I would like Samsung to add their S-Pen to the 7.7 like the Note which would solve the problem without the need to carry extra hardware.
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Thanks. Yeah, if Sammy wants to differentiate, S-Pen at 5.3,7.7,and 10.1 makes sense. I would just buy the Note, but kind of curious about this year's model.
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